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post Jul 2 2024, 07:04 AM, updated 2y ago

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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Jul 2 2024, 07:04 AM)
Thats peanuts compared to what ObsGyn or Cardiologist make
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jgn jealous. ibu bapa ask you to study hard, tapi tak .ahu nak rempit
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:11 AM

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Ktard need to level up from 20k ad..
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Syukur alhamdulillah. Good for her.
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:21 AM

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She’s lucky, but this is almost unattainable for new graduates

Most will be stuck in mo job or open up their own clinic because almost impossible to do masters

If rich parents then can specialise overseas and come back then different la
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jul 2 2024, 07:08 AM)
Thats peanuts compared to what ObsGyn or Cardiologist make
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Ya it's true
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:28 AM

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those who're specialist in niche department can make that much
but...there is a big BUT

sakit kepala when comes to pay income tax...better calculate how much is your actual usable salary before spend all 60k and can't pay the loans
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:31 AM

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60k too much. Untung sikit2 cukuplah. 12K cukup.

One day AI can replace doctors, especially clinic types.
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:39 AM

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must be specialist --
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:42 AM

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Make you wonder why some consultants still stay with KKM

Gaji siput, kena maki hamun saja.
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jul 2 2024, 07:31 AM)
60k too much. Untung sikit2 cukuplah. 12K cukup.

One day AI can replace doctors, especially clinic types.
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Ai is a tool. Not a replacement for an actual human being

Maybe in the future it will, but definitely not happening within our lifetime

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post Jul 2 2024, 07:45 AM

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post Jul 2 2024, 07:45 AM

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That’s why even tissue paper you use also kena charge at private hosp

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post Jul 2 2024, 07:46 AM

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60K after close to 20 years of working, bukan lepas grad kerja terus dapat.
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 2 2024, 07:28 AM)
those who're specialist in niche department can make that much
but...there is a big BUT

sakit kepala when comes to pay income tax...better calculate how much is your actual usable salary before spend all 60k and can't pay the loans
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when you have such salary, you can afford an accountant to help you kira.
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jul 2 2024, 07:31 AM)
60k too much. Untung sikit2 cukuplah. 12K cukup.

One day AI can replace doctors, especially clinic types.
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I have been hearing that more than 10 years ago. Until this day, AI still hasn't replaced any of our jobs. Heck, we still have drivers, delivery guys, janitors etc.
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:53 AM

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for a specialist
that's common i guess
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post Jul 2 2024, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jul 2 2024, 07:47 AM)
when you have such salary, you can afford an accountant to help you kira.
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u forgot the richer you are, the more cheapskate you become laugh.gif

they wanna find someone to do tax for them also they think 3-5 times first

that's why u hang around those doing financial, they'll tell u a lot of people earn RM20k commitment RM19k, earn RM30k commitment RM29k laugh.gif

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post Jul 2 2024, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jul 2 2024, 07:47 AM)
when you have such salary, you can afford an accountant to help you kira.
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I earn more than that. Didn't hire accountant also. Lol
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post Jul 2 2024, 08:01 AM

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Ada bayar tax tak ?
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post Jul 2 2024, 08:03 AM

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post Jul 2 2024, 08:03 AM

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Ermm 40hrs without sleep? Wouldn't it be smarter t9 hire two doctors with 40k salary each soaximum you go without sleep is 20hrs? Also not that smart to hang your payslips in socme walls.
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This one considered low for a private practice doctor la. I know some earned more than 100k per month tongue.gif
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Now u know they overcharge patients
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post Jul 2 2024, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jul 2 2024, 07:54 AM)
I earn more than that. Didn't hire accountant also. Lol
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You are a different level bro.
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post Jul 2 2024, 08:09 AM

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post Jul 2 2024, 08:10 AM

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they suffered many years and a lot of money studying and doing housemanship and spend decades building their experience

good for them
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post Jul 2 2024, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jul 2 2024, 08:08 AM)
You are a different level bro.
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Taiko, you easily more than sgd60k?
Lai flex a bit, motivate us
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Jul 2 2024, 07:42 AM)
Make you wonder why some consultants still stay with KKM

Gaji siput, kena maki hamun saja.
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lol consultant is specialist, they are around middle upper in the KKM food chain

down there the HO is one kena maki from everyone, including nurse lol
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that after 15yrs... really good.
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post Jul 2 2024, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jul 2 2024, 08:09 AM)
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I am soon going to be unemployed, I respectfully decline to be mentioned in the same breath as the glorious and hallowed superstars of /k, such as iPong 15 Pro Max 256Gb splurger and knnbuccb who makes more than RM60k/month in his own words.

Unemployed people need to be low profile and stay humble
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Jul 2 2024, 08:12 AM)
Taiko, you easily more than sgd60k?
Lai flex a bit, motivate us
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Soon to be jobless... I am a humble man.
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I am soon going to be unemployed, I respectfully decline to be mentioned in the same breath as the glorious and hallowed superstars of /k, such as iPong 15 Pro Max 256Gb splurger and knnbuccb who makes more than RM60k/month in his own words.

Unemployed people need to be low profile and stay humble
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Recently me also unemployed.

But then I feel no nice. So I'm gonna go back to earning money

Earning money is a passion. Even if I don't use it
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some family clinic only receive cash or ewallat under doctor name whistling.gif
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jul 2 2024, 08:22 AM)
I am soon going to be unemployed, I respectfully decline to be mentioned in the same breath as the glorious and hallowed superstars of /k, such as iPong 15 Pro Max 256Gb splurger and knnbuccb who makes more than RM60k/month in his own words.

Unemployed people need to be low profile and stay humble
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Yeah better stay low, nanti kena maki (Ipong max pro) your earnings, hardwork and lifestyle came 3.5x "made-easy" on you.

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post Jul 2 2024, 08:35 AM

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Surely she paid tax too. brows.gif
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jul 2 2024, 07:44 AM)
Ai is a tool. Not a replacement for an actual human being

Maybe in the future it will, but definitely not happening within our lifetime
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you're wrong. you remember when steam engine coming, got stupid workers digging using cangkul say, maybe in the future steam engine will replace us, but definitely not happening within our lifetime

respected expert globally already say will happen within 10 years


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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jul 2 2024, 08:10 AM)
they suffered many years and a lot of money studying and doing housemanship and spend decades building their experience

good for them
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let do some math

medicine course 5 year (if not repeating semester)
HO 2 years (if really good, and don't need extension)
MO like maybe 4 -5 years
Specialist training - hard to say 3 years maybe
Specialist at KKM - bond- not sure how long, but my friend can cabut after 5 years

so 20 years of your life before the good life begin

many comrade fallen during the 20 years
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so now 60k is the new /k standard?
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QUOTE(IamBlind @ Jul 2 2024, 07:09 AM)
jgn jealous. ibu bapa ask you to study hard, tapi tak .ahu nak rempit
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This, and they get priority lane some more to study medicine.

Such a waste of life- puak cukup makan jer - mentality.

Then after 16 years - bang janji kerja kuat hantar grab.

Lol- stupid breed stupid.
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paed ma... usually charge more than normal clinic...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 2 2024, 07:28 AM)
those who're specialist in niche department can make that much
but...there is a big BUT

sakit kepala when comes to pay income tax...better calculate how much is your actual usable salary before spend all 60k and can't pay the loans
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earnin 60-100k oso wan sakit kepala ke.. tats one sakit kepala every1 shud hav
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jul 2 2024, 08:09 AM)
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lol
u ask 1 minute late

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From the way she talk.....she knows how to blow
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Good for her

Cukur rejeki max.


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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Jul 2 2024, 07:21 AM)
She’s lucky, but this is almost unattainable for new graduates

Most will be stuck in mo job or open up their own clinic because almost impossible to do masters

If rich parents then can specialise overseas and come back then different la
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lucky? people work hard and study day and night no social life for years to be specialist you senang je call people lucky doh.gif
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QUOTE(IamBlind @ Jul 2 2024, 07:09 AM)
jgn jealous. ibu bapa ask you to study hard, tapi tak .ahu nak rempit
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lucky sebab kumpulan elit...yang miskin dan type c and I mana ade peluang macam ni.

habis SMK je terus kena kerja sebab nak support famili.

u tau ape?
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jangan cemburu....saya bangsa "fair"....

gaji tinggi, cukai tu....tak yah bincang....


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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 2 2024, 09:00 AM)
lucky? people work hard and study day and night no social life for years to be specialist you senang je call people lucky doh.gif
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yes lucky, sebab got famili support, u ignt studi Dr free ka?

imagine u ade 5 adik and mak bapa cant even feed them.
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 2 2024, 08:48 AM)
This, and they get priority lane some more to study medicine.

Such a waste of life- puak cukup makan jer - mentality.

Then after 16 years - bang janji kerja kuat hantar grab.

Lol- stupid breed stupid.
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I alrdy said.. matrik got many chances.. even fail matrik can go overseas with convertible loan to scholarship

Apa lagi mau. If still fail I duno liao
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And she still needs racist policy
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QUOTE(karazure @ Jul 2 2024, 09:01 AM)
lucky sebab kumpulan elit...yang miskin dan type c and I mana ade peluang macam ni.

habis SMK je terus kena kerja sebab nak support famili.

u tau ape?
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ayam don't know I but C will always go to uni unless result suck big time


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QUOTE(IamBlind @ Jul 2 2024, 07:09 AM)
jgn jealous. ibu bapa ask you to study hard, tapi tak .ahu nak rempit
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Nowadays also many parents ask the child no need to study hard. Later complain why the children is not earning much.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 2 2024, 09:00 AM)
lucky? people work hard and study day and night no social life for years to be specialist you senang je call people lucky doh.gif
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lucky as in good for her la bro

not everyone has the privilege to become specialist, even doctor


why so pressed ??
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60k per month after 2-3 decade one , not sure involve jumping job around or not


Anyway good for her .


She also need constant attend class and improve professional hour etc , grind mindset just like audit accountant tax
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Now 20k like peanuts. Time to increase to 40k or 60k per months for /k minimum salary
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 2 2024, 09:03 AM)
ayam don't know I but C will always go to uni unless result suck big time
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Yes, for now but back then unker time where got so bahagia.

U were lucky becoz u have the chance.

unker oni got burden, even working after school since primary lagi to support famili.

unker buy my own school uniform, bag ang shoe since primary - SMK.

never had the chance to go uni pun becoz famili expect you to support, dont even talk about them support u becoz u need to studi.

unker no such luxury.
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Jul 2 2024, 07:21 AM)
She’s lucky, but this is almost unattainable for new graduates

Most will be stuck in mo job or open up their own clinic because almost impossible to do masters

If rich parents then can specialise overseas and come back then different la
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of course gov wont sponsor all MO to do master or PHD like all others place. pandai2 la politic to get the spot. and because dumbass here go to race. its like 50% people that sambung study sponsored by go are non bumi.

the losers that dunno how to climb the ladder need to stfu

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 2 2024, 08:53 AM)
paed ma... usually charge more than normal clinic...
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Thats because the offer something more specialised than what a normal clinic can offer. Of course can charge more

QUOTE(nelson969 @ Jul 2 2024, 09:09 AM)
60k per month after 2-3 decade one , not sure involve jumping job around or not
Anyway good for her .
She also need constant attend class and improve professional hour etc , grind mindset just like audit accountant tax
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Errr, specialist are not paid any basic by the hospital. All their income is derived from how many patients they see a day. Specialists are sorta running their own business in the hospital. The hosp just takes a certain % from their monthly income

The reason why specialists can make alot of money is because most patients are claiming insurance. So its the insurance that is ensuring high income for the specialists. And majority of insurance can only be claimed when one is admitted to hospital and not a normal clinic

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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jul 2 2024, 09:10 AM)
of course gov wont sponsor all MO to do master or PHD like all others place. pandai2 la politic to get the spot. and because dumbass here go to race. its like 50% people that sambung study sponsored by go are non bumi.

the losers that dunno how to climb the ladder need to stfu
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from my understanding, you only have to pay for the local one if you fail
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QUOTE(karazure @ Jul 2 2024, 09:01 AM)
lucky sebab kumpulan elit...yang miskin dan type c and I mana ade peluang macam ni.

habis SMK je terus kena kerja sebab nak support famili.

u tau ape?
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U have a point - i have friends like this.

B40 breeds b40.

But to say majority? Nah . Ini culture masing masing.

Chinese parents kiasu,thats why when small , they keep saying if u don’t study u end up loser like the rubbish man.

Some elite malays also instill this culture to their kids .don’t be a loser.

Our gov should teach this instead.
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 2 2024, 09:14 AM)
U have a point - i have friends like this.

B40 breeds b40.

But to say majority? Nah . Ini culture masing masing.

Chinese parents kiasu,thats why when small , they keep saying if u don’t study u end up loser like the rubbish man.

Some elite malays also instill  this culture to their kids .don’t be a loser.

Our gov should teach this instead.
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Elite Malays instill this culture is because 99% of the time they have learned it from the Chinese. Its because Malay elites mix around alot with Chinese .
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 2 2024, 09:14 AM)
U have a point - i have friends like this.

B40 breeds b40.

But to say majority? Nah . Ini culture masing masing.

Chinese parents kiasu,thats why when small , they keep saying if u don’t study u end up loser like the rubbish man.

Some elite malays also instill  this culture to their kids .don’t be a loser.

Our gov should teach this instead.
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Say like but if rubbish man don’t come for a week, huru hara 🤣

Also waste management company all rich rich bro
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 2 2024, 09:14 AM)
U have a point - i have friends like this.

B40 breeds b40.

But to say majority? Nah . Ini culture masing masing.

Chinese parents kiasu,thats why when small , they keep saying if u don’t study u end up loser like the rubbish man.

Some elite malays also instill  this culture to their kids .don’t be a loser.

Our gov should teach this instead.
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u do know B40 is just a number where pople can move in and out the line

there are people who do business from zero later have 10 shop and theres huge company ceo then went bankrupt

if all b40 suddenly stop reproduce then what happen in long term? they are the one replacing the dumbass people that have zero child policy.

and base on statistic majority of wealth will be gone in 2 or 3 generation. the top will be replace by others climbing the social economic ladder


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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Jul 2 2024, 08:32 AM)
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Then it will make their customer base smaller right...

But you're right I encountered it before. In neighbouring country topkek

But then won't it trigger suspicion how come everyday this doctor get ewallet transfer? I mean... that doctor better come up with a good reason... he become ah long doing micro loans?


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This is kacang putih compare to aesthetic surgeon. I know someone in that line steady steady RM300k-RM500k monthly.
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60k too much. Untung sikit2 cukuplah. 12K cukup.

One day AI can replace doctors, especially clinic types.
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sembangggg

when u die due to wrong prescription from AI, go sue AI ya

12k cukup? maybe coz u b40 then u think its enough
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 2 2024, 09:14 AM)
U have a point - i have friends like this.

B40 breeds b40.

But to say majority? Nah . Ini culture masing masing.

Chinese parents kiasu,thats why when small , they keep saying if u don’t study u end up loser like the rubbish man.

Some elite malays also instill  this culture to their kids .don’t be a loser.

Our gov should teach this instead.
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unker means back in unker days in the 70...

now of coz better life quality, so most famili at least can apply PTPTN to go Uni.

but last time if unker ditch famili go uni, famili will kecai, cant imagine all my adik now can finished uni.
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 2 2024, 09:14 AM)
U have a point - i have friends like this.

B40 breeds b40.

But to say majority? Nah . Ini culture masing masing.

Chinese parents kiasu,thats why when small , they keep saying if u don’t study u end up loser like the rubbish man.

Some elite malays also instill  this culture to their kids .don’t be a loser.

Our gov should teach this instead.
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If you encourage everyone to have this mindset

It will be difficult to govern malaysia

Look at Singapore

Even their leaders have such high level qualifications... the people still question them
Lee hsien long is a senior wrangler. This one is duno top what of the population...and people still can claim he is in the position because of other factors etc... even mahatiew acknowledged it. Dumb population, easier control.

Their minister just get few k also kena tangkap... ahjib laughing at him..topkek

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Thats because the offer something more specialised than what a normal clinic can offer. Of course can charge more
Errr, specialist are not paid any basic by the hospital. All their income is derived from how many patients they see a day. Specialists are sorta running their own business in the hospital. The hosp just takes a certain % from their monthly income

The reason why specialists can make alot of money is because most patients are claiming insurance. So its the insurance that is ensuring high income for the specialists. And majority of insurance can only be claimed when one is admitted to hospital and not a normal clinic
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u do know B40 is just a number where pople can move in and out the line

there are people who do business from zero later have 10 shop and theres huge company  ceo then went bankrupt

if all b40 suddenly stop reproduce then what happen in long term? they are the one replacing the dumbass people that have zero child policy.

and base on statistic majority of wealth will be gone in 2 or 3 generation. the top will be replace by others climbing the social economic ladder
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how so? if its so easy, so many of them wouldnt have stuck in it multiple generations, would it?

so making more children while you are poor as fuck make you smarter than those who dont do the same thing?

ayam came from b40 background and i tell myself if im not making 20-30k steadily every month i will never think of getting a partner or building a family with kids

dont torture the kids just because you are poor and incapable, thats just pure selfishness puke.gif
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/k always fuckin sour whenever theres topics about rich or well off people

no wonder so many malaysians stuck in b40 stage albeit old age, dont la be a keyboard warrior and always hate on others

you wont wakeup with more money in your pocket by talking rubbish online
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 2 2024, 09:31 AM)
how so? if its so easy, so many of them wouldnt have stuck in it multiple generations, would it?

so making more children while you are poor as fuck make you smarter than those who dont do the same thing?

ayam came from b40 background and i tell myself if im not making 20-30k steadily every month i will never think of getting a partner or building a family with kids

dont torture the kids just because you are poor and incapable, thats just pure selfishness  puke.gif
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u need 20 to 30k a month to raise kids. then u need to prorities where ur money go. dont confius between needs and wants. and going to the top is progress. my household income when i got my first child is 3k only. now 3 child house hold income already over 15k edy.

unless im spending on shit ass stuff i do have a lot of saving. not touching my partner income
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Jul 2 2024, 07:21 AM)
She’s lucky, but this is almost unattainable for new graduates

Most will be stuck in mo job or open up their own clinic because almost impossible to do masters

If rich parents then can specialise overseas and come back then different la
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QUOTE(Oishiteru @ Jul 2 2024, 08:55 AM)
earnin 60-100k oso wan sakit kepala ke.. tats one sakit kepala every1 shud hav
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sembangggg

when u die due to wrong prescription from AI, go sue AI ya

12k cukup? maybe coz u b40 then u think its enough
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I B40. 1.6K cukop.

Die ready how to sue?
When you die due to doctor give wrong prescription you wanna come back from hell and sue the doctor ka?
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willing to bet the father mother surely from high ranking govt officers or T20 backgrounds...coz usually they have the "know-how" knowledge, what to apply, who to approach, who to deal with....
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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jul 2 2024, 09:37 AM)
u need 20 to 30k a month to raise kids. then u need to prorities where ur money go. dont confius between needs and wants. and going to the top is progress. my household income when i got my first child is 3k only. now 3 child house hold income already over 15k edy. 

unless im spending on shit ass stuff i do have a lot of saving. not  touching my partner income
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u can always go for the bare minimum, nothing wrong with that

thats like saying a kancil can get you from point A to B anyways why bother buying newer and better car

but thats probably not what your kids wanted or needed, just that the parent wasnt well off enough to provide a better living condition


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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 2 2024, 09:35 AM)
/k always fuckin sour whenever theres topics about rich or well off people

no wonder so many malaysians stuck in b40 stage albeit old age, dont la be a keyboard warrior and always hate on others

you wont wakeup with more money in your pocket by talking rubbish online
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Heheheh agree last time I post anonymously here and got post salary slip before

Then still got ppl say coolstory

Then now this doctor come on video and say how much she earn... still ppl say coolstory

Hmmm what benefit she get ah by telling everyone on video

I wouldn't tell strangers how much I earn

Even my own aunt ask me also I just reduce by half and she says wow quite good

Basically, many ppl are jelly. Even own family can become green eye. Example me in SG but my singaporean uncle might be behind syok how come im pendatang but making more than him?

hksgmy ever had this fear or not. Nowadays I read online so many people talking bout people taking away jobs etc...last time when u were training maybe this mindset not so prevalent?I rmbr when I was applying for promotion , I felt scared to tell people I wanna apply because they might become green eye and try to backstab me...but that was misconstrued as me not being serious and just applying for fun... people thought eh u didn't declare from beginning, last minute u tell us.. u sure u want or u just trying for fun.

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 2 2024, 09:35 AM)
/k always fuckin sour whenever theres topics about rich or well off people

no wonder so many malaysians stuck in b40 stage albeit old age, dont la be a keyboard warrior and always hate on others

you wont wakeup with more money in your pocket by talking rubbish online
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and they will argue with you impossible to have 7 digit in your 30s.


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jgn jealous. ibu bapa ask you to study hard, tapi tak .ahu nak rempit
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 2 2024, 07:52 AM)
I have been hearing that more than 10 years ago. Until this day, AI still hasn't replaced any of our jobs. Heck, we still have drivers, delivery guys, janitors etc.
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because you are living in a 3rd world country, 1st world countries like China and the US already have driverless taxis, warehouses with nearly fully robotic operations n etc, wait until everything becomes mature, efficient, and low-cost, making it affordable for 3rd world country to implement, then you will see lul
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QUOTE(ahchat @ Jul 2 2024, 09:45 AM)
willing to bet the father mother surely from high ranking govt officers or T20 backgrounds...coz usually they have the "know-how" knowledge, what to apply, who to approach, who to deal with....
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my high school friend from cina school managed to enter top med school in malaysia and a now a specialist.

her fader is a famous prof in that uni
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 2 2024, 09:35 AM)
/k always fuckin sour whenever theres topics about rich or well off people

no wonder so many malaysians stuck in b40 stage albeit old age, dont la be a keyboard warrior and always hate on others

you wont wakeup with more money in your pocket by talking rubbish online
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tot u elite edi know that not just always literally common thing here seen the replies too obvious

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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Jul 2 2024, 09:51 AM)
'satu tauke saya kenal dia dulu pun mat rempit, spm fail semua subjek, tapi skrg dia jadi boss woi'
because you are living in a 3rd world country, 1st world countries like China and the US already have driverless taxis, warehouses with nearly fully robotic operations n etc,  wait until everything becomes mature, efficient, and low-cost, making it affordable for 3rd world country to implement, then you will see lul
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There is no doubt AI may help with some function

Example they may pre- report an x Ray
But ultimately some responsibility needs to lie on a human being

So a human being still needs to certify what the AI says is true. Because u can't sue the AI if shit goes wrong. Nor will the company of the AI be willing to be sued.

Btw to accountants here, has your jib been taken over by AI? I know last time accountant's used to do manual calculation but after excel came out everything became sort of partially automated.

But in the end it made accountant job easier , but didn't totally replace accountant.


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QUOTE(gashout @ Jul 2 2024, 09:52 AM)
my high school friend from cina school managed to enter top med school in malaysia and a now a specialist.

her fader is a famous prof in that uni
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She is pediatric surgeon ka?

Or pediatrcian
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To be honest 60k is not a lot, especially for a healthcare specialist earning in Ringgit Malaysia (RM).
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my high school friend from cina school managed to enter top med school in malaysia and a now a specialist.

her fader is a famous prof in that uni
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perks of having well-known figure or important figure in your family...

but yeah, not all turns up good..some ended up perabis duit mak bapak jugak sweat.gif
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To be honest 60k is not a lot, especially for a healthcare specialist earning in Ringgit Malaysia (RM).
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i think malaysia punya neuro surgeon easily can get 200k per month
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monthly 60k?
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i think malaysia punya neuro surgeon easily can get 200k per month
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Easily.
Personally know a gastroenterologist that can 6 figures private practice in a private hospital.
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She is pediatric surgeon ka?

Or pediatrcian
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consultant pediatrician lah

top specialization field with good money prospect and not too difficult to get is like pediatric, eye and O&B

there are other with much higher income but difficult to get like neurosurgeon

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To be honest 60k is not a lot, especially for a healthcare specialist earning in Ringgit Malaysia (RM).
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Depends what field

If those with short training years ok.. some parallel pathway like few years can be specialist alrdy

But if you're a surgeon making that amount nowadays many influencer making that in early years.. surgical training is long and tough.. and more competitive becsuse u can't easily take parallel pathway
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 2 2024, 09:59 AM)
consultant pediatrician lah

top specialization field with good money prospect and not too difficult to get is like pediatric, eye and O&B

there are other with much higher income but difficult to get like neurosurgeon
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neurosurgeon is really2 mahal gaji weyyy...hundred thousand punya gaji right??
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neurosurgeon is really2 mahal gaji weyyy...hundred thousand punya gaji right??
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easily bro, if cross the strait to singapore, ayam heard hearsay can get 200k sgd per month easily
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easily bro, if cross the strait to singapore, ayam heard hearsay can get 200k sgd per month easily
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U can't easily cross strait

Medicine is one of those fields where regulations are very tight... what more in SG... they only recognise 2 medical school from Malaysia.

Even if you are top malaysian doctor, u wanna go over u will face many restrictions.like u will be placed under supervision for few years ... that's why u don't see people crossing over like other fields easily... u see those accounting, management people, easily from Malaysia transfer to sg office ...

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jul 2 2024, 10:04 AM)
U can't easily cross strait

Medicine is one of those fields where regulations are very tight... what more in SG... they only recognise 2 medical school from Malaysia.

Even if you are top malaysian doctor, u wanna go over u will face many restrictions.like u will be placed under supervision for few years ... that's why u don't see people crossing over like other fields easily... u see those accounting, management people, easily from Malaysia transfer to sg office ...
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Most I know don't cross south, they fly to Aussie
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That’s why even tissue paper you use also kena charge at private hosp

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Tissue paper?

I press loceng only already got surcharge. cb one
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Tissue paper?

I press loceng only already got surcharge. cb one
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Partially is to deter people from pressing unncessarily

U imagine , all those entitled people then pressing every time just for nurse to get something they can do themselves...

How? Just penalise them every time they press it lor

When things are free they're not appreciated.

That's why I believe medication shouldn't be free

Free alrdy, people just throw it aside..

If u paid for it, u will say ill finish this course of medication because I paid for it

Nobody will say cukur, this med free so I finish it.

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Jul 2 2024, 07:21 AM)
She’s lucky, but this is almost unattainable for new graduates

Most will be stuck in mo job or open up their own clinic because almost impossible to do masters

If rich parents then can specialise overseas and come back then different la
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MY has the infamous UniITM to depend on, cheap but quality suspected.

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you're wrong. you remember when steam engine coming, got stupid workers digging using cangkul say, maybe in the future steam engine will replace us, but definitely not happening within our lifetime

respected expert globally already say will happen within 10 years


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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jul 2 2024, 10:04 AM)
U can't easily cross strait

Medicine is one of those fields where regulations are very tight... what more in SG... they only recognise 2 medical school from Malaysia.

Even if you are top malaysian doctor, u wanna go over u will face many restrictions.like u will be placed under supervision for few years ... that's why u don't see people crossing over like other fields easily... u see those accounting, management people, easily from Malaysia transfer to sg office ...
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there are some jobs that cannot hop easily. bilateral gomen approval is needed.
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Gov workers dont deserve the raise.

go there always have to wait 4 hours bcs their lunchtime from 12pm-3pm. after 3pm somemore have to wait.

knn work gov no stress why need to get paid so much
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Gov workers dont deserve the raise.

go there always have to wait 4 hours bcs their lunchtime from 12pm-3pm. after 3pm somemore have to wait.

knn work gov no stress why need to get paid so much
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Not for healthcare definitely.
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Bet this doctor orchestrated those doctor's rally and now has capitalized on that.
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Many surgeons and consultants earn more than rm 60k/month.

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jul 2 2024, 10:04 AM)
U can't easily cross strait

Medicine is one of those fields where regulations are very tight... what more in SG... they only recognise 2 medical school from Malaysia.

Even if you are top malaysian doctor, u wanna go over u will face many restrictions.like u will be placed under supervision for few years ... that's why u don't see people crossing over like other fields easily... u see those accounting, management people, easily from Malaysia transfer to sg office ...
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Surely SG recognise UniITM esp its infamous one&only cardiothoracic in MY, no?
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Jul 2 2024, 07:21 AM)
She’s lucky, but this is almost unattainable for new graduates

Most will be stuck in mo job or open up their own clinic because almost impossible to do masters

If rich parents then can specialise overseas and come back then different la
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you do not need to go oversea do specialization, you can take external paper which can be a path to become specialist but just make sure recognized.

People who rich enough dont usually comeback unless they have emotional/ family connection because they can earn far more oversea
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 2 2024, 07:28 AM)
those who're specialist in niche department can make that much
but...there is a big BUT

sakit kepala when comes to pay income tax...better calculate how much is your actual usable salary before spend all 60k and can't pay the loans
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itu timbalan menteri kewangan ada bukak cerita....
doktor gaji besar ni bukak satu enterprise ....put salary in.
cukup masa declare tax ...

this is call shadow economy
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 2 2024, 07:28 AM)
those who're specialist in niche department can make that much
but...there is a big BUT

sakit kepala when comes to pay income tax...better calculate how much is your actual usable salary before spend all 60k and can't pay the loans
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Those who say she got pay tax ornot reli bangwall.gif .
Gov / private hosp corporate sure got deduct PCB la with EA form . U think she work as underground doc , help taiko remove bullet a?

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why u guys macam so surprise people make more than 10k/month lol
are you all really the losers that can only make 2-3k/month working for SME or something?
the more kekwa are the international losers that came back to msia then make 1/4th their salary in US AUS CAN EU etc
are you guys being brain washed by the entry level position that pays 2k/month in msia or something?
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 2 2024, 09:46 AM)
u can always go for the bare minimum, nothing wrong with that

thats like saying a kancil can get you from point A to B anyways why bother buying newer and better car

but thats probably not what your kids wanted or needed, just that the parent wasnt well off enough to provide a better living condition
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your kids want is not a priority , what they need is. im using a civic. still have extra to send my kids to swimming, silat and archery class. plus online tution.

they are doing good at school and my target is to build up their character. which dont cost u actually. and im not living under a bridge too. not a 10k sqf mansion but 2 storey terrace. which is enough.

we kinda lucky because both of us can still grow interm of income. but my point still the same. we build up with the family. not until all setup then later br nak ada anak. unless u are man in his 40 married a 25 years old then its ok i guess
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Ai is a tool. Not a replacement for an actual human being

Maybe in the future it will, but definitely not happening within our lifetime
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P&C info but you will see AI implementation within 3-5 years in developed countries
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Jul 2 2024, 12:02 PM)
Those who say she got pay tax ornot reli  bangwall.gif .
Gov / private hosp corporate sure got deduct PCB la with EA form . U think she work as underground doc , help taiko remove bullet a?
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i help public healthcare worker do tax
they don't have PCB but yes, they have to do their own tax

and yes, many of them either don't declare taxx, don't pay tax or abuse the deduction...end up all kena caught
they have a misconception that public servant don't need to pay income tax
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you do not need to go oversea do specialization, you can take external paper which can be a path to become specialist  but just make sure recognized.

People who rich enough dont usually comeback unless they have emotional/ family  connection because they can earn far more oversea
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technically, life of rich doctor is much better here than overseas

Australia cost of living like kok

my aunty is gp there but cant work because at home nanny childcare is same like her salary and shes in the outback with no daycare

essentials and housing also so expensive

uk salary for nhs doctor is very low, private locum is hard to get

usa need to do boards, hardest exam in the world, and also need to worry about guns

malaysia if you rich life is good, especially when booking flights business is always cheapest when leaving kl because most cant afford the sgd or usd or gbp price
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P&C info but you will see AI implementation within 3-5 years in developed countries
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as a tool or as a replacement for actual human being?
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Taiko, you easily more than sgd60k?
Lai flex a bit, motivate us
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The race is run. Now the baton has been passed onto younger, hungrier /ktards.
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Ma dad's cardiologist, there's only around 6 person like him in the country. For sure gaji 60k above
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With medicolitigation cases on the rise, and the payout keeps setting record high, doctors, especially specialist have to have high salary to pay for the court cases and costs.
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Ma dad's cardiologist, there's only around 6 person like him in the country. For sure gaji 60k above
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you sure or not? columbia asia alone got 9 cardiologist
https://www.columbiaasia.com/malaysia/docto...jspecialty=1066

i think you are talking about cardio thoracic surgeon here, specialist that do open heart surgery wan.

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Jul 2 2024, 12:29 PM)
why u guys macam so surprise people make more than 10k/month lol
are you all really the losers that can only make 2-3k/month working for SME or something?
the more kekwa are the international losers that came back to msia then make 1/4th their salary in US AUS CAN EU etc
are you guys being brain washed by the entry level position that pays 2k/month in msia or something?
6 figure monthly salary should be quite common. 7 figure more eye catching.

just noted sinkieland airlines CEO RM28m annual salary (RM2.3 million monthly) in the news.
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honestly 60k ni bare minimum utk private specialist. My colleague who owns chain clinic now goyang kaki earning 200k per month doing nothing
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U can't easily cross strait

Medicine is one of those fields where regulations are very tight... what more in SG... they only recognise 2 medical school from Malaysia.

Even if you are top malaysian doctor, u wanna go over u will face many restrictions.like u will be placed under supervision for few years ... that's why u don't see people crossing over like other fields easily... u see those accounting, management people, easily from Malaysia transfer to sg office ...
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cross straits assist in 1 op already RM10k.
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Certain Subspecialist are highly demanded they wont bother to look at your degree pon. My surgeon friends working there now.
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Who? They maybe doing attachment... but not consultant right. Sg has lots of doctors doing attachment there , my friend say is called flowship or something

It's hard for a malaysia trained Dr to go there to be consultant. Like a lateral move . Most likely they will downgrade you . It's like in malaysia u r managing director but go sg they give u general manager... yes still can work there but the details are important.

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Jul 2 2024, 01:34 PM)
technically, life of rich doctor is much better here than overseas

Australia cost of living like kok

my aunty is gp there but cant work because at home nanny childcare is same like her salary and shes in the outback with no daycare

essentials and housing also so expensive

uk salary for nhs doctor is very low, private locum is hard to get

usa need to do boards, hardest exam in the world, and also need to worry about guns

malaysia if you rich life is good, especially when booking flights business is always cheapest when leaving kl because most cant afford the sgd or usd or gbp price
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Overseas, income tax crazi..go Europe income tax can hit 55% for the rich.....Here good life as income tax is low....and can hire maids at home...Go US or UK they cant even afford to hire maid....unless u r billionaires...
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it depends. Sinkieland first S$20k = no tax. That's RM70k no tax. Next S$10k = 2%. That's effectively RM700 tax on RM105,000 income.

In bolehland, one would be in 25% tax band for RM100+k salary.

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Jul 2 2024, 04:22 PM)
it depends. Sinkieland first S$20k = no tax. That's RM70k no tax. Next S$10k = 2%. That's effectively RM700 tax on RM105,000 income.

In bolehland, one would be in 25% tax band for RM100+k salary.
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Foreigner pay flat rate income tax in Singapore I think

The tiered tax bracket is for citizen and PR I think
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 2 2024, 04:25 PM)
Foreigner pay flat rate income tax in Singapore I think

The tiered tax bracket is for citizen and PR I think
If work above 6 months in sinkieland, claim tax resident = tax at local rates. Most bolehlanders working in sinkieland would be long term, not short term.

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you're wrong. you remember when steam engine coming, got stupid workers digging using cangkul say, maybe in the future steam engine will replace us, but definitely not happening within our lifetime

respected expert globally already say will happen within 10 years


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Those "global experts" also been saying that 10 years ago, and the 10 years ago before that

You ask the actual people working on AI and knows how AI works. They will tell you the truth, and not the hyped up stuff that companies are selling.

Simple case in point. Look at programmers, our work is probably one of the most available and properly tagged data source there is. Yet, there's no AI that can code properly. Any decent programmer using AI tools to help them code, eventually ditches it cause it was wasting their time and making them slower overall.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 2 2024, 07:52 AM)
I have been hearing that more than 10 years ago. Until this day, AI still hasn't replaced any of our jobs. Heck, we still have drivers, delivery guys, janitors etc.
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step by step


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Its a progression.

For manufacturing countries like bolehland, the risk is from automation.

Right now, jobs are also being RPA-ed. That's only routine work right now. As AI gets incorporated, the work that is being replaced will gradually expand to more cognitive work. The most visible and direct replacement are the use of chatgpt eg in creative writing (remember Hollywood scriptwriters strike?)

Actually the risk is quite high considering that low or semi-skilled jobs are probably the ones that face the greatest risks. Its just that the introduction will also be innocuous to avoid staff uprisings.
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60k how much tax ooo. This one wira negara
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60K if fully reported, tax should be more than some people's salaries.
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MY has the infamous UniITM to depend on, cheap but quality suspected.
Yes just like AI+EV+Solar is going to crush ICE in coming decade.
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AI + solar sure. 100% fyi one can use AI + solar to make green synthetic fuel for ICE so please don't soo bodoh and extremist with your views

try to understand what exactly mean by EV

if you mean tesla/byd shit car with battery that going to blowup and only last several years and costs 50% of the car cost and self-discharge daily.... will you bet your balls that it will 100% crush ICE? i bet you don't have the balls to believe that. if you did, then put all your money in shittyEV stocks now. otherwise try to have some sense.

if you mean electric bus, van, train, yes, maybe

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 2 2024, 05:00 PM)
Those "global experts" also been saying that 10 years ago, and the 10 years ago before that

You ask the actual people working on AI and knows how AI works. They will tell you the truth, and not the hyped up stuff that companies are selling.

Simple case in point. Look at programmers, our work is probably one of the most available and properly tagged data source there is. Yet, there's no AI that can code properly. Any decent programmer using AI tools to help them code, eventually ditches it cause it was wasting their time and making them slower overall.
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no they have not.

who is the actual AI expert you asked?

are you a programmer? and you don't use AI? your boss should schedule performance improvement plan before giving you formal warning


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 2 2024, 08:40 AM)
let do some math

medicine course 5 year (if not repeating semester)
HO 2 years (if really good, and don't need extension)
MO like maybe 4 -5 years
Specialist training - hard to say 3 years maybe
Specialist at KKM - bond- not sure how long, but my friend can cabut after 5 years

so 20 years of your life before the good life begin

many comrade fallen during the 20 years
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I read it in this way:
Age 18 - 22 : medicine course 5 year (if not repeating semester)
Age 23 - 24 : HO 2 years (if really good, and don't need extension)
Age 25 - 29 : MO like maybe 4 -5 years
Age 30 - 32 : Specialist training - hard to say 3 years maybe
Age 33 - 37 : Specialist at KKM - bond- not sure how long, but my friend can cabut after 5 years

So age 37 in average calculation, start to have RM 100k month?
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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Jul 2 2024, 06:07 PM)
I read it in this way:
Age 18 - 22 : medicine course 5 year (if not repeating semester)
Age 23 - 24 : HO 2 years (if really good, and don't need extension)
Age 25 - 29 : MO like maybe 4 -5 years
Age 30 - 32 : Specialist training - hard to say 3 years maybe
Age 33 - 37 : Specialist at KKM - bond- not sure how long, but my friend can cabut after 5 years

So age 37 in average calculation, start to have RM 100k month?
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depending on specialization and whether you run own clinic

can be anyway between 30 to 100k
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AI + solar sure. 100% fyi one can use AI + solar to make green synthetic fuel for ICE so please don't soo bodoh and extremist with your views

try to understand what exactly mean by EV

if you mean tesla/byd shit car with battery that going to blowup and only last several years and costs 50% of the car cost and self-discharge daily.... will you bet your balls that it will 100% crush ICE? i bet you don't have the balls to believe that. if you did, then put all your money in shittyEV stocks now. otherwise try to have some sense.

if you mean electric bus, van, train, yes, maybe
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So triggered n vulgar, it shows the type of person u r, can't take it when r wrong. Waste my breadth to talk to u. Adios.
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where can get fast track specialist
i want to become cardiac and neuro surgeon
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QUOTE(jayakumarsc2 @ Jul 2 2024, 05:59 PM)
no they have not.

who is the actual AI expert you asked?

Most people I know doing actual work in AI.

You can also read this article la: https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fuck...ntion-ai-again/

There are certain workloads that A.I. are good at, like pattern recognition through tremendous amount of processing. Like what alphafold3 has achieved. Its predicted a lot of things, but you're still going to need the actual top tier scientists to validate.

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Tell me you're a mid programmer without telling me you're a mid programmer.

You obviously don't understand how these AI systems work, otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to be so proud that you're using A.I. to code.

In case you didn't know how it works, A.I. works on statistics. By definition, whatever it outputs is average. Do you think the average code on the internet is good? Do you know why talent programmers get paid so much? because writing good code is HARD. I bet you were one of the sheep that got impressed by devin.ai when it first launched laugh.gif

Maybe this amount of text is too difficult for you to process, so I use something that might be more to your level:

Understanding why LLM gives crappy code


Another example:


I also had the same experience as them, as did many of the talented software engineers I know. If you're not good, then sure it looks like its helping, if you're anywhere decent it actually starts to slow you down.
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my baby's doc / wife's gynae probably 6 digit per month. damn famous
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So triggered n vulgar, it shows the type of person u r, can't take it when r wrong. Waste my breadth to talk to u. Adios.
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when you have no facts to convince everyone, accuse the other of being vulgar. lol.

adios


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Most people I know doing actual work in AI.

You can also read this article la: https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fuck...ntion-ai-again/

There are certain workloads that A.I. are good at, like pattern recognition through tremendous amount of processing. Like what alphafold3 has achieved. Its predicted a lot of things, but you're still going to need the actual top tier scientists to validate.
Tell me you're a mid programmer without telling me you're a mid programmer.

You obviously don't understand how these AI systems work, otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to be so proud that you're using A.I. to code.

In case you didn't know how it works, A.I. works on statistics. By definition, whatever it outputs is average. Do you think the average code on the internet is good? Do you know why talent programmers get paid so much? because writing good code is HARD. I bet you were one of the sheep that got impressed by devin.ai when it first launched laugh.gif

Maybe this amount of text is too difficult for you to process, so I use something that might be more to your level:

Understanding why LLM gives crappy code


Another example:


I also had the same experience as them, as did many of the talented software engineers I know. If you're not good, then sure it looks like its helping, if you're anywhere decent it actually starts to slow you down.
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lol. so arrogant.

what have you coded that is impressive? fyi your brain also works using statistics.


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cukur son got 60k to spend every month now
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step by step


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Long way to go la. In 100 years time also AI wont fully replace humans. For AI to replace humans, the AI itself need to be human

So by the time that happens, u and i wont even be here anymore
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See who said Malay folks salary earning is low, here is the proof Malay also can do better if you study hard enough and stop complaining.

if the article pick a chinese sure one side will bomber their Akmal 3R comments.


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private hospital some earning 100k a months, cos they perform surgery and all those procedure.
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9 pages, and everybody focusing on her 60k earning but not her true message.

Kerja kena bertahan, gigih, perseverance in continued effort despite difficulties.
She kept emphasize ie undergoing training, 15 yrs in gov sector etc etc

The message, 60k does not grow on trees for her overnight monthly plucking la

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She lucky to have good career, with hard working and commitment she is now where she wants to be.

Some of us, working hard 10, 20 years also salary RM5-7k only that why she is consider great in her career..

QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jul 3 2024, 10:06 AM)
9 pages, and everybody focusing on her 60k earning but not her true message.

Kerja kena bertahan, gigih, perseverance in continued effort despite difficulties.
She kept emphasize ie undergoing training, 15 yrs in gov sector etc etc

The message, 60k does not grow on trees for her monthly plucking la
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