Either sukhoi su-57 or kpop kf-21

RMAF to get Sukhoi stealth fighter
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Jun 25 2024, 08:08 PM, updated 2y ago
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Jun 25 2024, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 25 2024, 08:08 PM) Bodoh only go buy Sukhoi Ukraine war has shown how bad it is. |
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Jun 25 2024, 08:12 PM
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foooh.... menggeletar satu asia tenggara. nak beli tayar je ataupun wayar?
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Jun 25 2024, 08:14 PM
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who the fuck wrote this sei sohai news?
this 2213 sources come from their butthole? |
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Jun 25 2024, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 25 2024, 08:10 PM) Ejen Madani mana la nak cucuk line ni But tho really got the necessity for new jets right?Felon delivery tuk Russian Air Force pun sangkut ada hati nak bawa masuk TUDM. Buy Kuwait second hand hornet first, long time down the line only buy this |
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Jun 25 2024, 08:17 PM
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2030 ah? WW3 already over.
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Jun 25 2024, 08:24 PM
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This writer masturbate the source from his penis?
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Jun 25 2024, 08:27 PM
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dengar boleh, percaya jangan
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Jun 25 2024, 08:32 PM
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Russian kena sanction lol,plus one of their su57 got droned while parking
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Jun 25 2024, 08:43 PM
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Pity not getting old Lockheed F117 stealth fighters...
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Jun 25 2024, 08:45 PM
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Jun 25 2024, 08:46 PM
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Maybe to bait US for better counter offer ~ 18 Super Hornet bill11 liked this post
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Jun 25 2024, 08:53 PM
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Better F-16V
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Jun 25 2024, 08:55 PM
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We are better than indon?
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Jun 25 2024, 08:56 PM
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Jun 25 2024, 08:57 PM
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Hahaha dream on la.
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Jun 25 2024, 09:00 PM
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Bundle with jet engine or not
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Jun 25 2024, 09:00 PM
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Jun 25 2024, 09:01 PM
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This shit look nice, but it doesnt work
Just like the stupud cybertruck |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:02 PM
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Only see KPop 5th gen the most possible that we can get, hopefully the jet already mature by that time. Turkish one probably needs more time than KPop 5th gen.
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Jun 25 2024, 09:05 PM
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Stealth invisible tech fighter jet our BOUSTARD can make for our army…
No need waste money buy from outside…. 😼😼😼😼😼 |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:12 PM
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LOL
Not gonna happen. TUDM will get used Legacy Hornet first. Enough for 2 squadrons (24 jets) + spares. Genius move because new FA50 jets also uses same Hornet engine. Just bought 18 units . One more round of 18 units =36 new jets 36+24 =60 jets is good for another 15 years. |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:15 PM
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Suck57?
Well rip KEK 😂🍟🍿🍷🤭👀 |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Jun 25 2024, 09:12 PM) LOL Maybe got options to change FA50 to KF-21 boramaeNot gonna happen. TUDM will get used Legacy Hornet first. Enough for 2 squadrons (24 jets) + spares. Genius move because new FA50 jets also uses same Hornet engine. Just bought 18 units . One more round of 18 units =36 new jets 36+24 =60 jets is good for another 15 years. Kpop also must be eager to sell their jets |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:20 PM
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real fighter jet has a dick.
only Russian jets have. |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 25 2024, 09:19 PM) KF21 probably need time, let KPop airforce get their first batch by 2028,let them test it and wait for fix and upgrades, they plan to have 40 jet first by that year.This post has been edited by yongku99: Jun 25 2024, 09:26 PM |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:30 PM
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Joke aside: Even the F-14 can take down the SU-57 in Top Gun: Maverick.
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Jun 25 2024, 09:31 PM
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Who is the author of the article, legit ke?
So is this one of the reason to join BRICS? Bila nak remove tongkat RON95? |
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Jun 25 2024, 09:50 PM
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Jun 25 2024, 09:54 PM
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Even India get out from the Russian Su-57 project years ago.
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Jun 25 2024, 10:03 PM
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SU-57 sounds scary But yea, no need so many. We will not attack anyone and vice versa 😁 |
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Jun 26 2024, 12:28 AM
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Jun 26 2024, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 26 2024, 12:28 AM) F16 already proven plane .....thousand flying around the world .nothing to prove anymore.btw what Ukraine getting is old version that people already phased out.If Ukraine get f35, than lain cerita . |
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Jun 26 2024, 01:01 AM
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Suluk warriors (since they are everywhere) just use Sumpit drones and hit it at the airport
Just like what Ukraine is doing. |
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Jun 26 2024, 02:41 AM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 25 2024, 08:15 PM) But tho really got the necessity for new jets right? We actually have a gap left by the MIGBuy Kuwait second hand hornet first, long time down the line only buy this and with Hawk with small operating years behind it the thing is, even the Russian Air Force are struggling with Felon delivery to the force only small units were delivered in there 2 or 4 years timeline for export? silap2 2045 pun belum tentu that is why the Golden Eagle are chosen, but still it will only cater the Hawk/MB339 roles on Kuwait hornet, I will be believe it when I see it iinm the next team will go to Kuwait next month so we will see about that but also it does not fill the gap, it just complement the current Hornet Squadron the best for RMAF so far is actually invest in proper 5th gen project like Turks or the Brits Tempest iit actually will be a long term solution for us. This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Jun 26 2024, 02:42 AM |
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Jun 26 2024, 02:43 AM
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just buy whatever singapore is buying
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Jun 26 2024, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 25 2024, 08:11 PM) if you actually follows the Ukraine war closely you'll see that the SU27 doing wonderful in Air Superiority!QUOTE(BL98 @ Jun 26 2024, 02:43 AM) why not, but we actually have 2 front role fighter doctrineso 2 unit used to be Hornet (MRCA) and MIG (Intercepter) then MKM (MRCA) and MIG with Hornet as (Bomber and Precision/Night Strike) |
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Jun 26 2024, 03:06 AM
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Should indeed buy J-35 from DaGe
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Jun 26 2024, 05:45 AM
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april fool in jun? se....low.
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Jun 26 2024, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ Jun 26 2024, 12:53 AM) F16 already proven plane .....thousand flying around the world .nothing to prove anymore.btw what Ukraine getting is old version that people already phased out. Battle is the only way to test whether an old phased out fighter jet could toople ruski bastard top form planeIf Ukraine get f35, than lain cerita . |
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Jun 26 2024, 08:05 AM
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Generation 5 jets ke?
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Jun 26 2024, 09:33 AM
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this SU-57 news macam to bait others to give them a better package je
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Jun 26 2024, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 25 2024, 08:10 PM) Ejen Madani mana la nak cucuk line ni nanti West hold back parts and microchip.Felon delivery tuk Russian Air Force pun sangkut ada hati nak bawa masuk TUDM. the Su-57 will make Potong parts issue look like a joke. Better not buy. Some more no country other than Russia has used it, we don't know its serviceability and handling. More Ragu Ragu is that why Russia has not used it in Ukraine war? Not stealth enough to avoid Ukraine radar ? Even at beginning of war Ukraine used S-300 also sked to use Su-57. Even their most regular customer IAF has not buy it and that says a lot. This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Jun 26 2024, 09:39 AM |
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Jun 26 2024, 09:40 AM
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KAI KF-21 Boramae should be 1st choice for our 5th gen fighter jet.
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Jun 26 2024, 09:43 AM
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Do we even have pilots to fly them?
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Jun 26 2024, 09:53 AM
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Since Kpop 5th gen will surely mature first than the Turkish Kaan, Kpop might getting 40 jet by 2028, not surprise it might be Malaysia choice by 2030s. Wonder if our old Dage UK 6th gen Tempest project looking for investor.
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QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 25 2024, 08:11 PM) lmao i think you missed the part Sukhois and MiGs are generously pummeling ukraine via FABs with hundreds of sorties in a weekbut hey, keep up with the western koolaid aside to OP, unlikely any order to Russia will go through, MY have no means to counter US's CAATSA if they did want to buy Sukhois |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 26 2024, 09:59 AM) lmao i think you missed the part Sukhois and MiGs are generously pummeling ukraine via FABs with hundreds of sorties in a week FAB is only boms vs landbut hey, keep up with the western koolaid aside to OP, unlikely any order to Russia will go through, MY have no means to counter US's CAATSA if they did want to buy Sukhois We talking about air vs air Do we have a need to bomb land ? Do malaysia intend to bomb others? This post has been edited by Nihonmaru: Jun 26 2024, 11:04 AM |
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 26 2024, 09:39 AM) Pandangan jujur aku? 2015 dulu boleh la Rafale, Rhino, Gripen ni dah terlambat untuk TUDM beli ni semua melainkan sewa untuk Stop Gap. The best is to move forward with 5th gen program When I say program is the whole thing like what we do with A400 program. Not just an aset buyer and involved with the program Tapi itu la, yang duk kat Putrajaya belum tentu share the same sentiment QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 26 2024, 11:04 AM) FAB is only boms vs land What do you think MRCA does?We talking about air vs air Do we have a need to bomb land ? Do malaysia intend to bomb others? The sukhoi actually works well in the war tak kisah la Ukraine or Russia The facts that how fast the NATO wanted to throw the falcons shows how badly the wanted the Air Superiority. marfccy liked this post
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Jun 26 2024, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 26 2024, 11:13 AM) Pandangan jujur aku? Hmmm.. involved with Japanese next gen fighter program?2015 dulu boleh la Rafale, Rhino, Gripen ni dah terlambat untuk TUDM beli ni semua melainkan sewa untuk Stop Gap. The best is to move forward with 5th gen program When I say program is the whole thing like what we do with A400 program. Not just an aset buyer and involved with the program Tapi itu la, yang duk kat Putrajaya belum tentu share the same sentiment What do you think MRCA does? The sukhoi actually works well in the war tak kisah la Ukraine or Russia The facts that how fast the NATO wanted to throw the falcons shows how badly the wanted the Air Superiority. We have ties, we have alot of their factories here actually |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 26 2024, 09:59 AM) lmao i think you missed the part Sukhois and MiGs are generously pummeling ukraine via FABs with hundreds of sorties in a week ktard weapon expert speak like out there got better choice, but giving zero, yes ZERO alternate model lolbut hey, keep up with the western koolaid aside to OP, unlikely any order to Russia will go through, MY have no means to counter US's CAATSA if they did want to buy Sukhois as usual mcm suruh PMX turun, suruh xx minister turun claim they can do it better. |
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 26 2024, 11:21 AM) Hmmm.. involved with Japanese next gen fighter program? Dealings with Japanese will depending on their government policies.We have ties, we have alot of their factories here actually I think the last time we dealt with them in military affairs is when they wanted to give us their P3 Orion and when the Malaysia Baharu shelves the plan they seems to distance their military relations to minimal. Personally I would like to be involved with the Tempest of FCAS program, the Turks/Korean program is also a good program as alternative. ps: Padan muka. Orion tak dapat, Blackhawk Brunei tak dapat, Paladin pun tak dapat, apa bodoh punya kerajaan waktu tu. |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 26 2024, 11:13 AM) The sukhoi actually works well in the war tak kisah la Ukraine or Russia this, but the issue is even with falcons the tide of war isnt gonna change much. it will provide another good platform for UA to strike and defend with, but nowhere in any significant numbers to stem the russian progressThe facts that how fast the NATO wanted to throw the falcons shows how badly the wanted the Air Superiority. not to mention the dwindling ground based AA defense which RU has been systematically eliminating over 2yrs. the falcons too will need a combination of ground AA to perform well if using them as AA platform QUOTE(josh5671 @ Jun 26 2024, 11:26 AM) ktard weapon expert speak like out there got better choice, but giving zero, yes ZERO alternate model lol kecam jgn x kecamas usual mcm suruh PMX turun, suruh xx minister turun claim they can do it better. frankly the better option now is to target the korean/japs/turks/chinese platform. go USA or other NATO planes - generally on the pricier side go RU - affordable, but sure kena sanctioned |
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Jun 26 2024, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 26 2024, 11:58 AM) Dealings with Japanese will depending on their government policies. UK Tempest is 6th Gen right? are they looking for investor around Asia?I think the last time we dealt with them in military affairs is when they wanted to give us their P3 Orion and when the Malaysia Baharu shelves the plan they seems to distance their military relations to minimal. Personally I would like to be involved with the Tempest of FCAS program, the Turks/Korean program is also a good program as alternative. ps: Padan muka. Orion tak dapat, Blackhawk Brunei tak dapat, Paladin pun tak dapat, apa bodoh punya kerajaan waktu tu. |
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Jun 26 2024, 12:26 PM
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The real question is who is the main con and sub cons
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Jun 26 2024, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 26 2024, 12:14 PM) frankly the better option now is to target the korean/japs/turks/chinese platform. Is there a possibility that it is in amdk's interest that a "neutral but frenly" nation like msia wants to get something like su57 export? If they caatsa us, they themselves got to go a long route to spy on russia's front. If they close 1 eye and let msia gets hands on su57 in its fleet, they can even come here to "exercise" with these russian birds in flesh. Just like what they are doing with the su30mkmgo USA or other NATO planes - generally on the pricier side go RU - affordable, but sure kena sanctioned This post has been edited by speedy3210: Jun 26 2024, 01:50 PM |
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Jun 26 2024, 01:48 PM) Is there a possibility that it is in amdk's interest that a "neutral but frenly" nation like msia wants to get something like su57 export? If they caatsa us, they themselves got to go a long route to spy on russia's front. If they close 1 eye and let msia gets hands on su57 in its fleet, they can even come here to "exercise" with these russian birds in flesh. Just like what they are doing with the su30mkm not possible, remember its still business as usual. the more people reliant on US military industry, the more monies they earn. so they shouldnt even allow them to even buy it in first placesame goes for RU and other military manufacturers, they will be happy to quote as long can tie their buyer to them for decades earning money dont think US will also be interested in export models as export models are kinda "crippled". Unless its those special collab/partnership where they did a transfer of tech and knowledge to produce something new (like RU and India and China). we unfortunately, arent there yet |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 26 2024, 12:14 PM) this, but the issue is even with falcons the tide of war isnt gonna change much. it will provide another good platform for UA to strike and defend with, but nowhere in any significant numbers to stem the russian progress not to mention the dwindling ground based AA defense which RU has been systematically eliminating over 2yrs. the falcons too will need a combination of ground AA to perform well if using them as AA platform kecam jgn x kecam frankly the better option now is to target the korean/japs/turks/chinese platform. go USA or other NATO planes - generally on the pricier side go RU - affordable, but sure kena sanctioned That is why I am looking forward to see the falcons in action how 60 unit will change the tide of war! QUOTE(yongku99 @ Jun 26 2024, 12:25 PM) Yes 6th genmcm mana dalam kepala aku Tempest ngan FCAS 5th gen hari ni my apologies Actually BAe very welcomes the users of its fleet into the program including us as the users of Hawk but it's all will depending on the government if they wanted to invest into the project like Tempest, FCAS or GCAP Actually last time when the Fat Amy was here in Kuantan I did joke with the air force officer and lockheed reps for RMAF having operating these birds even though Thai request just got decline. the answer actually might surprise you! yongku99 liked this post
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Jun 26 2024, 06:16 PM
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we already have stealth LCS!
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No money lah, just buy some drones enough lah.
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Jun 26 2024, 06:25 PM
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April fool's joke aside, even if bolehland was seriously considering this, CAATSA alone will make it difficult.
Any sanctions will lose bolehland access to all the "freebies" that murica has been giving eg radars, UAVs. More important, sanctions will directly hit existing aircraft like hornet (lose access to murican maintenance). Even future FA-50 uses a lot of US tech whose approval had to be obtained before bolehland can buy. Get Russian aircraft today, lose non-Russian aircraft tmr. This not realistic. |
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Tempest is dead so forget them. South Korea has spent more money on their Stealth program.
3 countries are now involved in the combined GCAP program. They are not known for cost savings. Furthermore, the planes will not enter service until 2035 and u never know when customers can and will be supplied. What is the price per plane? Any ideas? As a comparison, the wonky F-35 cost $50 bil to develop and US plan to use it until 2080. They're going to force the three stooges to buy more of these instead. QUOTE(yongku99 @ Jun 26 2024, 12:25 PM) |
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LOL...not gonna happen and ktards always pancut awal
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Birds of feather flock together.
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Jun 26 2024, 08:13 PM
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I support Russia...but Su-57 with such huge body and questionable radar absorbent material....could be just a low-RCS aircraft at best.
Might as well choose Rafale with active anti detection suite |
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Jun 26 2024, 08:24 PM
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Jun 26 2024, 09:10 PM
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Japan not known for low cost. Bolehland can afford anything more than low cost?
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Nov 7 2024, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jun 26 2024, 08:13 PM) I support Russia...but Su-57 with such huge body and questionable radar absorbent material....could be just a low-RCS aircraft at best. Why buy jets from the EU countries when they discriminate our palm oil products?Might as well choose Rafale with active anti detection suite |
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Nov 7 2024, 10:17 PM
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1,365 posts Joined: Aug 2005 |
meanwhile Neighbour get f35
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Nov 7 2024, 11:59 PM
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