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 RMAF to get Sukhoi stealth fighter

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Malaysia ke arah kuasa besar [ 14 ] ** [24.14%]
Malaysia ada wang buy meh? [ 30 ] ** [51.72%]
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atreyuangel
post Jun 25 2024, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 25 2024, 08:08 PM)
Timeline 2030-2035

Either sukhoi su-57 or kpop kf-21

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Ejen Madani mana la nak cucuk line ni
Felon delivery tuk Russian Air Force pun sangkut ada hati nak bawa masuk TUDM.
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post Jun 26 2024, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 25 2024, 08:15 PM)
But tho really got the necessity for new jets right?

Buy Kuwait second hand hornet first, long time down the line only buy this
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We actually have a gap left by the MIG
and with Hawk with small operating years behind it

the thing is, even the Russian Air Force are struggling with Felon delivery to the force
only small units were delivered in there 2 or 4 years timeline

for export? silap2 2045 pun belum tentu

that is why the Golden Eagle are chosen, but still it will only cater the Hawk/MB339 roles

on Kuwait hornet, I will be believe it when I see it
iinm the next team will go to Kuwait next month so we will see about that but also it does not fill the gap, it just complement the current Hornet Squadron

the best for RMAF so far is actually invest in proper 5th gen project like Turks or the Brits Tempest
iit actually will be a long term solution for us.

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post Jun 26 2024, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 25 2024, 08:11 PM)
Bodoh only go buy Sukhoi

Ukraine war has shown how bad it is.
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if you actually follows the Ukraine war closely you'll see that the SU27 doing wonderful in Air Superiority!

QUOTE(BL98 @ Jun 26 2024, 02:43 AM)
just buy whatever singapore is buying
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why not, but we actually have 2 front role fighter doctrine
so 2 unit
used to be Hornet (MRCA) and MIG (Intercepter)
then MKM (MRCA) and MIG with Hornet as (Bomber and Precision/Night Strike)
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post Jun 26 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 26 2024, 09:39 AM)
Serious kalau depending on personnel RMAF apa piihan?

Rafale?
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Pandangan jujur aku?
2015 dulu boleh la Rafale, Rhino, Gripen ni dah terlambat untuk TUDM beli ni semua melainkan sewa untuk Stop Gap.

The best is to move forward with 5th gen program
When I say program is the whole thing like what we do with A400 program. Not just an aset buyer and involved with the program

Tapi itu la, yang duk kat Putrajaya belum tentu share the same sentiment

QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Jun 26 2024, 11:04 AM)
FAB is only boms vs land

We talking about air vs air

Do we have a need to bomb land ?
Do malaysia intend to bomb others?
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What do you think MRCA does?
The sukhoi actually works well in the war tak kisah la Ukraine or Russia
The facts that how fast the NATO wanted to throw the falcons shows how badly the wanted the Air Superiority.
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post Jun 26 2024, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 26 2024, 11:21 AM)
Hmmm.. involved with Japanese next gen fighter program?

We have ties, we have alot of their factories here actually
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Dealings with Japanese will depending on their government policies.
I think the last time we dealt with them in military affairs is when they wanted to give us their P3 Orion and when the Malaysia Baharu shelves the plan they seems to distance their military relations to minimal.

Personally I would like to be involved with the Tempest of FCAS program, the Turks/Korean program is also a good program as alternative.



ps: Padan muka. Orion tak dapat, Blackhawk Brunei tak dapat, Paladin pun tak dapat, apa bodoh punya kerajaan waktu tu.


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post Jun 26 2024, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 26 2024, 12:14 PM)
this, but the issue is even with falcons the tide of war isnt gonna change much. it will provide another good platform for UA to strike and defend with, but nowhere in any significant numbers to stem the russian progress

not to mention the dwindling ground based AA defense which RU has been systematically eliminating over 2yrs. the falcons too will need a combination of ground AA to perform well if using them as AA platform
kecam jgn x kecam

frankly the better option now is to target the korean/japs/turks/chinese platform.

go USA or other NATO planes - generally on the pricier side
go RU - affordable, but sure kena sanctioned
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That is why I am looking forward to see the falcons in action
how 60 unit will change the tide of war!

QUOTE(yongku99 @ Jun 26 2024, 12:25 PM)
UK Tempest is 6th Gen right? are they looking for investor around Asia?
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Yes 6th gen
mcm mana dalam kepala aku Tempest ngan FCAS 5th gen hari ni
my apologies

Actually BAe very welcomes the users of its fleet into the program including us as the users of Hawk
but it's all will depending on the government if they wanted to invest into the project like Tempest, FCAS or GCAP

Actually last time when the Fat Amy was here in Kuantan I did joke with the air force officer and lockheed reps for RMAF having operating these birds even though Thai request just got decline.

the answer actually might surprise you!


 

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