Battle is the only way to test whether an old phased out fighter jet could toople ruski bastard top form plane

Generation 5 jets ke?

this SU-57 news macam to bait others to give them a better package je

nanti West hold back parts and microchip.

the Su-57 will make Potong parts issue look like a joke.

Better not buy.

Some more no country other than Russia has used it, we don't know its serviceability and handling. More Ragu Ragu is that why Russia has not used it in Ukraine war?

Not stealth enough to avoid Ukraine radar ? Even at beginning of war Ukraine used S-300 also sked to use Su-57.

Even their most regular customer IAF has not buy it and that says a lot.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Jun 26 2024, 09:39 AM

Serious kalau depending on personnel RMAF apa piihan?

Rafale?

KAI KF-21 Boramae should be 1st choice for our 5th gen fighter jet.

Do we even have pilots to fly them?

Since Kpop 5th gen will surely mature first than the Turkish Kaan, Kpop might getting 40 jet by 2028, not surprise it might be Malaysia choice by 2030s. Wonder if our old Dage UK 6th gen Tempest project looking for investor.

lmao i think you missed the part Sukhois and MiGs are generously pummeling ukraine via FABs with hundreds of sorties in a week

but hey, keep up with the western koolaid


aside to OP, unlikely any order to Russia will go through, MY have no means to counter US's CAATSA if they did want to buy Sukhois

FAB is only boms vs land

We talking about air vs air

Do we have a need to bomb land ?
Do malaysia intend to bomb others?

This post has been edited by Nihonmaru: Jun 26 2024, 11:04 AM

kek only thinking planes to counter planes

what are AA defenses for

Pandangan jujur aku?
2015 dulu boleh la Rafale, Rhino, Gripen ni dah terlambat untuk TUDM beli ni semua melainkan sewa untuk Stop Gap.

The best is to move forward with 5th gen program
When I say program is the whole thing like what we do with A400 program. Not just an aset buyer and involved with the program

Tapi itu la, yang duk kat Putrajaya belum tentu share the same sentiment

What do you think MRCA does?
The sukhoi actually works well in the war tak kisah la Ukraine or Russia
The facts that how fast the NATO wanted to throw the falcons shows how badly the wanted the Air Superiority.

Hmmm.. involved with Japanese next gen fighter program?

We have ties, we have alot of their factories here actually

ktard weapon expert speak like out there got better choice, but giving zero, yes ZERO alternate model lol
as usual mcm suruh PMX turun, suruh xx minister turun claim they can do it better.

Dealings with Japanese will depending on their government policies.
I think the last time we dealt with them in military affairs is when they wanted to give us their P3 Orion and when the Malaysia Baharu shelves the plan they seems to distance their military relations to minimal.

Personally I would like to be involved with the Tempest of FCAS program, the Turks/Korean program is also a good program as alternative.



ps: Padan muka. Orion tak dapat, Blackhawk Brunei tak dapat, Paladin pun tak dapat, apa bodoh punya kerajaan waktu tu.

this, but the issue is even with falcons the tide of war isnt gonna change much. it will provide another good platform for UA to strike and defend with, but nowhere in any significant numbers to stem the russian progress

not to mention the dwindling ground based AA defense which RU has been systematically eliminating over 2yrs. the falcons too will need a combination of ground AA to perform well if using them as AA platform

kecam jgn x kecam

frankly the better option now is to target the korean/japs/turks/chinese platform.

go USA or other NATO planes - generally on the pricier side
go RU - affordable, but sure kena sanctioned

UK Tempest is 6th Gen right? are they looking for investor around Asia?

The real question is who is the main con and sub cons

Is there a possibility that it is in amdk's interest that a "neutral but frenly" nation like msia wants to get something like su57 export? If they caatsa us, they themselves got to go a long route to spy on russia's front. If they close 1 eye and let msia gets hands on su57 in its fleet, they can even come here to "exercise" with these russian birds in flesh. Just like what they are doing with the su30mkm

This post has been edited by speedy3210: Jun 26 2024, 01:50 PM

not possible, remember its still business as usual. the more people reliant on US military industry, the more monies they earn. so they shouldnt even allow them to even buy it in first place

same goes for RU and other military manufacturers, they will be happy to quote as long can tie their buyer to them for decades earning money

dont think US will also be interested in export models as export models are kinda "crippled". Unless its those special collab/partnership where they did a transfer of tech and knowledge to produce something new (like RU and India and China). we unfortunately, arent there yet