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 Can anyone recommend a 360 movement dolly stand?

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TSharryleesbr
post Aug 6 2024, 05:41 PM

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I know man but take it as a lost lah.
I run the risk of not seeing it again or after a long long while if I sent it back.
Rather sell as besi buruk or mod it.

Looking out for a welder and iron rod company. I have a few ideas to try out.

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 6 2024, 01:31 PM)
Adoi...thats really unfortunate.....product with potential but still has a way to go.

I think u should take his offer n send it back to him...see what he can do about it...it isnt exactly small money too
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TSharryleesbr
post Aug 6 2024, 05:43 PM

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Need to find some time and then I will build it up myself.
Gotto find a local workshop that can cater for welding, cutting and drilling.

QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 6 2024, 04:55 PM)
that pivot pin looks like crap

I suggest you find a good stationary paddock, and then get someone to weld a wheel plate for you
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TSharryleesbr
post Aug 6 2024, 05:45 PM

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ideally, i am going for this design if i can make it work.

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post Aug 6 2024, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(harryleesbr @ Aug 6 2024, 05:45 PM)
ideally, i am going for this design if i can make it work.

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for this i would recommend a strong paddock stand as a start then adding on the dolly sections. like maybe remove the wheels and make that the pivot point.

ive been using THIS PADDOCK STAND for the past 6 years on my z900 and a few times on my versys 1000 and it works fine.

not sure if there are better n cheaper ones out there or not.
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post Aug 6 2024, 07:54 PM

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a bit off topic, how much strength do you need to lift a bike with paddock?
I have one and I can't seem to lift my bike even after watching multiple youtube vids about it.. push down the paddock handle and rear tyre wont even budge doh.gif
bike weight about 200 kg
TSharryleesbr
post Aug 6 2024, 10:17 PM

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It all depend on the handle length. If it is too short like my case, I practically have to stand on it, to lift the bike.

If you have a long level or handle then laws of leverage will assist you in the lift. Very little strength required.

If you cannot lift the bike yourself then stop, please get a spotter coz it is already super dangerous doing it yourself. 200kg is no joke when it topples over.



QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 6 2024, 07:54 PM)
a bit off topic, how much strength do you need to lift a bike with paddock?
I have one and I can't seem to lift my bike even after watching multiple youtube vids about it.. push down the paddock handle and rear tyre wont even budge  doh.gif
bike weight about 200 kg
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TSharryleesbr
post Aug 6 2024, 10:20 PM

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Thanks bro. I really like this idea. The underneath dolly is just a platform. Will study it.

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Aug 6 2024, 06:54 PM)
for this i would recommend a strong paddock stand as a start then adding on the dolly sections. like maybe remove the wheels and make that the pivot point.

ive been using THIS PADDOCK STAND for the past 6 years on my z900 and a few times on my versys 1000 and it works fine.

not sure if there are better n cheaper ones out there or not.
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alexei
post Aug 7 2024, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 6 2024, 07:54 PM)
a bit off topic, how much strength do you need to lift a bike with paddock?
I have one and I can't seem to lift my bike even after watching multiple youtube vids about it.. push down the paddock handle and rear tyre wont even budge  doh.gif
bike weight about 200 kg
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a few things with the paddock and leverage

the angle of the bobbin to the paddock touching the ground
- if the angle is too low, it is harder to jack the bike up
- if the angle is too high, it is easier to jack the bike, but the wheel might not be too high off the ground

and then the length of the pressing arm

a good paddock stand have 2 levels of lift - first level to make the bike easy to jack, and second level to lift the wheel higher off the ground, and also give it stability

a bad paddock will cause a bike to roll forward and drop off etc
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post Aug 7 2024, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(harryleesbr @ Aug 6 2024, 10:17 PM)
It all depend on the handle length. If it is too short like my case, I practically have to stand on it, to lift the bike.

If you have a long level or handle then laws of leverage will assist you in the lift. Very little strength required.

If you cannot lift the bike yourself then stop, please get a spotter coz it is already super dangerous doing it yourself. 200kg is no joke when it topples over.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 7 2024, 10:15 AM)
a few things with the paddock and leverage

the angle of the bobbin to the paddock touching the ground
- if the angle is too low, it is harder to jack the bike up
- if the angle is too high, it is easier to jack the bike, but the wheel might not be too high off the ground

and then the length of the pressing arm

a good paddock stand have 2 levels of lift - first level to make the bike easy to jack, and second level to lift the wheel higher off the ground, and also give it stability

a bad paddock will cause a bike to roll forward and drop off etc
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so technically I can add a long metal stick at the handle to increase leverage right? maybe I also need to find welder to do that
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post Aug 7 2024, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 7 2024, 03:43 PM)
so technically I can add a long metal stick at the handle to increase leverage right? maybe I also need to find welder to do that
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yes, but consider adding a removeable lever instead of a permanently welded one
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post Aug 9 2024, 11:01 AM

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Theoretically possible.
Before you do that please at least measure the angle and how long is needed.

Ensure your metal stick is strong of think enough e.g. the old GI water pipes not those flimsy steel bar you find around these days.

Once weld, there be no going back.

Maybe best to ask the welding shop for advice.

Here's is one that i ID. Did not have time to check him out yet,

Rajini Welding Works
https://g.co/kgs/GSJo8zr



QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 7 2024, 03:43 PM)
so technically I can add a long metal stick at the handle to increase leverage right? maybe I also need to find welder to do that
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