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 To sedan owners, will you choose sedan again?

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TSGodsweirdson
post Jun 22 2024, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 22 2024, 05:43 PM)
If my own choice, sedan over SUV 100%

if really personal choice, 2 door coupe
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i can sense your inkambing type R in the future
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post Jun 22 2024, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Godsweirdson @ Jun 22 2024, 06:40 PM)
I do disagree with your statement regarding people being cheap if they grow attached to their cars though, people are capable of loving and treating their cars similar to family.

Abit anecdotal, but my family just welcomed a new myvi into the household, I personally spent around 2 thousand to do coating, buy special car care stuff for it.  It is a waste of money objectively, and a true 'cheap' person would never go this far to keep it pristine as much as possible.

Even if cars are just mere tools to go from A to B, they are family to some, and many grow attached to it regardless of its material price.
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enuff said.
car similar to family.....


i never too attached to material thingy....

as long as you have earning power.
material thing come and goes. they are just a tool for me.

My family cannot be value the same as any material thing.
You really need to grow up/value up
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post Jun 22 2024, 08:13 PM

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Current 130mm low ground clearance fat heavy sedan never have any problem.

Previous old 170mm++ Corolla got bottom scrapped all the time.

Spring stiffness make huge contribution.

Best balance is cross-country wagon. Sadly it never gets popular

Not all SUVs are made equally. 90% fall into category 4 and 5.

1) Full diff lock AWD/4WD
2) Properly designed AWD for snow + mild off road
3) AWD for asphalt road performance
4) City SUV AWD just to fill paper spec
5) City FWD SUV

Those that actually need SUV capability won't torn between vehicle types. They know exactly what they need.

For most, it is just like fashion.

For me category 4 and 5 are big no. 2 is my sweet spot.

This post has been edited by constant_weight: Jun 22 2024, 08:13 PM
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post Jun 22 2024, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Godsweirdson @ Jun 22 2024, 06:58 PM)
i can sense your inkambing type R in the future
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My only car is a GT86

no modern type R is coupe
Only old DC5R or the older EG EK series?
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post Jun 23 2024, 04:45 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 22 2024, 07:21 PM)
enuff said.
car similar to family.....
i never too attached to material thingy....

as long as you have earning power.
material thing come and goes. they are just a tool for me.

My family cannot be value the same as any material thing.
You really need to grow up/value up
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Perhaps the proper word to use is ’proud’. You know, some owners and tenants can be house proud … they take care of their house, keep it clean, take care of the house’s belongings etc.

Similarly some owners can be car proud. They take pride in the upkeep of their car, both externally and mechanically.
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post Jun 23 2024, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jun 22 2024, 08:13 PM)
Current 130mm low ground clearance fat heavy sedan never have any problem.

Previous old 170mm++ Corolla got bottom scrapped all the time.

Spring stiffness make huge contribution.

Best balance is cross-country wagon. Sadly it never gets popular

Not all SUVs are made equally. 90% fall into category 4 and 5.

1) Full diff lock AWD/4WD
2) Properly designed AWD for snow + mild off road
3) AWD for asphalt road performance
4) City SUV AWD just to fill paper spec
5) City FWD SUV

Those that actually need SUV capability won't torn between vehicle types. They know exactly what they need.

For most, it is just like fashion.

For me category 4 and 5 are big no. 2 is my sweet spot.
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This explains a lot bro…

My 992 GTS only has 75mm ground clearance. I survive because of the optionally appointed front axle lifter which adds 40mm extra to try to prevent front lip scrape…
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post Jun 23 2024, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 23 2024, 04:45 AM)
Perhaps the proper word to use is ’proud’. You know, some owners and tenants can be house proud … they take care of their house, keep it clean, take care of the house’s belongings etc.

Similarly some owners can be car proud. They take pride in the upkeep of their car, both externally and mechanically.
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cleanliness i think is good
but emotional attached to tools? meaningless.

u decorate a gold ring with diamond. because diamond are way higher value.

when a human person decorate himself with a car or house
u know what his worth.


for starter, a good personality is a good decoration.

This post has been edited by ifourtos: Jun 23 2024, 09:28 AM
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post Jun 23 2024, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 23 2024, 09:27 AM)
cleanliness i think is good
but emotional attached to  tools? meaningless.

u decorate a gold ring with diamond. because diamond are way higher value.

when a human person decorate himself with a car or house
u know what his worth.
for starter, a good personality is a good decoration.
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No one denies what you say bro.
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post Jun 23 2024, 11:27 AM

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all my sedans are lowered
no issue, scrape then scrape, so be it
next time avoid that problmatic place

its not sedan only specific, coupe wheelbase not very far from sedan depending on era of vehicle.

if anything my lowered mpv scrape even more.

owned over 10 cars, never once in my list of it will scrape lol
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post Jun 23 2024, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 23 2024, 10:35 AM)
No one denies what you say bro.
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post Jun 23 2024, 04:55 PM

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di rumah ada CX5 2015, Myvi 2022, Saga 2024

kalau awak ada 50K recommend try Mazda 3/6 Sedan 2014+.

This post has been edited by zroter: Jul 3 2024, 09:16 AM
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post Jun 23 2024, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 23 2024, 04:48 AM)
This explains a lot bro…

My 992 GTS only has 75mm ground clearance. I survive because of the optionally appointed front axle lifter which adds 40mm extra to try to prevent front lip scrape…
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Nah, those soft suspension has different problem.

They don't have front lip splitter, but rather after front wheel went over the big bump/pothole, the car sunk so much that the sub-frame/skirt/chassis got scrapped. It is worse with loaded passengers.

This post has been edited by constant_weight: Jun 23 2024, 07:24 PM
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post Jun 24 2024, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 21 2024, 05:43 PM)
if you can feel hurt because a piece of metal being scratch.
You are just too cheap.

Car is disposable.
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So you change car every year and give the old ones away to charity? Or you also never bother changing engine oil, since it is disposable.

Just because you have money doesn't mean you can waste it.

For me, I service my car religiously as according to the car manual. But I hardly ever wash my car because it is serving me, not the other way around. Beside, the rain will wash my car


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post Jun 24 2024, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 24 2024, 07:05 AM)
So you change car every year and give the old ones away to charity? Or you also never bother changing engine oil, since it is disposable.

Just because you have money doesn't mean you can waste it.

For me, I service my car religiously as according to the car manual. But I hardly ever wash my car because it is serving me, not the other way around. Beside, the rain will wash my car
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proper maintenance is the right way to use any tools

emotional attached to piece of metal is not right.
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post Jun 24 2024, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 24 2024, 03:42 AM)
proper maintenance is the right way to use any tools

emotional attached to piece of metal is not right.
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Yes. Some people are paranoid when it come to servicing. They can debate endlessly about what type of oil to use etc.

In my experience, just follow what the car manual says about type and viscosity of oil to use, having engine oil related problem is as rare as being strike by lightning




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post Jun 24 2024, 11:24 AM

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not sedan anymore.. going gor big wagon or mpv.. ez to sumbat big n long things
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post Jun 24 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(zroter @ Jun 23 2024, 05:55 PM)
di rumah ada CX5 2015, Myvi 2022, Saga 2024

keselesaan? CX5
keseronokan? Saga

SUV tak boleh lawan Sedan punya seronok.
kalau awak ada 50K pi beli Saga atau Used Mazda 3/6 Sedan 2014+.
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You should opt test drive for different rides, for me my Subaru Xv from 2015 until now still give me the best fun ride especially driving around hill, windy roads area and some soft off-roading. People who test driven my Xv over the years also feedback it is very sedan like driving and did not body roll a lot, FYI my Xv most still in original setup, only add on STI struct bar in front and others still original including suspension and tire size.

I have driven from Wira 1.8 (Auto), Corolla 4AGE 20V (6-Speed manual) & even my dads E90 320d even tho straight, highway speed is great, but you will feel bored after a while with just chasing higher speed, soon you will notice about proper control/handling when driving thru different road conditions. After years of driving sedan, jump to crossover and never turn back. Still in my list i got some soft spot for proper wagon, maybe Subaru Levorg or Audi A6 Avant in future if still got a lot of cash for extra.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jun 24 2024, 01:38 PM
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post Jun 24 2024, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jun 24 2024, 06:35 AM)
You should opt test drive for different rides, for me my Subaru Xv from 2015 until now still give me the best fun ride especially driving around hill, windy roads area and some soft off-roading. People who test driven my Xv over the years also feedback it is very sedan like driving and did not body roll a lot, FYI my Xv most still in original setup, only add on STI struct bar in front and others still original including suspension and tire size.   

I have driven from Wira 1.8 (Auto), Corolla 4AGE 20V (6-Speed manual) & even my dads E90 320d even tho straight, highway speed is great, but you will feel bored after a while with just chasing higher speed, soon you will notice about proper control/handling when driving thru different road conditions. After years of driving sedan, jump to crossover and never turn back. Still in my list i got some soft spot for proper wagon, maybe Subaru Levorg or Audi A6 Avant in future if still got a lot of cash for extra.
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How about Forrester?

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post Jun 24 2024, 02:29 PM

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10/10 will buy a sedan again.
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post Jun 24 2024, 02:37 PM

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offer me Subaru sedan, ofcos i choose this.

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