Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 change pickups, or buy new guitar?

views
     
sean392
post Nov 2 2007, 09:57 AM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Nov 2 2007, 09:36 AM)
which one? A or B?

some ppl say not good to fit EMGs into SX guitars..izit a waste?
cos got one salesman said.. "aiya if even if u put SD or EMGs, ppl still see the headstock 'SX'...also don realy respect la"
n im not very pro in guitar also.. i just started playing for 2 weeks after stopping for 1 n half years.
now im tryin to learn some techniques by myself.. i stil dunno much of alternate picking, tapping..
usually for metal sound (81/85 combo) is for fast songs izit?
*
B

Respect is gained by the music you made.
But you should practice and improve more before you move to upgrade your guitar.
If you have the cash to spring, by all means go ahead.

This post has been edited by sean392: Nov 2 2007, 09:57 AM
sean392
post Nov 2 2007, 05:34 PM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(Rossie @ Nov 2 2007, 10:04 AM)
It's A.

The battery is wired to the jack, how can you fit it in the switch area?

If you do upgrade to a new guitar, you can always fit your pickups to your new one, and install the old one with the original pickups and sell it off.
*
eh?
LOL i mixed up A and B

sorry sorry my bad
I swear to god I saw B as the tone pots slot lol


QUOTE(skindred @ Nov 2 2007, 11:49 AM)
hanhanhan : What is your budget right now? RM750?

If I were you I wouldn't waste RM750 for the pickups to place it in the SX guitar.. Just my honest opinion.

But if you're really on a budget right now, yeah, why not? At least ur SX will sound slightly better.. But the body will still affect the overall sound.

Later when you buy a better guitar, maybe a Mahogany guitar, when you swap the pups over to that better guitar, you'll look back and laugh. smile.gif
*
Hmm? Most Epiphone Les Pauls use South African mahongany where else SX uses Cuban Mahogany, which is closer to Honduran Mahogany in density and tonally compared to South African.
Sure the qc on SX may not be as tight as Korean made Epiphones, but then again, aren't most things made in China ?
Just for comparison, I myself own an Epiphone Les Paul, and I have tried SX. Other than the neck dimensions on the SX (which is not to my taste), I haven't found anything better on the Epiphone compared to the SX LP which I happened to try.

This post has been edited by sean392: Nov 2 2007, 05:42 PM
sean392
post Nov 2 2007, 06:29 PM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Nov 2 2007, 06:17 PM)
dont worry too much about brands. i use epiphone LP MIK and still i do get ppl laughing and saying all sort of things. yea i did change the pickups of that to a burstbucker pro but still...if u r worried of ppl talking about the brand of guitar u're using, its never gona end unless u own a custom PRS or supreme Gibson. i'm quite happy with my guitar as its setup nice, sounds good and plays nice.

my vote.... load your SX with those brutal EMGs.
*
Nah, em lespauls sound better with low output pickups! active pickups suck!
lol jkjk XD
sean392
post Nov 2 2007, 08:56 PM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 2 2007, 07:30 PM)
from what i know, only MIJ epiphone's use african mahogany.
MIK / MIC use whatever mahogany they can get from like philipines / indonesia / china.
*
True, but I meant the species. I don't remember species names, freaking siao meh lol
**based on the grains la, the newer MIC and post 2005 i've seen the grains look alot like sapele


This post has been edited by sean392: Nov 2 2007, 08:58 PM
sean392
post Nov 3 2007, 12:20 AM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Nov 2 2007, 09:53 PM)
sell to who la..
ppl would rather buy a new sx for 400-500+
*
People like me.
If the neck dimensions suit my taste, and i know the woods as well as the construction is fine, i'd take it.


sean392
post Nov 3 2007, 02:19 AM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Nov 3 2007, 12:33 AM)
oh and for amps right.. is LINE 6 Spider 3 good?
its selling for 400 only i think.
*
There are better choices, but they cost slightly more I guess. Its pretty hard to get good tones out of the Spider3 unless you spend hours on it. I'm no fan of it so I can't say much other than recommending you away from it.



QUOTE(liew90kw @ Nov 3 2007, 01:33 AM)
I TOTALLY agree. The 5150 III is such a sexy amp. You can see it on EVH's guitars site.

Lol jk la, the pickups do matter, but as some other people(and me) have been saying, no matter what you do to the pickups, an SX is still an SX.
*
And of what significance branding does to a guitars playability and tone? Sure, Gibson, PRS, ESP, Fender are "branded" because they produce stellar guitars, sure but for how much? You pay for what you get. Those brands use premium grade wood with strict quality control. If you're gonna recommend him to get a "better" guitar, you're probably going to tell a student who isn't making much even with part time jobs to get a probably 3000MYR and above guitar.

First thing first, are you skilled enough to own a "better" guitar, if your fingers can't keep up with your guitar, it doesn't matter if its a relic '59 Les Paul into a 87 JCM800 with a boat load of pedals, you're still gonna sound bad.

If you think installing pickups into an SX or a cheap guitar is not going to affect tone much, rest assured, many can prove you wrong easily. Cheap guitars come with poorly made pickups, meaning they either have too much or too little output, with poor to no wax potting and lousy note definition. How is that changing to better pickups will not change by a large margin?

Sure, body construction is also important for sustain, but don't forget even more expensive "budget" brands like Epiphone, LTD and etc don't utilize single piece bodies. Most of them use multiple pieces and glue them together to get a 2/3-piece body. So if thats the case, doesn't that beat the argument of "body construction?".

Woods are a different story, yes, I do agree, lower priced guitars tend to use wrong woods or very low grade woods. Thats why you test the guitar before buying. Also, doing some research before going out to spring your hard earned cash will also do you good. Its quite irrational not at least read up a little on details on something you're planning to spend a lot on.

I hate to, but I have to disagree with your statement. I do not think brand plays a very heavy role on what works.
sean392
post Nov 3 2007, 01:55 PM

Hirano Aya-Tard
*******
Senior Member
6,339 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 3 2007, 10:56 AM)
FLAME ON tongue.gif

dude this argument has gone on since before elvis presley came along.
thats why gibson in the 50s came along to offer quality stylish instruments to the mass public tongue.gif

and there is no rule that says you must reach a certain skill to own a certain guitar, this is not like bloody DOTA or whatever where u must level up to earn it.
so wat? must reach level666 godmode to earn a '59 LP?
oh man, in that case the guys in avenged sevenfold or even MCR have already reached very close to that level since they obviously arent using SX...damn what is the world coming to tongue.gif

yes, it may be irritating to you when someone who can only play MCR owns a AAAAA Flame top Gibson LP Custom Shop '57 VOS reissue with 100yr old Brazilian Rosewood fretboard...but then its their money.

ok, this post may get too long...so at the risk of reading this for longer than it takes for an avenged sevenfold guitar solo...i'll stop here for now tongue.gif
*
I know, but I'm talking about this case. Which he's just a student. So its not feasible aight?

QUOTE(liew90kw @ Nov 3 2007, 10:13 AM)
@sean ==> I'm not merely talking about the branding. It's true that testing a guitar before buying it is vital, but I feel the most important thing is a "connection", if you will, between the instrument and the owner. For example, when I bought my warlock, I was looking through all the other guitars at the store. All of them sounded great, but I didn't feel that "connection". They made an awesome sound, but that was about it.
Then I saw my warlock in a corner, beat up as it was, tried it, and bought it immediately. Haven't looked back since.
But it's always a matter of personal preference. I for one never really liked the tone of SX stuff. So to me, of course I would say change the guitar.

But honestly, man, active on a SX? Unless you're actively gigging I feel you should just stick with the stock pickups on the SX.  han3, you already said you were gonna work part time and save up money right? Just do that, but save the money for a new guitar, just IMHO. Since you're still brushing off the dust and learning new tricks and licks, save up, and get a wicked new guitar when you get really good, and do yourself justice.

.....and I need to start making shorter posts.
*
Actives sounds similar in most guitars that is made out of the same woods. Its actives, power > tone. At least thats how I hear active pickups. I'm not a huge fan of active pickups cause to me they sound harsh and tonally dull, but thats just me.

This post has been edited by sean392: Nov 3 2007, 01:57 PM

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0833sec    0.74    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 20th December 2025 - 09:29 PM