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Sean77
post Jun 18 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 18 2024, 02:18 PM)
you can only move to first party only if the insurance company willing to take. which is virtually none for old cheap value car..
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Old car is defined as how many yrs? my car in few mths is 20yrs old already, then cannot buy 1 st party anymore?
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post Jun 18 2024, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(daisuke @ Jun 18 2024, 11:34 AM)
yes, can, my >20yo waja can still get 1st party, but mine is etiqa, etiqa will value the car at 7k for it to be elligible for 1st party though

but i opt for 3rd party, >20yo car, if spoil buang d....what for 1st party
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Etiqa 3rd party u buy online or need call them?

But if 7k, the premium maybe Rm200 only, compare ti 3rd party, 90?
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post Jun 18 2024, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jun 18 2024, 11:59 AM)
difference by rm500 for 3rd party and 1st because loss of NCD
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So ur choice is save RM500 and take the risk if accident again u have to ownself settle ur own car damage.

Or pay extra RM500 and PASS THE RISK to insurer to cover ur ass.


That is the purpose of insurance. All about RISK appetite.

Ppl cant decide for u "worth or not".



Btw what happen why 0 NCD

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Jun 18 2024, 03:03 PM
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post Jun 18 2024, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Jun 18 2024, 02:43 PM)
Old car is defined as how many yrs? my car in few mths is 20yrs old already, then cannot buy 1 st party anymore?
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not sure, most likely >20 years old car and value is less than rm10k (not sure if it is both or just one of the criteria).

if you already under 1st party policy, you can do renewal still.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jun 18 2024, 03:10 PM
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post Jun 18 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Jun 18 2024, 11:51 AM)
If the insurer accepts, then you should think about several things.

1. Need for this particular vehicle.
- If you are highly dependent on this vehicle (no other vehicle around); OR
- Sentimental value (determined to preserve the vehicle regardless)

AND

- You (As third party do not take into account of all authorized drivers) drive in high risk mode i.e. frequent accidents in the past

Then yes you should cancel your current, and go for the first.
2. The value of the vehicle.
- If your insured value is lower than or equal to cash payment fixes, then chances are, you are betting on the NCD upon subsequent renewals to be more value for money.
- But until then, if your condition is as above bolded part, then you should go for it.

Either way, since you are concerned about the value, I would presume that you are conscious about the costs and want to have a maximum protection possible.

Therefore, unless you are not confident at all of your own driving skills / you drive recklessly, then you should stick with the third party until subsequent renewal.

Edit: Like above, you need to review the insurer history for insuring older car models, as the claims for parts maybe a hassle.
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boleh tak, jgn tulis cam chatgpt? susah nak paham.


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post Jun 18 2024, 03:24 PM

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for >20 years old very subject to insurance vendor ..some makan some very hard

so ..when your car close to 20 ..dont simply switch vendor
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post Jun 18 2024, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jun 18 2024, 03:24 PM)
for >20 years old very subject to insurance vendor ..some makan some very hard

so ..when your car close to 20 ..dont simply switch vendor
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U can always try to switch, it wont "expire" ur current policy and also wont cause u unable to renew with same insurer coz u tried to switch.

Insurer wont even know u get a quotation from different company.
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post Jun 18 2024, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(periuknasi @ Jun 18 2024, 03:22 PM)
boleh tak, jgn tulis cam chatgpt? susah nak paham.
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periuknasi macam mana mau faham oh? brows.gif

jokes aside, i figured structure abit maybe more easy to arrange sequence of importance?

bukan meh?
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post Jun 18 2024, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jun 18 2024, 03:02 PM)
So ur choice is save RM500 and take the risk if accident again u have to ownself settle ur own car damage.

Or pay extra RM500 and PASS THE RISK to insurer to cover ur ass.
That is the purpose of insurance. All about RISK appetite.

Ppl cant decide for u "worth or not".
Btw what happen why 0 NCD
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I seldom use the car so I just want to use 3rd party 1st since my ncd now is 0 but will switch to 1st party for the subsequent year, but will they accept the switching, kurnia say they can't guarantee automatically.
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post Jun 18 2024, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jun 18 2024, 04:10 PM)
I seldom use the car so I just want to use 3rd party 1st since my ncd now is 0 but will switch to 1st party for the subsequent year, but will they accept the switching, kurnia say they can't guarantee automatically.
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Easiest way is use agent when u want to change back to 1st party, if ownself renew not accepted.

However, u most probably will kena extra loading fee and excess fee too.

Is ur current policy got loading and excess?
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post Jun 18 2024, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Jun 18 2024, 04:07 PM)
periuknasi macam mana mau faham oh? brows.gif

jokes aside, i figured structure abit maybe more easy to arrange sequence of importance?

bukan meh?
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struktur baik. tapi berbungabunga ros anggerik.
Hi Siri, sila ringkaskan
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post Jun 18 2024, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(periuknasi @ Jun 18 2024, 06:48 PM)
struktur baik. tapi berbungabunga ros anggerik.
Hi Siri, sila ringkaskan
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Ohh camtu, okay faham, let me try again

OWN DRIVE
Decide if TS mesti ada the car > If yes > Drive dangerous?
Decide if TS mesti ada the car > If no > Third party

Drive dangerous? > Yes > First party
Drive dangerous? > No > Third party


OTHER DRIVER
Decide if TS ada driver lain pakai kereta > If yes > Decide if TS mesti ada the car > If yes > Drive dangerous? > Yes > First party
Decide if TS ada driver lain pakai kereta > If yes > Decide if TS mesti ada the car > If no > tak kisah cuz other driver cannot claim > Third party
Decide if TS ada driver lain pakai kereta > If no > Decide if TS mesti ada the car > If yes > Drive dangerous? > Yes > First party


Okay with hassle masa claim?
Okay with hassle masa claim ? If yes > First party
Okay with hassle masa claim ? If no > Give up car > Third party


liddis better or not? soli malas nak buat chart

This post has been edited by sadukarzz: Jun 18 2024, 07:08 PM
daisuke
post Jun 19 2024, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Jun 18 2024, 02:50 PM)
Etiqa 3rd party u buy online or need call them?

But if 7k, the premium maybe Rm200 only, compare ti 3rd party, 90?
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i went to their office to renew, 1st party is almost 300, if 3rd party 100++
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post Jun 19 2024, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Jun 18 2024, 02:08 PM)
Whats the price difference between your waja 1st vs 3 rd party?
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1st party almost 300, 1st party is a lil more than 100
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post Jun 19 2024, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(daisuke @ Jun 19 2024, 09:13 AM)
1st party almost 300, 1st party is a lil more than 100
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mine honda idsi 20 years, 1st party rm800++, 3rd 300++, i took 1st party.
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post Jun 19 2024, 04:16 PM

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