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post Nov 23 2025, 12:08 PM

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Believe in Slot.


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post Nov 23 2025, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Nov 23 2025, 11:33 AM)
I admire your passion bro...
After more than 15matches, he still trying... 😅
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Not really. Sacking manager is not the option always. It is only the option to satisfy rage fans and then insya-allah next manager come in and perform miracle.

Lets say, we sack slot now, so who u suggest we should hire? That is better than him and available?

If this is slot 1st season, then i might be on 50-50 to sack slot. But he won the title in his first season, so he should be given time to mould his team. To be honest, i dont buy shits like he use klopp things to win. If thing is so simple by using other ppl team to win title, why pep cant continue winning every season with his team? Why moyes cant wint with fergie team and etc?
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post Nov 23 2025, 12:18 PM

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Every manager should have more than 1 formation or tactic. Every manager also tends to respond to different play styles - "if this then that". Slot on the other hand has only 1 formation and 1 tactic - 4-2-3-1 high press, narrow, transformers formation (aka "fluid positioning") or what might call the "I copy Pepe's" tactic.

Still don't understand why game after game, opposing managers and players keep pointing out right side weakness, Salah not defending, easy to drag Grav out of central positions, Slot still insist there is no problem on the right, Salah plays. If Slot says will play Isak to form, why not Chiesa especially when Salah is not performing...I really feel for Chiesa. Feel Slot's man management really bad in this area.

Problem with sacking Slot is the lack of replacement that can handle the egos of VVD and Salah. Choosing a manager that is doing well but lacks the experience managing big egos in a club like Liverpool is similar to hiring Brendan Rodgers and Roy Hodgson. You need crazy eyes, shoe throwing, track record to manage egos. Or you do what teams used to do with Ronaldo - not worth the trouble, ship him out.

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farisq
post Nov 23 2025, 01:21 PM

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I search about ranieri to confirm my memory. Yup he was sacked 9 months after winning epl
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post Nov 23 2025, 01:36 PM

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What did Slot change from last season?
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post Nov 23 2025, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Nov 23 2025, 01:36 PM)
What did Slot change from last season?
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post Nov 23 2025, 10:45 PM

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slot plz fix your tactic
so missed our deadly counter attack.


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post Nov 24 2025, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Nov 23 2025, 01:21 PM)
I search about ranieri to confirm my memory. Yup he was sacked 9 months after winning epl
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Yup, everyone is asking for his sack. So where is Leicester now? rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 24 2025, 01:01 AM

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Its either Graham Potter or Thomas Frank. I prefer Englishmen

Despite Ange Postecoglou were available on market

Who you guys prefer?
sahathai
post Nov 24 2025, 01:41 AM

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even Sloth ball is not working, I think there's no chance Liverpool gonna spend money to pay compensation to Slot and his staff this season. especially after they won the league last season.
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post Nov 24 2025, 07:29 AM

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Ok since he owned up his responsibilities, he should be given the benefit to fix this in the next 10 league games. Don't need to think about cup games now. Just focus on league. Hopefully 6 defeats in 7 does not continue to become 12 defeats in 14.
He needs to fix it on the training ground, fix his tactics, fix the mentality of the players, fix his incompetent staff if any. Just cannot continue like this.
It's already almost conclusive Arsenal will win the league. And good job to them and Arteta.

I hope to see Isak and Wirtz at least shining for the second half of season. If they don't, then drop them to the bench. Also see Chiesa and Endo given chances. If you are already so bad there really is no logic not to introduce fringe players who are eager to impress.
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:53 AM

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Formation wise, the biggest difference is 4-2-3-1 relies on a target man (the 1) - hence Isak purchase. The 3 midfielders take up positions around the target man (out left, out right, out middle).

In the Klopp (or more traditional 4-3-3), there is no single target man with the front 3. Whoever in the right position scores, and the attack shifts left or right based on momentum.

In a 4-2-3-1, the forward line is less compact. The 3 midfielders take up wider positions to support the target man (similar to how Man City plays Haaland). Get the ball to the 9 who is responsible for scoring. Haaland is 1.95m tall, Isak is 1.92m, Ekiteke is 1.9m. Firmino, Salah and Mane height no more than 1.81m.

A more traditional 4-3-3 or Klopp era 4-3-3 has a more compact forward line (e.g., Mane/Firmino/Salah). Each of the 3 forwards are target man depending on the situation. Get the ball to any of the forward 3 best positioned to score. Hence why Firmino as false 9 works.

Tactically, Liverpool no longer counter press (e.g., apply pressure after losing possession) - something Pep's Man City struggled against. When out of possession, Liverpool also moved to pressing the 2nd ball instead of applying pressure all the time (i.e., Liverpool high press means playing a high line not applying pressure) - why players tend to stand-off rather than tackle or press, which ends up looking like lacking intensity. Notice Slot rarely comments about intensity these days.

Slot also emphasizes possession and playing out the back, patience with the ball, finding that key pass. Klopp is constant pressing, quick transitions, direct balls. Hence the sideways, back-pass, slow moving under Slot, the direct, long balls, quick transition under Klopp.

Basically, Slot ball is a copy of Guardiola's tactics, which ironically, Guardiola himself admitted needs to be changed due to how the game has changed (i.e. hiring Pep Ljinders).

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post Nov 24 2025, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(zizoo9876 @ Nov 24 2025, 08:53 AM)
Tactically, Liverpool no longer counter press (e.g., apply pressure after losing possession) - something Pep's Man City struggled against. When out of possession, Liverpool also moved to pressing the 2nd ball instead of applying pressure all the time (i.e., Liverpool high press means playing a high line not applying pressure) - why players tend to stand-off rather than tackle or press, which ends up looking like lacking intensity. Notice Slot rarely comments about intensity these days.

Slot also emphasizes possession and playing out the back, patience with the ball, finding that key pass. Klopp is constant pressing, quick transitions, direct balls. Hence the sideways, back-pass, slow moving under Slot, the direct, long balls, quick transition under Klopp.

Basically, Slot ball is a copy of Guardiola's tactics, which ironically, Guardiola himself admitted needs to be changed due to how the game has changed (i.e. hiring Pep Ljinders).
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This bold part. That was also the reason why MC struggled so bad last season. This season they take the direct approach and fetching good result.
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post Nov 24 2025, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(zizoo9876 @ Nov 24 2025, 08:53 AM)
Formation wise, the biggest difference is 4-2-3-1 relies on a target man (the 1) - hence Isak purchase. The 3 midfielders take up positions around the target man (out left, out right, out middle).

In the Klopp (or more traditional 4-3-3), there is no single target man with the front 3. Whoever in the right position scores, and the attack shifts left or right based on momentum.

In a 4-2-3-1, the forward line is less compact. The 3 midfielders take up wider positions to support the target man (similar to how Man City plays Haaland).  Get the ball to the 9 who is responsible for scoring. Haaland is 1.95m tall, Isak is 1.92m, Ekiteke is 1.9m. Firmino, Salah and Mane height no more than 1.81m.

A more traditional 4-3-3 or Klopp era 4-3-3 has a more compact forward line (e.g., Mane/Firmino/Salah). Each of the 3 forwards are target man depending on the situation. Get the ball to any of the forward 3 best positioned to score. Hence why Firmino as false 9  works.

Tactically, Liverpool no longer counter press (e.g., apply pressure after losing possession) - something Pep's Man City struggled against. When out of possession, Liverpool also moved to pressing the 2nd ball instead of applying pressure all the time (i.e., Liverpool high press means playing a high line not applying pressure) - why players tend to stand-off rather than tackle or press, which ends up looking like lacking intensity. Notice Slot rarely comments about intensity these days.

Slot also emphasizes possession and playing out the back, patience with the ball, finding that key pass. Klopp is constant pressing, quick transitions, direct balls. Hence the sideways, back-pass, slow moving under Slot, the direct, long balls, quick transition under Klopp.

Basically, Slot ball is a copy of Guardiola's tactics, which ironically, Guardiola himself admitted needs to be changed due to how the game has changed (i.e. hiring Pep Ljinders).
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totally agreed

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ry8128
post Nov 25 2025, 09:00 AM

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Just a reminder guys, we are in 12tn now sweat.gif
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post Nov 25 2025, 09:20 AM

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Ok la, this weekend another comical club also lost at home playing against 10 men.
City also lost.
My expectations is this low now, not sure what to expect from upcoming games. We have a run of winnable games but ironically lost arguably the most winnable one already haha
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post Nov 25 2025, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(torres09 @ Nov 25 2025, 09:20 AM)
Ok la, this weekend another comical club also lost at home playing against 10 men.
City also lost.
My expectations is this low now, not sure what to expect from upcoming games. We have a run of winnable games but ironically lost arguably the most winnable one already haha
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both Amorim & Slot competing to become Lord of the Frauds laugh.gif
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post Yesterday, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Nov 25 2025, 10:21 PM)
both Amorim & Slot competing to become Lord of the Frauds laugh.gif
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I would not call Slot a fraud. He can't be a fraud when he won the PL, can say with Klopp's players but imo tactically he was very good when managing in-game changes and substitutions.

The difference this season is teams have already found out the way to play the champions, and we have not changed. With so many new players and departures the situation is more difficult.

Chemistry and morale of the team is also questionable. Kerkez Frimpong Mama Ekitike Leoni are essentials given the departures. But Wirtz and Isak for a combined 230m pounds? Not sure.

Still, the manager needs to sort this out. At the end of Feb/March if we are languishing below 10th position then it will be time to really think about getting someone else in the summer. I believe many managers will be keen to work with the squad that we have.
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so everyone ready for vvd - gomez partnership tonight? 😈
tho as much as gomez is so loved... nowadays konate has been shit...
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so if arsenal win the EPL this season....we can say they win it becoz all others underperform is it? same as how we win it last season they claim becoz everyone else is underperform? HAHA....

The EPL is for them to lose it this season as every1 not consistent....just hope slot can find solution after Christmas.....

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