tak ape just follow how last time thanos plotek potong ...

already up from 25% tariff to 100% , if still too cheap then up another 200% lor

Same fears when jap imports came. Repeat again.

which part is knock-off?

Do like what they did to Huawei. Ban BYD under guise of national security. Ask all their compatriots don't sell parts and services to BYD.

Lastly, link BYD to the CCP. Mission accomplished!

Chyna tokey eat rice & tofu, that's why can sell EV for cheap.

Ang Moh tokey need to eat buffet , that's why sell expensive.

Wait....what??? What brain damage did y'all EV try hards or CCP asswipe experienced?

EU blocking and US hiking EV import tariff so CCP can't shit on the market with cheap inferior coffin box. Empirical data shows PHEV is the future and ICE still outselling any segment.

What kind of fear are you talking about?

Plot of black ops 2 becoming a reality

Even with tariff, the price will still be more competitive that other brands. EU can’t overdo their tariffs as it will affect their cars sold in China. That’s why BMW and Volkswagen are warning EU on tariffs on China EV.

As for US, they can always use the Huawei tactics against China EV but it’s their consumers who will have less choice. What they are worried is their export markets. They are already being killed by Japanese and Korean cars, now they have to contend with China cars too. It’s a shakeup of world car market and the biggest affected are actually Japanese cars as they are in similar markets with China cars.

Inb4 axle patah

Wait until the car drive own-self control by CCP hacker.

"What can we do?"
"We ban 9 them!"

how is this a knock off?

afraid of east capitalism

You speak as if EU and US guarantee will succumbed to China carmakers takeover. Unless you're living under a rock and don't understand the geopolitical tension going on. Ukraine war already showed they want to de-risk over reliance of a single country to check and balance their economy.

Furthermore you are talking companies that have no track records in manufacturing cars. What gives a handphone maker can make better car than Mazda? So far only BYD made it out of dozens of other China carmakers. You do know that BYD only rank #10 in global car sales.

End of the day, the market and consumer will determine the outcome. US and EU just won't bite the dangling carrot put out by CCP. They know too well how China will fuck-up the market in the long run. Look steel, solar panel, lithium battery, and God knows what other industries runs to the ground because CCP to decide to dump on the market to gain market share. They will priced out high quality with high cost while the rest fight for scrap to compete on low cost.

So you want to drive a coffin wheel box?

AMDK: Celaka bolehland.. Plotek plotek...

AMDK: US good plotek... Celaka China for selling cheap EV...


Lol...

Byd is a big company mah, even produce battery for other brand, mana ada knock off?

Decoupl, ban and cut all ties hehehe

Let the world burn

Will they be more shaking if we export out Axia Rahmah there?

Rm22k/ 4.6k USD for a car with 400km range, the Seagull only gets 250km real world range at best

This post has been edited by Boy96: May 14 2024, 04:38 PM

which part is knock-off?

skit2 dah bola kecut... tak guna

If black market can fake eggs and rice, why not EV car parts ?

If can't fight them, tax them.

If there’s no fear, then why this type of news and reports comes out? The news are not from China. Geopolitics and decoupling! We are hearing this since Covid but how much de-risk are we seeing today? You think it’s easy to build a new supply chain from scratch? Most of the so called de-risk still depends on China in some forms. Do you think the MNCs going to abandon China market? Do you think car manufacturers like BMW, Volkswagen, Tesla, etc. going to leave China market?

What China managed to do is produce things much more cost effectively. They can make quality things much more cheaper than US and EU. Nobody today say China’s lithium batteries, solar panels, etc. low quality. The fact is consumers all around the world will vote with their wallets. If China cars are coffin wheel box, there’s nothing to be scared, right? They won’t compete at all. So why all the hoo haa?

BYD is in the market how many years? In such a short period of time, they are in top 10 selling only EVs. The only other car manufacturers that managed to do it is Tesla. BYD came later than Tesla and to achieve top 10 is not impressive? Even Tesla is using BYDs battery and that’s not an achievement?

The handphone maker might not be able to make a car as good as Mazda today but give it 5 years and let’s see. BYD already done it. You think other China car manufacturers won’t make it in the future especially after they consolidate into a few companies?

Coffin wheel box! That’s similar like how people describe Japanese cars in the 60s and 70s. Where are the Japanese today? Korean cars in the 80s are similarly called too but where is Hyundai and Kia today in global markets?

You don’t want to drive coffin wheel box, drive a Volvo lah but Volvo owned by who today? LOL!

This post has been edited by 30624770: May 14 2024, 06:01 PM

Did Warren Buffet knew this in advance...did he sell his shares?

Hai O sudah maju. Dulu jual ubat, sekarang bikin EV.

Last time was Japan.

Not Warren, it was Charlie's idea.

me still wondering how on earth US & EU can decouple from China completely?

When a big country like China that can product a lot of things worldwide and with good quality comparable to same item that US or EU produce but with half the price and faster than them. Nobody can just shut the door and trade among themselves, at least not in current world.

Ah yes the usual Shrodinger China argument. China being both incompetent that their EVs are literally coffin tin cans and too competent that they are able to outcompete other companies. Makes sense

usa can just ban like komunis do, what fear?

Jeng,jeng,jeng....again CCP asswipe has spoken. Why Volvo? There's Toyota, Ford, Honda, Mazda, and others that sold more cars than BYD lorr! None of the CCP EVs outsold or better make than Tesla.

Brah....CCP has more than 2 decades to catch up on automotive industry. Yet it's a battery maker that made it. It's the monopoly of lithium ion battery and CCP subsidy that cause the current overcapacity of CCP EV vehicles.




Howlah??!

Because the funny thing is, that when China automaker are trying to catch up, everyone else does not suddenly stop for them. Taikor Xi knows this, that’s why he investing so heavily in green tech, where everyone is starting from scratch, or at least not like ICE where other countries have 50 years extra experience

the 90's all over again

white folks jelly over Jap engines, mandated lots of shit with emissions restrictions bla bla bla

we lost the golden era of RX7, Supra, NSX, Evo etc.

now the white folks thinking how to save their shitshow

Why Volvo? You dont know the reputation of Volvo kah or your knowledge is only Japanese cars?

Of course they sell more as they have been in motor biz longer. Toyota has been making cars since when? BYD history not even a decade. For your info, BYD sales is higher than Tesla as they make hybrid vehicles as well. Even Geely and Changan have higher sales than Tesla.

https://www.carlogos.org/reviews/worlds-top...automakers.html

Why none of the China EV car companies sales of EV is not higher than Tesla? Can China EV be sold in US? Thats the whole point of the video and people like you dont even understand what the video is about. LOL!

AMDK cocksuckers like you always say China subsidise but why EU and US cant subsidise and sell their cars cheaper? You so happy buying expensive cars? CCP subsidy dont benefit other EV makers? You ask Elon Musk lah what he get from China.

How can a battery maker transit to become one of the best EV makers in the world while keeping the cost down. You open US market to BYD and give Tesla real competion lah. For now Tesla got the advantage as they can sale their cars in China and US.

EV everyone start from scratch and thats why Tesla become the most prominent brand. Its a new tech and everyone is at level playing field. Toyota was the one who started the trend of going green with their hybrid Prius but they are being left behind on EV. ICE cars still dominates today but in a few decades time, do you think EV will not be dominating? Thats why US and EU are so worried about China EVs as they arevin the exact position like Japanese cars in the 70s and 80s.

my my... the chap only had good reviews on the car....

of course with the usual complain about cheap labor and relaxed environmental standards which allowed such competitiveness.

50K rm car in malaysia????

I think TS you have English comprehension problem.

Knock off = copy or imitation

BYD copy who now?

Your sarcasm meter rosak?

EV dominate fuiyoh. Yup dominate it will in the future with more catastrophic fires like Luton car park fire. Bloody hell fire so strong sampai the floor also can collapsed. Can't wait for more sohais to die.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: May 15 2024, 09:53 AM

Exactly, this is China corner overtake strategy. They saw that green tech was replacing everything, and everyone had to start from scratch in green tech.

If you think EV will not dominate, why all the major car manufacturers are all producing EVs? Why they are so scared of China’s EV?

As for EV catching fires, the reality is EV cars fires are less than ICE cars but social media made as if EV is worse.

Read this UK article lah about Luton car park fire.
https://www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic/are-el...20ice%20vehicle.

This post has been edited by 30624770: May 15 2024, 10:04 AM

Ask me to read and believe that piece of shit ah ? Go and do your homework la instead sprouting BS. U must be EV maker or dealer.

I did not even ask you to read China propaganda. It’s an article on UK website from their Sunday Times which also hosts articles from Jeremy Clarkson.

This one from Forbes. They also sprouting BS?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/202...sh=8f87ba91dd66

This one from Top Gear. They also sprouting BS?
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/mythbustin...e-catching-fire

This one from the Guardian. They also sprouting BS?
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2023/n...diesel-vehicles

You got do your homework kah or your homework is social media or let me guess China Uncensored?

This post has been edited by 30624770: May 15 2024, 10:20 AM

Since they are not telling the truth, so it's basically BS la. Well if you are into BS, go ahead. I won't want to stop you.

It’s not me. It’s all the articles from all those websites.

It’s you who prefer to believe in BS but I won’t stop you?

Reality

Checked

So little impact but so big hoo-ha

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-bidens-t...-140135630.html

step 1... tax (completed)
step 2... ban
step 3... sanction

Tax hike, no problem, EV car just becomes micro


https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/...-in-the-US.html

If it looks like certain French car , it does.....

Ironic

Don't do North, go South America to Brazil

And go even mid America to Mexico

http://www.aastocks.com/en/stocks/news/aaf...pular-news/AAFN

https://chinaeconomicreview.com/china-ev-ma...-brazil-mexico/



This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 18 2024, 08:47 AM

On items the USA is strong, they talk about free trade.
On items the USA is weak, they talk about sanction and tariff.

https://thedriven.io/2024/05/14/nearly-all-...st-study-finds/



Nearly all major car companies are sabotaging EV transition, and Japan is worst, study finds

US has many friends .....But we all know that already , don't we?

https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2024/0...ntis-ceo/134812

Trade barriers on Chinese EVs a 'big trap', says Stellantis CEO

Placing 100 per cent tariffs on Chinese cars, as the United States has just done, is a “huge trap”, the head of the Stellantis automobile group said yesterday.

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“When you put a bubble around a market, whether it is the American market or the European market, the first thing you do is create massive inflation within the bubble,” said Carlos Tavares, whose group includes brands from France (Peugeot, Citroen), Italy (Fiat, Alfa Romeo) and the United States (Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep).

“And when you create inflation, you hurt the purchasing power of the middle class and you accentuate the technological gap between those within the bubble and those outside who are busy conquering the world,” he said in an interview on French television....

...“We did not wait until there were Chinese manufacturers who were big enough to buy Western manufacturers,” he argued.

maybe the americans should come over to Malaysia and learn whether tariffs on auto works or not to help local manufacturers...

we have plenty of experience since 1980s....

Amerika tu baek negaranya

https://insideevs.com/news/720467/young-peo...dy-autopacific/

Gen Z Americans Are Much More Open To Chinese EVs Than You Think: Study

Automotive research firm AutoPacific has shared some enlightening information that could go against (or confirm, depending on your views) how Americans feel about Chinese electric cars. The group found that Americans are pretty open to Chinese EVs—especially if they’re younger buyers.


For the survey, AutoPacific queried 800 people from ages 18 to 80. From that survey, the group learned that about 36% of all users surveyed said they’d “definitely” or “maybe” consider a Chinese-branded EV. Still, that number skyrockets to a whopping 76% when we only look at the data for buyers below the age of 40. Millennials and Gen Z are very much open to a Chinese-branded EV.

“AutoPacific research has shown a main reason many Americans are hesitant towards EVs is purchase price, and Chinese-brand EVs could potentially offer appealing EV products that could generate excitement for EVs at much more affordable price points,” Kim said. "For cash-strapped young people, a reasonably priced and feature-packed EV would be just what they’re looking for.

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/stella...ns-retaliation-

The empire strike back

https://x.com/CCCEUofficial/status/17929489...ns-retaliation-

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 23 2024, 07:36 AM

https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2024/0...nese-evs/136157

Elon Musk oppose to US Tariff on Chinese EVs

Yes, and if they can’t beat you, they’ll sanction the flying fucuk out of you.

Or better still, export democracy to your shores.

They have a very strong military to make sure you do what they wanted. Iraq. Libya.

But to be honest, the American car industry is a sunset industry due to poor innovation and high labour costs.

The demise of US car industry is self inflicted.

They ban China steel to protect US steel factories. So cost to their auto industry increases.
Their worker union were asking for 46% pay increase in 2023. So cost goes up further.

They seem to have a death wish.

But they’d rather cut off the nose to spite the face…
Instead of making themselves more competitive, they try to make their competitors more expensive. It’s the American people that end up paying more for everything. But they deserve the government they voted for.

same reason so many people voted for Tun as PM the 2nd time and see what happened?

Haha. I read you loud and clear but better let this thread get back on track and not deviate further.

https://eastasiaforum.org/2024/06/02/biden-...onomic-history/

One thing for sure is both Bidennand Trump incidentally the oldest Presidents in the recent years will go down in history for reviving a 100 year old measure of imposing such tarif (No, it did not start with Japanese, it started against Germans)