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Working in Indonesia, Looking for Malaysian community there
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TSMixxomon
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May 9 2024, 11:17 AM, updated 9 months ago
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Hi, I got a job offer in Indonesia, working at the Bekasi Region east of Jakarta.
I wonder any online resources or groups available which is more catered to Malaysians working there. So far major facebook group are filled with western expat and most post are domestic workers asking for jobs.
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teslaman
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May 9 2024, 11:56 AM
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you shouldnt go then
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TSMixxomon
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May 9 2024, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(teslaman @ May 9 2024, 11:56 AM) Any reason?
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hksgmy
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May 9 2024, 06:14 PM
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There's an Indonesian expat here in Malaysia that frequents the forum. I'll tag her for you Daprind - maybe you can connect and ask her for her perspective (on why she came over) and perhaps you can then frame that for context as to why you might wanna do the opposite?
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SUSkesvani
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May 10 2024, 12:32 AM
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Salam pak
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hksgmy
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May 10 2024, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ May 10 2024, 12:32 AM) Oh! Bro, you have lots of experience with Indo… you can certainly help TS
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ck_boon
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May 10 2024, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE(teslaman @ May 9 2024, 05:07 PM) Assume no friends is money alone enough for you? they pay u enough? GO SG WORK ALSO NO fren all work for money only
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hksgmy
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May 10 2024, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ May 10 2024, 01:56 AM) GO SG WORK ALSO NO fren all work for money only But with Sg, can easily hop over to JB for cheap makan and massage…..
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SUSDaprind
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May 10 2024, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 9 2024, 06:14 PM) There's an Indonesian expat here in Malaysia that frequents the forum. I'll tag her for you Daprind - maybe you can connect and ask her for her perspective (on why she came over) and perhaps you can then frame that for context as to why you might wanna do the opposite? Oops sorry. Seems like TS situation is complete opposite of mine. I never had any experience working in Indonesia before cause since young I have been thrown overseas (1998 sucks!). Unfortunately, I can't give advice.
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hksgmy
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May 10 2024, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(Daprind @ May 10 2024, 08:42 AM) Oops sorry. Seems like TS situation is complete opposite of mine. I never had any experience working in Indonesia before cause since young I have been thrown overseas (1998 sucks!). Unfortunately, I can't give advice. Ah, OK... thanks for replying anyway!
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TSMixxomon
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May 10 2024, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 9 2024, 06:14 PM) There's an Indonesian expat here in Malaysia that frequents the forum. I'll tag her for you Daprind - maybe you can connect and ask her for her perspective (on why she came over) and perhaps you can then frame that for context as to why you might wanna do the opposite? In short, money. Compensation will be paid in USD with expat package with housing and transport provided. Why Indonesia, because it's for a tobacco company and I had prior experience. QUOTE(kesvani @ May 10 2024, 12:32 AM) Salam This post has been edited by Mixxomon: May 10 2024, 09:39 AM
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hksgmy
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May 12 2024, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ May 10 2024, 09:38 AM) In short, money. Compensation will be paid in USD with expat package with housing and transport provided. Why Indonesia, because it's for a tobacco company and I had prior experience. Salam Thanks for the clarification. IMVHO, I think your package sounds excellent. Expat packages are hard to find now, and your remuneration is in USD. I’d worry about finding Malaysian friends later, if I were you, and grab this opportunity first haha. Congratulations and good luck bro!
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TSMixxomon
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May 13 2024, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ May 12 2024, 07:22 AM) Thanks for the clarification. IMVHO, I think your package sounds excellent. Expat packages are hard to find now, and your remuneration is in USD. I’d worry about finding Malaysian friends later, if I were you, and grab this opportunity first haha. Congratulations and good luck bro! Thank you so much for the kind words. I think friends will eventually come too, just thought a few acquaintances to teach me the ropes around Indonesia at the early stage will be helpful if not I'm going to just assume Indonesia is just Malaysia with a slightly different Bahasa.
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sweet_pez
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May 14 2024, 01:47 PM
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何を見ているの
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ May 13 2024, 09:06 AM) Thank you so much for the kind words. I think friends will eventually come too, just thought a few acquaintances to teach me the ropes around Indonesia at the early stage will be helpful if not I'm going to just assume Indonesia is just Malaysia with a slightly different Bahasa. You can try this section: https://forum.lowyat.net/Expatriates Hope it helps.
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SUSkesvani
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Jun 15 2024, 08:44 PM
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Hey mixximon. I think its must be a month you been there. May i know how your life there?. Mingle well with local?
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TSMixxomon
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Jun 26 2024, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jun 15 2024, 08:44 PM) Hey mixximon. I think its must be a month you been there. May i know how your life there?. Mingle well with local? Hey there, I've yet to move there. Still awaiting my Indonesia work permit which should be ready by this week or July, then I'll head there in mid August.
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SUSkesvani
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Jun 27 2024, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Jun 26 2024, 12:01 PM) Hey there, I've yet to move there. Still awaiting my Indonesia work permit which should be ready by this week or July, then I'll head there in mid August. Ahh i see. Better learn some of the language right now. Hope you like it there.
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SUSkesvani
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Jul 26 2024, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Jun 26 2024, 12:01 PM) Hey there, I've yet to move there. Still awaiting my Indonesia work permit which should be ready by this week or July, then I'll head there in mid August. Bro you already there??. Why i more cemas than you This post has been edited by kesvani: Jul 26 2024, 11:40 PM
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TSMixxomon
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Jul 28 2024, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jul 26 2024, 11:40 PM) Bro you already there??. Why i more cemas than you  Yeah, you seem to be more invested in my relocation more than myself. Are you staying there? I just got my work permit few weeks back. Will fly to Indonesia come Mid August.
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SUSkesvani
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Jul 28 2024, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Jul 28 2024, 05:25 PM) Yeah, you seem to be more invested in my relocation more than myself. Are you staying there? I just got my work permit few weeks back. Will fly to Indonesia come Mid August.  Because i want to know how you going to adapt to live there. Curious
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TSMixxomon
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Aug 2 2024, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Jul 28 2024, 06:07 PM) Will share my thoughts and experience once I have experience this for a few months. But a common words of wisdom from some of my Malaysian colleagues working there is to spend time to understand them first before doing anything.
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SUSkesvani
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Sep 5 2024, 11:07 PM
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Malam Mas. Kamu apa kabar. Gimana kehidupan kamu sekarang pas disana. Bisa cocok beradaptasi dengan kehidupan disana.
Aku mikirin kamu mesti udah bisa berbicara pake bahasa indonesia.
Penasaran dong mas. Jangan marah marah ye
This post has been edited by kesvani: Sep 5 2024, 11:09 PM
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TSMixxomon
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Sep 9 2024, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Sep 5 2024, 11:07 PM) Malam Mas. Kamu apa kabar. Gimana kehidupan kamu sekarang pas disana. Bisa cocok beradaptasi dengan kehidupan disana. Aku mikirin kamu mesti udah bisa berbicara pake bahasa indonesia. Penasaran dong mas. Jangan marah marah ye Sore Pak. I can comfortably read most of their emails but once they start conversing I lose track of what they're trying to say. Conversing is still quite a challenge. Still trying to learn. Food wise, loving the Sundanese food,though my colleague like to sit in the floor type. Don't know how time I got the kaki kebas. So far so good, but I do get frustrated by some local admin matters.
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SUSkesvani
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Sep 9 2024, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Sep 9 2024, 07:46 PM) Sore Pak. I can comfortably read most of their emails but once they start conversing I lose track of what they're trying to say. Conversing is still quite a challenge. Still trying to learn. Food wise, loving the Sundanese food,though my colleague like to sit in the floor type. Don't know how time I got the kaki kebas. So far so good, but I do get frustrated by some local admin matters.  me too. Ngobrol gampang mas karna kita bisa pikir ketika baca. Kalau bicara udah jadi susah karna kita mau dengarin ngomonganya dan pikir pada waktu yang sama. Jangan campur aduk artinya ya mas karna meskipun katanya sama tapi artinya beda kaya kata bahasa Indonesia percuma itu artinya gak ada guna tapi arti percuma di malaysia itu gratis😆😆😆
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SUSkesvani
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Sep 9 2024, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Sep 9 2024, 07:46 PM) Sore Pak. I can comfortably read most of their emails but once they start conversing I lose track of what they're trying to say. Conversing is still quite a challenge. Still trying to learn. Food wise, loving the Sundanese food,though my colleague like to sit in the floor type. Don't know how time I got the kaki kebas. So far so good, but I do get frustrated by some local admin matters. Ini mesti pake terjemahan. This post has been edited by kesvani: Sep 9 2024, 09:07 PM
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TSMixxomon
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Mar 11 2025, 11:10 AM
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Thought I just give a 6 months update here:
1) My area is pretty much a manufacturing hub, so loads of Japanese companies here. Hence locals here quite used to seeing foreigners
2) Imported goods are generally more expensive here, which is why I do any large purchase back in Malaysia. Only exception is phone because you have to pay a certain amount of taxes for a foreign phone to use local sim card
3) I hate sitting on floors to eat, but the locals love it.
4) Demonstration and strikes are pretty common in companies. Some with reasonable demands (usually labour unions) and sometimes the local groups want pressure companies to do business with them (even locals hate these local groups because they know they just want easy money from ali baba arrangements)
5) Night scene is bizarre. Being able to speak bahasa means you get access to the locals night scene at local prices.
6) People here are friendly, but that also means that they freely talk to random people they meet on the streets just about anything
7) As such, there are no secrets.
8) I wonder why do they need to hire expats to fill some middle management role here, and after working with some of them here, I do realize they're mostly used to the Japanese style of working (i.e. they expect their higher ups to give instructions). European/American style working where you give the destination and objective and they're expect to path their own strategy is a new thing.
They're also extremely hierachial. Your subordinates will never give their own ideas. Collaboration between staff of multiple ranks is foreign to them.
Since they're hierachial, job title is extremely important to them. You still see some habits where managers dismiss some supervisors opinion on the basis of their rank.
Feel free to ask me anything on working in Indonesia, but I have to say, Indonesia is an extremely large and diverse country. Working in different area will have different experience.
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