if you think dating apps is trying to suck your money where your view can be legit because only top 5% of good looking guys get access by the females on there.

If you think you're ugly, why would you force yourself to compete on the internet with no possible advantages?

Just look at outside, i havent seen any guys approach girls in public places ie mall regularly. You said you're a salesperson, you will have advantage by talking to random strangers on the street

It's pointless to see this kind of thread
any actions produce results? No.

you mean that after you started chatting with the ladies, they lost interest in you.

then the problem is the way you chatted with them instead of speculating some conspiracy going around in the app

I think we can all agree that no business is out there to lose money. Dating app is just another business so they'll surely find ways to earn. That said, one of their success factors is that people actually meet their success eventually, and then recommend others by word of mouth.

I found my success (touch wood so far so good) from FB dating without paying a cent. Sure, you can say "girl ma ofc easier".... But my bf said the same and I'm obviously not the only one pair out there, I've heard many success stories.

That being said, I also believe that dating apps are fixating user's mindset and that's a not entirely a good thing for the dating scene. To start, it guides you through profile creation and you literally fill up a form -- there is a preset of questions to answer. It also gives you all kinds of preferences to filter out people. Now you already have a set of criteria in your head and if someone doesn't meet it, you swipe left. Sounds easy, and I think to a certain extent, it helps. E.g. I hate smoking so a smoker is a deal-breaker to me. Anyone who smokes, we don't have to waste time on each other, cool. Add in 10 more "deal-breakers", you suddenly end up with a very small pool of candidates. Look at couples around you and better yet, talk to them. Or at least, let me just say this: he has qualities I never thought I needed until I got to know him, some of which was quite opposite of what I thought I wanted. It takes knowing others to know yourself more.

Well, it tells you to write whatever you want in a free field description so you're not bound to set rules, doesn't that solve the problem? But that exactly is the problem too!
A) You write a full essay about yourself, people lose interest in interacting with you anymore - and you also tell them what to think of you without a two-way exchange to share the details. People read something they don't like and they just proceed to swipe left.

B) You write a list of criteria you're looking for - well that practically goes back to the previous problem: you're limiting your pool. Moreover, someone who reads, "I'm looking for a mature adult", ironically indicates that you're on the immature side that you cannot deal with it.

C) You don't write ANYTHING. Well then you're not giving people a reason to know you; a mystery to solve.

IMO, dating apps, paid or not, is just a tool for you to achieve your goal of finding a partner. It may not work for you but doesn't mean it's faulty; someone else may find use for it.

I'm not sure what is this "likes" u talking about.
Is it like Instagram/tiktok ppl can like ur profile?

If yes, it could be true what u saying..the app may have bot programmed to lure u to subscribe.
Or it could be just the person hope u will like their profile back, to gain popularity just like how Instagram works.

Ofcourse the app/website maker is about money. What makes u think otherwise?

Anyway i'm not sure why u relate ur bad experience of being ghosted or they lost interest in u to what u claiming (website/app make money).

Unless u mean by subscribing u expect u get love potion?

Doesn't make sense for the dating apps to intentionally reduce the number of like that a particular profile receive upon user's subscription right?

I mean, what is there to gain if the user experience is not good and they decided to not continue their subcription?

I would like to be honest that high chance that you and your friends are not attractive enough to get attention from the ladies from dating apps.

ive friend who goes to gym (show muscles) and hobbies
he gets regular matches and can easily ask girl to meet up and go to his place. Just shows you how disadvantageous a male is if he doesnt work on his value

Of course, my friend is very picky with which girl he wants to sleep with, but girls will just keep knocking his door

just proven another point, most girls just wanna be farked.

It's not the fault of dating apps.
It's not your fault about your physical unattractiveness.

In fact it's not about anything or anyone''s fault.
It's just part of the journey of finding your Specific Person.
Some ppl got it faster while some take some time. It's so normal.

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What we Think, we "broadcast " to the universe.
What we broadcast, we attract...
The loops repeat.

The "attractiveness " of a person comes from the "inner vibes".

Their ways of thinking.
Their values on life, relationship, money and some other important parts of life.
Their daily habits and routines that help to shape or strengthen their vibes.
So it would reflect on how they communicate to the opposite genders.

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It might worth your thoughts...

Probably you may consider split up your after work time to learn about self improvement, about financial management, about taking care your health, about managing relationship  from some of the well known and proven successful figures..

To see significant results, it means to take some significant changes in your daily habits and routines..
It means you might need to adjust some time to be in silent mode in order for you to be able to execute the changes, more efficiently.

Probably you may also start with consistent work out on daily basis.
If you are on budget, there are lots of demo videos on YouTube on overall or partially work out.
If you wish enjoy the gym environment then apply gym membership.


But above all things, if you wish find luck in dating apps, you may reflect on yourself....

What are your. "Core beliefs " towards the roles of  females in relationship and in marriage ?

How would you like to communicate with them in ways that let them feel that not only you're a bit interesting but most importantly, they can feel your genuine respect and genuine intentions to females ?
....Assume you wish find a lady that could probably with you lifetime. If this is the case.

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Not all ladies wants very good looking guys.
For some ladies, as long as the guys keep their appearance neat, clean, tidy, and with good integrity,   
and with heavy sense of responsibility, even plain looking guys can get their good match.

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Most ppl are not born good at everything...
It just take times on learning .  And keep learning along the the life.

When you start the changes bit by bit and your confidence grow, you attract better pools of quality match and eventually might be  your specific person.

Hey guys wanna ask- how fast are we expected to reply girls messages these days? Is 1 day gap too late? Usually will match on CMB then bring forward convo to IG; but usually convo dies off over time

Wow is that the norm nowadays? 45min to 1 hour is quite fast in my opinion

No luck with dating app, all scammers. Either scam or ask for sex. Lol.

Investment. Telling you 'Brb, I am going to check my market' 😅

Latest one is to get you like their online page which i am not sure what they can get other than a like. 😐

Nope, if you talking about fb dating profile, tinder.

Gave up 😅.

I guess I am okay to be single, probably status ain't my priority anymore like what used to be.

I am also slowly getting used to being single now. Getting emotionally tired from trying dating apps.

Dating app feels very disconnected. Those that I match with r also very cautious when chatting so things slowly die off. Don't feel like they have the intrest in getting to know each other.

Don't know how you guys chat with girls or talk with them. Most I talk to ok je.

I am not sure what i want after went through a short relationship like maybe 2 or 3 years ago and from what i can said about myself in that moment, i don't care how he looks at all (tbh, he is way below average) and he is even barely can pay for our date (AA, and it doesn't bother me at all).

The funniest part, he does care about how I look and how much I earned (my observation won't go wrong). He left me during my toughest time.
So, when every time i am trying to know someone, i will automatically tell them, I am  over 100kg (which is true previously) or how ugly I am. I do not want to waste anybody time. End up, not even one online person was keep in my phone list.

Time fast forward, I am tired doing this and slowly giving up about having someone to come into my life.

During the early stage of CMB, if the profile likes you, and the profile appeared in your 12pm list of profiles, the profile will have a notification say that this person likes you one, but now they totally removed it..

And then they introduced, who like me feature, where CMB subscriber can see who has liked em. Then i remember this feature got bug/loophole, where you still can gauge who has like you when swiping the profile. This is because despite profile is blurred in the who like me, still can agak agak guess which profile has liked me if you do the comparison lah. In addition, you still get to swipe profile who like you or not, even didnt subscribe the services.
And lately APP is quite cheeky, purposely show 10-20 peoples like you, but somehow when you swipe ah, you wont get to swipe them one... The amount of people who like you, will remain there, meaning, you wont have a chance to swipe their profile.. 

But anyway, whats important is a good profile and know how to chat with opposite sex, those subscription is just additional tools to do analysis on your matches...

why i say analysis, because those profile stats such as last online, whether send first messages, how often they reply a message, can tell you alot about the person behavior in the app. haha.