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Apr 15 2024, 10:28 AM, updated 2y ago
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Apr 15 2024, 10:30 AM
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if u follow bnm standard chances are you can never retire.
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Apr 15 2024, 10:31 AM
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bnm standard at 50 only 400k? tabuli ini machiam. Must at least 2x or 3x..
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Apr 15 2024, 10:35 AM
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Pls clarify what do you meant by "saving"?
Does it include EPF and personal saving/investment? The figure shown seem ridiculously low. |
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Apr 15 2024, 10:35 AM
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Asking here, most /k by 30, millionaires already lah Lembu Goreng, NoComment222, and 3 others liked this post
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Apr 15 2024, 10:38 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 15 2024, 10:35 AM) Pls clarify what do you meant by "saving"? everything... that you can live off once you retire.Does it include EPF and personal saving/investment? The figure shown seem ridiculously low. so it should include all forms of investments. figure seems low coz we are Merehsians with more than half having less than 10k in EPF. |
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Apr 15 2024, 10:41 AM
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rm10m. always set a higher bar.
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Apr 15 2024, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Apr 15 2024, 10:39 AM) everything... that you can live off once you retire. But first column titled "EPF saving target", then 2nd column show BNM figure (not sure what it even means), is the BNM column personal saving excluding EPF? so it should include all forms of investments. figure seems low coz we are Merehsians with more than half having less than 10k in EPF. |
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Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM
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If you can't hit 1m by early 30s, just go kill yourself.
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Apr 15 2024, 10:44 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 10:51 AM
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why are u not dead by 50yo? u guys really think u can live till 80?
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Apr 15 2024, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM) Dayum,Then many should have died Including my self vince316 liked this post
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Apr 15 2024, 10:52 AM
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not relevant....we here all are millionair net asset
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Apr 15 2024, 10:53 AM
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seems like I can retire already.
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Apr 15 2024, 10:54 AM
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3x annual salary, damn, I am so far behind that amount
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Apr 15 2024, 10:56 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 10:59 AM
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fak it,i dont follow those...
i more to relax now n dailly....and die early jer |
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Apr 15 2024, 11:05 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 11:07 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:07 AM) Reaching 53k savings by the time you're 30 is stupidly difficult at this point in time. i think also need to consider whether the 53k savings include after owning house? or its wholly just savings and the person doesnt owns a house and have yet to paid any house instalment/deposits..Who ask you gaji besar |
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Apr 15 2024, 11:12 AM
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Tunggu mati jelah. Dah masok kubur tak payah simpan2.
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Apr 15 2024, 11:14 AM
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I touching 40 soon, epf also close to 1m liau. The target set so low wan
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Apr 15 2024, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 15 2024, 11:09 AM) i think also need to consider whether the 53k savings include after owning house? or its wholly just savings and the person doesnt owns a house and have yet to paid any house instalment/deposits.. don't care what you bought, or what you are currently paying... if you've setup this emergency fund , you can easily achieve these figures... unless you have no emergency funds setup or very low emergency funds to last you 1-2 months... |
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Apr 15 2024, 11:15 AM
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4 million per person. soul78 liked this post
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Apr 15 2024, 11:18 AM
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MYR jatuh gila, macam mana nak jimat?
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Apr 15 2024, 11:20 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 11:27 AM
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Apr 15 2024, 11:28 AM
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Cukur can meet it all
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Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 15 2024, 11:09 AM) i think also need to consider whether the 53k savings include after owning house? or its wholly just savings and the person doesnt owns a house and have yet to paid any house instalment/deposits.. Lets say its savings la53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount. Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years. Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest |
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Apr 15 2024, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM) Lets say its savings la savings is ok... epf i think a bit on the low side... esp when you work close to 10 years?53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount. Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years. Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest |
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Apr 15 2024, 11:34 AM
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about there ..3x of annual*
this is unrealized gain/loss* if didnt take EPF into calculation This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Apr 15 2024, 11:35 AM |
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i have RM132.03 right now.
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Apr 15 2024, 11:43 AM
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2.6b
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Apr 15 2024, 11:47 AM
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if ur 50, EPF only 175 can really eat dust jor.
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Apr 15 2024, 11:52 AM
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semua simpan simpan.... siapa mau belanja.... ekonomy GG...
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Apr 15 2024, 11:56 AM
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30yo - 240k saving (1x)
40yo - 720k saving (3x) /k standard |
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Apr 15 2024, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM) Lets say its savings la I think it is achievable if they save up all the bonus they got, the crucial point is the financial discipline.53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount. Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years. Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest wawasan2200 liked this post
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Apr 15 2024, 12:17 PM
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If can get an IT job in SG for 10 years, easy to become millionaire.
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Apr 15 2024, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM) What does BNM living standards even means? Can live in Bank Negara Malaysia lifestyle?This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Apr 15 2024, 12:33 PM Kaya Butter Toast liked this post
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Apr 15 2024, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM) Lets say its savings la I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26. Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working. 53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount. Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years. Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest It's definitely possible. |
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Apr 15 2024, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 12:53 PM) I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26. Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working. Alot pepolz not practice delayed gratification... It's definitely possible. they got money... they spend ... on things they want.. not what they need. if pepolz save 30-50% of your income monthly... and leave way below your means for few decades... you can actually reach your goals.. but most would want alphards or ketamz once celery reached 6k above... Kaya Butter Toast liked this post
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Apr 15 2024, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Apr 15 2024, 01:17 PM) I think I see your face before and I guess you must be in 40++. Do you have any plan for your future actually got epf n saving a bit la....wont die of hunger 1 if got hand n legoh ya i going jakarta this may...hope can meet some ladyies called me koko koko koko koko uh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh This post has been edited by poco loco: Apr 15 2024, 01:35 PM |
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24 - 48k
25 -100k 26 -195k 27 - 280k (Exclude epf) Portfolio 70% US stocks (unrealized gain : 30k) 20% ASNB 10% Cash/FD Very slow progress, tell me when can I reach 1 million? |
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 12:53 PM) I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26. Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working. If you buy house and property price went up, easy to hit 1m networth la. It's definitely possible. Having 1m in your bank account is something entirely different. The simple fact is, you are you. Maybe you got lucky in some way, or worked really hard to create a high income path for yourself. You're an outlier, which means majority cannot be like you. You need to structure policy/benchmark based on achieveable results by the masses and at the level they are at. Financial education is certainly lacking, but even if we can educate people, those numbers listed are going to be really hard to reach with current market conditions. |
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Apr 15 2024, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(potatolala @ Apr 15 2024, 02:05 PM) Stay focus. QUOTE(DM3 @ Apr 15 2024, 02:07 PM) Why not? They withdraw? QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 02:09 PM) If you buy house and property price went up, easy to hit 1m networth la. You do know what's net worth right? It's after deduct liabilities.Having 1m in your bank account is something entirely different. The simple fact is, you are you. Maybe you got lucky in some way, or worked really hard to create a high income path for yourself. You're an outlier, which means majority cannot be like you. You need to structure policy/benchmark based on achieveable results by the masses and at the level they are at. Financial education is certainly lacking, but even if we can educate people, those numbers listed are going to be really hard to reach with current market conditions. I never include property and it's loan into the calculation. The rent can cover monthly installment, so I'm putting it aside. |
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 03:23 PM) Stay focus. As per Epf reported many members very little money in accWhy not? They withdraw? You do know what's net worth right? It's after deduct liabilities. I never include property and it's loan into the calculation. The rent can cover monthly installment, so I'm putting it aside. |
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Apr 15 2024, 03:31 PM
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damn, i iz lucky hit age 50 epf in age 33.
gooding k/ standard |
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Apr 15 2024, 03:34 PM
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Regardless what multipliers at whatever age before retirement, once old and past retirement age, must make sure networth is more than 20x of annual expenditure.
If possible, 30x to be very comfortable. |
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Apr 15 2024, 03:38 PM
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according to /k/ standard I saved 20k per month net...
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my fren just dieded recently. so dat taught me money isn't everything after all
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deii mana bole retire with those amount at least triple pls
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