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post Apr 15 2024, 10:28 AM, updated 2y ago

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if u follow bnm standard chances are you can never retire.
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bnm standard at 50 only 400k? tabuli ini machiam. Must at least 2x or 3x..
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Pls clarify what do you meant by "saving"?
Does it include EPF and personal saving/investment?

The figure shown seem ridiculously low.
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post Apr 15 2024, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(blmse92 @ Apr 15 2024, 10:31 AM)
bnm standard at 50 only 400k? tabuli ini machiam. Must at least 2x or 3x..
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Why the BNM figures show sharp increase like that? As if a person saving can suddenly multiply a lot from 40 to 50...
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post Apr 15 2024, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 15 2024, 10:35 AM)
Pls clarify what do you meant by "saving"?
Does it include EPF and personal saving/investment?

The figure shown seem ridiculously low.
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everything... that you can live off once you retire.

so it should include all forms of investments.

figure seems low coz we are Merehsians with more than half having less than 10k in EPF.


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QUOTE(soul78 @ Apr 15 2024, 10:39 AM)
everything... that you can live off once you retire.

so it should include all forms of investments.

figure seems low coz we are Merehsians with more than half having less than 10k in EPF.
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But first column titled "EPF saving target", then 2nd column show BNM figure (not sure what it even means), is the BNM column personal saving excluding EPF? rclxub.gif
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If you can't hit 1m by early 30s, just go kill yourself.


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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Apr 15 2024, 10:35 AM)
Asking here, most /k by 30, millionaires already lah
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I beg to differ. After reading the LHDN filing thread.

I don't know how all these millionaire is getting refunded from taxes.
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why are u not dead by 50yo? u guys really think u can live till 80?
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM)
If you can't hit 1m by early 30s, just go kill yourself.
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Dayum,

Then many should have died

Including my self
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post Apr 15 2024, 10:52 AM

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seems like I can retire already.
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post Apr 15 2024, 10:54 AM

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3x annual salary, damn, I am so far behind that amount
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Apr 15 2024, 10:51 AM)
Dayum,

Then many should have died

Including my self
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It's not that hard seriously.

My salary when I started working was 2.7k at age 24. At age 26 I was making 3.3k.

Building net worth requires a lot of discipline and sacrifices.


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Dayum,

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Reaching 53k savings by the time you're 30 is stupidly difficult at this point in time.

QUOTE(Mavik @ Apr 15 2024, 10:54 AM)
3x annual salary, damn, I am so far behind that amount
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Who ask you gaji besar
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:07 AM)
Reaching 53k savings by the time you're 30 is stupidly difficult at this point in time.
Who ask you gaji besar
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i think also need to consider whether the 53k savings include after owning house? or its wholly just savings and the person doesnt owns a house and have yet to paid any house instalment/deposits..
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post Apr 15 2024, 11:12 AM

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I touching 40 soon, epf also close to 1m liau. The target set so low wan
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 15 2024, 11:09 AM)
i think also need to consider whether the 53k savings include after owning house? or its wholly just savings and the person doesnt owns a house and have yet to paid any house instalment/deposits..
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don't care what you bought, or what you are currently paying...

if you've setup this emergency fund , you can easily achieve these figures...

unless you have no emergency funds setup or very low emergency funds to last you 1-2 months...
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Apr 15 2024, 10:44 AM)
I beg to differ. After reading the LHDN filing thread.

I don't know how all these millionaire is getting refunded from taxes.
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QUOTE(jyll92 @ Apr 15 2024, 10:30 AM)
if u follow bnm standard chances are you can never retire.
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Agreed, cause you gonna run out of money 5 yrs after retirement...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 15 2024, 11:09 AM)
i think also need to consider whether the 53k savings include after owning house? or its wholly just savings and the person doesnt owns a house and have yet to paid any house instalment/deposits..
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Lets say its savings la

53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount.

Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years.

Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM)
Lets say its savings la

53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount.

Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years.

Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest
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savings is ok... epf i think a bit on the low side... esp when you work close to 10 years?
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about there ..3x of annual*

this is unrealized gain/loss*




if didnt take EPF into calculation



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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Apr 15 2024, 11:34 AM)
about there ..3x of annual*

this is unrealized gain/loss*
if didnt take EPF into calculation
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If follow k standard, 20k incum month


Wow u are rich
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Apr 15 2024, 10:44 AM)
I beg to differ. After reading the LHDN filing thread.

I don't know how all these millionaire is getting refunded from taxes.
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QUOTE(Prometric @ Apr 15 2024, 11:14 AM)
I touching 40 soon, epf also close to 1m liau. The target set so low wan
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you're oversaving. please stop doing it. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:07 AM)
Who ask you gaji besar
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Yeah lor, so now have to start saving even more now.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM)
If you can't hit 1m by early 30s, just go kill yourself.
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Like that all b40 can go dai oredi laugh.gif
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if ur 50, EPF only 175 can really eat dust jor.
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30yo - 240k saving (1x)

40yo - 720k saving (3x)

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Apr 15 2024, 11:48 AM)
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Apr 15 2024, 11:48 AM)
Like that all b40 can go dai oredi laugh.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM)
Lets say its savings la

53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount.

Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years.

Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest
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I think it is achievable if they save up all the bonus they got, the crucial point is the financial discipline.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM)
If you can't hit 1m by early 30s, just go kill yourself. married someone with twice that amount.
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What does BNM living standards even means? Can live in Bank Negara Malaysia lifestyle?

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 11:31 AM)
Lets say its savings la

53k in 10 years (realistically, 8 cause you probably only get your first job around 22yo). Means you need to save ~6k a year for 8 years. Doesn't seem a lot, but if you're earning 4k, your nett is around 3.5k, and RM500 is close to 20% of your salary. With price of everything today, unless you stay home with parents and mummy still cook for you, unlikely can save that amount.

Also in the same row, it says EPF saving by 30 should be 35k. Using 8 years as benchmark, that's only 4k/year of EPF contribution. If your salary is 4k, per month about ~RM900 already goes into epf. One year already 11k. Can hit your EPF target in 3 years.

Quite impossible for salary to be so low that you only have 35k in your EPF by age 30. Even if your salary is only 2k, your EPF would be at 46k, not counting dividends and compound interest
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I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26. Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working.

It's definitely possible.

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 12:53 PM)
I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26.  Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working.

It's definitely possible.
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Alot pepolz not practice delayed gratification...

they got money... they spend ... on things they want.. not what they need.

if pepolz save 30-50% of your income monthly... and leave way below your means for few decades... you can actually reach your goals..

but most would want alphards or ketamz once celery reached 6k above...
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Apr 15 2024, 11:44 AM)
If follow k standard, 20k incum month
Wow u are rich
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QUOTE(poco loco @ Apr 15 2024, 10:59 AM)
fak it,i dont follow those...
i more to relax now n dailly....and die early jer
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I think I see your face before and I guess you must be in 40++. Do you have any plan for your future actually
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Apr 15 2024, 01:17 PM)
I think I see your face before and I guess you must be in 40++. Do you have any plan for your future actually
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got epf n saving a bit la....wont die of hunger 1 if got hand n leg

oh ya i going jakarta this may...hope can meet some ladyies called me koko koko koko koko uh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 10:43 AM)
If you can't hit 1m by early 30s, just go kill yourself.
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Why you like that. I feel so demotivated and depressed. 😔
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QUOTE(bogletails @ Apr 15 2024, 02:03 PM)
24 - 48k
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26 -195k
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(Exclude epf)

Portfolio
70% US stocks (unrealized gain : 30k)
20% ASNB
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Very slow progress, tell me when can I reach 1 million?
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 12:53 PM)
I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26.  Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working.

It's definitely possible.
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But not for 80%+ epf members
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 12:53 PM)
I was earning 2.7k at age 24 and 3.3k at age 26.  Way lesser than what you posted here. Heck even took 1 year off my career, still can hit 1 million ++ net worth with 9 years working.

It's definitely possible.
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If you buy house and property price went up, easy to hit 1m networth la.

Having 1m in your bank account is something entirely different.

The simple fact is, you are you. Maybe you got lucky in some way, or worked really hard to create a high income path for yourself. You're an outlier, which means majority cannot be like you. You need to structure policy/benchmark based on achieveable results by the masses and at the level they are at. Financial education is certainly lacking, but even if we can educate people, those numbers listed are going to be really hard to reach with current market conditions.


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QUOTE(potatolala @ Apr 15 2024, 02:05 PM)
Why you like that. I feel so demotivated and depressed. 😔
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Stay focus.
QUOTE(DM3 @ Apr 15 2024, 02:07 PM)
But not for 80%+ epf members
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Why not? They withdraw?
QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 15 2024, 02:09 PM)
If you buy house and property price went up, easy to hit 1m networth la.

Having 1m in your bank account is something entirely different.

The simple fact is, you are you. Maybe you got lucky in some way, or worked really hard to create a high income path for yourself. You're an outlier, which means majority cannot be like you. You need to structure policy/benchmark based on achieveable results by the masses and at the level they are at. Financial education is certainly lacking, but even if we can educate people, those numbers listed are going to be really hard to reach with current market conditions.
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You do know what's net worth right? It's after deduct liabilities.

I never include property and it's loan into the calculation. The rent can cover monthly installment, so I'm putting it aside.


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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 03:23 PM)
Stay focus.
Why not? They withdraw?
You do know what's net worth right? It's after deduct liabilities.

I never include property and it's loan into the calculation. The rent can cover monthly installment, so I'm putting it aside.
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As per Epf reported many members very little money in acc
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Apr 15 2024, 03:24 PM)
As per Epf reported many members very little money in acc
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Because these cibai keep withdraw. Then blame government.

How many people under age 30 withdraw epf to buy house and renovate house?

Why can't rent and build up epf money
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Regardless what multipliers at whatever age before retirement, once old and past retirement age, must make sure networth is more than 20x of annual expenditure.

If possible, 30x to be very comfortable.
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according to /k/ standard I saved 20k per month net...
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Apr 15 2024, 11:56 AM)
30yo - 240k saving (1x)

40yo - 720k saving (3x)

/k standard
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 03:31 PM)
Because these cibai keep withdraw. Then blame government.

How many people under age 30 withdraw epf to buy house and renovate house?

Why can't rent and build up epf money
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 03:31 PM)
Because these cibai keep withdraw. Then blame government.

How many people under age 30 withdraw epf to buy house and renovate house?

Why can't rent and build up epf money
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Even dun take out the majority over 12mils member had below 72k in acc
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Apr 15 2024, 03:54 PM)
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I just hope you know what you're doing.

Most people don't, for them, owning a 700k - 1m ringgit house with 200k renovation liability is more important than growing your pot of money.
SUSKaya Butter Toast
post Apr 15 2024, 04:02 PM

Casual
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Apr 15 2024, 03:55 PM)
Even dun take out the majority over 12mils member had below 72k in acc
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Luckily I don't follow the majority
iGamer
post Apr 15 2024, 04:04 PM

Toxic ktards probably losers irl
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QUOTE(Rustaman69 @ Apr 15 2024, 03:51 PM)
my fren just dieded recently. so dat taught me money isn't everything after all
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How much money he left behind?
Wedchar2912
post Apr 15 2024, 04:07 PM

Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Apr 15 2024, 04:02 PM)
Luckily I don't follow the majority
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The majority got gov and asb. Epf is stupid for them cos still need to deduct zakat
bristlebb
post Apr 15 2024, 04:11 PM

On my way
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deii mana bole retire with those amount at least triple pls
Rustaman69
post Apr 22 2024, 08:53 AM

Getting Started
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 15 2024, 04:04 PM)
How much money he left behind?
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how shud i know. but he got amg cla 45 and 2 smol kids. feel pity for the family

 

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