
https://www.lowyat.net/2024/320110/tng-ewal...n-fee-overseas/
TnG eWallet To Charge 1% Conversion Fee, For Overseas Transactions
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Apr 8 2024, 11:19 AM, updated 2y ago
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Apr 8 2024, 11:30 AM
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So go china pay via alipay+ now need pay 1% more. Not very competitive anymore... billylks liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 11:32 AM
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Topkek.
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Apr 8 2024, 11:33 AM
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If not they eat grass meh
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Apr 8 2024, 11:34 AM
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Better just use wise card. Easier max_cavalera, ye0073, and 4 others liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 11:38 AM
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monopoly showing its true color
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Apr 8 2024, 11:38 AM
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aka, no need use tng, use cc terus or cash is still king bitchnes
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Apr 8 2024, 11:39 AM
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If I pay Agoda using T&G (shows alipay QR code) -> am I going to be charged 1%? Is it alipay fee or conversion fee?
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Apr 8 2024, 11:40 AM
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Even before this 1% fee, wise conversion is already lower than TnG. You add in this 1%, no one gonna bother to use TnG now.
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Apr 8 2024, 11:47 AM
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Apr 8 2024, 11:50 AM
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Apr 8 2024, 11:51 AM
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Apr 8 2024, 11:52 AM
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They really trying all their ways to squeeze user money
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Apr 8 2024, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 8 2024, 11:33 AM) they already collecting your data, selfie with mykad, which is far more valuable than these % feesthink about it il0ve51 liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(xhruso00 @ Apr 8 2024, 11:39 AM) If I pay Agoda using T&G (shows alipay QR code) -> am I going to be charged 1%? Is it alipay fee or conversion fee? Most likely is comversion fee.I didnt know alipay got fee? Unless u make payment in China i guess? Some banks like CIMB, SCB and few others has been doing this for ages already This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Apr 8 2024, 11:54 AM |
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Apr 8 2024, 11:54 AM
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my ewallet very minimal use already always cc as priority now, then mae, then cash, then consider using tng Kalimuthu liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 12:04 PM
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nobody ain't got so many time to care for how many different 1% TnG charge
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Apr 8 2024, 12:05 PM
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KEK. Their rate isn't that great anyway
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Apr 8 2024, 12:06 PM
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many alternative now anyway
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Apr 8 2024, 12:07 PM
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Bye bye TnG march4th liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 12:09 PM
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Yeah, go duck yourself
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Apr 8 2024, 12:15 PM
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steam games also will get charge this 1%?
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Apr 8 2024, 12:15 PM
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Tng is not a charity organisation, need to make money to sustain.
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Apr 8 2024, 12:18 PM
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pattern sudah keluar
hope the alipay partnership is not exclusive, otherwise, it'll need intervention. |
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Apr 8 2024, 12:34 PM
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nasib baik bukan avid tng user...only for minimal usage. dont want to give them my data.
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Apr 8 2024, 12:39 PM
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so boikott?
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Apr 8 2024, 12:41 PM
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Wait so If I top up with cc Kena 1%
Then if use the money inside and pay in overseas also another 1% per transaction? Damn. Totally useless this tng. I tot wanna try it in Thailand in my next trip. Wise better la |
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Apr 8 2024, 12:44 PM
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So for overseas transaction (assuming if you are using CC to reload)
1. 1% charge to reload using CC. 2. Forex rate different charges. 3. Overseas transaction fee. Gooding? NO. Back to CC you might get better benefits (i.e. PPL spending requirements etc). Bye TnG, better just use Wise / CC / Cash. |
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Apr 8 2024, 12:46 PM
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Apr 8 2024, 12:47 PM
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Apr 8 2024, 12:47 PM
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Money exchange is the cheapest . No need to worry About con version rate whatsoever .
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Apr 8 2024, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Apr 8 2024, 12:41 PM) Wait so If I top up with cc Kena 1% OmgThen if use the money inside and pay in overseas also another 1% per transaction? Damn. Totally useless this tng. I tot wanna try it in Thailand in my next trip. Wise better la QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 8 2024, 11:33 AM) QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 8 2024, 12:15 PM) They said they been subsidising it..They been doing well right? So put lower amount lah, 0.5% kot.. Or remove that 1% charge on CC. QUOTE(brkli @ Apr 8 2024, 12:04 PM) Right.T20.. M40.. probably don't. They can afford it as part of the holiday expenses I guess B40 probably carry cash. |
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Apr 8 2024, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Apr 8 2024, 12:44 PM) So for overseas transaction (assuming if you are using CC to reload) Problem is china don't use visa/MC, so except for international hotels and big department stores, you cannot use cc.1. 1% charge to reload using CC. 2. Forex rate different charges. 3. Overseas transaction fee. Gooding? NO. Back to CC you might get better benefits (i.e. PPL spending requirements etc). Bye TnG, better just use Wise / CC / Cash. I suppose for small purchases the extra charges is not much and worth the convenience. |
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Apr 8 2024, 12:50 PM
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Apr 8 2024, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 8 2024, 12:49 PM) Problem is china don't use visa/MC, so except for international hotels and big department stores, you cannot use cc. Yeah, and this is only applicable to China only. I suppose for small purchases the extra charges is not much and worth the convenience. The rest, can forget about TnG. And soon you might find other e-wallets supported in China. or WeChat pay becomes more lenient. |
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Apr 8 2024, 01:00 PM
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Yeah...bye bye TnG.
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Apr 8 2024, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 8 2024, 11:34 AM) FYI Wise cards not acceptable n China RT8081 liked this post
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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Apr 8 2024, 12:48 PM) Omg If customers not happy, can use other services.They said they been subsidising it.. They been doing well right? So put lower amount lah, 0.5% kot.. Or remove that 1% charge on CC. Right. T20.. M40.. probably don't. They can afford it as part of the holiday expenses I guess B40 probably carry cash. |
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QUOTE(Ttbatdtptsm @ Apr 8 2024, 12:47 PM) if you mean money changer, their rate could be worse than visa/master rate.QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 8 2024, 01:04 PM) if credit card, need to use unionpay. But smaller shops might not accept credit card. QR Payment is more common there. Other options would be Alipay or WeChat pay. RT8081 liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 01:15 PM
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Cant understand why need to use T&G to pay overseas. Just use CC la
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QUOTE(Koranshita @ Apr 8 2024, 12:41 PM) Wait so If I top up with cc Kena 1% If you still wants to use ewallet, MAE also can use to pay in Thai.Then if use the money inside and pay in overseas also another 1% per transaction? Damn. Totally useless this tng. I tot wanna try it in Thailand in my next trip. Wise better la https://soyacincau.com/2023/05/30/maybank-m...der-duitnow-qr/ |
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Apr 8 2024, 01:16 PM
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last time they laugh at unker old fashion.. why still using CC
swipe, key in pin, wait for print out.. so old fashion.. they just scan the phone.. so high tech.. now i laughing hahahaa This post has been edited by seather: Apr 8 2024, 01:16 PM |
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not a fan of tng since forever
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time to change back Wise, lower than tng
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QUOTE(xhruso00 @ Apr 8 2024, 01:42 PM) Most CC card have crossborder fee. Please tell ayam which one doesn't have either crossborder fee or HIDDEN(inflated) commision on top of conversion (talking about you UOB SH*T) Wise? leftycall9 liked this post
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1% of foreign currency before conversion?
OR 1% in MYR currency after conversion? |
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Oversea straight away use WISE.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 8 2024, 04:34 AM) Many places like street vendors in China don't accept credit card. You probably stuck with TnGcorrection. They DON"T This post has been edited by touristking: Apr 8 2024, 02:33 PM RT8081 liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Apr 8 2024, 12:49 PM) Problem is china don't use visa/MC, so except for international hotels and big department stores, you cannot use cc. I suppose for small purchases the extra charges is not much and worth the convenience. QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 8 2024, 01:04 PM) pubic bank's unionpay debit card RT8081 liked this post
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Apr 8 2024, 01:15 PM) QUOTE(seather @ Apr 8 2024, 01:16 PM) last time they laugh at unker old fashion.. why still using CC CC conversion rate by bank can pakai?swipe, key in pin, wait for print out.. so old fashion.. they just scan the phone.. so high tech.. now i laughing hahahaa |
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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 8 2024, 02:23 PM) For China, you don't have many options. On certain transactions, alipay charge 3%.Read you can now tie your international credit card to Alipay etc. I would not be surprised if they also charge you transaction fees. QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 8 2024, 02:24 PM) Many places like street vendors in China don't accept credit card. You probably stuck with TnG Alipay a option.correction. They DON"T |
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Apr 8 2024, 12:44 PM) So for overseas transaction (assuming if you are using CC to reload) CC usually charge higher forex rate. If your spending is very low then ok la swipe all you want. 1. 1% charge to reload using CC. 2. Forex rate different charges. 3. Overseas transaction fee. Gooding? NO. Back to CC you might get better benefits (i.e. PPL spending requirements etc). Bye TnG, better just use Wise / CC / Cash. If your purchase is big and swipe cc it actually expensive. Haha The only positive thing is you don't need to download other app just to do cross border payment. |
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This affects the most to TnG users who travel to China as e-wallet is the main payment method in China. I have not seen merchants or any restaurants accept our Visa/Mastercard during my 1 week travel in Guangzhou China last month. (I did not spend in high end merchants or hotel) Our TnG is widely accepted in China, we can scan their Alipay QR and they can scan our QR without fail. We directly can see how much the rate in ringgit after we scan China Alipay QR. I can say TnG exchange rate is quite similar to Mid valley moneychanger. So now TnG want to charge 1% conversation rate, I think it's is acceptable, it would be similar to bank rate. Just slightly higher than money changer. P.s. I did not spend a single cent of cash in China. I did exchange some cash from mid valley moneychanger before I depart to china mana tau cash has no use at all. now I gonna exchange it back. Sudah rugi. ![]() This post has been edited by la bella: Apr 8 2024, 03:54 PM kembayang liked this post
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Apr 8 2024, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Lescotesco @ Apr 8 2024, 02:31 PM) Why cannot? The difference of rate between CC and T&G is not that huge anyway unless you tell me you are spending RM10k everyday. Been using CC and Wise card for my travels and never had any issue. The best part is, some ppl topping up T&G with cc . This one really topkek. |
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Apr 8 2024, 03:53 PM
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Wechat with visamaster got charge?
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ Apr 8 2024, 03:00 PM) CC usually charge higher forex rate. If your spending is very low then ok la swipe all you want. some CC might be low oneIf your purchase is big and swipe cc it actually expensive. Haha The only positive thing is you don't need to download other app just to do cross border payment. or the rewards > benefits i.e. got cashback promo for spending etc personally i dun really like using ewallet overseas whenever possible apart from SG and PH with grab only dogbert_chew liked this post
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Apr 8 2024, 03:44 PM) Why cannot? The difference of rate between CC and T&G is not that huge anyway unless you tell me you are spending RM10k everyday. Been using CC and Wise card for my travels and never had any issue. The best part is, some ppl topping up T&G with cc . This one really topkek. i also noticed this tng now got charge for cc convinent fees. wth, but the auto reload feature didnt so i just continue to let it auto reload only.if u don care about the conversion rate ofcoz no issue to u lo, i care so that is an issue for me even 2k transfer of sgd per month for example cimb vs wise can have RM35 different 1 so i will compare first before converting. can share 1 example of ur tng vs cc spending example to see the diff? |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 8 2024, 07:51 AM) I think you need to have a China bank card to use Alipay. I think TnG is linked to Alipay+Few months ago, with TnG, the merchants need to scan your code. And not vice versa. This month, it can work both ways |
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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 22 2024, 11:27 AM) I think you need to have a China bank card to use Alipay. I think TnG is linked to Alipay+ Yeah just back from biz trip in china cause use touch n go ewallet to scan.. no charge yet..Few months ago, with TnG, the merchants need to scan your code. And not vice versa. This month, it can work both ways |
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