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a_dot_el
post Apr 8 2024, 10:37 AM

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post Apr 8 2024, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 10:18 AM)
Ali Tinju, lowyat to red shirt march (heading to Petaling Street, not the original gathering) to disrupting Atuks no where to hide

PS fun fact Ali Tinju not charged over lowyat

https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/ali-tin...d-lack-evidence

Jamal Yunos..nuff said

Papagomo when he was still chummy with Najib?

You know how the game is played. PH cais (well most of them anyways) lay off when its their fav govt in power. The same can be said for others as well

Sure abg non not doing a good job but you cant believe what you say above 100% right?
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Past BN is expert engineering R&R event but it's always controllable. Everyone know gangster like Ali Tinju and Jamal Jamban are tools to attack their political opponent, not really about riling up the people and move the country towards extremism or damaging the confidence of investor. Same goes to Lowyat event, it's just an excuse to setup the Mara Digital Mall to grow their own crony(which failed miserably).

On the other hand, Madanon can't even control the action of one puny youth chief from their coalition. Let alone PuAS who succeed in their decades of "education" towards young conservative Malay. We should be grateful even PuAS not as crazy as this Akmal dude, but instead speak against him.

If you want to know the difference, just look if kucing issue any statement. Kucing normally do not meddle with such nonsense unless it went out of hand. This time kucing already issue statement multiple times and even met with KK Mart founder. Anyone with common sense will see Madanon couldn't contain the R&R issue and let it run wild because they are scare of any form of repercussion.



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post Apr 8 2024, 10:46 AM

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post Apr 8 2024, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 09:31 AM)
Why Bijan able to tame those guys? Even Moo Moo also can despite the suffering during COVID era. Only when Madanon in power all these ultra racist become the mainstream representation of Malay sentiment?

Salahan PuAS again ke?
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Because for the first time, Malaysia is not governed by Ultra Malay/Muslim political party. There are a lot of fear in conservative Malay group, Madani hand are tide when there are religious issue pop up. Must strike a balance instead of the easy way out of sided Malay like what BN and PN did on their respective ruling era.

Not blaming PAS but they faced a similar problem from non Muslim and East Malaysia and worried become opposition forever.

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post Apr 8 2024, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 8 2024, 04:27 AM)
https://www.facebook.com/verns.shoes

pity business owners in malaysia.
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MCMC keluar statement but as usual will be NFA again.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/702005

laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Apr 8 2024, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Apr 8 2024, 09:28 AM)
Moslems these days are all about clout.

Certainly not all, even my /k/ bikers gang pun tak bodoh macam ni.

For stocking case, yes it was clear cut. For Vern's case, bruh. If everything you yourself see it as such, then it has to be as such? Then I see these bunch of dimwits as low-life, short-sighted, dimwitted, classless, can?
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QUOTE(Dingdongcc @ Apr 8 2024, 10:28 AM)
Economic crisis on going and you see the leader who earns 6figure salary complaining about shoe design. Oh boy we're screwed
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post Apr 8 2024, 11:00 AM

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post Apr 8 2024, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 8 2024, 10:08 AM)
why PMX havent crushed this akmal
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 8 2024, 10:09 AM)
ANWAR SPINELESS LEADER
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either he really spineless

or ..he is kind of agree on this?
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post Apr 8 2024, 11:01 AM

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nobody is quoting his pas stupid X comment?
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QUOTE(toughguy @ Apr 8 2024, 10:48 AM)
Because for the first time, Malaysia is not governed by Ultra Malay/Muslim political party. There are a lot of fear in conservative Malay group, Madani hand are tide when there are religious issue pop up. Must strike a balance instead of the easy way out of sided Malay like what BN and PN did on their respective ruling era.

Not blaming PAS but they faced a similar problem from non Muslim and East Malaysia and worried become opposition forever.
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So you vote for a progressive party, they still gonna give into the extremist.

If only Ultra Malay/Muslim political party can tame the extremists then why not just vote PN and save the trouble?

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post Apr 8 2024, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 8 2024, 11:00 AM)
Is there still a clever people?
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politician all sneaky bastard 1 la ; they all "clever" ; just to make the right comment for teh "political correctness"

thats why never trust their word at all

only sohem go sembah politician like their god father

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post Apr 8 2024, 11:02 AM

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Then why does PAS act like idiots?
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post Apr 8 2024, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 10:43 AM)
Past BN is expert engineering R&R event but it's always controllable. Everyone know gangster like Ali Tinju and Jamal Jamban are tools to attack their political opponent, not really about riling up the people and move the country towards extremism or damaging the confidence of investor. Same goes to Lowyat event, it's just an excuse to setup the Mara Digital Mall to grow their own crony(which failed miserably).

On the other hand, Madanon can't even control the action of one puny youth chief from their coalition. Let alone PuAS who succeed in their decades of "education" towards young conservative Malay. We should be grateful even PuAS not as crazy as this Akmal dude, but instead speak against him.

If you want to know the difference, just look if kucing issue any statement. Kucing normally do not meddle with such nonsense unless it went out of hand. This time kucing already issue statement multiple times and even met with KK Mart founder. Anyone with common sense will see Madanon couldn't contain the R&R issue and let it run wild because they are scare of any form of repercussion.
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Dangerous la dude engineering this. We see the results to this day. Fine line between chaos and order. No one expert in controlling this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_attacks_...hip_in_Malaysia

Remember this? How close we were on the age back then till even KJ toned down his rhetoric. This is 2010 KJ yeah hehe

Generally i agree govt can do better now, but going back to the original conversation. It isnt because govt controls better that we see less during so and so time. I mean if you think about it for govt to control better as in ppl are afraid to start shit, they need to act harshly and firmly on actual incidents. If nothing untoward happens no incidents occurs, what to clamp down? If no clamp down, whats the evidence its controlled better? BMF was at its peak before 2020. After that the same actors changed their tune to Malaysian first. Same thing now. Forex was on some ppls lips, now.....

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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Apr 8 2024, 11:02 AM)
Then why does PAS act like idiots?
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PAS try to be relevant when their every single own state rule becoming more undeveloped and poor.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 11:04 AM)
Dangerous la dude engineering this. We see the results to this day. Fine line between chaos and order. No one expert in controlling this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_attacks_...hip_in_Malaysia

Remember this? How close we were on the age back then till even KJ toned down his rhetoric. This is 2010 KJ yeah hehe

Generally i agree govt can do better now, but going back to the original conversation. It isnt because govt controls better that we see less during so and so time. I mean if you think about it for govt to control better as in ppl are afraid to start shit, they need to act harshly and firmly on actual incidents. If nothing untoward happens no incidents occurs, what to clamp down? If no clamp down, whats the evidence its controlled better? BMF was at its peak before 2020. After that the same actors changed their tune to Malaysian first. Same thing now. Forex was on some ppls lips, now.....
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Church attack is clear cut act of violence and no political parties at that time will support such action. Nobody will gain benefit from it so it's not worth engineered.

KK mart issue on the other hand started as non violence movement of boycott. Government job should be simple - brand boycott as citizen movement and politician need to stay out of it so in case it get escalated we can handle them like Church attack (all political parties will condemn, so no further escalation or prolonged chaos). You can see Mcd and Starbuck boycott movement does not have such impact because it doesn't get escalated and no politician actively leading the movement. They just milk a bit then move on to next issue, only this Akmal guy seems to be addicted to become the champion of boycott and Madanon is enabling him.

First government failed to make their stance, then they charge KK Mart founder, then UMNO MKT declare support for Akmal's action. It end up with kucing statement multiple times and Akmal still not stopping. This is the most baffling part, Madanon not gaining any political benefits from Akaml's action yet they are afraid to move against him. This only shown the weakness of BMX and PH when come to the real taiko UMNO

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post Apr 8 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Apr 8 2024, 11:15 AM)
Church attack is clear cut act of violence and no political parties at that time will support such action. Nobody will gain benefit from it so it's not worth engineered.

KK mart issue on the other hand started as non violence movement of boycott. Government job should be simple - brand boycott as citizen movement and politician need to stay out of it so in case it get escalated we can handle them like Church attack (all political parties will condemn, so no further escalation or prolonged chaos). You can see Mcd and Starbuck boycott movement does not have such impact because it doesn't get escalated and no politician actively leading the movement. They just milk a bit then move on to next issue, only this Akmal guy seems to be addicted to become the champion of boycott and Madanon is enabling him.

First government failed to make their stance, then they charge KK Mart founder, then UMNO MKT declare support for Akmal's action. It end up with kucing statement multiple times and Akmal still not stopping. This is the most baffling part, Madanon not gaining any political benefits from Akaml's action yet they are afraid to move against him. This only shown the weakness of BMX and PH when come to the real taiko UMNO
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Festering lor before that. You forgot the rhetoric before hand? Thats the danger of "engineering"

Again i agree with you on govt ineptitude.

Earlier post was about the "effectiveness" of previous administrations.
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Apr 8 2024, 09:35 AM)
one play black face, another play red face.

why no correct own people who keep making this issue?
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Because correcting own ppl means you are going against the sentiment, so just act like dumbfk like BMX doing now. In the end he'll lose support from both side.
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post Apr 8 2024, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 8 2024, 11:19 AM)
Festering lor before that. You forgot the rhetoric before hand? Thats the danger of "engineering"

Again i agree with you on govt ineptitude.

Earlier post was about the "effectiveness" of previous administrations.
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Who festered it then? Shouldn't be BN because they are the ruling government, and PAS is still in bed with DAP that time (Pakatan Rakyat era). If it's just some random violence act from few bad apple it can be put down easily and it did.

This time it's totally different. Politician from the ruling coalition is taking helm of the movement and didn't tone down at all despite multiple violent acts. At least the past government are able to get their house in order and made a uniformed stance. In Madanon we have DAP and Akmal/UMNO fight against each other, BMX who only dare to sound after kucing, then East Malaysia, Jakim & polices who do their own things without knowing if it's government official stance.


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QUOTE(grape sunset @ Apr 8 2024, 12:16 AM)
Topkek even PN are more reasonable than dumno
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It has nothing to do with politics. JUst because one Bersatu man said so, everyone in Bersatu is like that. Same like that one dumb UNMO man laugh.gif
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