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 PcWork's Recable KSC-75 apreciation thread, show ur apreciation, review n comparison

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post Jun 10 2010, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jun 10 2010, 09:01 AM)
sibilance is the amount of 'ssss' present, especially on female vocals.. good phones produce them well..
and.. contrary to sieg.. i encountered a lot of headphones/earphones with harsh sibilance.. (some sony iem in the rm150 range have this, a lot of cheap phones in the rm100 or lower..) probably my tolerance is lower..
or probably im just comparing low end models..rclxub.gif
but i dont remember stock ksc75 have this problem.. recabled ones should be better as it is warmer..
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Exactly rolleyes.gif didn't I mentioned "seriously f*** up" biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(feiraron @ Jun 10 2010, 09:24 AM)
yeah thats what i meant by sibilance... sssssssssssssss, tttssss
overextension of the treble region perhaps.. when i say harsh i meant its piercing.. maybe i should just say there are sibilance..
and yeah i do believe my tolerance with the treble region is low.. i am really sensitive towards it...

dont worry no need to get all defensive guys.. Im not saying that this headphones is not good at all.. the sound is quite good, and for the price its unbeatable...
and the wire is freakin awesome, kudos to pcwork, the white-white looks awesome with the silver plugs.. ksc75 is never a beautiful headphones but with the wire at least its still something worth just looking at..
besides now i believe its not that piercing.. seriously some songs are that are not bearable to be heard before is now quite ok... its still present but better than before.. I thought ive read somewhere in this thread before that pcwork himself said it would be harsh out of the box, and i agree with him..
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let it run for 40-50 hours.
the treble shall tame down.
it's due to the driver is brand new.
and during my recable. i just check the connection with multimeter, and plug in to an ipod nano to inspect the sound signature for a few song.
so it is safe to say that ur driver is in brand new condition.

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post Jun 10 2010, 01:08 PM

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is there a difference in sound for recabling a brand new driver vs recablings a burned-in driver..?

wait.. i think i'll figure that out myself later.. smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jun 10 2010, 01:08 PM)
is there a difference in sound for recabling a brand new driver vs recablings a burned-in driver..?

wait.. i think i'll figure that out myself later.. smile.gif
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recable a burn in driver, immediately u can spot a huge different.
recabling a brand new driver, u need sometime to let the driver run in.
though eventually after sometime. both unit will sound the same.

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post Jun 10 2010, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jun 10 2010, 01:16 PM)
got..
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recable a burn in driver, immediately u can spot a huge different.
recabling a brand new driver, u need sometime to let the driver run in.
though eventually after sometime. both unit will sound the same.
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i thought so too.. but..
just wondering since there is this thread, about how different burnin affect the presentation. quite an interesting read.

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/495812...wo-unique-iem-s

i do believe.. even tho they might sound different at first.. eventually once the driver have smoothen-up.. it will sound the same according to material specs... but..

.. im just thinking, for recabled version.. since both cable have different.. harmonics.. (sound character, current, volt, impedance.. etc etc..)..
since one was initially burned using different specs.. not achievable without the cable..
would it have a slightly different sound later? hmm.gif

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post Jun 10 2010, 02:18 PM

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hm..
just from my experience. i not sure it is accurate or not. but that's what i feel.

that after recable, the driver moves differently after recable. which it reproduce the deeper bass part.
but
eventually after longer time, both sounds no different to my ear.


at first, with stock cable. say it burn in as midbass- mid - midtreble -treble more. then after recable, it still need sometime to let the driver to fully perform as there are some region that it doesn't produce sound before. like lower bass, or higher extention.
regarding the micro detail, it only will shows up after the driver is fully burn in and the driver is well intergrated with the new cable.

but eventually after the driver is loosen up. it don't really shows a very very different, unless the user is using it to hear some vocal song only. then it will sound very much different with a unit that the user hears all variety of song.


Above statement, is just my point of view.

some headphones, like grado.
when before run in, the bass is seriously tight, and treble is hot.
so when i recable it, it opens up even more treble. which as result it make the sound much more harsh than stock cable.
that's why i recommend grado user to burn in the headphone good enough before recable.

but ksc75. brand new recable already can shows improvement in the sound. hence i do it.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 10 2010, 02:19 PM
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post Jun 10 2010, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jun 10 2010, 02:18 PM)
hm..
just from my experience. i not sure it is accurate or not. but that's what i feel.

that after recable, the driver moves differently after recable. which it reproduce the deeper bass part.
but
eventually after longer time, both sounds no different to my ear.
at first, with stock cable. say it burn in as midbass- mid - midtreble -treble more. then after recable, it still need sometime to let the driver to fully perform as there are some region that it doesn't produce sound before. like lower bass, or higher extention.
regarding the micro detail, it only will shows up after the driver is fully burn in and the driver is well intergrated with the new cable.

but eventually after the driver is loosen up. it don't really shows a very very different, unless the user is using it to hear some vocal song only.  then it will sound very much different with a unit that the user hears all variety of song.
Above statement, is just my point of view.

some headphones, like grado.
when before run in, the bass is seriously tight, and treble is hot.
so when i recable it, it opens up even more treble. which as result it make the sound much more harsh than stock cable.
that's why i recommend grado user to burn in the headphone good enough before recable.

but ksc75. brand new recable already can shows improvement in the sound. hence i do it.
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thx 4 d info.. that clears a lot of anxiety.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 04:11 PM

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Hi I am interested in getting a brand new recabled ksc75, who should I contact? Hope to get me some info.

If there is any seller here, do PM me for pricing. smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 04:33 PM

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u need to get a brand new ksc75 first..
then send it to PcWork for him to recable..
his standard rate is rm65 (disclaimer here, if not changed yet).. not including postage..
but for u need to pay rm70.. bcoz i charge rm5 for info.. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jun 10 2010, 04:33 PM)
u need to get a brand new ksc75 first..
then send it to PcWork for him to recable..
his standard rate is rm65 (disclaimer here, if not changed yet).. not including postage..
but for u need to pay rm70.. bcoz i charge rm5 for info.. rclxm9.gif
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RM5 for the info.. lol...
I PM him adi, waiting for his reply if got stock I can go and get it from him, really tempting to try out this headphone since so many nice review. Currently using Sony MDR-EX85, good at bass and high, mid way lacking.. a noob choice.. zzz..


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a poison thread... whistling.gif tongue.gif

PcWork's Recable KSC-75 user report in. cool.gif
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post Jun 12 2010, 12:13 AM

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lol.. how's ur KSC75? u got it quite sometime already..

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post Jun 14 2010, 04:46 PM

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Is it me or the new KSC75 recabled ver. that I got last week is better then the old KSC75 recabled that I got last year overall?Soundstage has been improved,mids becomes nicer and the sound separation been be heard much clearer o_O
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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Jun 14 2010, 04:46 PM)
Is it me or the new KSC75 recabled ver. that I got last week is better then the old KSC75 recabled that I got last year overall?Soundstage has been improved,mids becomes nicer and the sound separation been be heard much clearer o_O
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.. pcwork hath lvl'd up in recabling? blink.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Jun 14 2010, 04:46 PM)
Is it me or the new KSC75 recabled ver. that I got last week is better then the old KSC75 recabled that I got last year overall?Soundstage has been improved,mids becomes nicer and the sound separation been be heard much clearer o_O
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jun 14 2010, 05:15 PM)
.. pcwork hath lvl'd up in recabling?  blink.gif
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opps... i did a few improvement...... merely on skill and tools that making them. and some minor improvement in technique and accuracies when soldering them.
material wise still the same. except some very very minor tweak in soldering lead...

This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 14 2010, 05:51 PM
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post Jun 14 2010, 07:49 PM

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Haha. Does that mean that my recabled KSC75 needs another round of recabling? tongue.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 08:01 PM

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yeah.. same here... need another round of recabling ar?
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post Jun 14 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(ArianneG @ Jun 14 2010, 07:49 PM)
Haha. Does that mean that my recabled KSC75 needs another round of recabling? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jun 14 2010, 08:01 PM)
yeah.. same here... need another round of recabling ar?
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hitman is one of the earliest batch KSc75 that he bought about 2-3 years ago.

the ksc75 u both has is very very new. it's the latest one.

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jun 14 2010, 08:01 PM)
yeah.. same here... need another round of recabling ar?
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aik.. ini punya.. siap men witchcraft sihir2.. maw recable squared jugak?
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PcWork, looking forward for the day when i received mine. Can't wait for the day come. thumbup.gif

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