Orang kaya no need to worry about no subsidy

Thanks anthony loke

"Toy" for the rich.

Why should the majority of people subsidize rich people?

Rich people = less tax for them
Poor/Middle people = more tax for them.

-.- So much kemadanian terserlah here....

Lol

Dey! Orang miskin tolong jangan dengki orang kaya lah.

There might be low cost EV in the future.

Ni bukan dengki.
Tapi hakikat.

It is illogical for rich people to be taxed less than the unfortune people.

also dispense with the minimum 100K ..

This EV for the rich mentality has to stop lah.

This is the only time our normal people can finally afford our dream of super/hypercar acceleration experience without spending Ferrari or Lamborghini money. Which we all know we die and reincarnated still wont be able to afford one.

This post has been edited by Boy96: Mar 31 2024, 01:07 PM

Well, Dolphin isn't that expensive, same like the new MGs, heck, I heard the Chery E5 is selling in droves, too.

But sub 100k EVs will have to wait till Perodua/Proton..

How does a 200k to near 300k Tesla is for the "rich" when entry level c class and 3 series is right there in price

Some people is just out of touch

Vehicle insurance got cheaper or not since road tax dah cheaper kan?

Good. Finally, this road tax will be sorted out.

It would be a disaster if they introduce sub 100k ev now. Our public charging infrastructure would simply collapse.

Suzuki jimmy for example
ICE 1.5 N/A
4x4
Asking price
😂 😂

In the next 10 years, EV will be for the poor people while ICE will be for rich people.

EV roadtax should be cheaper for 2 reasons

1. if u wanna encourage people to buy EV
2. roadtax = emission...low emission = cheap roadtax...we should stop charging by CC or HP

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Mar 31 2024, 01:32 PM

Sorry to burst your delusion.
Normal people need reliable car to join daily jam to work and back.

Hypercar acceleration is not a dream of the masses who need sub 100K models.

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Mar 31 2024, 01:28 PM

Yup.
But currently EV is RICH man's toy.
China EV companies giving deep discount up to USD7k but Malaysia not getting it!

EV are heavier than ICE so more propensity to damage the roads. Why lower road tax than ICE?

Subsidy is by 10k 20k 30k 50k
Road tax is like...1k 2k
And every car is paying by it cc

Apa lu ckp

Btw. I am still waiting pbe to call me abt my incoming winning Tesla

This post has been edited by taitianhin: Mar 31 2024, 01:35 PM

Insurance how ler ? Make it cheaper for EV lar

This one should just keep quite about it. Current rates are ok. Because overseas all their insurance hike kaw2 for EV's due to them being easily total loss even at slightest damage which hit the batteries

Cant say much until it's actually announced.
That said, if they made ev tax cheaper by making icev tax more expensive, then they are being unfair to marhaen since there's no economical ev options plus the still poor ev infrastructure.

If they just make ev tax low, then they are missing out on revenue that can be used to improve ev infrastructure. Summore, when ev finally gain mass adoption, they would have to restructure the tax again. Not particularly a hard thing to do, just not elegant.

Not a tax expert but i would guess it's better to implement rebate, discount, or tax return for ev, structure a sensible tax for ev without messing with icev tax until the time comes.
More complex implementation, but much more flexible at a glance.

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: Mar 31 2024, 01:44 PM

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Source also don't have.

nice initiative

hopefully just rm10 cheaper than ICE

Government trying to encourage EV adoption.

In return people use less fuel. Less fuel less subsidy, less subsidy leak more savings in long term

but i smell a catch to it.. those high hp and torque >1.5 turbo ice equivalent... sure as expensive..

Road tax in MY should be to repair the road, more heavy or bigger vehicle pays more for maintenance, but EV being more heavy and more powerful, which destroys the road faster pays less? What type of logic is this?hhha

Petrol subsidy going to be withdrawn, to benefit EV, now road tax also benefit EV?

Possible EV roadtax

5 seat sedan - RM 30

7 seat SUV - RM 50

9 seat SUV- RM 70

???

Possible EV roadtax

5 seat sedan - RM 30

7 seat SUV - RM 50

9 seat SUV- RM 70

???

Should be a lot cheaper.

Now they encourage you use mah

Chagan Lumin

Ponies : 48 HP
Battery : 27.99 kWh
Weight : 945 kg
Range : 301 km

I want to use this go and back from work and pasar malam / pagi / petang Genting.
How much my roadtax?

Is this the Perodua EV? Can I get yellow color?

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Mar 31 2024, 02:23 PM

Luckily uncle is rich in Singapore, poor in Malaysia.

Continue blaming rich, uncle continue my spending in Singapore.

Timely announcement.

Don't want later MG4 Xpower RM159K have to pay road tax same as Ferrari

This post has been edited by Mixo Mania: Mar 31 2024, 02:13 PM

If like this then EV mmg for the rich la.
Since b40 cannot afford and the charge infra pun not there.
Mmg for the rich. So tax the cars appropriately.

Tax based on horsepower la

Biggest user of fuel subsidy is logistics and industry.
Drivers aren’t the biggest guzzler.
That said I rather they just float the price of fuel.

Alasan jer.
If government say poor get no roadtax for any type of car.
You can see those poor a lot better car than the uncle

Makes sense now. To help ev adoption. It will not make sense to make it more expensive if we want to move to ev

Many old car is not safe on the road.
But we don’t have the scrap car law, and BN tried before, but kena push back.
So adopt new EV is the best. Encourage car user to change their old car.

This post has been edited by xiaojohn: Mar 31 2024, 02:20 PM

real or fake
our roadtax structure is known to be outdated AF

Cheaper than 20 linggit?

to make people do something, it is either force or incentivize
are we going towards renewables? seems so, with solar and ev subsidies

ICE is getting subsidies in fuel prices too, and if fuel/gas cost go up it will burden the country more

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PH (PKR+DAP) also fell for the EV Scam started by CCP China in the 2000s, in order for CCP China to overthrow ICE-V technology which was then dominated by Western and Japanese automakers - similar to the Covid-19 Scamdemic.
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Actually its name is Lesen. Kenderaan Motor or licence for owning a motorized vehicle paid to RTD. It is not a tax actually. Only people call it road tax. You can check in myjpj app.

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You mean cheaper Chinese copycat cars.?, eg BYD Seal is a copycat of Tesla Model 3 and Xiaomi SU7 is a copycat of Porsche Taycan.
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push for charging station 1st.....

EV definitely it will be based on kW.

my thoughts too

the reason for the road tax is to build, improve and maintain the infrastructure..( unless i am mistaken).. so the heavier the vehicle, the chances of damage is higher… take lorries as an example… but because of public services, their taxes won’t be too high… if for private vehicles, am sure it’s high..
coming back to EV, i think the cc vs weight should be taken into account while computing…

actually /k really thinking ev road tax gonna be higher than ICE? government is pushing for ev, of course it will be cheaper

Now can Bbbzzz Bbzzz more...
Bbbzzzz. Bbzzzzz >>>>. Vrrooomm vrrrommm

got another way.

dont be poor

next headache more people stealing power

EV will not be rich only toy when P1/P2 start producing , allowed <100k EV enter and ron95 cap removed

it will be become like china which most of taxi and Didi is EV as petrol is more expensive

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 31 2024, 05:29 PM

I think this will be easier to trace compared to those smuggle diesel at the border

what if price of petrol crash once over supply?

America still keeping huge reserves and Malaysia got plenty untap oil which China want to sapu

This post has been edited by h@ksam: Mar 31 2024, 07:19 PM

EV adoption is to "workaround" to current high petrol price .. but Malaysia is a bit awkward as our main electricity source still using gas ,coal and fossil fuel instead of nuclear reactor

if petrol crash then ma good lor

whoever bought EV ; continue charge with electricity la
whoever remain on ICE ; can get cheaper petrol and doesnt burden on gov due to subsidy

BUT our ringgit still kind of correlating with crude oil price ..so you need to foresee ringgit will go holland if crude oil crash

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 31 2024, 07:43 PM

Kalau tak da duit, beli Axia je. Road tax kan RM90. Fuel sebulan RM200 je.
Kalau tak da duit, jangan la denggi T20, be humble, learn from them, grow with them then become a T20 yourself.

The tax structure it's been there for decades, just only EV cars are new tech hence need restructure of the tax.
NETR are one of the EV perks, join EV lar if you able to when the price is lowered after 2025.
You can prepare and brace the future when your times is come.

There is nothing to complain about.

That’s true. Thanks for pointing out!

The mentality that people don't have the right to understand things has to stop lah.

EV in Malaysia is bad for the environment.

EV batteries are really pretty bad and won't last long.


Using low occupancy EV is a bad idea. EVs are much heavier than normal cars and will likely damage roads if more and more of them are present.

Accidents involving EVs are much more serious due to their weight and battery fires.


If you're talking about electrical train, or public transport, then yes, EV is good.

This post has been edited by jayakumarsc2: Mar 31 2024, 07:53 PM

EV car heavier and induce higher load on road therefore will require higher maintenance… so logically shall incur higher road tax …

Correct

Its still for the rich until they get rid of the stupid 100k price cap

Hybrid get ntg as usual

Encourage more new EV in FUTURE to reduce petrol subsidiary. Good move.

but less fortunate people doesn't even pay tax in the first place

fossil fuel generate electricity...that charges EV...how is the Road Tax lower? lulz. coal summore.

2 brain cell

Power generation tak Guna fossil fuel? Bodo

Protecting T20 with expensive EVs...

petrol car comsumed 12000x more subsidy than EV

ev below 70k got?

anyway now ev used car value shit.

But 85% of 2023 irb collection from T20 wor.

EV is right move.... So lower tax as incentive does make sense ......

need to wait 2026, 2025 perodua start selling ev

I wonder how tough these EV being built but while majority mocking tin Milo maivi aksia etc.

previously it is called Road Tax. only when they try to convert to malay word the word license comes about.
btw, how old are you? never hear the word road tax before?

It has always been Lesen Kereta Motor or Lesen Kenderaan Motor, officially. Unofficial name, of course la road tax.


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Kesian ppl like you unable to think forward. Only stuck in current.

Should I pity you instead since you are unable to live in today and insist to live in a future that you wish to think/imagine?

The rich funded all their campaigns for a reason one mar....

Else, how to further monopolize and simply raise prices whenever they see fit?

Yes please continue to live in your own coconut shell

Agree, keep living in your thinking/mind then.

Poor are those who have eyes but cannot see.

Groups that complain:

1) Poor and won't buy EV
2) Poor but want buy EV

Groups that doesn't complain:

1) Rich but won't buy EV
2) Rich and want buy EV

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AFAIK, in English, it's called Motor Vehicle License, as per the Road Transport Act 1987, but people shortened it to "road tax".
....... IOW, it's a license to own a motor vehicle, not a tax, similar to Driving License, not a "drive tax". .......

http://www.commonlii.org/my/legis/consol_act/rta1987187/ - Road Transport Act 1987
Motor vehicle licences

15. (1) No person shall use or cause or permit to be used a motor vehicle in respect of which there is not in force a motor vehicle licence granted under this Act: ...


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No ler.

The poor groups in Malaysia that complain is mainly because if the poor are forced by EV mandates (implemented by CCP China, liberal US states, the EU, etc, eg will be in force from 2035) to buy budget EV cars, they will be forced to pay much higher prices, eg the budget Wuling Hongguang Mini EV at about RM30k (= tax-exempt price) when they could have bought the budget Perodua Axia 1.0 ICE-V car for only RM24k (= with tax) which is twice the horsepower, topspeed, range and one-third larger in size; ...
.... and the mid-budget BYD Seagull EV at about RM80k (= tax-exempt price) when they could have bought the mid-budget Perodua Myvi 1.3 ICE-V car for only RM46k (= with tax).

The tax-exempted BYD Seagull EV car costs more in Malaysia than in China because of shipping/logistic costs, costs of converting from LHD to RHD, etc.

If the EV tax exemption is discontinued on 1 Jan 2026, those budget EV cars will cost the poor Malaysians even more.
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It's also stupid of the richer Malaysians to pay much more buying EV cars instead of ICE-V cars, eg the tax-exempted BYD Dolphin EV = RM101k vs RM86k for the taxed Proton X50 ICE-V.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 7 2024, 12:35 AM

less tax?
income tax lesser ker?