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Investment RM437k condo @ 474sqf in Kingswoodz Bukit Jalil?, Purchase for investment, good idea?
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Cavatzu
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Mar 24 2024, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(santosh94 @ Mar 24 2024, 05:56 AM) Property by Exim Close to Pavilion Bukit Jalil & LRT Awan Besar station. Covered walkway to LRT. Plan is for investment either rental or Airbnb. Agent says that area can fetch about RM1800 rental, is that true? I hear the traffic jam is massive and can risk oversupply in that area. But then there's close proximity to highways, amenities and public transport, so would that counter the oversupply or traffic? From another thread I read that the price per sqft is quite high at about RM900 per sqft but isn't that normal already over there? Not sure if freehold or LH, and also about the parking - waiting for agent to update. From my checking, i think this condo is the closest to an lrt station in BJ. What are your suggestions? Is this a good move? Or are there better options for the same price range? I think you answered your question. What can you buy with 900 psf? Actually that’s most places in KV and certainly subsale in blue chip areas. The question is do you see value at that price in Bukit Jalil when you have so many other alternatives?
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Cavatzu
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Mar 24 2024, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(santosh94 @ Mar 24 2024, 09:32 AM) True. What would be your suggestion? Which areas within similar budget right now in KV or even outside it in general Selangor by itself? Do you recommend rumahselangorku projects? I hear got a requirement of minimum number of own stay first before can start renting out. You go from almost 1k psf property to rumah Selangor. Work out your affordability and what you want out of the property. All I’ll say is this - I will only pay close to 1k psf for properties which can attract expats or is an old established monied address. You are paying for the increased costs in materials + labour due to Covid. I think there’s a lot of units around the area maybe 200 psf cheaper. This post has been edited by Cavatzu: Mar 24 2024, 10:35 AM
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Cavatzu
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Mar 24 2024, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(dyrus @ Mar 24 2024, 10:43 AM) 1700 unit squeeze in small piece land outside the city centre selling 1k psf  this one really looking for water fish..but willing buyer willing seller nothing we can say I know man. Sometimes you see a child wanting to touch fire, do you warn them or do you let them find out for themselves? If you warn and they still touch then it’s on them and not just ignorance.
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Cavatzu
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Mar 24 2024, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Mar 24 2024, 04:05 PM) Lyn has the most balanced views of KV properties amongst multiple discussion websites. Potential buyers should read. It's not surprised after x years owners will complain the same thing here. Then you may tell him why didn't he/she read your posts x years ago. Let them learn ([painfully?] with their hard earned money). This the only way they grow.  People just complain that you’re being negative. When in actuality a single sarcastic comment is a distillation of the state of the economy, the political scene and the free market reality. I wish such a thing as a buyer’s agent existed which is a fee service with no conflict of interest for people wishing to buy property. Our market is all purely on the sell side. This post has been edited by Cavatzu: Mar 24 2024, 04:22 PM
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Cavatzu
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Mar 24 2024, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(santosh94 @ Mar 24 2024, 07:01 PM) The reason being that I'm looking into a place for investment. Be It rumah selangor or a solid option within 450k, I'm open to it. But need to have confidence la. I've decided to drop the idea of this place thanks to the input from your guys. Would there be any recommended list of steps one would take to ensure the location and the project is worthwhile? If you qualify for affordable housing then most of the time, it’s worth it as it is discounted or subsidised from median price of the location. Downside is you have a smaller pool of tenants and it can be hit or miss.
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Cavatzu
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Mar 24 2024, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 24 2024, 07:10 PM) TS, don't rush to buy something now. Look around you. Everything is getting expensive. Subsidies removal, weakening ringgit and economy. This only means people will have less money to spend. This only means that property prices will go down. I’d just counter this by saying that anything new being built under these more challenging conditions will be expensive. Something that exists and perhaps hasn’t seen a lot of demand should be priced alright. I don’t think many here truly appreciate the power of an oversupplied property market when the reverse is true in almost all other major economies.
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Cavatzu
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Mar 25 2024, 04:19 AM
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Mar 24 2024, 07:48 PM) The thing about properties is that people don't really have to buy it. Unlike food or petrol, if their price goes up, people still have to pay. Not for properties. In an inflationary but good economy, I will agree to your counter. But we are in an inflationary but bad economy. EPF money which flooded the market is now gone. Government is unlikely to allow another round of withdrawal. Look at how many threads complaining about how expensive things are. If you roll back 10 years, look at how many BBB vs the DDD nowadays. Looks to me that people have finally come to the realization that they are paying exorbitant prices for a dream of an ever growing asset. It’s culturally ingrained to purchase a property once you graduate whether its own stay or investment. People are very insecure about their retirement but may be a bit misguided too. I mean the TS was asking whether to buy a 900 psf box or affordable housing with max price tag of 400k. Developers know affordability is capped for younger buyers which is probably their main lifeline now so they sell you a very fancy box.
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Cavatzu
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Mar 25 2024, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Mar 25 2024, 10:18 AM) Actually property is a necessity as everyone needs a place to stay. However buying is not a necessity as rental is the other option. If it was not for rumahwip/ rumah selangorku/ affordable housing, the rental market will be much higher as landlords will be taking advantage of very high property prices. The government in its "wisdom" has been churning out affordable housing and therefore stifling the rental market. Thus the property market is in a difficult spot. The smart investor won't buy as when he does his homework, the returns does not make sense (putting more into EPF is a much better option) - rental yield and capital appreciation both also not sensible. The first time home buyer should go for affordable housing as it will meet his needs (place to stay) and the capital appreciation in 5 to 10 years will be good once he decides to upgrade. Foreigners have been dissuaded from coming in due to stricter MM2H requirements plus the property markets in their own home countries are bad (except for Singapore where rentals and prices for properties are very high which is a significant push factor for the Johor property market - also weak RM). Property sales generate a lot of revenue for the government in stamp duties, income tax and real property gains tax. Which was why the old BN government encouraged it until common folks felt left out. The past few govts have not done the property industry any favours. I really can't see what can be the catalyst for the next property bull run except for government intervention eg. slash stamp duties, slash RPGT and most importantly easy 2 generation property loans. But kudos to TS for dodging the bullet in BJ. There is a cheaper new alternative in PJ. To be fair, the government has in a way been stifling property prices not just with affordable housing but also approving massive densities of units. They also put in HOC and the like. Even if you don’t bring in forex, people can see the dollar amounts of properties in Singapore, Vancouver or Sydney etc is crazy high. Malaysia already has one of the cheapest property markets in Asia given the quality. You just need good governance and business friendly policies for a few terms then the prosperity will grow. All the racial nonsense needs to stop and potential unlocked then you’ll see your boom. This post has been edited by Cavatzu: Mar 26 2024, 06:07 AM
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