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 Should nons tax money, being used for tongkat

tongkat money should only be used to support tongkat plans, agree?
 
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post Mar 11 2024, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(hs_clover @ Mar 11 2024, 09:38 AM)
look at the bright side. At least there is no discount rate for bumi tax rate
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of course there is, do you know zakat is tax deductable?
and duit zakat only goes to their people
while non punya tax is shared among everyone
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 11 2024, 05:53 AM)
Actually, that’s an excellent observation.

I trust you are also applying the same criteria as a Malay person onto a Non?
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Mar 11 2024, 07:59 AM)
Many would comprehension & mental shutdown at this laugh.gif
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Mental shutdown? You wish. Most Malay who instigate against other races are politicians, they do so to get easy votes because its easier work off peoples fears than their compassion.

Problem is that it works too well, because it gets even the nons up and arms towards the average Malay, not realizing they’re just a pawn to help get these politicians re-elected.

Hence the wider the gap between the two races become.

Second point, if you think being arrogant and angry towards the Malay is the solution then I’m here to tell you hitting your head against a wall will be better use of your time.

As much your ego would like you to think that the Malay needs you and that this country’s economy rides on the shoulder of your race, the Malays dont see it that way. So to create real peace, understanding and harmony, you need to put in real effort to live with them, because you are the one at a disadvantage not them. As hard as that is for your ego to swallow.

Most nons here dont even interact with Malays in their day to day life. They only get info about Malay from Sin Chew Daily, Facebook or their closed circle of nons friends. So they assume all Malay think alike and vent their anger and frustration towards them all.

Empathy, kindness and compassion is the way, isnt that what Buddha taught you?

QUOTE(zenoboy111 @ Mar 11 2024, 10:28 AM)
To be exact its towards our Malay leaders, who are mostly making these stupid decisions.
2am I already slept and I thought our discussion ended.
Yet you are still butthurt wanting nons money to be used for bumi plans.

You treat other nons here like pendatang but we are Malaysians, not immigrants as someone pointed out.
You ask us to fk off from this country while still depending on us.

You reply with a selfish post about having emphathy for others but you are a hypocrite who does not practice that at all.
Tell me which part in your other posts support equality of all Malaysians?

You only think about bumis, and that is why Malaysia will never go anywhere the way it is right now (and has been).
One day our ringgit become useless because of all the shites happening, dont cry mother father if your anak/cucu of all bumis live in poverty again.

What did you all gain in the end and at what cost?

Was it worth it? As a human I dont respect you one bit
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Feeling is mutual…

QUOTE(xCM @ Mar 11 2024, 10:29 AM)
Is that a statement or opinion from yourself?
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Its a fact.

QUOTE(differ @ Mar 11 2024, 10:43 AM)
China? Have you actually been there before or lived there before?

Minorities in China get special privileges, from birth, to education, borrowing money, less taxation, etc., that Han chinese don't get.

For example last time when there was 1-Child Policy, the minorities were exempt from the rule.
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Cool story, mana sos?
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:04 PM

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post Mar 11 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ixis @ Mar 11 2024, 10:07 AM)
If all non move to S&S see bumi die or not .
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Lulz. Funny. If all migrate outside Malaysia also bumi still steady no problemo.
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:01 PM)
Mental shutdown? You wish. Most Malay who instigate against other races are politicians, they do so to get easy votes because its easier work off peoples fears than their compassion.

Problem is that it works too well, because it gets even the nons up and arms towards the average Malay, not realizing they’re just a pawn to help get these politicians re-elected.

Hence the wider the gap between the two races become.

Second point, if you think being arrogant and angry towards the Malay is the solution then I’m here to tell you hitting your head against a wall will be better use of your time.

As much your ego would like you to think that the Malay needs you and that this country’s economy rides on the shoulder of your race, the Malays dont see it that way. So to create real peace, understanding and harmony, you need to put in real effort to live with them, because you are the one at a disadvantage not them. As hard as that is for your ego to swallow.

Most nons here dont even interact with Malays in their day to day life. They only get info about Malay from Sin Chew Daily, Facebook or their closed circle of nons friends. So they assume all Malay think alike and vent their anger and frustration towards them all.

Empathy, kindness and compassion is the way, isnt that what Buddha taught you?
Feeling is mutual…
Its a fact.
Cool story, mana sos?
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Meh... just another long winded post on blaming nons on everything but nothing at yourself.

You said it yourself, politicians instigate against other races. But you never see the malays being instigated with r&r against nons, and only see nons retaliating as the ones full of hatred. Go to malay socmed sites, see all the puak pendatang semakin berani, sampai bila kita melayu nak sabar dengan puak kafir laknat ni, cina dah kurang ajar dengan melayu and all that.

If you think the solution is instigating r&r against nons then blame them somemore for the r&r instigations, then you're far more stupider than i thought.

Malays like you only thinks nons do not interact with malays nor get their via sinchew etc? That already showed your ignorance. Bodoh sombong la tu lol

That's what you learned from being a muslim?

This post has been edited by bigwolf: Mar 11 2024, 12:28 PM
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:30 PM

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In reality, bumi tax payer number is more & more tax payable than non.
K/tards always delusional...

Majority bumi who work in govt, GLCs & multinational company already make compulsory tax monthly deduction.. Basically around 70-80% of tax that LHDN collected..

The one who work in private sector & own business, the one who declare low income & keep run to pay tax...
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:01 PM)
Mental shutdown? You wish. Most Malay who instigate against other races are politicians, they do so to get easy votes because its easier work off peoples fears than their compassion.

Problem is that it works too well, because it gets even the nons up and arms towards the average Malay, not realizing they’re just a pawn to help get these politicians re-elected.

Hence the wider the gap between the two races become.

Second point, if you think being arrogant and angry towards the Malay is the solution then I’m here to tell you hitting your head against a wall will be better use of your time.

As much your ego would like you to think that the Malay needs you and that this country’s economy rides on the shoulder of your race, the Malays dont see it that way. So to create real peace, understanding and harmony, you need to put in real effort to live with them, because you are the one at a disadvantage not them. As hard as that is for your ego to swallow.

Most nons here dont even interact with Malays in their day to day life. They only get info about Malay from Sin Chew Daily, Facebook or their closed circle of nons friends. So they assume all Malay think alike and vent their anger and frustration towards them all.

Empathy, kindness and compassion is the way, isnt that what Buddha taught you?
Feeling is mutual…
Its a fact.
Cool story, mana sos?
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What fact? Then you show me the readings/ written. Quote newspaper or media or anything tokok without claims also ok.

Wow you asked someone for SOS but when fact check you, you just give me 'it's a fact'... Hahahaha u wot m8
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:20 AM)
Not if your country was ruled by colonial power that sapped if of its resources, disturbed the local population by bringing in non-indigenous people here for profit, and created a generational socio-economic imbalance that would take hundred of years to rectify.

I think if I was you I would feel shame too for not knowing my history, not thick skin like you… kek
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Yup exactly the kind of r&r narrative pushed in malay socmed to instigate hate.

But go and say nons arrogant and angry towards malays pulak.

Fuarkkk man you can't make this up laugh.gif
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:01 PM)
Cool story, mana sos?
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http://nl.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/zggk/zt...616_2907688.htm
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(xCM @ Mar 11 2024, 12:37 PM)
What fact? Then you show me the readings/ written. Quote newspaper or media or anything tokok without claims also ok.

Wow you asked someone for SOS but when fact check you, you just give me 'it's a fact'... Hahahaha u wot m8
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That's his pattern in /k

Melayu ultra but keep pretending that he is a non

Almost everyday will have some racist post from him
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:55 PM

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post Mar 11 2024, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:20 AM)
Not if your country was ruled by colonial power that sapped if of its resources, disturbed the local population by bringing in non-indigenous people here for profit, and created a generational socio-economic imbalance that would take hundred of years to rectify.

I think if I was you I would feel shame too for not knowing my history, not thick skin like you… kek
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Not every non came here cos of the British.

Many of our ancestors came here way before that, including Peranakan, Kristang, etc.

Lol my family also were here before many UMNO goons' families like Zahid.
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post Mar 11 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Mar 11 2024, 12:19 PM)
Lulz. Funny. If all migrate outside Malaysia also bumi still steady no problemo.
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Short term not much impact but on long run the economy and others will start decrease.

If still continue with current trend attitude and political -corruption , standby become 3rd world as par of Africa
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post Mar 11 2024, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:01 PM)
Mental shutdown? You wish. Most Malay who instigate against other races are politicians, they do so to get easy votes because its easier work off peoples fears than their compassion.

Problem is that it works too well, because it gets even the nons up and arms towards the average Malay, not realizing they’re just a pawn to help get these politicians re-elected.

Hence the wider the gap between the two races become.

Second point, if you think being arrogant and angry towards the Malay is the solution then I’m here to tell you hitting your head against a wall will be better use of your time.

As much your ego would like you to think that the Malay needs you and that this country’s economy rides on the shoulder of your race, the Malays dont see it that way. So to create real peace, understanding and harmony, you need to put in real effort to live with them, because you are the one at a disadvantage not them. As hard as that is for your ego to swallow.

Most nons here dont even interact with Malays in their day to day life. They only get info about Malay from Sin Chew Daily, Facebook or their closed circle of nons friends. So they assume all Malay think alike and vent their anger and frustration towards them all.

Empathy, kindness and compassion is the way, isnt that what Buddha taught you?
Feeling is mutual…
Its a fact.
Cool story, mana sos?
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As I was reading the bold part of your reply, do you think Malay is economic capable now? Then why is NEP still there for? Keep wanting to take advantage of other race eventho already can drive the economy yourself? This just proof that you all just enjoy to take advantage of other race. Kek


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post Mar 11 2024, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Mar 10 2024, 09:22 PM)
nons is probably the most pannai in evading tax especially those business owner, buy car put under company, become company expenses, hence reducing the amount of tax to be paid. Household expenses also put as company expenses. After that create many small small empty shell company that is used to laundry the expenses, this is to laundry the expenses not laundry money already lol. Although they pay tax but they pay the most minimum to make it "looks good". As for those working in private sectors, of course u have to pay and can't evade.
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last time yes la can evade with the lower SME company tax with scale rate. now if u have any interco billing u need to declare it in form c, and prepare transfer pricing docs.
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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:20 AM)
Not if your country was ruled by colonial power that sapped if of its resources, disturbed the local population by bringing in non-indigenous people here for profit, and created a generational socio-economic imbalance that would take hundred of years to rectify.

I think if I was you I would feel shame too for not knowing my history, not thick skin like you… kek
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one may argue that we replaced the colonial power will another.... a political (elites) group pretending to be natives of the land.

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Mar 11 2024, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(differ @ Mar 11 2024, 01:22 PM)
Not every non came here cos of the British.

Many of our ancestors came here way before that, including Peranakan, Kristang, etc.

Lol my family also were here before many UMNO goons' families like Zahid.
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You'll be surprised some really thinks non malays only come to malaysia in the early 1900's and before that, the land was pure malay muslims only laugh.gif
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I just am still going to type MY TAX MONIES!!! As my right to do so
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Mar 11 2024, 02:38 PM)
You'll be surprised some really thinks non malays only come to malaysia in the early 1900's and before that, the land was pure malay muslims only  laugh.gif
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Mulut aje cakap love Malaysia, but don't even know our history.
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QUOTE(AlexRoss27 @ Mar 11 2024, 12:36 AM)
The Malays never asked for nons, they were brought here by the British against the wishes of the locals and they stayed on their good graces.

Every other country in Asia has treated non-natives horribly, look at China, India, Japan and etc. Yet you cry victim as if you are worse off than the Rohinyas…

You guys are the victim of your own ego, nothing more…
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in the past, those ppl from rural area needed tongkat to compete against nons i understand but until now bumi nowadays really needed the tongkat to continue to survive? Are they truly at a disadvantage compared against nons? else why not just level the playing field and treat everyone equally?

in what sense u think bumi should continue to get tongkat? their ancestor is not malay? land belong to bumi?




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