Mazda 3
Proton (almost all range)
Vios
City
Apa lagi as far as u concern? Care to enlighten?
Torsion beam (aka lorry) car
Torsion beam (aka lorry) car
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Feb 20 2024, 09:13 AM, updated 2y ago
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Mazda 3
Proton (almost all range) Vios City Apa lagi as far as u concern? Care to enlighten? |
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Feb 20 2024, 09:14 AM
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for the rear? mine is Proton multilink.
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Feb 20 2024, 09:15 AM
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Cobik typu R
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Feb 20 2024, 09:15 AM
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All A and B segment craps.
Wrv Hrv Corolla Cross |
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Feb 20 2024, 09:17 AM
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what is the point of this thread? list out all the car models with cheap torsion suspension?
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Feb 20 2024, 09:19 AM
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Light on wallet when having issues which seldom have...
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Feb 20 2024, 09:21 AM
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Wira use multilink. So you mean it's better drive than current Mazda 3?
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Feb 20 2024, 09:43 AM
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Feb 20 2024, 09:46 AM
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Prefer rear torsion beam setup , multilink wait till ur car got weird suspension noise then u need troubleshoot each multilink component 1 by 1
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Feb 20 2024, 09:48 AM
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Feb 20 2024, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(redondo88 @ Feb 20 2024, 09:21 AM) its not only suspension. Chassis improvement over time makes the difference... wira chassis flex more due to dated design and material metal/alloy/etcmy old honda with double wish bone still tahpau all the current torsion suspension cars |
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Feb 20 2024, 09:49 AM
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my accord is multilink but tcch is torsion beam..
i dont feel much difference except when going through road bumps diagonally. torsion beam is not lorry/truck, ladder frame is. |
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Feb 20 2024, 09:50 AM
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Peugeot 3008 also torsion beam but is tuned nicely for comfort. Taking corners is also nice. In doing so, traction control will kick in and cut engine power to stabilize the car. gobiomani liked this post
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Feb 20 2024, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(accordvtec @ Feb 20 2024, 09:48 AM) advantage in term of comfort and handling dont think so , it still depend on whole car overall setup .My zc32s rear torsion beam better comfort and handling still better then those rear multilink setup . terradrive liked this post
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Feb 20 2024, 09:53 AM
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if daily drive in KL traffic jam, u dont even have chance to feel any difference
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Feb 20 2024, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Feb 20 2024, 09:51 AM) advantage in term of comfort and handling dont think so , it still depend on whole car overall setup . yeah multilink mostly better handling. comfort is more about the suspension settingMy zc32s rear torsion beam better comfort and handling still better then those rear multilink setup . |
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Feb 20 2024, 09:58 AM
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buy car need consider is multilink or torsion beam...depend your budget, u want comfortable and handlling then you need folk out more money.
hornestly, for casual driver, not feel much difference This post has been edited by wong_86: Feb 20 2024, 09:59 AM |
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Feb 20 2024, 10:04 AM
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need to ask rear passenger bcuz if you are driver u wont feel much different
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Feb 20 2024, 10:05 AM
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leaf spring suspension baru is lorry
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Feb 20 2024, 10:08 AM
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got high taste, but low budget
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Feb 20 2024, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Feb 20 2024, 09:51 AM) advantage in term of comfort and handling dont think so , it still depend on whole car overall setup . not sure what's your point. it was universally known that multilink is much better than a torsion but that doesnt mean torsion cannot be engineered to give good handling and comfort although comparatively a multilink setup would still be better.My zc32s rear torsion beam better comfort and handling still better then those rear multilink setup . sure later you will bring out how peugeot use their torsion beam car to go rally bla bla bla but that wasn't my point. |
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Feb 20 2024, 10:52 AM
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The title fail. Lorry does not have torsion beam version at all. All are live axle.
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Feb 20 2024, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Feb 20 2024, 09:46 AM) Prefer rear torsion beam setup , multilink wait till ur car got weird suspension noise then u need troubleshoot each multilink component 1 by 1 i'm using a 11 year old jetta with multilink, all ok only.absorber will give the noise, just change absorber only settle. multilink is the best, but it's expensive and drives up the cost of the car. doesn't mean torsion beam is not good, just comparatively speaking, multilink still has the edge in terms of comfort and handling but normal people will not be so bothered about it. Torsion is still good enough and does a very decent job. But to me, it matters. This post has been edited by abhipraaya: Feb 20 2024, 11:03 AM |
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Feb 20 2024, 11:07 AM
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Feb 20 2024, 11:55 AM
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Both multilink and torsion beam also good suspensions.
Torsion Beam is cheaper and simpler setup for the manufacturer = more PROFITS for the manufacturer! $$$ Multilink is more expensive, complicated setup, takes more space. Nowadays, this premium setup are only found in bigger cars or higher variant cars. |
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Torsion and Multi-link diff league as Torsion is much cheaper to make..
Looks like manyak Torsion owner.. here..lolx This post has been edited by swanlover: Feb 20 2024, 12:38 PM |
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Feb 20 2024, 01:00 PM
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Feb 20 2024, 01:05 PM
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don't look down on Torsion Beam else all the M3 owners will hunt you down
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Feb 20 2024, 01:27 PM
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Torsion beams while cheaper for the manufacturer and average road user, but PITA to dismantled. Nearly the whole thing need to be dismantled and it is a very large set of things.
Normal average driver (like 95% of population) does not give a fucuk or rather does not even know whats a torsion beam. And with the improvement and developement on car chasis in year 2023A, damn thing is working quite well, comfort and motorsport friendly. If buy big brand Conti with torsion beam you wont even know it is. See all sub 1.5 racing series in our local motorsport scene, especially mybi cup, Jazz Cup , SAGA Megavalve, Vios cup car. Its not easy to drive those thing to the max. Due to torsion beam sharing road surface info on both side, they love smooth road surface extremely much. If u langgar gigantic dinosauric size hole at Jalan Pasir Gudang, force transfer will make sure the other side of the wheel feel it. Only the very power terpaling motorsport fighter can tame torsion beam, SAGA Cup car Sepang lap record is 2.44 and it is very difficult to reach that time. Renault Megane RS Trophy Edition is also torsion beam if not wrong, they broke lap record at Nurburgring. Average driver will not be able to tekan kona until feel the really knife edge difference on the open road. |
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QUOTE(swanlover @ Feb 20 2024, 09:13 AM) torsion beam is very common on A/B segments as well as MPVs (yeah even alphard/vellfire use torsion beam)corolla cross, torsion beam some conti lower end version, torsion beam (despite platform is capable of both torsion and multilink) lorry or pickup truck, they usually not torsion beam but they use leaf spring/live axel or 4-link live axels PS: proton some of them use multilink like X70, X90 and previously preve/suprima This post has been edited by MyProLife: Feb 20 2024, 01:32 PM |
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