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post Feb 19 2024, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Feb 19 2024, 12:25 PM)
The kris, Taming Sari... grants godlike skills, strength, speed and stamina to the wielder; hence was the reason of Hang Tuah's godhood.

Such irony for one to just handover the weapon back and surrender and be doomed to death when one can just take on the whole army, which Hang Jebat stole and revolt for revenge, just to be tricked (long story during confrontation battle) to handover the weapon back to Hang Tuah and be killed like a street dog.

Strange on why we Chinese would want to claim somebody with borrowed powers, deceitful and worst of all killing your own 'brother' that stood up for you as their role model.
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The story about Hang Jebat also not the same as Sejarah Melayu. In Sejarah Melayu, the one who rebelled against sultan was Hang Kasturi and not Hang Jebat.

Chinese not really want to claim but just sort of making jest about the whole myth of Hang Tuah as his name really sounds a bit Chinese.

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post Feb 19 2024, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Feb 19 2024, 11:03 AM)
It was said in Hokkien that Hang Tu Ah meant 'you eldest' and hang ji (aka jebat) meant 'you second'.

Story was similar to romance of 3 kingdoms when it comes to over exaggeration.
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Hang Jebat , Hang Lekiu all also no more ?
Hang Je-bat 二伯
Hang Le-kiu 二舅

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post Feb 19 2024, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Feb 19 2024, 11:30 AM)
The story about Hang Jebat also not the same as Sejarah Melayu. In Sejarah Melayu, the one who rebelled against sultan was Hang Kasturi and not Hang Jebat.
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What year? My time 20 years ago, the myth and history tallies about Hang Jebat being the traitor.

Nevertheless, there were many versions of the myth but all concludes only one thing... that Hang Tuah never betray the king despite being framed and be sentenced to death, and there is a verse that exclaims one should submit to every decision a king as to make.


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post Feb 19 2024, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Feb 18 2024, 07:18 PM)
https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...an-kuala-lumpur

"Kuala Lumpur yang asalnya kawasan perlombongan, kemudian berkembang menjadi kota perdagangan mempunyai sejarah panjang mengenai siapa sebenarnya yang membukanya, sama ada Yap Ah Loy, Sutan Puasa atau Raja Abdullah.

"Terserah kepada pakar sejarah untuk menentukannya," katanya.
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No computer or USB in the past. Its all based on belief only. But 1 thing for sure 2feidei people developed KL so advanced.
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post Feb 19 2024, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 18 2024, 07:07 PM)
UPM PhD : saya suka macam Mana tulis sejarah...suka hati saya lah
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upmphd: itu spegetti itali curicopy dari maggi mee malaysia.

upmphd: itu M1A1 tank curi dari proton saga. tengok nama pun tau. M1A1 = Malaysia Satu copy A1
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post Feb 19 2024, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Feb 18 2024, 07:13 PM)
Source mana lol
Last time claim sutan puasa
Then today claim abdullah hukum
Esok claim siapa lagi
Lol
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hang tuah buka KL?
atau King Lancelot yg buka KL?
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post Feb 19 2024, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Feb 19 2024, 12:37 PM)
What year? My time 20 years ago, the myth and history tallies about Hang Jebat being the traitor.

Nevertheless, there were many versions of the myth but all concludes only one thing... that Hang Tuah never betray the king despite being framed and be sentenced to death, and there is a verse that exclaims one should submit to every decision a king as to make.
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The whole myth of Hang Tuah was based on 2 books. Hikayat Hang Tuah is solely about him and his adventures. Its most famous story is the Hang Jebat amok in palace story. The same story is also mentioned in Sejarah Melayu but instead of Hang Jebat, it was Hang Kasturi who amok. Sejarah Melayu chronicles the whole story of rise and fall of Kesultanan Melaka. It’s the same myth where they say Parameswara was a descendant of Iskandar Zulkarnain which today some Malay historians say is not Alexander the Great because of his bisexuality. I had to read both books last time in school when I took Kesusasteraan Melayu as a subject.

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QUOTE(periuknasi @ Feb 19 2024, 12:45 PM)
hang tuah buka KL?
atau King Lancelot yg buka KL?
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Jon Snow buka KL lah!
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:12 PM

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Sejarah MY takbley pakai.. spin auta spin jaga maruah
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(pobox @ Feb 19 2024, 12:12 AM)
Yap Ah Loy was the Kapitan that controlled the Chinese immigrants, of which the whole immigrant community contributed to the development of KL.

So hard to acknowledge?

We can acknowledge Abdulah Hukum as the founder but cannot acknowledge YAL?
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do you see a Stesen LRT Yup Ah Loi?
is there a Stesen LRT Abdullah hukum?
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:20 PM

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hati tissue cannot take Chinese that develop malaysia. also they try to delete those chinese contributor and replace with unless oranges to make shoick sendiri.
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(laparwolf @ Feb 19 2024, 12:55 AM)
Penting ke siapa pengasas?

Macam debat tanah Israel Palestin lagi...
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yes, tolong return cheras to the refugis
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Feb 19 2024, 12:20 PM)
hati tissue cannot take Chinese that develop malaysia. also they try to delete those chinese contributor and replace with unless oranges to make shoick sendiri.
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batu caves developed by who? by ikan bakar sekinchan la
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(periuknasi @ Feb 19 2024, 01:19 PM)
do you see a Stesen LRT Yup Ah Loi?
is there a Stesen LRT Abdullah hukum?
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Got Jalan Yap Ah Loy but got Jalan Abdullah Hukum?
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(periuknasi @ Feb 19 2024, 01:21 PM)
batu caves developed by who? by ikan bakar sekinchan la
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the problem is hati tissue erase chinese contribution and label them as kongsi gelap. lol that the joke. no need ask people rawang develop by who, shah alam develop by who or even klang develop by who? no shit given. the things is why fk retard delete the history from sejarah book? hati tissue?
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post Feb 19 2024, 12:46 PM

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Haji Abdullah Hukum ini adalah dari suku kaum kerinci dan berasal dari sungai abu di negeri Kerinci, Sumatera, Indonesia.

KL developed by indon

#doneclaim
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post Feb 19 2024, 09:11 PM

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yap ah loy is sepupu chin peng
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post Feb 19 2024, 09:15 PM

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They only know how to worship their past because they dont have current achievement. Let them do what they want while we continue to strive for better future.
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post Feb 19 2024, 09:16 PM

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Where are the images taken from?


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post Feb 19 2024, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ripp87 @ Feb 18 2024, 07:03 PM)
Can someone draw kl today if there wasn’t British or YAL’s developments ?

Maybe KL remains as a backwater crocodile infested foresty swamp like some African kampongs today? Who knows
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when british arrived, the area was already populated by malays. kampung baru and kampung attap 2 of oldest still exist. the now known as dang wangi was a malay population area. yap ah loy may be the one declared the area as kl. but he was not the founder.

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