We should stop reading sejarah since it can easily pusing.
I miss cerita Hang Tuah.
Pengasas KL vs Pembantu British
Pengasas KL vs Pembantu British
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Feb 19 2024, 06:35 AM
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We should stop reading sejarah since it can easily pusing.
I miss cerita Hang Tuah. |
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Feb 19 2024, 10:43 AM
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Later Malaysia history will write "Tanah Melayu tidak pernah dijajah"
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Feb 19 2024, 10:50 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 10:50 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 10:57 AM
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alah, jangan la triggered.
tak kisah pun siapa founder. tapi jangan perlekehkan jasa tokoh yang pernah membantu membangunkan KL. Abdullah Hukum or Raja Puasa = pengasas which is small kampung or pekan YAL = bapa pemodenan. kolos. |
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Feb 19 2024, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(andylyc @ Feb 19 2024, 11:43 AM) Err already made that claim a decade agohttps://www.mstar.com.my/lokal/semasa/2012/...ajah-sepenuhnya DTorons liked this post
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Feb 19 2024, 11:03 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 11:06 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Feb 19 2024, 12:03 PM) It was said in Hokkien that Hang Tu Ah meant 'you eldest' and hang ji (aka jebat) meant 'you second'. If you read Hikayat Hang Tuah, it is as if Hang Tuah is some sort of immortal as he was around during the early days of Kesultanan Melaka until Melaka fell to Portuguese 😝Story was similar to romance of 3 kingdoms when it comes to over exaggeration. |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Feb 19 2024, 10:57 AM) alah, jangan la triggered. betul... tapi mungkin juga ada org lg sblm Abdullah Hukum atau Raja Puasa yg mengasaskan kampung tu... mungkin sampai ke tahun dinosaur cuma xda rekod..tak kisah pun siapa founder. tapi jangan perlekehkan jasa tokoh yang pernah membantu membangunkan KL. Abdullah Hukum or Raja Puasa = pengasas which is small kampung or pekan YAL = bapa pemodenan. kolos. yg penting knp dr dulu Yap Ah Loy tu bapa pemodenan dlm buku byk byk tahun tiba-tiba turun pangkat? |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:12 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Feb 18 2024, 07:16 PM) The northern states had to pay bunga emas as ufti to siam Malaysia pay rental to Sulu so what you say thenAnd they wrote as tanda persahabatan in sejarah book Tak nampak pun my friends force me to pay bunga emas And their kesultanan melaka is also a vassal state to Tiong Kok because of ancaman siam. And kononnya melayu lingua franca dunia hahahhaha See how this puak want to spin this hahahha |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:14 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 11:18 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Feb 19 2024, 12:06 PM) I think he is still mentioned but not like in the old sejarah books where he was glorified. The problem with Hang Tuah is there were no real evidence he existed. He is only mentioned in Hikayat Hang Tuah and Sejarah Melayu. Both books are more fiction books similar to books like Romance of Three Kingdoms where the heroes glorified based on some historical events but not real history. |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:24 AM
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Feb 19 2024, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(smallydupe @ Feb 18 2024, 07:16 PM) The northern states had to pay bunga emas as ufti to siam They also claim Satun was owned by Kesultanan Kedah. And they wrote as tanda persahabatan in sejarah book Tak nampak pun my friends force me to pay bunga emas And their kesultanan melaka is also a vassal state to Tiong Kok because of ancaman siam. And kononnya melayu lingua franca dunia hahahhaha See how this puak want to spin this hahahha In that case, Perlis should be absorbed into Kedah kan? |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Feb 19 2024, 11:10 AM) If you read Hikayat Hang Tuah, it is as if Hang Tuah is some sort of immortal as he was around during the early days of Kesultanan Melaka until Melaka fell to Portuguese 😝 The kris, Taming Sari... grants godlike skills, strength, speed and stamina to the wielder; hence was the reason of Hang Tuah's godhood.Such irony for one to just handover the weapon back and surrender and be doomed to death when one can just take on the whole army, which Hang Jebat stole and revolt for revenge, just to be tricked (long story during confrontation battle) to handover the weapon back to Hang Tuah and be killed like a street dog. Strange on why we Chinese would want to claim somebody with borrowed powers, deceitful and worst of all killing your own 'brother' that stood up for you as their role model. |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(david5343 @ Feb 19 2024, 11:11 AM) betul... tapi mungkin juga ada org lg sblm Abdullah Hukum atau Raja Puasa yg mengasaskan kampung tu... mungkin sampai ke tahun dinosaur cuma xda rekod.. Maybe because maruah tercabar?yg penting knp dr dulu Yap Ah Loy tu bapa pemodenan dlm buku byk byk tahun tiba-tiba turun pangkat? |
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Feb 19 2024, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(david5343 @ Feb 19 2024, 11:11 AM) betul... tapi mungkin juga ada org lg sblm Abdullah Hukum atau Raja Puasa yg mengasaskan kampung tu... mungkin sampai ke tahun dinosaur cuma xda rekod.. Sebab kuasa Cina tukar kerajaan , tukar sejarah tenangkan Melayu supaya Melayu boleh bangkit tak rasa rendah diriyg penting knp dr dulu Yap Ah Loy tu bapa pemodenan dlm buku byk byk tahun tiba-tiba turun pangkat? |
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