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post Feb 7 2024, 08:42 PM, updated 2y ago

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Just received this photo from a friend. Apparently the rear bumper of the S70 isn't reinforced with a bar to withstand collision?

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post Feb 7 2024, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 7 2024, 08:42 PM)
Just received this photo from a friend. Apparently the rear bumper of the S70 isn't reinforced with a bar to withstand collision?

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most honda car also dont have .... eg: jazz, old and new hrv
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post Feb 7 2024, 08:55 PM

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post Feb 7 2024, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(claudetan @ Feb 7 2024, 08:44 PM)
most honda car also dont have .... eg: jazz, old and new hrv
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I see. The Ford Focus mk3 which I sold recently got knocked 2 times, and in both instances the other 2 vehicles showed serious damage at the front of the vehicle while the Focus barely showed a scratch. Apparently I still have the photos showing the 2nd accident.

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post Feb 7 2024, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 7 2024, 08:56 PM)
I see. The Ford Focus mk3 which I sold recently got knocked 2 times, and in both instances the other 2 vehicles showed serious damage at the front of the vehicle while the Focus barely showed a scratch. Apparently I still have the photos showing the 2nd accident.

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post Feb 7 2024, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 7 2024, 08:42 PM)
Just received this photo from a friend. Apparently the rear bumper of the S70 isn't reinforced with a bar to withstand collision?

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good luck in getting spare
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post Feb 7 2024, 10:39 PM

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Many (maybe majority?) of our CKD or CBU-Thai/Indo/Viet cars these days don’t have rear collision reinforcement beams.

Reason: Because not required for ASEAN NCAP.

We get crap because our standards and buying power are crap.


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post Feb 7 2024, 11:38 PM

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SportyHandling Even Toyota Vellfire doesn't come with rear crash bar, now there is third party aftermarket selling for owner to install.

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post Feb 8 2024, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 7 2024, 11:38 PM)
Even Toyota Vellfire doesn't come with rear crash bar, now there is third party aftermarket selling for owner to install.
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This is actually quite common for many van/mpv platforms. Even some Merc luxury vans (I forgot what class) don’t get the full 5 stars for Euro NCAP, and the vanilla models (ie; not the built-to-order armored ones used for VIPs) don't come with collision reinforcement as standard either.

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post Feb 8 2024, 07:14 AM

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Really tin kosong. Proton never changed
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post Feb 8 2024, 08:01 AM

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crumple as intended. or else human get internal organ injury
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post Feb 8 2024, 09:30 AM

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Reason simple :- Rear end impact, insurance cover maa.. Anything claim the rear incoming vehicle insurance.. laugh.gif
If worse even better, claim total loss and buy another new car. tongue.gif

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post Feb 8 2024, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 7 2024, 11:38 PM)
SportyHandling Even Toyota Vellfire doesn't come with rear crash bar, now there is third party aftermarket selling for owner to install.
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I see. I presume most C and D-segment vehicles will come with the rear anti collision bar.

Just a quick check on Ultra Racing website and noticed that they offer rear anti collision bar for Toyota Vios and Nissan Almera. I presume these vehicles don't come with the rear anti collision car since the option is offered for these vehicles.

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post Feb 8 2024, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 8 2024, 09:30 AM)
Reason simple :- Rear end impact, insurance cover maa.. Anything claim the rear incoming vehicle insurance..  laugh.gif
If worse even better, claim total loss and buy another new car.  tongue.gif
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You got a point there. However, if given a choice, it's better for a vehicle to come with an anti collision bar than none. Apart from safety aspects, repairs done by workshop appointed by insurance companies can be shoddy. I know because I once got access to the photos of the repair carried out to my Ford Focus claimed through insurance. Outside may look nice but below hidden by the car body, those broken or bent parts they won't replace new and will just patch up and make good. In my case it's just minor damage. Imagine if it's major damage with more broken or damaged parts. In most cases I believe they will salvage whatever that can be used and only replace parts which are completely broken.

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post Feb 8 2024, 10:48 AM

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My 3008 got banged by a DMAX truck and the rear hatch still can lock and close properly. The DMAX suffered a leaking radiator, bent hood and cracked condenser. Too bad unable to claim because it belongs to Spanco which has no insurance for accidents.
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post Feb 8 2024, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Feb 8 2024, 10:48 AM)
My 3008 got banged by a DMAX truck and the rear hatch still can lock and close properly. The DMAX suffered a leaking radiator, bent hood and cracked condenser. Too bad unable to claim because it belongs to Spanco which has no insurance for accidents.
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Nice story. In 2 separate incidents where my Ford Focus got banged from behind, those vehicles require a tow truck to tow them to the workshop as they can't be driven anymore. The 1st incident involved a Proton Wira where the front upper bonnet was bent and there was smoke coming out from the engine compartment. In the second incident, the photos are as above and one of the tyres was out of alignment due to the impact of collision so it could not be driven anymore.

As for my car, nothing was damaged except some minor dent to the bumper. The boot can still be opened and closed as usual.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 8 2024, 11:48 AM)
You got a point there. However, if given a choice, it's better for a vehicle to come with an anti collision bar than none. Apart from safety aspects, repairs done by workshop appointed by insurance companies can be shoddy. I know because I once got access to the photos of the repair carried out to my Ford Focus claimed through insurance. Outside may look nice but below hidden by the car body, those broken or bent parts they won't replace new and will just patch up and make good. In my case it's just minor damage. Imagine if it's major damage with more broken or damaged parts. In most cases I believe they will salvage whatever that can be used and only replace parts which are completely broken.
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Nowdays is better to go back official SC for evaluation, if you go to those shady claim workshop by roadside they will try to get insurer to approve for repair as this is their way of earning more money. I have seen many rear impacts and claimed total lost, as once it hit the main chassis frame can say goodbye already.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 8 2024, 10:57 AM)
Nice story. In 2 separate incidents where my Ford Focus got banged from behind, those vehicles require a tow truck to tow them to the workshop as they can't be driven anymore. The 1st incident involved a Proton Wira where the front upper bonnet was bent and there was smoke coming out from the engine compartment. In the second incident, the photos are as above and one of the tyres was out of alignment due to the impact of collision so it could not be driven anymore.

As for my car, nothing was damaged except some minor dent to the bumper. The boot can still be opened and closed as usual.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 8 2024, 10:59 AM)
Nowdays is better to go back official SC for evaluation, if you go to those shady claim workshop by roadside they will try to get insurer to approve for repair as this is their way of earning more money. I have seen many rear impacts and claimed total lost, as once it hit the main chassis frame can say goodbye already.
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if minor, not plan to claim.
i open bumper sendiri inspect
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post Feb 8 2024, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 8 2024, 10:57 AM)
Nice story. In 2 separate incidents where my Ford Focus got banged from behind, those vehicles require a tow truck to tow them to the workshop as they can't be driven anymore. The 1st incident involved a Proton Wira where the front upper bonnet was bent and there was smoke coming out from the engine compartment. In the second incident, the photos are as above and one of the tyres was out of alignment due to the impact of collision so it could not be driven anymore.

As for my car, nothing was damaged except some minor dent to the bumper. The boot can still be opened and closed as usual.
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Mine still drivable and I drove all the way to the balai to make the report. Later paid the runner to kautim everything.
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post Feb 8 2024, 12:31 PM

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Normal lah many car nowadays don't have rear anti collision bar, for several factors, cost cutting is one of them... But many still have spare tyre, except toyota smile.gif

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