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poweredbydiscuz
post Feb 2 2024, 01:01 PM

 
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QUOTE(knwong @ Feb 2 2024, 12:57 PM)
They do. For other countries passports

It's just that Malaysian passport it's coded entire full name ANTHONY<LOKE<SIEW<FOOK as Surname and no data appear under Given Name. The one to blame is us Malaysian for the reasons I stated few post above

Just try go download any MRZ scanner app and try scan any passports, including ang moh friend's. This MRZ is an ICAO international standard thing
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I mean our airlines. Their guidelines on how to fill in the names (for malaysians) are not following this standard.

If they do, they will advise malaysians to put full name in the surname field and leave the given name empty.

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post Feb 2 2024, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
I mean our airlines. Their guidelines on how to fill in the names (for malaysians) are not following this standard.

If they do, they will advise malaysians to put full name in the surname field and leave the given name empty.
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Then this is the question you need to ask our airlines. Why their system works well when scanning overseas passport but it comes to us Malaysians what happen??
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post Feb 2 2024, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
I mean our airlines. Their guidelines on how to fill in the names (for malaysians) are not following this standard.

If they do, they will advise malaysians to put full name in the surname field and leave the given name empty.
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For mh and within Malaysia, it doesn't matter, because it's only the airlines who needs to identify the passenger, and everybody is familiar with the NRIC format.

It's a problem internationally where APIS is used, as your check in is linked to the destination immigration database. If you do not process a valid visa, you cannot check in. That visa is based on your passport name. So example, attempting to check in to Australia using your usual NRIC name format booking will meet an error as no valid visa will be found.

The airline can override this, but have to decide if they can allow you to board. Because if they board you, and you arrive but rejected by immigration on arrival, the airline is responsible to fly you back again.

Usually, they will check your passport name, and if a valid visa turns up, they will board you. The question is, they must be sure your booking name is the same person as the passport name.

Been there gone through all that. Multiple times.

Avoid all this by booking using your passport name.

Ie whole name is surname, no given name.

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 2 2024, 01:31 PM
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post Feb 2 2024, 01:39 PM

 
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 2 2024, 01:29 PM)
For mh and within Malaysia, it doesn't matter, because it's only the airlines who needs to identify the passenger, and everybody is familiar with the NRIC format.

It's a problem internationally where APIS is used, as your check in is linked to the destination immigration database. If you do not process a valid visa, you cannot check in. That visa is based on your passport name. So example, attempting to check in to Australia using your usual NRIC name format booking will meet an error as no valid visa will be found.

The airline can override this, but have to decide if they can allow you to board. Because if they board you, and you arrive but rejected by immigration on arrival, the airline is responsible to fly you back again.

Usually, they will check your passport name, and if a valid visa turns up, they will board you. The question is, they must be sure your booking name is the same person as the passport name.

Been there gone through all that. Multiple times.

Avoid all this by booking using your passport name.

Ie whole name is surname, no given name.
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That's the problem. Our airlines are not flying domestically only, yet they don't follow the international standard in their naming guidelines. All list their own guidelines that are different from each other.
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post Feb 2 2024, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 2 2024, 01:39 PM)
That's the problem. Our airlines are not flying domestically only, yet they don't follow the international standard in their naming guidelines. All list their own guidelines that are different from each other.
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Not a problem on destinations not implementing APIS. So Asia still no issue. At the moment, it's only Australia and NZ. But UK and Europe will also start their APIS requiring ETAs soon.

Even if they start, only MH will be affected, with the sole European destination of LHR.

It's a peculiarity purely for Malaysia passports. The standard naming is correct for other countries, including Singapore.

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 2 2024, 02:04 PM

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