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post Jan 22 2024, 11:50 AM, updated 2y ago

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A new 500MW hybrid solar power plant will be developed in Segamat, Johor


BY Sharil Abdul Rahman
20 January 2024

Malaysia is moving towards clean energy generation rapidly... cool2.gif bruce.gif

Three parties – UEM Group Berhad through UEM Lestra Berhad, along with HEXA Renewables Malaysia Sdn Bhd and ITRAMAS Corporation Sdn Bhd – together announced they have made progress to develop a one-gigawatt (1GW) hybrid solar power plant. The announcement of the 1GW plant was made back in July 2023 and will be located at a renewable energy industrial park.


The first step of the full realisation of the plant is the announcement of a 500-megawatt(MW) hybrid solar power plant, which will be located in Segamat, Johor. Part of the National Energy Transition Roadmap (NETR), the 1GW plant is a key flagship venture of the roadmap.

Present and signing on behalf of UEM Lestra was its Chairman and Managing Director of UEM Group, Dato’ Mohd Izani Ghani while HEXA Renewables was represented by its CEO, Vince Choi and ITRAMAS by its Group Managing Director, Lee Choo Boo.

Dato’ Mohd Izani said, “We’re off to a good start in realising this strategic and high-value national flagship energy transition project. In addition to formalising our partnerships with HEXA Renewables and ITRAMAS, we have also secured a suitable land in Segamat, Johor that will house the 500MW hybrid solar power plant. In addition, we will be working with the Government on the details of the Third Party Access (TPA) framework that will enable this project to go live.”

The project has attracted several foreign investors, including Blueleaf Energy, China Machinery Engineering Wuxi Co. Ltd, and Hexa Renewables. The investors are in discussion on the participation through multiple potential roles including collaborating on project development, financing (including equity investments) and commercialisation (including offtake of green electricity).

In regard to the roles of the three companies, EM Lestra and HEXA Renewables will form a joint venture company (JV) known as, Lestra Hexa JV Sdn Bhd, an entity that is 51%-owned by UEM Lestra and the remaining 49% by HEXA Renewables to manage the development. Meanwhile, ITRAMAS, Malaysia’s largest vertically integrated solar plant developer, will provide technical services in developing a complete EPCC (Engineering, Procurement, Construction, and Commissioning) package for Lestra Hexa JV.

When asked about the remaining 500MW, Dato’ Mohd Izani added that discussions between UEM Lestra and its other partners are ongoing, and an update will be provided soon.

TLDR: Rapid avdancement and tech competition in new clean energy, EV have paved the way for much more cheaper solar panel, EVs. PAving the way for clean renewable energy to be a viable option for power generation
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post Jan 22 2024, 11:53 AM

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i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?


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post Jan 22 2024, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 12:53 PM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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Last time the argument probably correct when compared to the cost of solar.

the price of solar have come down 80-85% the last 10 years...

will that argument still make sense now?

even much colder climate EU country like Germany is going big on solar now
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 12:53 PM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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If you want to go green the prospect is definitely better than other sources like wind, wave, etc.

Part of the tradeoff from being protected from natural disasters.
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investment on batteries when?
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 22 2024, 11:57 AM)
investment on batteries when?
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https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2023/04/11...newable-energy/
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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Jan 22 2024, 02:01 PM)
Malam nanti macam mana?
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 11:53 AM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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Gurun Kedah is okay,

Not much rain there
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the tech developed quite nicely

new transparent type and newer sodium battery

of course new gen gona be costly
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Tipu, China Jiko Solar had closed 3 plant in Malaysia. No order, produce for who?
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 11:53 AM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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Sabah or Sarawak got abundance green energy lay waste due to no place to store it . How much energy is it , if connect to west Mal yr tnb bill can go down 10 cent but due to plotikus thing no one want to do this .
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jan 22 2024, 12:44 PM)
Gurun Kedah is okay,

Not much rain there
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around SP/GURUN there got 1 small down named Bukit Selambau.

From there until Kuala Ketil, Baling got 2-3 Solar Farm.

even got china company come invest yo.
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Apatu hybrid solar plant? Solar + normal fossil fuel based plant?
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 11:53 AM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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it is.

Compare other region.

our Sun Peak Hour = 3.5~4,
In US there are region can reach 7.5


so by using same panel, same tech. they can produce 100% more.
( count in the Summer efficient factor, temp higher 25c = decrease in effcient )


BUT. BUT

Solar Enery is still free money.

get RM3.5 free money is lower than RM7

but still free money
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 11:53 AM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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Which /ktard so noob?

Since government chop off all the tree at roadside, please built the solar all above the road…then we will have a lot solar energy….somemore can cover the sun
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jan 22 2024, 01:14 PM)
Apatu hybrid solar plant? Solar + normal fossil fuel based plant?
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Solar + Energy Storage

Generation and Storage
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 22 2024, 01:16 PM)
it is.

Compare other region.

our Sun Peak Hour = 3.5~4,
In US there are region can reach 7.5
so by using same panel, same tech. they can produce 100% more.
( count in the Summer efficient factor, temp higher 25c = decrease in effcient )
BUT. BUT

Solar Enery is still free money.

get RM3.5 free money is lower than RM7

but still free money
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:16 PM)
Which /ktard so noob?

Since government chop off all the tree at roadside, please built the solar all above the road…then we will have a lot solar energy….somemore can cover the sun
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not me, But that /ktart is not noob.
Malaysia is really not the best place for solar compare other region in the world.

Cloudy + Rain + All Summer.

BUT, with cheap solar panel, as long as you could get SUN
you win
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 22 2024, 01:18 PM)
not me, But that /ktart is not noob.
Malaysia is really not the best place for solar compare other region in the world.

Cloudy + Rain + All Summer.

BUT, with cheap solar panel, as long as you could get SUN
you win
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What Malaysia best at btw?
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 22 2024, 01:17 PM)
Solar + Energy Storage

Generation and Storage
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Good.
This is good.
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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Jan 22 2024, 12:31 PM)
Malam nanti macam mana?
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let say now burning 100% Coal.


actually in most Country.
Working HOURS Power consumption usually 50%~75% more than Night and after 12.00am


by adding Solar Power to supply the Peak hour during working hours.
and Night still runing on Coal.

which is very OK.

The world is waiting for more cost effcient Energy Storage to fully go Solar.
as now Solar Panel is getting more powerful yet cheaper than before.





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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:21 PM)
Good.
This is good.
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ya.

solar energy is really TOO Cheap to produce.
the only problem is when SUN go down.
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the european already done this solar shit..
guest what..
they abandon it..
the project was not feasable at all...
in long term..
it just churn up more money then to save it..
so..
they return back to dirty energy..
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:19 PM)
What Malaysia best at btw?
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according seda, the highest record in Malaysia is 4.1
in Kedah. and some east coast region.


while in US, they can achieve 7.5
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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 22 2024, 01:10 PM)
Sabah or Sarawak got abundance green energy lay waste due to no place to store it . How much energy is it , if connect to west Mal yr tnb bill can go down 10 cent but due to plotikus thing no one want to do this .
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why connect to west malaysia when east malaysia always have power outages.

resolve own outage problem before thinking of konek here n there
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QUOTE(cukobi @ Jan 22 2024, 01:22 PM)
the european already done this solar shit..
guest what..
they abandon it..
the project was not feasable at all...
in long term..
it just churn up more money then to save it..
so..
they return back to dirty energy..
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Is it? Any source to read and understand more?
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QUOTE(cukobi @ Jan 22 2024, 01:22 PM)
the european already done this solar shit..
guest what..
they abandon it..
the project was not feasable at all...
in long term..
it just churn up more money then to save it..
so..
they return back to dirty energy..
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abondoned?

most likely you only consumed lapsap tiktok news.

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https://www.iea.org/energy-system/renewables/solar-pv
International Energy Agency.


2023, EVEN ARAB BUILD THE WOLRD LARGEST SOLAR FARM. EVEN ARAB
European hoarding too much solar panel, but only found the n-type are far better....
return most order, and caused the solar panel price crash in 2023. Good for the world.



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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:25 PM)
Is it? Any source to read and understand more?
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 22 2024, 01:26 PM)
abondoned?

most likely you only consumed lapsap tiktok news.

user posted image

https://www.iea.org/energy-system/renewables/solar-pv
International Energy Agency.
2023, EVEN ARAB BUILD THE WOLRD LARGEST SOLAR FARM. EVEN ARAB
European hoarding too much solar panel, but only found the n-type are far better....
return most order, and caused the solar panel price crash in 2023. Good for the world.
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read my source.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 22 2024, 01:22 PM)
according seda, the highest record in Malaysia is 4.1
in Kedah. and some east coast region.
while in US, they can achieve 7.5
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Because malaysia is not best for solar…

So uncle ask what things malaysia best at….
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jan 22 2024, 01:26 PM)
read my source.
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Thank you.
I only believe Europe is a piece of shitty land…
But coming into energy, i don’t think they have much choice…
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Jan 22 2024, 11:53 AM)
i thought last time got 1 ktard energy expert say that malaysia actually not a good country to do solar because a lot of clouds and rain?
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Solar panels in this country is effective for about 4 hours daily on average. Johor have large data centers that need renewable energy supply. Hence, solar power plant installation.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 22 2024, 11:54 AM)
Last time the argument probably correct when compared to the cost of solar.

the price of solar have come down 80-85% the last 10 years...

will that argument still make sense now?

even much colder climate EU country like Germany is going big on solar now
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siapa yang buat solar atas bumbung sambil loan 5-7 years tu boleh menangis la
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 22 2024, 01:30 PM)
Solar panels in this country is effective for about 4 hours daily on average. Johor have large data centers that need renewable energy supply. Hence, solar power plant installation.
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All shoplot, dbkl, mbpj should build solar at their open air parking space…
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siapa yang buat solar atas bumbung sambil loan 5-7 years tu boleh menangis la
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Kerajaan buat lah…kita guna jer
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:32 PM)
All shoplot, dbkl, mbpj should build solar at their open air parking space…
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Who is going to pay for it?
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Who is going to pay for it?
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This is stupid ... they should do as much as possible to get people to install solar on their homes, that will spread out the generating capacity and will reuse space (roofs) instead of clearing large swaths of land that can be used for something else - especially if it results in deforestation.

Also if you're providing incentives for people to install solar in their homes you dont have much if any capital outlay either.

This is why you see in other advanced countries they dont generally build big solar plants but get their residents to put up solar on their roofs. Its a win win win situation.

But here ... build big big power plants so that certain parties can benefit with crony deals, its the case with coal plants, damns, and now solar plants.
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I think biggest obstacle for us to use Solar Panel is our weak currency.
But the Electric generate is local price but not International price.

The panel made cost in USD. when Malaysian buy it, its cost in USD.
But if u consume the Electricity, it is local produced, not heavily affected by USD
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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 22 2024, 01:39 PM)
This is stupid ... they should do as much as possible to get people to install solar on their homes, that will spread out the generating capacity and will reuse space (roofs) instead of clearing large swaths of land that can be used for something else - especially if it results in deforestation.

Also if you're providing incentives for people to install solar in their homes you dont have much if any capital outlay either.

This is why you see in other advanced countries they dont generally build big solar plants but get their residents to put up solar on their roofs. Its a win win win situation.

But here ... build big big power plants so that certain parties can benefit with crony deals, its the case with coal plants, damns, and now solar plants.
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Hello….malaysians pandai kira one okay? Where got so easy to use their house?

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 22 2024, 11:54 AM)
Last time the argument probably correct when compared to the cost of solar.

the price of solar have come down 80-85% the last 10 years...

will that argument still make sense now?

even much colder climate EU country like Germany is going big on solar now
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solar cost is not only on the panel,.. the cost also on the size of land,..
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 22 2024, 01:47 PM)
solar cost is not only on the panel,.. the cost also on the size of land,..
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Build on resoviour
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 22 2024, 12:36 PM)
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QUOTE(xiaojohn @ Jan 22 2024, 01:43 PM)
Hello….malaysians pandai kira one okay? Where got so easy to use their house?
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Hello? You read my post or simply comment?

No one is talking about letting others use your house.

Its about getting people to install solar on their own, like you see its common to do in Australia, Netherlands, Germany etc.
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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 22 2024, 02:52 PM)
Hello? You read my post or simply comment?

No one is talking about letting others use your house.

Its about getting people to install solar on their own, like you see its common to do in Australia, Netherlands, Germany etc.
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You should think again and throw your old mindset…how to getting people to install solar? Subsidy?
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 22 2024, 01:47 PM)
solar cost is not only on the panel,.. the cost also on the size of land,..
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Y need to use land ? Put on water even more efficient, it provides cooling for the solar panels as well.

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 22 2024, 04:10 PM)


Y need to use land ? Put on water even more efficient, it provides cooling for the solar panels as well.
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Yeap. Brilliant.

No need spend money to keep cutting undergrown bushes/grass for maintenance as well.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 22 2024, 03:13 PM)
Yeap. Brilliant.

No need spend money to keep cutting undergrown bushes/grass for maintenance as well.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jan 22 2024, 03:10 PM)


Y need to use land ? Put on water even more efficient, it provides cooling for the solar panels as well.
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Singapore also has....around Sembawang there bordering Johor
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QUOTE(RViN @ Jan 22 2024, 01:39 PM)
This is stupid ... they should do as much as possible to get people to install solar on their homes, that will spread out the generating capacity and will reuse space (roofs) instead of clearing large swaths of land that can be used for something else - especially if it results in deforestation.

Also if you're providing incentives for people to install solar in their homes you dont have much if any capital outlay either.

This is why you see in other advanced countries they dont generally build big solar plants but get their residents to put up solar on their roofs. Its a win win win situation.

But here ... build big big power plants so that certain parties can benefit with crony deals, its the case with coal plants, damns, and now solar plants.
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There's already a program from SEDA called NEM 3.0 but it's not lucrative. ROI too long for consumer
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 03:24 PM)
There's already a program from SEDA called NEM 3.0 but it's not lucrative. ROI too long for consumer
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ROI is 4.5 to 5 years is too long?
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jan 22 2024, 04:46 PM)
ROI is 4.5 to 5 years is too long?
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No it is 10 years!
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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 22 2024, 01:10 PM)
Sabah or Sarawak got abundance green energy lay waste due to no place to store it . How much energy is it , if connect to west Mal yr tnb bill can go down 10 cent but due to plotikus thing no one want to do this .
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Sarawak yes, Sabah no. Sabah actually not really enough electricity now, some kota kinabalu areas experience rolling blackouts...
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 04:48 PM)
No it is 10 years!
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I am a user, are you one too? You got your 10 years from some old folk tale?

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jan 22 2024, 04:49 PM)
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No I inquired about this before. Many advise me since my bill is between 200 - 300 a month, not worth to install solar...better to do energy savings...which I did
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 22 2024, 01:10 PM)
Sabah or Sarawak got abundance green energy lay waste due to no place to store it . How much energy is it , if connect to west Mal yr tnb bill can go down 10 cent but due to plotikus thing no one want to do this .
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Sebab hard to lay straight cable from S'wak to Semenanjung, as you have Riau (Indonesia) in the middle.
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 04:50 PM)
No I inquired about this before. Many advise me since my bill is between 200 - 300 a month, not worth to install solar...better to do energy savings...which I did
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200 no need solar la ...... ayo...but it's not 10 years as you claimed.
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jan 22 2024, 04:50 PM)
Sebab hard to lay straight cable from S'wak to Semenanjung, as you have Riau (Indonesia) in the middle.
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Bakun dam can produce a lot more than local demand. They need to convince Kalimantan to buy from them. Hopefully Nusantara new capital city will need those power
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jan 22 2024, 04:52 PM)
200 no need solar la ...... ayo...but it's not 10 years as you claimed.
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It's 10 years according to one of the installer calculation when I share with him my monthly bill consumption

Also I don't intend to buy EV so my bill won't go up
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post Jan 22 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 22 2024, 04:55 PM)
It's 10 years according to one of the installer calculation when I share with him my monthly bill consumption

Also I don't intend to buy EV so my bill won't go up
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Like I had said if 200 you don't need solar panel power.
Too big a chopper to just kill a small chicken.

Assumption vs actual usage, how is correct?
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QUOTE(NEP1971 @ Jan 22 2024, 01:41 PM)
tumbangkan pokok demi solar panel?
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dan soon will be guna tanah penduduk melayu.

 

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