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post Jan 18 2024, 09:44 AM, updated 2y ago

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Amid an MACC investigation, leaked documents reveal that Daim Zainuddin’s family members are the beneficial owners of yet another hidden offshore trust holding assets worth hundreds of millions of ringgit.

The documents, obtained by the Investigative Consortium of Investigative Journalism (ICIJ) and shared with Malaysiakini, showed the trust was set up in the names of the former finance minister’s wife Naimah Khalid and his two sons Muhammed Amir Zainuddin and Muhammed Amin Zainuddin.

The trio gave their statement to the MACC on Jan 10 as part of the MACC’s investigations into undeclared wealth held by Daim (above), following the Pandora Papers revelation by Malaysiakini and the ICIJ in 2021.

In 2021, Daim said all his wealth was obtained legally and trusts were part of legitimate estate management, while last week, Naimah said the investigation was politically motivated and is suing the MACC.

The latest leak from a service provider from the Cayman Islands showed that as late as 2020, there were assets worth some US$52.56 million (RM244.06 million) held in ZA Trust, which is owned by Naimah, Amir and Amin.

This eclipses the assets owned in offshore trusts previously linked to Daim, where limited information only pointed to a value of under £25 million (RM148.26 million).

The latest leak showed ZA Trust also received a loan of US$49 million (RM227.53 million) from Adam Zeta Trust but there are no details on what it was for or who owns Adam Zeta Trust.

The leaked documents are of Cayman provider Genesis Trust & Corporate Services Ltd, a company which provides services like company formation and administration, partnership registration and administration, trust services, directorial services, and more.

The Cayman Islands is one of several tax havens favoured by high-net-worth individuals to store their assets for a variety of reasons that are not necessarily illegal.
However, in recent years, there has been pressure for greater transparency of assets held in tax havens to combat tax evasion and money laundering.


Malaysiakini has contacted Daim and his family via their lawyers Tommy Thomas and Rajesh Nagarajan, and is awaiting a response.
The ICIJ has also contacted Genesis Trust for a response.

High-value properties in UK, US
In leaked compliance documents created by Genesis Trust, the beneficial owners of ZA Trust - Daim’s wife and sons - were deemed “high risk” due to their connection with Daim.
According to the financial statements, ZA Trust’s worth grew multiple times compared to 2019, when it received a gain on “revaluation of unquoted investments” of US$42.80 million (RM198.74 million).

These were shares in three offshore registered companies - Branworth Holdings Limited, Copperfield Investment Holdings Limited, and Straits Properties Holdings Limited.
The companies, which were not fully owned by ZA Trust, held properties in the US and the UK.

In the US, the properties are owned under multiple layers of companies incorporated in the British Virgin Islands (BVI), Massachusetts, and Delaware. They include hotels, car parks, and commercial and residential properties.
Copperfield Investment and Straits Properties, meanwhile, own properties in central London.

This includes part of 50 St Mary’s Axe in the financial district of London, a seven-floor office building, purchased by Copperfield for £23.7 million (RM140.57 million) in 2013.

Copperfield Investment owns part of the lower floors of the building, located in the financial district and just 200m from the iconic skyscraper The Gherkin, according to the UK Land Registry.
Based on real estate listings, space in the building is rented at £59.50 (RM352.91) per sq ft.

Straits Properties, meanwhile, owns an entire office building and the land it is on in London, bought for £31.5 million (RM186.84 million) in 2014.

The eight-floor building called One Crown Court is less than 500m from the renowned St Paul’s Cathedral.

The 48,183 sq ft building is rented out for £68.50 (RM406.30) per sq ft, according to the property's real estate listing.

Layers of ownership

The three companies in which ZA Trust owns shares - Branworth, Copperfield Investment, and Straits Properties - were all incorporated in tax havens and are, in turn, owned by layers of trusts and companies incorporated in offshore jurisdictions, obscuring their actual owners.

However, at least two of those companies have links to Daim outside of the ZA Trust via an individual called Francis Donald Ventura.

The British national is listed as the beneficial owner of the BVI-incorporated Copperfield Investment and BVI company Straits Properties, in the UK company registry Companies House.

Ventura is a trustee of the UK-incorporated charity Ilham Foundation, which was founded by Naimah in 2016. Amir and Amin were made trustees in 2017.

The foundation, which declared no profit in the past three years, shares the same name as Ilham Tower, the Kuala Lumpur skyscraper the MACC seized last month over its investigation into Daim.

Both the companies owned by Ventura are also owned by two offshore trusts - including one that shares the same office building as the firm managing the Daim family trust in the Cayman Islands.

In his affidavit seeking judicial review challenging MACC’s investigations into him, Daim said the investigation into his wealth is unreasonable because his wealth can be easily justified by his business dealings since 1969.

He said among others, he holds shares or controls other major companies like SimeUEP (now Sime Darby), Guthrie, TV3, Maybank, Consplant, Cold Storage, and Nestle Malaysia.
His 10 percent stake in Nestle Malaysia alone is worth RM3 billion, he said.

Daim also noted that since the revelations about him and his family’s wealth in the Pandora Papers do not show any wrongdoing, the MACC has no grounds to investigate him based on those documents.

This post has been edited by Lembu Goreng: Jan 18 2024, 09:55 AM
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Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country

ITS A RHETORICAL STATEMENT CUNTS

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what's revealed are just a drop in the ocean of corruption and proxy from years in power
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post Jan 18 2024, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 18 2024, 09:46 AM)
Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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Itu atuk moyang da prepare n kasi masa 1800. Hebat buat invesment grow from 10,000 to hundreds of millions.
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Bursa recent unusual market activity related to this ???
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QUOTE(party @ Jan 18 2024, 09:48 AM)
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Itu atuk moyang da prepare n kasi masa 1800. Hebat buat invesment grow from 10,000 to hundreds of millions.
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Most likely already diverted and laundred the money to family members or 3rd parties. If he kena jail, his family members mostly likely can still live rich..

Untung la.
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ol' ppl has nothing much to scare... coz not much time to be on earth...

so they bcom more daring and if makan also makan big la...
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There must be more, this is Tun Daim, jgn main main
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I don't have a problem with songlap....but at least keep it in Malaysia lah! Haiyo.

Putting it in other country is treason. I consider this high treason and traitorous behavior.
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He kan self proclaimed richest Malaysian man?
Estimated worth up to 50 bil.
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QUOTE(Winddragon2.0 @ Jan 18 2024, 10:53 AM)
I don't have a problem with songlap....but at least keep it in Malaysia lah! Haiyo.

Putting it in other country is treason. I consider this high treason and traitorous behavior.
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post Jan 18 2024, 09:55 AM

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Just confiscate all his possessions including his nearest family members assets and put it into treasury
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there is more and more billions that is yet to be uncovered from him alone.

hundreds of million is nothing to him.

but but, to his credit, he does comes from a family of money. And somehow self made, mostly being there at the right time when gov was handing out "tongkat" to assist bumi on business.

and then his potential was realized by powerful people that will enable him to "earn" even much more.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 18 2024, 09:46 AM)
Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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the open buffet has been running for decades, and i won't think for a sec that the buffer have closed even now

and i still think my estimates are low

but got ppl here say i exaggerate. i guess many ppl still in dreamline oblivious to the scale of the buffet
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Jan 18 2024, 09:44 AM)


In his affidavit seeking judicial review challenging MACC’s investigations into him, Daim said the investigation into his wealth is unreasonable because his wealth can be easily justified by his business dealings since 1969.

He said among others, he holds shares or controls other major companies like SimeUEP (now Sime Darby), Guthrie, TV3, Maybank, Consplant, Cold Storage, and Nestle Malaysia.
His 10 percent stake in Nestle Malaysia alone is worth RM3 billion, he said.

Daim also noted that since the revelations about him and his family’s wealth in the Pandora Papers do not show any wrongdoing, the MACC has no grounds to investigate him based on those documents.
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If like that can easily top 10 richest if combine all wealth, but cannot see his name there.
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Fuhhh… he amass so much money for what???
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They are just moving hundred of millions here and there

While im still thinking about having lunch at RM7 Nasi Lemak or RM9 Chicken rice can let me survive until this month end

JIBAI POLITICIANS
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If Anwar is smart, take all the riches from mahathir gang and pump it back into the country. For sure ringgit naik
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 18 2024, 09:57 AM)
Fuhhh… he amass so much money for what???
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help less fortunate Bumiputras?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jan 18 2024, 09:58 AM)
They are just moving hundred of millions here and there

While im still thinking about having lunch at RM7 Nasi Lemak or RM9 Chicken rice can let me survive until this month end

JIBAI POLITICIANS
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laugh.gif so rich huh eat RM9 ayam rice
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Pandora papers opened
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jan 18 2024, 10:00 AM)
laugh.gif so rich huh eat RM9 ayam rice
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drive old estima only

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quote,

"He said among others, he holds shares or controls other major companies like SimeUEP (now Sime Darby), Guthrie, TV3, Maybank, Consplant, Cold Storage, and Nestle Malaysia.
His 10 percent stake in Nestle Malaysia alone is worth RM3 billion, he said."


The 1% folk mentality.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 18 2024, 09:57 AM)
Fuhhh… he amass so much money for what???
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He's like a dragon, just want to keep hoarding and sitting on top of his treasure pile.
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Nenek moyang menabung untuk saya. Saya tak tau.
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I am also menabung jak kecik
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 18 2024, 10:06 AM)
He's like a dragon, just want to keep hoarding and sitting on top of his treasure pile.
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Luckily there were no hobbits/dwarves around him for a long time.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jan 18 2024, 09:50 AM)
menabung dari kecik versi Parameswara?
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Klu x masuk politics, nenek moyang da jadi no.1 richest man in the galaxy.
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Even wife and sons got bigger trust funds overseas, menabung sejak kecil lettew whistling.gif

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im really amused by the way and amount of wealth amassed. shocking.gif
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please la, do you really think Daim having money offshore is surprising ?
I'm willing to bet even mahathir has it .

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when ppl this reach what they actually do with the money?
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Last time rumours said that he can make RM value drop. Now with this kind of wealth macam a bit true oh…
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His early law career in the 1960s-1970s turn him into learning the crooks international law of Swiss,Cayman,Sinkie land,Money laundering via buying tons of dictatorship African banks and playing Trust Foundation songlap game , Mahathir-Daim Empire plays even advance songlap game than their mentor Indonesia Suharto..... tongue.gif

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please la, do you really think Daim having money offshore is surprising ?
I'm willing to bet even mahathir has it .
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Mahathir pandai, using proxies all the way

He nver use his own name
Any trading or transaction, all proxies
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USD 50B wow... If + Thanos USD XX B.....

No wonder RM can be goyang....
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Is he the ex AG? Cash is king then

Malaysiakini has contacted Daim and his family via their lawyers Tommy Thomas and Rajesh Nagarajan, and is awaiting a response.
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Jan 18 2024, 10:11 AM)
when ppl this reach what they actually do with the money?
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is all about family

he "fight" for his kids
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Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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So much money , maybe he directly keeping economy poor to press Anwar , so many hands in so many things, even foreign investors also actually report to him
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No wonder of all people, Jho Low only can call Tun Daim back then, not even police or MACC can reach Jho Low. PH 1.0 Elder Council mafia.... tongue.gif


Jho Low keeps sending messages, says Daim
Friday, November 9th, 2018


Two months ago, Daim revealed that Low had telephoned him before he left for China in July.

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2018/11/09/...ages-says-daim/

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QUOTE(FreedomSeeker @ Jan 18 2024, 10:11 AM)
Last time rumours said that he can make RM value drop. Now with this kind of wealth macam a bit true oh…
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Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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how do u not know? mamak and him are the master songlapper in the country during umno era.

they trump even the richest people in MY. they are probably more songlapper behind the scene.

u really think richest ppl in MY are chinese? haha
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Maybe he is Mamak bagman?

Deswai Mamak can always say he’s clean.
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Jan 18 2024, 11:23 AM)
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how do u not know? mamak and him are the master songlapper in the country during umno era.

they trump even the richest people in MY. they are probably more songlapper behind the scene.

u really think richest ppl in MY are chinese? haha
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QUOTE(Drian @ Jan 18 2024, 10:10 AM)
please la, do you really think Daim having money offshore is surprising ?
I'm willing to bet even mahathir has it .
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mamak konfirm. how abt his followers songlapped 60 years ago during umno era? laugh.gif

him and daim are the big boss.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 18 2024, 11:27 AM)
Its a rhetorical question my friend
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i read again your post, it sounded quite dumb tbh
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 18 2024, 09:46 AM)
Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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Still continuos siphoning.
While /k/ blaming PMX for RM value drop vs USD, the cronies laughing all the way enjoying free moneh.
You want them stop????Sure.....just raise the damm interest rate
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Must siphon back all these funds to malaysia
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 18 2024, 11:36 AM)
Still continuos siphoning.
While /k/ blaming PMX for RM value drop vs USD, the cronies laughing all the way enjoying free moneh.
You want them stop????Sure.....just raise the damm interest rate
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no need to say as if PMX is suci harmoni

for one, he's having a partner that have had 47 charges, he's working with Borneo political alliance which have close association with White Hair, which probably siphoned more than Daim given the affluent nature resources of the state
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So, is there any proof of corruption or just another proof of his wealth?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 18 2024, 09:46 AM)
Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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this guy can gang sama Jho Low already

the old Deep State revealed one by one ...
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But but but....so many people say Najib is the worst. Surely Diam couldn't be worst. Right?

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 18 2024, 11:45 AM)
no need to say as if PMX is suci harmoni

for one, he's having a partner that have had 47 charges, he's working with Borneo political alliance which have close association with White Hair, which probably siphoned more than Daim given the affluent nature resources of the state
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ah, the white hair is really untouchable one, wait till he gone, then can start digging back
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i still recall those brought up this kind of allegation back in 2018, the RBA, PH fags in /k/ gang up to challenge "do you have proof? if you have evidence, pls lipot to SPRM" laugh.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 18 2024, 11:48 AM)
i still recall those brought up this kind of allegation back in 2018, the RBA, PH fags in /k/ gang up to challenge "do you have proof? if you have evidence, pls lipot to SPRM" laugh.gif whistling.gif
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Now you can call them out yam cha, then set up a place with a table of shit. Force sit them down and ask them open wide while you feed them in slow motion. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jan 18 2024, 11:45 AM)
no need to say as if PMX is suci harmoni

for one, he's having a partner that have had 47 charges, he's working with Borneo political alliance which have close association with White Hair, which probably siphoned more than Daim given the affluent nature resources of the state
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There is no clean in politics, but no matter how you wing it, PMX being in jail for years means he has lesser time to be corrupt, and by that automatically is the less dirty one
That's why we should be changing politicians in power every 5-10 years.

But before we change him, good that he do us a favor to recover as much as possible what was lost in the years before.

Seems like we have definitely lost alot sad.gif
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Mahathir and Tun Daim considered New Money rather than Old Money folks, they just started around mid 1970s when Mahathir begin to get some minister job, Tun Razak died, Mahathir in turbo mode up. Old Money is like his wife Hasmah Ali family, a very Old Money family in Selangor,even his elder brother Tun Ismail Ali is the first local BNM governor from 1960s to 1980, Najib as well is from Old Money folk just like H20....
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QUOTE(yongku99 @ Jan 18 2021, 12:01 PM)
super ring as well is from Old Money folk just like H20....
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her networth is not just songlap only but power abuse also for sure. like you can easily borrow 500M from the bank 50 years ago to invest in top companies like nestle maybank of course ur money will keep growing lo. That officer approved the loan also probably not here adi so no proof of power abuse.

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Fuhhh… he amass so much money for what???
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Change the word "power" to money, and see how true was that.
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Bottomless pit of hell has a spot for these crooks.

Why is he touchable now? Next is sarawak mr TM
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daim chocolate stupid la. if i have wealth like him i migrate liao lo, keep low profile, change phone, cut all political contact in malaysia including contact with old horse so no one can call him anymore. 80 yrs still need to undergo all the ordeal kesian
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all the wealth that could save the people....instead...save their luxury bed/homes/kids.....

kad racing harus digunakan untuk orang orang bodoh....

apparently, after decades...the legacy of bodoh lives on....LOL...


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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jan 18 2024, 10:14 AM)
Mahathir pandai, using proxies all the way

He nver use his own name
Any trading or transaction, all proxies
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Correct.. That's why bijan kantoi jho low credit money to his own account.. And he x tau..

Mahathir although we know he use proxies.. We not able do anything... Gigit jer..

Daim chocolate itu x pikir jauh macam mahathir use proxies.. Semua use direct own families.. Although not as bad as bijan.. But in the end he can justify his family do all wrong doing.. Not him..

Cut tie with family lo..
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jan 18 2024, 12:11 PM)
her networth is not just songlap only but power abuse also for sure. like you can easily borrow 500M from the bank 50 years ago to invest in top companies like nestle maybank of course ur money will keep growing lo. That officer approved the loan also probably not here adi so no proof of power abuse.
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Don't think the Nestle or Maybank shares bought 50 years ago, probably in the 1990s or 2000s,same era he mysteriously started buying african banks etc. Probably they learn from the French on how to launder in Africa hiding behind a company,banks,mining company etc. What a genius place to hide money coz no sane investigator wanna go to that shit hole dictatorship region for investigation.
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So bila boleh lokap, freeze and confiscate all those fund.
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No wonder 1998 financial hits so hard. National coffers kena sedut kering and vulnerable to Soros manipulation.
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QUOTE(Winddragon2.0 @ Jan 18 2024, 09:53 AM)
I don't have a problem with songlap....but at least keep it in Malaysia lah! Haiyo.

Putting it in other country is treason. I consider this high treason and traitorous behavior.
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Zeta sounds familiar. Is it Zeta Jones or the local lady.
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and puas does not want to cut ties with Madey n his cohorts.

Hah, they can say what they want about umbo

puas is just the same.
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jan 18 2024, 01:27 PM)
all the wealth that could save the people....instead...save their luxury bed/homes/kids.....

kad racing harus digunakan untuk orang orang bodoh....

apparently, after decades...the legacy of bodoh lives on....LOL...
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Rakyats are given impression that gomen still can cope with cheap medical and pro-bumi policies still running smooth , with occasional bailots for failing ventures ... DESPITE multibillion songlaps by the elites.

As always.. religious /racial issues popping out once a while is a good diversion to mask the current and future economy. financial status of this country.

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After forex total loss and 1997 crisis bailout rounds, Tun Daim mysteriously collecting and buying African banks,Bangladesh banks etc, where on earth he got the money to do so when even billionaire around this region don't do that expensive thing.
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Zeta sounds familiar.  Is it Zeta Jones  or the local lady.
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when ppl this reach what they actually do with the money?
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I wonder if his wealth is more than 100billion rm
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pencuri is the only occupation that can match entrepreneurs when come to accumulate wealth.
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when ppl this reach what they actually do with the money?
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First you buy yourself a pair of quality sandal, second find a buddy learn the art of perception painting a mural that others are rich but not us

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Now we know who really control the economy of malaysia

All the songlap tuns combined, get ready to be shocked
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when ppl this reach what they actually do with the money?
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Influence the politics of a country of 34 million population.
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duit ni untuk kemajuan kaum, untuk membantu bina tempat agama dan lain lain lagi, jangan sentuh la
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Jho Low also lose.
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Your heart can't handle the number.

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 18 2024, 09:46 AM)
Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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Jho Low also lose.
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i can tell u, this case isn't the most extreme

there is one case, if investigated will put this case and all the amount u see here to shame. the riches they accumulated is so vast, fatty will be jealous
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Compared to daim and atok

Jho Low and bosskau are just ikan bilis

Now you know why bosskau never felt guilty about 1mdb

QUOTE(Fresh bright @ Jan 18 2024, 01:24 PM)
Jho Low also lose.
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Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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i wonder can we get the money back ??..
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Compared to daim and atok

Jho Low and bosskau are just ikan bilis

Now you know why bosskau never felt guilty about 1mdb
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thief that steal lesser must be good thief ???...
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Religion is really a good thing

It can control fools easily

QUOTE(pej425 @ Jan 18 2024, 01:22 PM)
duit ni untuk kemajuan kaum, untuk membantu bina tempat agama dan lain lain lagi, jangan sentuh la
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QUOTE(metaled @ Jan 18 2024, 09:56 AM)
there is more and more billions that is yet to be uncovered from him alone.

hundreds of million is nothing to him.

but but, to his credit, he does comes from a family of money. And somehow self made, mostly being there at the right time when gov was handing out "tongkat" to assist bumi on business.

and then his potential was realized by powerful people that will enable him to "earn" even much more.
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I agreed, only "self made" I disagree. Family is rich? hearsay, his father is a clerk.

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Now that you have alerted him, the tracks to his other hidden wealth will be even more hidden from sight with no visible links to immediate family.
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Nope

Now you know bosskau learning songlap from who

QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 18 2024, 01:38 PM)
thief that steal lesser must be good thief ???...
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syukurlah... still got ppl condemn pmx though... maybe same gang like daim... undeclared waelth
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Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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You must be a malay. For years, we nons talked about corruption in Mahathir and cronies regardless of race, but you think we want to blame and witchhunt.

Take Mahathir, Daim and Taib ill gotten money, and Msia currency will go up hundred folds
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This is the tactic to lure them out

Once they move the money, there will be traces

QUOTE(ceras @ Jan 18 2024, 01:45 PM)
Now that you have alerted him, the tracks to his other hidden wealth will be even more hidden from sight with no visible links to immediate family.
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You must be a malay. For years, we nons talked about corruption in Mahathir and cronies regardless of race, but you think we want to blame and witchhunt.

Take Mahathir, Daim and Taib ill gotten money, and Msia currency will go up hundred folds
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I'm Chinese lah. Aduhmak. Again it was rhetorical question
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hidden offshore trust holding assets


babi, malaysia tax pun tak mau bayar

he is going to stay in IJN till death
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Last time rumours said that he can make RM value drop. Now with this kind of wealth macam a bit true oh…
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He can solo MYR LOL
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Sadly it's true that trusts funds are legitimate ways of managing wealth.

And Cayman island is a popular place to park because of 0 tax.

So unless you can find issue with how the money is obtained there's nothing you can do.

And knowing daim, the evidence probably gone a long time ago.
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Fuck them. How much have they siphoned off the country
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So sheltered. You never even think how they got so rich and want to desperately cling to power?
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This one use 10 generations also not finish
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Then why keep wanting more? Not like he gonna live beyond 100 years
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Sebab melayu miskin ... helang took all their money.

But politicians tell melayu sebab cina india steal from them ...
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I'm Chinese lah. Aduhmak. Again it was rhetorical question
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