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post Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM, updated 2y ago

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Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?


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post Jan 12 2024, 12:47 PM

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Shouldn't it be the other way round?

Western cars are notoriously fickle to maintain.
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post Jan 12 2024, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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Noo they can but they make their cars to be reliable. One of the most reliable cars . Volvo pre Ford , Geely made very strong reliable cars. Case in point the 240 GL red block was so under stressed that they eventually tune up the block over time.
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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One thing for sure jap cars cannot compete with conti cars when it comes to reliability. And giving the owners tow truck experiences
Lol




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Japan car can't even compete with Chinese car. How to beat those EU luxury brand?
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Jan 12 2024, 01:00 PM)
Noo they can but they make their cars to be reliable. One of the most reliable cars . Volvo pre Ford , Geely made very strong reliable cars. Case in point the 240 GL red block was so under stressed that they eventually tune up the block over time.
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Reliability in term of ?
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 12 2024, 12:47 PM)
Shouldn't it be the other way round?

Western cars are notoriously fickle to maintain.
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Exactly
And dare to say technology and engineering is good.

My ass technology is good la.
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post Jan 12 2024, 01:08 PM

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please check best selling car in the world. than come back.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Jan 12 2024, 01:07 PM)
Reliability in term of ?
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Breakdown , you never see the cars tersadai unlike modern German cars you see a few monkeys stranded every now and then.
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post Jan 12 2024, 01:09 PM

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China car > western car > japan car > korea car
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post Jan 12 2024, 01:13 PM

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I used to be fascinated by lexus. For me, it speaks elegant. Until i see toyota duplicate their design and make it cheaper. and now i no longer want it.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jan 12 2024, 01:07 PM)
Exactly
And dare to say technology and engineering is good.

My ass technology is good la.
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post Jan 12 2024, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jan 12 2024, 01:13 PM)
I used to be fascinated by lexus. For me, it speaks elegant. Until i see toyota duplicate their design and make it cheaper. and now i no longer want it.
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lexus owned by toyota.
same like perodua owned by daihatsu. daihatsu owned by toyota too

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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Legend JDM car already win those shitty western car
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post Jan 12 2024, 01:23 PM

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Its because of culture!

Japanese people makes things that is reliable and serves the purpose. If there are no problems with the system and technique, don't change it.

Mat Salleh on the other hand have very short span of attention. They want new nice looking products fast. This cancels the Japanese idea of making things last longer than it should. So their products will fail in an engineered manner so they could sell you their next product.

No one noticed this at all?

Most people here today adopted the Mat Salleh attitude of wanting it to look nice and fast. So they could brag they have the latest and willing to let it go after 3-5 years for the next newer thing.

Today even Japanese are not immune to the Mat Salleh ideology. Mat Salleh already engineered their products to fail at fixed time. McD ice cream machine is proof of that. And that is a COMMERCIAL product!!

Today Jap products isn't like the 80-90s. They are starting to engineer their products to fail at certain time frame too.

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post Jan 12 2024, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jan 12 2024, 01:13 PM)
I used to be fascinated by lexus. For me, it speaks elegant. Until i see toyota duplicate their design and make it cheaper. and now i no longer want it.
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U can say the same to perodua and Toyota.
I mean who wants Toyota when u can almost the same but cheaper by lots?
But still... Buyer don't all time care about this.
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post Jan 12 2024, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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What do you mean Asian? Do you know that all those Japanese automakers u mentioned produce North American exclusive models other than Japanese ones? Their RnD plants are independent from that of Japanese, are they really 'our asian engineering'?

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Actually it boils down to culture and philosophy.

It's the same as you compare JAV vs. angmoh porn. JAV they lean towards natural actresses (modern ones some plastic but traditionally mostly natural); western porn is always about the BOOM factor like big boobs and asses, all plastic to the max.

Back in the car world again, Lexus is subdued luxury, while western like BMW/Merc is bling bling luxury with roaring loud V8s
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Kesian TS.... Acura/Lexus memang compete with the german makes

infinity loyar a bit, so its tough, but certain model like 350/370/400z still very popular
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jan 12 2024, 01:23 PM)
Its because of culture!

Japanese people makes things that is reliable and serves the purpose. If there are no problems with the system and technique, don't change it.

Mat Salleh on the other hand have very short span of attention. They want new nice looking products fast. This cancels the Japanese idea of making things last longer than it should. So their products will fail in an engineered manner so they could sell you their next product.

No one noticed this at all?

Most people here today adopted the Mat Salleh attitude of wanting it to look nice and fast. So they could brag they have the latest and willing to let it go after 3-5 years for the next newer thing.

Today even Japanese are not immune to the Mat Salleh ideology. Mat Salleh already engineered their products to fail at fixed time. McD ice cream machine is proof of that. And that is a COMMERCIAL product!!

Today Jap products isn't like the 80-90s. They are starting to engineer their products to fail at certain time frame too.
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No reason to keep 20 years old car around. 15 is consider great already
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Is our asean people poor.

That's y Japanese made a cheap car that suit poor people

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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Because their parent companies which are more famous also make cars for other segments.
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 12 2024, 12:47 PM)
Shouldn't it be the other way round?

Western cars are notoriously fickle to maintain.
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Exactly
And dare to say technology and engineering is good.

My ass technology is good la.
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 12 2024, 12:47 PM)
Shouldn't it be the other way round?

Western cars are notoriously fickle to maintain.
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Exactly
And dare to say technology and engineering is good.

My ass technology is good la.
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 12 2024, 12:47 PM)
Shouldn't it be the other way round?

Western cars are notoriously fickle to maintain.
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Exactly
And dare to say technology and engineering is good.

My ass technology is good la.
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there are only 2 japanese

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Cibai lah, just go to the US and see which cars more on the roads, Japanese or European. Sure Japanese lah...
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 01:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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I used BMW / AUDI / Merc and Camry. I'll pick Camry everytime .

I wont touch lambo and porsche ( if i can afford )
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jan 12 2024, 12:47 PM)
Shouldn't it be the other way round?

Western cars are notoriously fickle to maintain.
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I once read a comment about European vs Japanese cars.

Both would be meticulously designed and engineered. However, the Japanese would take in consideration of their customers: the worst possible scenarios and habits such as rough driving, not serious about maintenance etc.

Japanese: "How would the worst drivers handle our car, lets take that into account."

Whereas the Europeans are like "fack you, we designed the cars this way, you follow our manual exactly to the letter. If anything goes wrong, it's obviously your fault for not following it."

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Japan next target is Gundam, space battleship Yamato and SDF1 with full complement of vf-1 fighters. Cars are way below such aspirations.
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jan 12 2024, 12:41 PM)
Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. Why cant these top tier Japanese brands compete with western brands like bmw, Benz or even audi, what more to say porsche lambo McLaren.

Is it our asian engineering is poorer and western has better technology or we purposely produce inferior cars so that we can sell cheaper?
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why must you compare to western?
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post Jan 12 2024, 02:32 PM

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2024 still legacy auto japan vs german lel

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Lexus, Acura, Infiniti not trash lah! They smooth, reliable, value kings. Euros got sporty handling, fancy tech, brand prestige, but pay for badge! Lambo-McLaren-Porsche? Dream cars, not daily drivers. Choose what fits your style, budget, don't follow hype. Test drive, find your car soulmate! Now teh tarik time, let's talk cars! ️☕️


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