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post Jan 7 2024, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:15 PM)
Any feedback on the technology? OLED vs QLED.

Once i decide the tech i want, then only i plan to decide the brand.
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Could I humbly suggest you to do more reading on "mini led" vs "oled" instead as you're looking at the wrong technologies.

QLED TVs are still LCD TVs with LED backlight but with an added "quantum dot layer". But this is something common, which most LCD TVs come with...

So right now the industry is still ONLY divided between LCD and OLED.

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The thing you should look out for in LCD technology is the type of backlight, which currently mass market available is "MINI LED". This is way more advanced and more $$ than conventional LED backlighting or "full array local dimming" (FALD) tech you may see in some TVs like Sony or others...

Why is backlighting important? This almost essentially equates to picture quality...

The reason why the colours on OLED pop so much is due to the infinity contrast aka pitch black. The individual pixels are self illuminated and can turn off individually as opposed to LCD which needs a backlight to light up the pixels..

Mini LEDs mean the backlighting are composed by tiny mini LEDs which enables selective scenes to be lit up instead of the entire scene. This means darker scenes can remain dark.

For now, OLED is still king of picture quality, deeper blacks than mini LEDs, however, OLED has the relatively lower brightness compared to mini LEDs. This is crucial if your viewing environment is going to be bright. But in a dark/pitch dark environment, OLED is still king.

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Get TCL.

QLED.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:12 PM)
why LG don't bring in the 42 version?
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I also feddup waiting for 42". I bought 48" C1 few months ago for RM3200.

But 32" 4K oled coming soon.
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jan 7 2024, 12:28 PM)
For me it’s OLED n LG cos Life is Good.

OLED colour is more natural to me. Mum n wife prefer QLED. Depends on who wants it. U can visit some electrical shops that show OLED n QLED side by side n hear them explain it. Not all salesman able to explain it well. They’re just worker try to assist customers. Experienced salesman n fan of TV can tell u exactly what u want to know. Hard to find such ppl in electrical shops
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Thanks for the feedback. What is the reason your wife/mum prefer qled?

If we didnt put it side by side, its hard to differentiate between oled and qled right?

QUOTE(khreve @ Jan 7 2024, 12:30 PM)
First, Location:
TV in a dim lit bedroom  (buy OLED for its blackness and color accuracy, but weaker brightness)

or

Living hall TV (bright area, QLED better for high brightness and viewing angle, full array local dimming is a must)
next to consider is either Android vs Tizen vs WebOS.... (the UI and the apps available)
next based on above requirements pick model suits your needs
(unless you had certain pref brand)
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I am putting in hall, but the hall has tinted glass, so it will be abit dark. I dont think high brightness is needed here.

Any feedback on the android/tizen/webos? I didnt heard of it before. Currently using samsung smart tv led, which have some apps like youtube inside. This is android right?

QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 7 2024, 12:33 PM)
No QLED - not for human use
QLED - B40
QLED with mini led 2023 version China version - lower M40
QLED with mini led 2023 version non China - upper M40
OLED - lower M40
QD OLED - upper M40
Sony QLED with mini Led - T20
Sony QD OLED - T10
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How to know if they are using mini led? Written on the box? And is sony really that good? Most of the sony items are overpriced, but quality so so.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 7 2024, 12:44 PM)
which model is good value buy? so many choices, blur liao
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Budget?

The best value is Samsung S90C when you bought it last November

Now you are too late.
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LG, you won’t even want to look at others after that
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:49 PM)

How to know if they are using mini led? Written on the box? And is sony really that good? Most of the sony items are overpriced, but quality so so.
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They don't write on the box.

You just Google the information regarding the model


Make sure above 2000nits and more than 1000 zones. Less than this you will regret
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 7 2024, 12:46 PM)
Get TCL.

QLED.
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I'm an actual TCL C635 owner and I suggest to stay away due to laggy, extremely slow software experience (just navigating through youtube/netflix apps) which sometimes freezes and I need to restart the TV. Wifi speed isn't that great too which causes slow buffering or video stopping..

Get something else that can run Google TV better.. perhaps the Sony TVs? hmm.gif
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Oled all the way. Those who said oled inferior is delusional.

Regarding burn in, very2 hard to occur unless ur watching the same content for 12-18 hours everyday, for months.

RTINGS already done extensive test on this, out of 100 oled tv, only 4 suffered burn in. (All tv playing the same content, 18 hours a day, for 4 months,. After the test, only 4 tv affected by burn in)

So under normal usage, burn in is kinda impossible to happened.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 7 2024, 12:46 PM)
Could I humbly suggest you to do more reading on "mini led" vs "oled" instead as you're looking at the wrong technologies.

QLED TVs are still LCD TVs with LED backlight but with an added "quantum dot layer". But this is something common, which most LCD TVs come with...

So right now the industry is still ONLY divided between LCD and OLED.

_________________________________

The thing you should look out for in LCD technology is the type of backlight, which currently mass market available is "MINI LED". This is way more advanced and more $$ than conventional LED backlighting or "full array local dimming" (FALD) tech you may see in some TVs like Sony or others...

Why is backlighting important? This almost essentially equates to picture quality...

The reason why the colours on OLED pop so much is due to the infinity contrast aka extremely dark blacks. The individual pixels are self illuminated and can turn off individually as opposed to LCD which needs a backlight to light up the pixels..

Mini LEDs mean the backlighting are composed by tiny mini LEDs which enables selective scenes to be lit up instead of the entire scene. This means darker scenes can remain dark.

For now, OLED is still king of picture quality, deeper blacks than mini LEDs, however, OLED has the relatively lower brightness compared to mini LEDs. This is crucial if your viewing environment is going to be bright. But in a dark/pitch dark environment, OLED is still king.
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Good feedback. Didnt knew about this at all thumbsup.gif

So its still LCD vs OLED after all. Let me read more on the mini led as per what you suggest. But based on the comments here, seems like OLED is still the superior tech and i might get this, as my hall is not that bright.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 7 2024, 12:51 PM)
I'm an actual TCL C635 owner and I suggest to stay away due to laggy, extremely slow software experience (just navigating through youtube/netflix apps) which sometimes freezes and I need to restart the TV. Wifi speed isn't that great too which causes slow buffering or video stopping..

Get something else that can run Google TV better.. perhaps the Sony TVs?  hmm.gif
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My 85" QN85C Samsung is Tizen but it's damn fast.

It's blazing fast.

I open TV can straight stream without waiting

I thought smart TV slow.

But surprisingly Samsung TV Tizen no need to boot. Just open TV and it is already can steam

I am surprise
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My LG OLED line up
65 C9
65 CX
48 C1.

Best screen for netflix and gaming
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QUOTE(sixshot @ Jan 7 2024, 12:53 PM)
Oled all the way. Those who said oled inferior is delusional.

Regarding burn in, very2 hard to occur unless ur watching the same content for 12-18 hours everyday, for months.

RTINGS already done extensive test on this, out of 100 oled tv, only 4 suffered burn in. (All tv playing the same content, 18 hours a day, for 4 months,. After the test, only 4 tv affected by burn in)

So under normal usage, burn in is kinda impossible to happened.
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I didnt watch the same content, just normal content.

The burn in i am currently facing is 2 dots (around 5cm diameter) on the screen, with whitish color. This is burn in right? Now my tv looks like a tv with 2 nipples
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:55 PM)
I didnt watch the same content, just normal content.

The burn in i am currently facing is 2 dots (around 5cm diameter) on the screen, with whitish color. This is burn in right? Now my tv looks like a tv with 2 nipples
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You gonna face same problem with OLED

Better buy lcd with mini led
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:49 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. What is the reason your wife/mum prefer qled?

If we didnt put it side by side, its hard to differentiate between oled and qled right?
I am putting in hall, but the hall has tinted glass, so it will be abit dark. I dont think high brightness is needed here.

Any feedback on the android/tizen/webos? I didnt heard of it before. Currently using samsung smart tv led, which have some apps like youtube inside. This is android right?
How to know if they are using mini led? Written on the box? And is sony really that good? Most of the sony items are overpriced, but quality so so.
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Suggest you watch some "mini led" vs "oled" youtube videos and within mini LEDs there are different number of zones and brightness levels which can affect picture quality and usability.

But seriously la, the epitome of picture quality is still OLED. Current latest OLED tech is QD OLED with quantum dot layer (like in QLED) but there were some brightness issues in Samsung's QD OLED (S95B if not mistaken). OLED still not as bright mini LEDs but might be sufficient if you are not viewing in a bright environment..

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:55 PM)
I didnt watch the same content, just normal content.

The burn in i am currently facing is 2 dots (around 5cm diameter) on the screen, with whitish color. This is burn in right? Now my tv looks like a tv with 2 nipples
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pls consider as normal content(NEWS, SPORTS, TUBES, DRAMA/SERIES) will burn in OLED quicker compared to movies(pixel more active)

so also for normal content, don't bother spend OLED TV price for these content.... QLED(improved version of LED) more than enough
even local dimming not compulsory(living hall)

unless you are looking to max out spending then go either OLED or microLED

* btw, manufacturer will keep on churning out display tech names/acronyms that confused consumer
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:08 PM)
Guys, planning to replace my current LED TV due to burn in issue.

Any idea which is better between QLED and OLED in terms of reliability? Or any pros and cons? In terms of picture quality, OLED should be better based on articles I read.

Would love some actual feedback from actual users here, instead of those reviews/articles available online.

Ignore the price, as I believe the price difference is negligible for something that you will use multiple years.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:49 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. What is the reason your wife/mum prefer qled?

If we didnt put it side by side, its hard to differentiate between oled and qled right?
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Because it's more bright and colourful, so they liked it. It's easier to compare side by side
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 7 2024, 12:46 PM)
Could I humbly suggest you to do more reading on "mini led" vs "oled" instead as you're looking at the wrong technologies.

QLED TVs are still LCD TVs with LED backlight but with an added "quantum dot layer". But this is something common, which most LCD TVs come with...

So right now the industry is still ONLY divided between LCD and OLED.

_________________________________

The thing you should look out for in LCD technology is the type of backlight, which currently mass market available is "MINI LED". This is way more advanced and more $$ than conventional LED backlighting or "full array local dimming" (FALD) tech you may see in some TVs like Sony or others...

Why is backlighting important? This almost essentially equates to picture quality...

The reason why the colours on OLED pop so much is due to the infinity contrast aka pitch black. The individual pixels are self illuminated and can turn off individually as opposed to LCD which needs a backlight to light up the pixels..

Mini LEDs mean the backlighting are composed by tiny mini LEDs which enables selective scenes to be lit up instead of the entire scene. This means darker scenes can remain dark.

For now, OLED is still king of picture quality, deeper blacks than mini LEDs, however, OLED has the relatively lower brightness compared to mini LEDs. This is crucial if your viewing environment is going to be bright. But in a dark/pitch dark environment, OLED is still king.
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Someone finally talk sense here.

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 7 2024, 12:08 PM)
Guys, planning to replace my current LED TV due to burn in issue.

Any idea which is better between QLED and OLED in terms of reliability?
What TV you using currently?

And how is your TV watching time environment?
Brightly lit area? Or dark cozy ?


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