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post Dec 27 2023, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(novo @ Dec 27 2023, 11:15 AM)
My Zeiss drive safe lenses(for night driving) is around RM2k after 15% discount. Titanium frame another 1k. Takes 2 weeks to arrived.

Another Transition lenses(glass turns darker at Sun) is rm700 with rm300 big frame oakley lookalike. Few days siap.

Backup Cheapo spec with no function under rm400 from mall chain store optic shop same day can siap.

Basically its all depends on your budget and what function u need it for.
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this , depends ur budget and what function u need .

if u kena hard sell by sales girl and kena hook up for rm1k spec which only worth rm300 , not optical industry fault , it is TS hamsapness fault biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 27 2023, 11:29 AM)
Is it? I bought from Focus Point some more...I also don't know kena scammed or not dllm but the guy show me like got the "branding name" on the glass under fog/mist.

So after that I am like fuck it, ain't gonna spend so much for specs. 500 max...and so I got the Kodak lens...seems so far so good.
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i think u should be using Crizal lens which under essilor , they have coating issue for the past 3 yrs lens , which after fog , u can see Crizal words


QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Dec 27 2023, 11:33 AM)
i used Hoya last time because can claim. then after switch job cannot claim anymore go do cheaplack lense. after wear 1 day i straight take out from own pocket and do back branded lense.

your eye will get tired super fast on normal lense. i wear my specs all the time. so wear cheap lense really take a toll. if you are used to cheap lense. dont go with the expensive one. its a point of no return. laugh.gif
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indeed , use a suitable lens with suitable prescription .
the diffrence between normal brand lens and branded lens is about clarity , after 6-12 months usage u might see huge diffrence .


QUOTE(QuickFire @ Dec 27 2023, 11:37 AM)
Yea I need advice on this too. I got Nikon Seemax lenses for my 450 astigmatism 3 years ago and the coating has peeled off. I got them for like RM 2k+ from Iconic Lab in Mid Valley.

Few weeks ago I went back and the price for the same lenses are almost RM 4k. Wtf? I can't be spending 3-4K every 2-3 years on this per pair... especially since I have 2 pairs of glasses.
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no need use nikon lens , not really good .
can pm me for my advice , free consultation for u . (send me prescription)


QUOTE(SixteenNine @ Dec 27 2023, 12:24 PM)
I need special glass that turn darker. Photochromic is good enough for me. Because very silau when noons. Driving is bad
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u might have astigmatism already , it is not about the lens anymore , is about ur eyesight power .



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post Dec 27 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Dec 27 2023, 12:39 PM)
u guys are so funny. complain about RM1000 specs.

My theory is simple. Eye is the most important organ, some say kukuciao but i disagree. Anyway handphone u all can spend 5-7k but eyewear 1k is too much? lol
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Except a Rm2k spectacles isn't technically better than a RM500 spectacles.
Above a certain price, all you're paying for is brand name and perhaps design to a small extent.

Better brand =/= can see better.
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post Dec 27 2023, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Xsence @ Dec 27 2023, 09:11 AM)
Dah ckp brp kali, nak beli spec cari tu Hunakadoo or something along the line
His from /K and I've yet to see anyone dissatisfied with him here
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/k 20k lvl... should not be a problem if need to pay rm1.2k lense
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QUOTE(blvckskvll @ Dec 27 2023, 08:50 AM)
So last nite i bring my wife to change her spec

At first the salesgirl (cute cheeky amoi) said all spec frame in the cabinet are rm180

With lens that can change colour + protect from blue light will add rm200 so total for the spec will be rm380

Then another lady (mature awek tudung) bring my wife to do eyecheck and do some consultation and suddenly introduce a lense that can relax the eyes and the price shoot up to rm1200!!  doh.gif  bangwall.gif

So i said its ok, no need that lense, just proceed with the rm380

Then suddenly if i like to proceed with that, need to wait for 1-2 weeks for them to order

WTH??  doh.gif  bangwall.gif

Is this a normal practice? Bcoz now i realise like previous eyewear shop kinda do the same shit
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Aku dulu kena kat lot 10 .
One malay boy entertaint me. He a.bit slow
But i am ok with it. Dia jenis kaki sembang dgn customer
Dtg supervisor dia ( chinese ) terus take over job
Takde cakap banyak2 terus bagi harga ( take it ot leave it )
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post Dec 27 2023, 02:29 PM

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never trust kedai optometrist. I usually go for yearly eye check at Vista Puchong. From there I got my rabun berapa degree, then only bring it to eyewear shop to do glasses.
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QUOTE(blvckskvll @ Dec 27 2023, 08:50 AM)
So last nite i bring my wife to change her spec

At first the salesgirl (cute cheeky amoi) said all spec frame in the cabinet are rm180

With lens that can change colour + protect from blue light will add rm200 so total for the spec will be rm380

Then another lady (mature awek tudung) bring my wife to do eyecheck and do some consultation and suddenly introduce a lense that can relax the eyes and the price shoot up to rm1200!!  doh.gif  bangwall.gif

So i said its ok, no need that lense, just proceed with the rm380

Then suddenly if i like to proceed with that, need to wait for 1-2 weeks for them to order

WTH??  doh.gif  bangwall.gif

Is this a normal practice? Bcoz now i realise like previous eyewear shop kinda do the same shit
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Its normal la.

The charge for Frame & lenses are different.

Frame you can pick based on your liking.

For lenses depend on you eye.
- Power
- Glare


On Power, depends on how good the person who check your eye.
- Some depend on modern machine result only
- Some time your glare can affect your eye power & they tend to assume your eye power is the issue.


On lenses
- If you select expensive lenses or glare protection stuff sure la the price naik.
- You to understand your own behavior & work nature to decide on type of lenses you want to buy - same like insurance - don't overkill


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post Dec 27 2023, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Dec 27 2023, 12:39 PM)
u guys are so funny. complain about RM1000 specs.

My theory is simple. Eye is the most important organ, some say kukuciao but i disagree. Anyway handphone u all can spend 5-7k but eyewear 1k is too much? lol
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this ,
malaysian lack of it , mostly tak jaga

QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 27 2023, 12:39 PM)
i realize all the cheapo frame is tend to be heavier, more stress to your nasal bone, the optometrist recommend me IC berlin and it is very light, but the price is extremely on the high side
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ic berlin memang expensiv , last time i got dealership , now no more .. price up too much when it become famous.
u can try others brand one with ic berlin design , like masarata .
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Dec 27 2023, 09:37 AM)
Multi focal works, but takes a long time to train your eyes co-ordination to work with it
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nop i was using it for a year... blue light, with what different power at different angle.. it made my eyes so lazy.

QUOTE(lawliet88 @ Dec 27 2023, 09:37 AM)
Progressive or anti fatigue? The essilor one
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blue light with multi focal point.

QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Dec 27 2023, 09:40 AM)
Of coz less than a week. But they will still quote you 1-2 weeks just to be safe. Especially end year with lots of holidays like this. Their lead time will be the same coz in the end they all send to the same factory to fit in the lenses
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no shit.. mine is already less than a week. they will tell me usually 3 days will get it.. guarantees within a week to get it. Again which shop you go oh?
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Dec 27 2023, 09:11 AM)
Dah ckp brp kali, nak beli spec cari tu Hunakadoo or something along the line
His from /K and I've yet to see anyone dissatisfied with him here
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post Dec 27 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Dec 27 2023, 12:39 PM)
u guys are so funny. complain about RM1000 specs.

My theory is simple. Eye is the most important organ, some say kukuciao but i disagree. Anyway handphone u all can spend 5-7k but eyewear 1k is too much? lol
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Not everyone buy RM5-RM7k phones, I definitely don't.
My phone is RM900, less than RM1k , my multifocal is RM1.3k.

It's more expensive than my RM900 phone.
I'm in the group that if have RM5k, better buy laptop instead.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Dec 27 2023, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Dec 27 2023, 02:49 PM)
this ,
malaysian lack of it , mostly tak jaga
ic berlin memang expensiv , last time i got dealership , now no more .. price up too much when it become famous.
u can try others brand one with ic berlin design , like masarata .
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How to jaga? Everyyear go checkup? Eh nowdays I got cleaning project at setapak condo. Near your place ya. Can drop by ka? But takut your guard don't like cleaner Leh. Ayam low spending power type of species.
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Dec 27 2023, 02:02 PM)
this , depends ur budget and what function u need .

if u kena hard sell by sales girl and kena hook up for rm1k spec which only worth rm300 , not optical industry fault , it is TS hamsapness fault biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

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Is Hoya still more expensive than Essilor these days?
Zeiss is the best currently?
I made mine at MOG


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post Dec 27 2023, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Dec 27 2023, 02:29 PM)
never trust kedai optometrist. I usually go for yearly eye check at Vista Puchong. From there I got my rabun berapa degree, then only bring it to eyewear shop to do glasses.
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u need find experianced optometrist , or u can say it is the same things too when u looking for a reliable honest doctor .


QUOTE(Gratitude2022 @ Dec 27 2023, 02:56 PM)
How to jaga? Everyyear go checkup? Eh nowdays I got cleaning project at setapak condo. Near your place ya. Can drop by ka? But takut your guard don't like cleaner Leh. Ayam low spending power type of species.
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can , update me before coming , low spending also can get good spec from me . i don't mind . biggrin.gif


QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Dec 27 2023, 03:01 PM)
Is Hoya still more expensive than Essilor these days?
Zeiss is the best currently?
I made mine at MOG
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depends products , there's tooooo much of products under this 3 brand to compare
*Anti fatigue lens , Single Vision lens , Multifocal lens , Driving lens , Sports lens etc
. hoya , zeiss , essilor , still the top 3 in the market now .
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If u know ur specification, buy at lazada Rm10 only
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Dec 27 2023, 03:06 PM)
depends products , there's tooooo much of products under this 3 brand to compare
*Anti fatigue lens , Single Vision lens , Multifocal lens , Driving lens , Sports lens etc
. hoya , zeiss , essilor , still the top 3 in the market now .
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Multifocal. When I changed my specs sometime early 2022, Hoya was still more expensive than Essilor.

Few years before, they promoted Essilor a lot, went back after COVID, the amoi was neutral.
While Focus Point used to promote Hoya a lot, now dunno

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Dec 27 2023, 03:21 PM
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As long as you don't go to MALAYA OPTICAL. All branches memang scammer & cut throat.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 27 2023, 12:01 PM)
another one kana scammed. plastic korea.
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ikr, coz before this the opto i go always give me good price and not plastic one.
but wat to do. hahaha thats the cheapest.


QUOTE(bill11 @ Dec 27 2023, 12:28 PM)
got myself an oakley with zeiss lens.. all in rm800 - foc. - which shop you get this.
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if i remember correctly, frame was close to 700. got 30% from there
then carld zeis new one. there's 2 type of new. i take the cheaper one. if i pick the expensive one will kena 1k
overall i kena around 850rm i think

went to Jac's Opto in paradigm.

my friend went to another famous opto branch, with zeis lens (dont know new or old version) + oakley frame (no discount). he kena 1.2k.
facepalm. haha



edit: just check my zeiss card, the lens is: Zeiss FSV ClearView
new one right?

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Relax lens are truly helpful. My eyes no longer stressed out with it.

I look at computer all day at work, my previous lens (or glasses) not giving me this comfort.

I paid 1.1k.
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Dec 27 2023, 09:15 AM)
The lens are marked up tremendously in case made wrong, they can still gain handsome profit margins by producing a replacement.
blue light danger / filter already debunked as marketing tactics.
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Walao next time I think better use a normal glass...despite all these years wearing blue filter what my power still goes up
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Dec 27 2023, 03:06 PM)
u need find experianced optometrist , or u can say it is the same things too when u looking for a reliable honest doctor .
can , update me before coming , low spending also can get good spec from me . i don't mind .  biggrin.gif
depends products , there's tooooo much of products under this 3 brand to compare
*Anti fatigue lens , Single Vision lens , Multifocal lens , Driving lens , Sports lens etc
. hoya , zeiss , essilor , still the top 3 in the market now .
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Ok boss. Itu fon belakang digit 87 still valid ya.

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