i have a 1100 sqft apartment. no carpet. no pets. is there any good robot vacs for around rm1k? i'm looking for one that will run daily and keep the bigger visible dirt like hair etc at bay. i do a proper dusting, vacuum and mop once a week.

xiaomi?

you want to have mop function or not?

as vacs ..dont just look for quoted suction rate ..some robot quoted higher rate but actual x boleh ; better go youtube look for review before purchase




btw my condo used ecovas omni x1 for like almost 1 year ..so far quite good [that time i bought like 4.2k]

just need to make sure u clean and replace part according to schedule (part u can get ori or cap ayam part ..both working fine)

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Dec 13 2023, 08:51 AM

xiaomi x10 (just bought yesterday)
roidmi eve plus (good for vacuum unfortunately it died after near 3 years.)

Dibea. I'm using it from 2019 until now. Still going strong. Using it daily, only need to replace brush maybe once a year

This post has been edited by am84496: Dec 13 2023, 09:00 AM

thanks for tips. i need just vacuum but havent seen any that got no mop. your evovacs beyond my budget of around 1k

ecovacs also got cheaper version with mops.. i was using one but many years ago.. try search on shopee/ lazada for better deal

thanks all. now i got some new names to check out. anyone use TP-LINK TAPO RV30? got big battery, lidar and around 1k price. i have some tp link devices like camera and smart plug. they seem ok reliablility.

looks good

just u need to do additional survey on the spare part cost and availability.

all those brushes need to replace to get optimum performance

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Dec 13 2023, 09:58 AM

Some alternative for u, not sure if u have heard of this brand before, I was targeting it but currently out of my budget for now. https://s.lazada.com.my/l.meWq

Cheapest Lidar robot vacuum is Xiaomi S10, I got one for RM530 + no shipping costs

This post has been edited by xperiaVuser: Dec 13 2023, 10:54 AM

Hi guys,

Tumpang old threat, anyone recently bought arobot vaccum cleaner?

I am looking for one, mine old one die today(Debia brand) and its quite old almost 6+year?

so i am looking for a new one too, anyone can recommend? budget also below 2k

Wont go wrong with Roborock

tq. is LDS same as lidar? the shape looks the same.

tq. didnt consider that. quick search on shoppee ... 4x side brush rm20.64; 2x hepa filter rm16.91; 1x roller brush rm27.17. which part will i be changing the most?

This post has been edited by roadie: Dec 13 2023, 06:45 PM

ya so many recommendations i see for that brand.but its beyond my budget of around 1k

maybe try upping your budget just a bit. roborock Q series should be able to get less than 2k during promo period now

its worth investing a bit more into a good robot vacuum, you will see the difference vs those cheap brands with poor app design, support

I was wondering about this model too. The RV30 Plus variant. No need to install / register new platform / app as I've been using Tapo plug, light bulb and camera for quite some time.

tq will keep a lookout

from my ecovas usage

frequent change is hepa filter
then side brush
then mop pad
last is the main roller brush

its all fun and games in the 1st year (well also depending on your cleaning regularity)

something else to consider are spare parts, mops, tanks, brushes, sweepers all will kaput overtime ( not mentioning deterioration of battery)

recently bought from taobao for my xiaomi ones, work as good as new again instead of forking out for a new unit and runs twice better from the bigger battery. anyway as some others mentioned depend what you want. want mop, want vac only or auto suck/empty bin etc all types also got

Yup, it's the same

park for reference going to buy one soon

Same with me. I'm just looking for a decent robot vacuum with no mopping function.
Would be great to find a robot that vacuums and self-empty at the dock once it's done.

The nearest match I've found is iRobot™ Roomba® i7+.

You can just skip using the mop. Remove that mop pad and just use vacuum from the app

Skip Roomba because they dont use Lidar at all. Its gonna be a mess mapping your house and navigating around

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Dec 14 2023, 03:19 PM

I have an older Ecovacs and recently got the Tapo RV30 Plus

I would say get the a robot vacuum with external dust bag as my older Ecovacs model would get quite clogged after 2-3 cleaning leading to weaker suction power.

The Tapo RV30 Plus is great cause it auto suck everything into the dust bag at the dock after every cleaning session. The internal dustbin at the robot vacuum is almost fully empty so the suction power is perfect every time.

I don’t need to deal with the messy process of cleaning the robot vacuum every week after switching to this. The dust bag is super easy to replace. Only downside is the cost of replacing the dust bag every 2-3 months.

Old old Ecovacs comes with LiDAR and this new one is pretty much the same. Perhaps it’s a little faster.

Aaahhh... this is good info! I've read a lots of reviews but the authors never mentioned this.

Yeah, for the price iRobot selling their Roomba, there's no LiDAR. 1 of the reviews said that the Roomba needs a bit longer time to "learn" compared to competitors brands that have the LiDAR function.

For my case (Dreame L10S Ultra) this is workable. I'm not sure about other brands, maybe there's some brands that dont allow the robot to be used unless the mop pad is attached

But i am pretty sure almost all apps provide you the option to vacuum only

Waaahhh.... I was also eyeing this brand (as well as Roborock and other brands) during the Shopee 12.12 sales...

RoboRock S8 MaxV Ultra

The S8 MaxV Ultra is Roborock’s most intelligent hybrid robot vacuum and mop. It automates the entire cleaning process as it navigates each room and dodges obstacles. The robot automatically returns to its compact docking station to empty its dirt bin, refill its mop, and charge up its battery. On top of that, the base cleans itself and washes the mop with hot water then a blow dry to ensure everything is clean and prevent odors. This Roborock variant can even be connected directly to plumbing pipes to provide the robot with clean water and drainage without you having to fill up and empty tanks.

Roborock's built-in AI powers a voice assistant, uses cameras to recognize messes then adjusts its cleaning settings, and avoids obstacles without relying on another device or the internet. Plus it supports the Matter protocol to work with any smart home ecosystem going forward. Hell, this gadget can even cruise around your house to act as a security camera or take video calls while you're away from home. But it's the S8 Max V's FlexiArm robotic arm that steals the show. This side brush extends and cleans corners effectively, while paired with a spinning side mop that will clean near edges. Corners and edges are the most challenging areas for robot vacuums to deep clean.

The S8 MaxV Ultra will be available from Roborock for $1,800 this April.

Eufy Clean X10 Pro Omni

Eufy's 2-in-1 x10 Pro Omni robot vacuum packs powerful suction and plenty of mopping pressure to tackle messes that range from fine powder like flour to breaking up mud caked onto your flooring. Its new pentagon-shaped body and mopping pads rotate 360 degrees and are designed to fit tight corners. This flagship model also has its own maintenance base complete with a mop washer and dryer.

With that said, the x10 Pro Omni is stacked with self-care features and implements cutting-edge smart navigation and AI mapping for half the price of the Roborock above. Its "See Smart Obstacle Avoidance" technology recognizes over 100 different kinds of household objects, including toys, cables, shoes and even dog poop accurately. That's because it's powered by the same algorithm used by the car industry's autonomous driving technology. Additionally, the LED sensor ensures a smooth, accurate clean even when operating in dark or low-light rooms.

Although simple, one of the x10 Pro Omni's exciting new app features allows you to set up cleaning profiles. One example eufy showed off is "after dinner cleaning" whereby the robovac automatically cleans one particular area of the home, like a kitchen or dining room at a scheduled time. The Eufy X10 Pro Omni will be available on Amazon and Eufy.com on February 20, 2024 for $799.99.

Narwal Freo X Ultra

Narwal's new flagship Freo X Ultra is a smart robot vacuum and mop that's powerful yet operates quietly. Its 3.2L capacity can compress up to 60 days of dust inside of the vacuum itself. This is potentially going to be one of the best robot vacuums for pet owners due to its Zero-Tangling Floating Brush which captures 95% of hair without getting tangled up. Thanks to its aerodynamic engineering the brush strategically positions each strand to create airflows that prevent tangles.

The Freo's onboard computer uses AI to power Narwal's DirtSense technology. This monitors water usage during mopping to identify heavily soiled areas on the home map. DirtSense tells the robovac to repeatedly hit these spots and can assess its performance based on the cleanliness level of the water. The robot thoroughly mops down troublesome areas until DirtSense sees the water readings improve.

The Narwal Freo X Plus ($469) has many of the same features as the X Ultra, save for the self-cleaning base station. Both models will be released on Narwal.com in March.

Eureka J20

Eureka’s RollRenew Mopping System continuously keeps the Eureka J20 robot vacuum fresh while it cleans your floors. This technology works by spraying the mop with fresh water from five nozzles. While this keeps mops sopping wet, the scraper squeezes out the dirty water into an integrated 250ml wastewater tank — so that once the mop passes over your dirty floors, its surface comes back as clean as when it started.

This ingenious cycling belt and water tank system keeps the J20 wet yet clean at all times so that it can wash your entire floor. While it lacks cameras, the J20's precise laser navigation lets the vacuum quickly comprehend your home's layout and detect obstacles with ease. If your home has carpet the bot has an advanced ultrasonic carpet detection system that flips the mop over to a non-fabric side. Once it returns to its all-in-one base station its integrated ventilation system uses a built-in fan to ensure air circulation to keep it clean and prevent odor buildup.

The Eureka J20's release information and pricing will be available later this year.

Deebot X2

The Deebot X2 Combo is Ecovac's first whole-home cleaning system that adds a handheld vacuum (with upholstery and multi-surface attachments) to the X2 OMNI robot vacuum, mop, and auto-empty station. This combines a closet's worth of cleaning tools into a single gadget to save space in your home. Unlike standard robot vacuums, the X2 ditches a round profile for a square design for edge-to-edge cleaning precision that covers 99.8% more ground surface in a single job.

Its 8000Pa suction power rips through dirt and debris while the mop can scrub stains away and lift from hard floors to carpet. The X2 COMBO boasts all of the X2 OMNI’s navigation and smart home features, including an embedded navigation system for a greater range of motion, fast mapping, and faster response times. Its "True Detect 3D 2.0" technology scans and precisely avoids obstacles in your room. And like the Roborock it has a responsive voice control system and other smart home capabilities.

With Matter 1.2 now available, the X2 COMBO will be Matter-ready out of the box, so it will work with any smart home ecosystem once certified. You can get the Deebot X2 Combo for $1,599 in March.

DreameBot X30 Ultra

This robot vacuum prioritizes convenience above all else with its 7-in-1 function self-cleaning base station and option for a home water hookup. Its two built-in scrapers clean the base station as it enters and exits the dock. Meanwhile, the mop is washed and dried with hot air after each job.

Designed to be nimble and fit under step edges and doorframes, the DreameBot x30 has an expansive FlexArm that reaches as far as 4cm deep into nooks and crannies for a more thorough clean. The X30 Ultra uses intelligent 3D mapping and path planning smart navigation technology to create an efficient, customized cleaning route for every room. Built-in sensors work continuously while the robot moves to detect and avoid up to 70 types of obstacles, including cables, shoes and pets.

The compact X30 Ultra will be available for pre-order starting Feb. 28, 2024, in the U.S. via Dreame's official website and Dreame's official Amazon store with prices beginning at $1,699.99.

Samsung Bespoke Jet Bot Combo

Samsung's Bespoke Jet Bot Combo is the company's first all-in-one floor washer that uses on-board AI to identify floor types, avoid objects, and spot stains on your hard floor or carpet. Once it’s detected a stain on a hard floor, it’ll travel back to its cleaning station to warm up its mop pads with high-temperature steam and water before returning to the mess. This heat pairs with high-speed spinning mops to scrub off the toughest of grime.

Once the AI detects carpets it automatically lifts the mop's attachments or removes and stores them back at the base. The self-emptying and cleaning charging base not only refills the bots tank but also steam washes the mops to keep them clean and prevent odors. Plus it also cleans and dries the mop as well.

This model is still in development with features subject to change. Its current model the JetBot AI+ retails for $1,300 for reference but lacks mopping capabilities.

Source: 7 best robot vacuums of CES 2024

sry necro back old thread.



how tapo rv30 plus serve you till today?
do you still recommend to get this model or got any better option out there?

Great but FYI I don’t bother using mopping function on robot vacuum

I’m using it to purely remove surface dust and debris on daily basis and it’s amazing for this use case

Suction power is strong and the auto empty dock means I don’t need to clean the RV every week

For condo, it takes approximately 5 months for the bag to be full with daily use

Of course it’s not as advanced as those 3-4K robot vacuum but those are better mainly for the mopping function and they are still not great at mopping floors.

I am looking this model too and shopee sells 1799...

Hii guys, can anyone recommend best robot mop vacuum without dustbag?

what do u guys think about the TP-Link tapo RV30 Max Plus?

price with voucher comes down to RM586

Is that a good deal?


Not expecting perfection, just a passable robot vacuum at a steal to get me through the years while waiting for budget vacuums that can get decent enough stuff and they worked out the kinks.


yes there is some manual maintenance to do, on their product page there is a bunch of youtube to show you how to do it, so they dont leave you hanging.

1. mop pad have to manually clean or it will drag the dirt around. so i think after each clean cycle, u should clean it. So have a spare mop pad while u do that

2. the hepa filter seems to be washable. clean it now and then. so doubt u have to replace this often. but if u do, there are spart parts available for purchase for an affordable price, so no issue there.

3. if there is blockage in the pipe, they also have a video for that. not sure how often u clean that, but the video demonstrates how easy to do it if need to, like a tissue blocking the hole or something.

4. and u have to untangle any hairs caught in the roller.




obstacle detection for it according to online seem almost non existent (bumper cars mode basically), so u have to move things out of the way prior to running the clean mode.

charging takes 3-4 hours or so? it can operate for 1-2 hours or something.

It can climb at an angle somewhat if moving between rooms that aren't quite flat, but not too steep I suppose.




anyway just wondering, would u buy this at this price? or is there something better for the mop and with obstacle avoidance for same or slightly higher price?


Someone reported a minor revision?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tapo/comments/1kri...elift_hardware/



Vacuumwars doesn't mention rv30 max plus, but this does

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-robot-vacuums

It rated it best budget robo vacuum 2025


Oo noticed Tubi added to his blog. in the forum he mention rv30, but in blog seems he updated to rv30 max plus which is what i just ordered as well

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/tapo-rv30-max-plus/

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 7 2025, 04:01 PM

the rv30 has one without the dock. so i think those are bagless, so u have to empty from the container on the robot itself.

the rv30 max plus, this one comes with a dock which the vacuum fills into the dock where a bag is installed. it auto seals when removed.

but there is a trick where u can intercept the robot before it docks, so u can empty it out without using the bag (but then if that is the case, may as well get the dockless model)


for myself i see the price for the bag is cheap, and someone quoted can last up to a year (probly less if u have pets). so the cost for bag to me is fine, but i would understand if u want a bagless design robot vacuum

I have a Xiaomi S10+ bought last year, nothing fancy but very happy with it since it replaces manual work

But both water tank and dust bag and mops pads all need manually change

I am eyeing one for myself that would last 10 years, how much should my budget be at the very least?

Saw a Xiaomi x10+ going for rm 1k. So almost double the rv30 max plus.

But what u get ai and obstacle avoidance. Is it effective? Don't know.

It also has 2 rotating mop pads

how much u paid for it? 1k+ ?

how well did the AI object avoidance worked for it?

did u have to move objects from floor before letting the vacuum work, or was ok to leave it be and the vacuum will avoid running over stuff?


according to reviews, seems like the rv30 max plus is the kind that will ram stuff over an d be obnoxious because it doesn't quite do object detection well or at all?

so was wondering how the S10+ fares in that regard?

Also it has a spin mop right? how effective is it for mopping?





This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 10:10 AM

I'll say even lidar object avoidance sucks. I have a qrevo master from roborock. It works fine but not perfect for sure.

Don't expect clean clean if u use vac and mop at the same time. There might be hair strands on the floor at times.

Actually I was wondering about this.

So is it better to do vacuum first without mop pad. Then let it run again with mop pad on 2nd run? Would that work 🤔

Fyi my rv30 max plus arriving today so hope my experience is sufficiently good 😅

I see that Tubi doesn't even use the mop feature. But I need it though. As long as it works more or less that will be good enuff for me. If got dirty cake hard to clean, I can just do that manually(rarely happens). Just a light mop with cleaning fluid for tiles is sufficient in addition to vacuum 😊

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 10:56 AM

Guys, is this type of robot vacuum cleaner noisy ? Thinking to buy those cheap Xiaomi robots to try but worry about the noise level

Yes should separate vacuum and mopping if you wan it to be cleaner. With moist on, it would be harder for the robot to vac them off from the floor. I am not sure if your robot has the option for 2x. Mine does. So usually I would vac+mop the area 2x .. that would keep the floor very clean. I don't have to separate them. I have kid that dirties the floor daily with food. But the robot works well for my case. 1x cleaning is sufficient if you clean daily. I do 2x on weekend when no one is around.

Depending on your suction. To me at 10k pa .. I don't think it's too loud. If cheap one usually around 6k? Should be fine. I let my robot clean at night when I'm sleeping.

which model specifically?



not saying get this one (since i think the rv30 max plus is better), but as an example u can hear how loud it is. if u go to product page they show the decibel volume for the noise.

in the app u can set a silent mode. i saw from 60-65 became like 55-60db? is that quiet enuff?


i wouldnt schedule it during the wee hours, put it that way

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 06:53 PM

i just setup and updating firmware. at the bottom it says dont use cleaner fluid because will corrode the water tank. so how?

Does that mean can use water only nothing else? i was hoping to use something like magiclean fluid which is good on tiles, but now i'm not sure i can

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 07:19 PM

I bought both Tapo RV10 and RV30 used for less than 1k together just to try out.

Overall, the RV10 is simply too stupid. It committed suicide by going down the staircase and spilled it's guts out.

The RV30 was slightly smarter but will never learn of new area unless reset the whole unit to factory default.

For example, if an area was previously unavailable during the initial learning process, it will avoid it. But after the area was available, it still refused to relearn. If reset to factory default then ok.

ok the robot vacuum is now mapping. when i got it, the battery had roughly 60-70% charge already.

wow.. it just rushed into a bunch of ethernet and optical fibre wires. worried LEL

ok i had to rescue it. to be fair those cables were a mess, so i wont blame it for that i'll sort that out later.

kitchen was too steep. to be fair the spec did say 22mm or something. so can only do half of the kitchen, not the other side.


as it's mapping, i can see it moving on the tapa app map. it's very intuitive. and when it gets stuck (2 times so far, both times my fault ) it will tell u, then u can go rescue it.

good thing there is geo fencing so i can block problematic areas it gets stuck. without that, i dont see how this would be usable. but it is, thk god

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 08:07 PM

I don't care though .. haha I just use whatever I have. Using water only may not be too clean? Just use whatever u have ba .. robot will likely last you around 2 to 4 years at most. So don't be bothered.

like this, i can do a mop with a mop manually, then later the robot do it with water. i dont have to do a particularly good job, just only add the cleaning fluid to the floor, the robot will mop it with water, problem solved.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 8 2025, 07:37 PM

Haha .. if ure ok with that .. why not. I'm just too lazy. So I'll let my robot do everything.

hm... for cleaning vacuum, not as good as i had hoped.

i sus i have to tune the vacuum to go turbo mode. i have to do once it finishes it's first clean. still going through the settings. but using as is, i dont think the suction is strong enough to pull in the dirt.

also my mistake adding the mop attachment. i thought removing the mop pad was enough (it isnt). Got to remove the mop pad attachment as well, cause it has a sticky part where the rugs get hooked :/

it's still day one, i'll give it a week or a month before i decide



noise volume not that high. but i think cause i did not max out the fan yet.

*spoke too soon. when the vacuum wants to dock cause finish clean, the auto unload to the bay, that one really noisy (like a typical vacuum cleaner volume level). 99.9% of time the volume when not dock unloading was fine though, so no big deal. But dont run this at wee hours if u got neighbors


other things i noticed,

when i do manual clean, i dont see where u can adjust the vacuum pressure, and the water levels for mop. i had to setup a scheduler, and from then only i can see


few observation

1. default vacuum fan though quiet, doesnt seem to suck enough. but if u set max, it is very loud, keep that in mind. anyway i think max should be effective. turbo? not sure

2. if u not mopping, DO NOT use the mop attachment. even if u remove only mop pad, its not enuff. i made a mistake.

3. during initial mapping, expect it to get stuck. once u identify what the stuck issue is, u MAY or MAY not have to add a geo fence to block vacuum from going to those problematic areas.

4. full clean at default vacuum suction, it took 30-50% of the battery charge.


*update

5. it tries to get by with 1 spinner, but feels like 2 would be better. but its understandable why thats the case, since its a budget model, they only give u a taste to so u buy a better model. but this is tapos highest model, any plans for more premium?

6. yes vacuum max does better but not all the way. the more premium vacuums can do double or more the vacuum suction. any big impact for cleaaning? no idea. but regardless it can suck, just not a deep clean. but i would its good enuff.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 08:22 AM

Try unlocking you learnt map. Map will auto lock after some time.

I guess you get what you pay ba .. haha

I don't have such issue wit mine. Pretty much let it go auto mode and let it clean. Return to dock to clean the pad, back to work.

It is usually worth to spend more for better robot if you don't want the hassle. But don't expect you pay top notch the robot is perfect. Just that it serves better for avoidance. Even with rbg camera the avoidance may not be perfect. If you're paying for lidar only .. expect it to keep banging here and there.

Some spots where it got stuck was under couch. So had to geo fence.

Few things I see u can pay more for that this model could have done better

1 better obstacle detection. Ai. Privacy issue? Not sure

2 better mopping e.g dual mop vibrator , retractable mop pad

3. Tangle free, dual roller

4. Automated self clean for mop pad

5. Better climbing. This can climb, just not high enough for what I require


Even if get older model I think those cost 2-4 times the price I paid for this. At least minimum rm 1k +

For this tapo, it would be worth it at this price if it can do decent enough vacuum. But still undecided on that since still testing. For mopping water only doesn't cut it. So will let vacuum robot vacuum first, then do a regular quick manual mop to add the floor cleaner solution, then let the vacuum do mop with water after that. For deep clean can do manual for tough spots, no big deal


For the app the tapo app is like a general all in 1 app for all their tapo devices. Despite that, they got sub sections in it for robot vacuum. Seemed to have ample settings for vacuum. Didn't see many major issues other than the fact they force u to sign in to TP-Link user account and use cloud with internet. It had good mapping and tracking where the robot was on the map

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 04:04 AM

Good idea 💡 let it clean at night. Never thought of that before

I'm looking at the one with mopping function but worry the water will short circuit the robot in long period of time usage. Do you think the water will cause the robot to short circuit if the water leak due to wear & tear usage ?

Few contenders vs the rv30 max plus in the rm 600 - 1k price bracket. If u got other suggestions what is competitive in this price range, feel free to share

roborock q5 pro, Xiaomi s20+, iLife t20s

Roborock and Xiaomi no dock for auto unload. The tapo and iLife do

But both the roborock and Xiaomi have better rollers



Very good explanation for the roborock here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/..._max_vs_q5_pro/

special mention, Narwal Freo X Plus

the mop is similar to rv30 max plus (barebones). Also doesnt have a waste unload dock station. but it has a better roller that is tangle proof *supposedly, and has 2 of those small sweepers instead of just 1. if not mistaken, security wise, the narwals store on the chip? rather than cloud. I can't verify since i dont own one, but somebody else said this is the case. Price? i think rm1k ish? but not sure since the shopee store is down cause the seller on holiday



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 07:43 AM

Probly not best person to ask this since I'm new myself. First robot here.

That said I didn't hear about short circuit. Just fill water in tank properly without splashing and if do, simply just wipe it off with cloth any minor spills. Then attach to the robot.

The only warning I've seen is, not to use detergent in the water tank as it says it can damage it. Maybe more premium robot can handle but I don't know since I don't have 1

I didn't get the chance yet to try the mop feature for my rv30 max plus. But from the looks of it, it's really basic, water only. Not even a vibrator or dual rotating mop. The serious moppers cost a lot more.

But even tubi said those aren't quite great yet either, this is y I was reluctant to pay so much until the tech is more matured

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 06:50 AM

If you're using it for vacuum only. I think all robots are decent enuf to do it. You usually pay more for the mopping part.

Mine has all the functions you described above. It does it job. I don't have to do much manually aside from discarding the waste water and refilling the clean water.

I would say it's pretty worth it to invest a better version if it's gonna be your bread and butter.

I flooded my kitchen once and used my robot to clean it. It made it worse at first by spreading more water to other parts of the kitchen. Then it returned to it's dock to clean the mop and continued cleaning. That's where the real moping starts.

No issue so far. If you wan a robot that can get the job done without hassle. Do consider investing a better one.

rm758 if not mistaken during a lazada sale

The object avoidance is generally ok apart from carpets and thinner flatter table legs, usually i just pickup my kids toys and big boxes cause i want the floor to be mopped

yes spin mop, in my case the only thing the robot rams over or decides to conquer is my computer table legs, like these



but it'll just make a noise and I just let it be lol

hm... my robot couldnt find dock.

i sus if the dock got moved slightly, it will go crazy.

Or if u pick up robot to do something, it gets confused later on.

The faq said, lock map asap, so if like u got to move the robot manually, it doesnt get out of sync with map.

Anywaay i had to remap again....


anyway because of previous mapping i know where to put the no go areas. so this time it didn't get stuck

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 11:42 AM

just an update


1. i redid mapping. but at some point it kinda got lost in a room and couldnt get back to base station. so i had to lift it up, check the underside, then put it back down. then it got back.

2. at base station, felt like it was not charging though it said it was. so i resitted the base station then let it try to dock again, which it did. cleared app cache then waited few minutes. it changed from 41 to 42% it is charging albeit slowly.


i see on forum somme users for tapo rv30 plus (not max, but they are probably similar enough) were also reporting dock recharging issues

https://community.tp-link.com/en/smart-home...um/topic/618130

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tapo/comments/1kjh...attery_failure/


i'll withold judgement for a week. still too soon.

will try resit the base so it's more flat against the wall. it's in a slightly tight space with a short cable to power plug, so it's at a slight angle. the robot does not like that since it wastes time trying to turn to angle it properly before it makes contact.


Ps: notice the front sensor had the plastic removable thin strip still attached, so i removed. that may have messed up the sensors previously and i didnt notice. i also fix the base station so its properly flat against the wall with room on both sides so the robot can reverse park into it. it did it in 1-2 tries so thats as good as it gets


*update

ok i think charging is ok. i'll just time it to be sure it's charging within spec. previously i think it was a loose contact due to base station positioning. u wanna make sure u get that right.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 12:59 PM

Are you too pedantic or the robot itself is bad?

But maybe I'll share mine so far on a better robot.

Basically, I have no issue with any of the problems that you have mentioned. Just a little bumping from time to time but object avoidance is pretty much good overall. Cleaning, I do get quite clean floor with vac and mopping, unless the stain is badly ingrained onto the floor where strength is required to remove it. It will always be able to find it's dock even when I shift it away. Self cleaning, etc. I don't bother cleaning my house on my own nowadays since I got the robot. It pretty much do a good job. Only refill and discard the waste.

Can you recommend me the brand you're using, how much is it?

I am using roborock after doing my research. The model that I'm currently using qrevo master. Iinm it has been discontinued and replaced by qrevo curve. If you're willing to spend more. Get saros10.

BRB thanks will look at Shopee for the price first.

R u?

Well do u think robot circling for 15 minutes trying to dock is considered normal? If u think that's ok, then I'm speechless 😅

Anyway after remap (set dock nicely first to avoid potential issues. Also during remap, pause to set no go zones identified on first try, then resume), did first clean, but not enough juice so it had to charge before resuming. All normal till the end, but when it tried to go back dock it couldn't go the normal route it went before, so after a while it decided to zip through the block zone. It got through without getting stuck so I give that a pass. Then it docked without issue. So this time it was ok from beginning to end with some minor hi hiccups. Did not get stuck or tangle issues. Was completely hands free. At that point lock map.

For the clean out of a 10 score, I give it a 8.5 for vacuum. For mop 6

Mop got lower score cause I had to manual mop to add cleaner fluid to floor first, before letting the robot do a pass using mop and plain water.

The end result no smears detected, floor is clean. Vacuum at max suction picked up 85/90%

After job done, have to do check up to empty water tank, check the roller to clean, mop also clean. Not gonna clean mop everyday, so gonna remove mop attachment and do it at least weekly, but rest of the days just regular vacuum

I haven't had it long enuff so I'll withold my recommendation for now. But so far so good.

To fix just had to

- check sensors has all the plastic stickers removed
- position dock properly before mapping and don't move it later

- in map editor , add furniture, mat, no go zones. Give the robot as much info to help it navigate

- after first clean, lock map



So overall satisfied


*Update

Setting room clean order is important. Personally I order small rooms first, and big room last. I wouldn't recommend simply just do a clean all without setting a room order but to each their own.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 9 2025, 06:17 PM

Definitely not normal. Mine will easily detect its dock and parks it even with obstruction. No remapping since day 1. Also I get to set 2 different maps. Maybe downstairs and upstairs. It will get things done by itself without mapping again.

Dam so manual .. haha .. I don't have to do anything aside from refilling and discarding the waste water every 2 to 3 days.

Time to consider a better one haha

I think saros10 is on promo now? But do your own due diligence ba. Too many robots on the market. But saros is currently the top of the line for roborock. You can't go wrong.

Investing on a good robot is worth it. But at the same time, they release too many new models within a short period of time and eventually obsolete over time. So do some reading before deckding one

to be fair though, i put the dock in a spot where its a bit narrow. no choice since its the only good spot i could find. after some furniture re arrangement i managed to add a bit more space.

actually i dont really think its reached the point me wanting to replace it with anything else just yet. i still haven't found any that is better with the same price point. remember, i paid rm 570 ish for this. that is already cheap. all the others i saw that was competing against it were rm 750-1000k or slightly more.

from my first successful full clean, it did a good enough job to satisfy me, and i better understand the manual labor to maintain it. so for me especially for mopping, it's more of an assist rather than outright replacement for human manual cleaning. for the deep cleaning i probably have to do manually and thats ok with me.

if i had paid like rm 2k- 4k, i would EXPECT/DEMAND the robot really do all the automation bells and whistles an all that especially for the price paid


well look here


u see the line going straight through the bottom couch. this was just one issue where it got slightly confused and spent a short time trying to get back to the dock station. in the end it decided to go straight through the no go zone to dock. it didn't physically get stuck so whatever, i only care about the results anyway as long as there is no big issues.

but u see the narrow area between 2 couches it previously got through fine before, why did it go round and round confused and couldnt go that way to go dock?

i sus cause i was editing map with furniture, so maybe it did something, i'm not sure. will see in the next cleaning session.

also notice the movement pattern. the left side is much more methodical in a good pattern. but in the bottom right it looks haphazard. most of the other places it has the left side pattern for cleaning elsewhere especially open spaces. i think because previously i sent it back to dock to recharge because it was running low. not an issue yet for now.

but in summary, it did manage to do the full clean without me having to pick it up at all. and the issue only happened at the very end but even then, when it zip through under couch eventually , it just went straight to dock and parked like a pro smoothly

so reason why u probably did not encounter similar issue, u have more open spaces than i


*update

ok so i finished doing the cleaning maintenance for the rv30 max plus. it was easier than i thought. but i did not find the cleaner brush that supposedly comes with the vacuum other than that it was fine. the tangles in the main roller i could undo so far. too bad it's not a detangle roller, but u get what u paid for i guess. i see some reviews for other vacuum say in spec has detangle but when u see the reviews that may not be the case, so u have to check if it does or not


malz, how often do u clean the roller and the hepa filter? and side brush? after each run? i'm wondering if i can do that after every 2 maybe 3 days? if everyday is a bit

i don't plan to use the mop with just water only. ill use it once a week when i do a manual mop with tile cleaner fluid followed up by the robot water mop full clean and clean it after use.

by the way i noticed in the app, it has a timer for when to replace hepa filter, side brushes etc. how does it know though? is there a chip in those parts so it can identify them? What happens when it goes to 0? but the part in question looks fine, then what? will see what happens when it happens i guess. Because i'm not gonna replace a part if it looks fine.

by the way in the tapo app for vacuum they got like a part shop for the dock to add a water proof mat for it. u can click it and it will bring u to store to purchase (not going to of course)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 06:22 AM

on shopee 5759 and 7779 (without discount 15,998 ) ? my bottom-line is only 1k maybe up to 3k max, and only if it could do automation/mop/vacuum really well if not, whats the point paying so much? anyway we all got our own different budgets, so not criticizing anyone elses choices

u getting? let us know how it performs thats a lot of money, i would be expecting perfection. i assume the later one with a hand is to open doors?


this is the saros10 you mentioned



it says the saros10 can charge in about 2 hours? mine took way longer to charge

also the saros10 does the retractable mop, clean the mop pad, dry the mop pad. extending/retractable side brush also automates the water as well (refill/drainage). obstacle avoidance seems to be good according to review. price? on shopee somewhere between 4-5k u get what u pay for i guess.

the saros10r with dual rotating mop seemed way better than the saros10 which had a single big vibrating mop. but the saros10 had a heigher mop retract than the saros10r. but that said, to me seems the saros10r is better because it mops better tbh

another interesting difference was the lidar. saros 10r has an internal lidar, whereas the saros 10 has a retractable lidar. The 10r has the newest obstacle avoidance tech by roborock. obstacle avoidance for both models seem to be better than average. because of their lidar design, their height is much smaller making it easier to fit under tight spaces which is very good.

they both can also go up slopes at certain heights. better than tapo? most likely. Will it be able to reach my back kitchen where it has a big slope step? i dont know but if not it would be a waste of money buying it only just for that hoping it does



this is the other roborock model (the most expensive one) with the arm


*update

uh... 180ml dustbin size on the vaccum, BECAUSE they had to accommodate the space for the hand which according to the review which was gimmicky hit and miss half the time. so after paying so much thats what you get?

feels like they got to make more trips back to dock to unload to make room more often. and these robots work on a timer, when they r out of juice, they have to go back to dock to recharge (even my cheap tapo does that too).

tbh i'm not convinced for the asking price

just seems to me ur paying to be a beta tester for robot with hand. the trade off is too big, especially the hand doesnt seem to be that practical as it currently is based on the youtube review. at the end of the day ud still be paying for it, and personally i would want my moneys worth



*update

based on the reviews i would say the Roborock Saros 10R would be on my buy list (because it pretty much does most of what i would want a robot vacuum to do, and based on the reviews the results look good so seems quite effective. And it can even handle detergent for mopping and not simply water only). just have to wait till it or something similar to it reaches my buy price. but for the next 5+ years i'm ok with the tapo, so i can wait it out

right now the roborock 10r is on shopee for RM5,759


by comparison the tapo rv30 max plus only cost me rm 586. mopping i still have to do manually (details in previous post), and some manual maintenance for cleaning the robot itself, but other than that, it can do automated vacuum. the clean job seemed fine to me as long as it's not a caked in stain. as for obstacle avoidance i doubt the tapo is as good as the roborock 10R, but despite playing bumper cars it still worked fine without issue. Navigation to go around home to clean, then go back to dock all worked (and thats really what matters most). for me i rather stick to the cheaper tapo thats good enough and for the cheap by comparison

sure the Roborock Saros 10R looks damn awesome, but for almost 10 times the price what i paid for the tapo? for me, no (waiting for price drop)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 07:58 AM

Bro. The price is really high & over budget for me. Over 5000 & above 😱😳

How about Xiaomi vacuum robots, they around 2000, are they good enough?

Your cleaning map quite messy haha .. mine is something like this .. it cleans my room and the dock is at my living room


Attached thumbnail(s)

I wanted saros when it first released (about 9k?). But as you can see the price gets slashed so fast after they release the 70z. Not worth buying when the robot is first released. Hence I ended up with qrevo master although saros10 was rather tempting.

I don't think I need a new robot now, mine is doing fine and I think it's good enuf. Haha .. I got it around 3k when it was on promo.

I haven't tried Xiaomi though. You have to do your own research. You can look at other roborock options too. Saros is just the top line of their product. I think with 2 to 3k you should get a decent one with rbg camera. Better avoidance.

On my 2nd clean it was perfect. Clean cleaning line patterns. And this time it went between the couches narrow path, no issue.




It did get stuck in one spot (not shown in pic) when trying to get back to dock but a no go zone should fix that


I couldn't find the clean brush, apparently it's hidden in the dock once u flip the lid. Tbh it wasn't effective using it to clean the hard packed dirt for maintaining the robot but better than nothing I guess. Can do a deep clean if really needed on a need to basis
The tapo app works but I encountered issue where widget no longer worked. It worked ok before but not now. So I deleted the widget on Android and tried link device again, then try dock, cannot.

I can dock via tapo app so whatever

Tested , seem it can climb over my exercise yoga mat which is somewhat thick. But it will push it around sometimes. Overall was ok though

Apparently there is a limit to the number of no go zones . It's disappointing they add a limit but luckily is was sufficient

Cleaning for me took 45 minutes so not bad. Lots of charge left after finished clean. I was using max vacuum suction, no mopping. Only 1 pass


because i accidentally close door for 1 room, it decided to skip that and do the other rooms first. so after it docked when done, i went to tapo app and point click it to go clean the room it missed (opened the door of course) so yeah, if a room had door close it will just skip it for that clean session.




wow... ur roborock app also has furniture recognition. mine doesn't even have that in the app. have to manually add where they r. i'm not sure if the robot is actually using that information or not (probably is but i'm not sure). As long as it does it's job smoothly, thats all that really matters

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 12:53 PM

I noticed that. Even this rv30 max plus on release was 1k something. Now is cheaper.

This is exactly why I wouldn't rush to buy even if it's amazing, not until the price starts to make sense or fall into my spending budget

9k 15k, wtf 😭


Anyway I c we both have the same plan 😊

3k for qrevo? Im not familiar with this model. I will YouTube it later.






Not long ago lowyat posted some robot vacuum stores opening mid valley or somewhere? And they had promo prices then. I wasnt in market to buy back then 🥲
https://www.lowyat.net/2025/340716/roborock...ramid-starling/




😬 Just only priced at... Marketing speak as if ur getting it at a good deal price 😅


*update

ooo qrevo master priced at RM2,679 (probably lesser with discount voucher if u got shopee vip vouchers or something maybe)


saw the vacuum wars review for the qrevo master, seems to have all the bells and whistles i need, so then, what exactly does the Saros 10R have over it to justify such a huge price increase? the newer obstacle avoidance system? but according to the reviews, seems like the qrevo master is doing great as is, so....

https://global.roborock.com/pages/robot-vac...cleaner-compare

https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/..._qrevo_masters/


guess i'm not the only one who thought so


@malz89

how is the qrevo master detangle for the roller? does it actually work? or do u have to manually remove the hair from roller each time to clean it?

Also because it marketed the mop pads as highly automated for clean and swap, is it totally hands of for maintenance? or do u still have to manually maintain the mop or not? this is what i'm curious about



*update


the differences are

- Auto Detergent Dispenser
- FlexiArm Riser Side Brush
- High-speed Sonic Mopping
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/...tating_mopping/


- Automatic Mop Detaching
- 3D ToF Navigation ( the master uses LDS Laser Navigation. Seems the 10R replaced that for this 3D Tof Nav)

master has bigger water tank and covers more square feet, yet the 10r has a bigger battery.


the auto detergent dispender sounds interesting. any good? and seems the saros 10r is their first model to have this feature
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/...e_doubts_about/


But the qrevo master supports detergent, but u got to add manually
https://www.reddit.com/r/Roborock/comments/...g_qrevo_master/



wow... avoid curtain, so how? not too big a deal for me. the tapo i have brushes slightly against the curtain, but then it stays away, so no issue for it. so i'm assuming the saros 10r works similar, or does it keep a further distance? no idea.


qrevo master ranked 19 on vacuumwars, behind the edge, curve, slim, no idea y.


here they say to pass on master and go pro instead



By comparison the Saros 10R scored rank 3. But its vastly more expensive
https://vacuumwars.com/vacuum-wars-best-robot-vacuums/#19







unless you want really need the detergent auto dispenser, doubt i would go for the saros 10r for that price, when the qrevo master does a bang job as is with very few caveats (according to the reviews) for much cheaper. it doesnt do the mop swap, but at least it cleans it. master seems the better value buy in the 2-3k range unless somebody has a different reco?

roborock even has 2 new physical stores in malaysia which doubles up as repair center, so if anything goes wrong, u know where to go.


summary

- u want a cheap usable robot just for vacuum but ok with mediocre mopping, and don't mind less automation, then Tapo rv30 max plus (500-700 price range). But is it the cheapest? no, because i saw different brand models like the MOVA Robot Vacuum E10 selling for RM474 but it has no dock for unloading trash into a bag. Not everyone wants a bag so may or may not be a big deal to you.

- u can spend for mid-range, something good for mopping,more automation, and better obstacle avoidance, then qrevo master (2-3k price range). maybe there is another similarly like it but cheaper, but what that is, i dont know

- money is no object, you want the best even if the gains might not be best bang for bucks necessarily but is an improvement nevertheless, then Saros 10R it is ( 5 -6k price range ). In vacuumwars they mention other top performers like the Ecovacs X9 Pro Omni, Dreame X50 Ultra among others. so i'm not necessarily saying Saros 10R is the #1, just that based on the review i saw seems to do pretty much everything for the high end segment. Maybe the competition does it better for cheaper for their high end model. u have to dyor.


If u have a different opinion for this, feel free to share, i would like to know also


*update

sorry, the qrevo master is rm4349 lazada. so u can ignore 2-3k cause that is wrong.

https://my.priceme.com/Roborock-Qrevo-Maste...-928416459.aspx



RM2,679 is for the qrevo PRO. which is what the youtuber recommended over the master. requires further investigation. doesnt matter if something is good, if the price is not right to make it a good buy

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 02:32 PM

Okay thanks I will think about it first for a while, I didn't expect a robot vacuum to cost over 5000.

anyone using dreame L10s Pro?
i see the auto mop cleaning function mcm very nice, no need to manually clean and change mop pad
currently using deebot for 4years+, it get worse every time the firmware update
not sure they did it on purpose or wat

Dreame L10s Pro Ultra Heat

rm 2379 on sale shopee


reviews



https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dreame-L10s-P...e.808285.0.html


these days reddit is flooded with ai and bots giving fake reviews. so take with a grain of salt
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dreame_Tech/commen...10s_ultra_heat/


buyers guide
https://vacuumwars.com/ultimate-dreame-robo...ers-guide-2025/

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 04:11 PM

pricing almost same as roborock, function wise both also similar....hard to decide

i found this side by side comparison

https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/tools/c...pro/46161/60895

*update

wow... i just noticed both those 2 models dont even have a hepa filter. My cheap tapo rv30 max plus does. all it is, is just a hepa block filter where vacuum is. so that fine particulars dont free float. i'm assuming it only blocks it when exhausting to the dock dust bag, not fully sure. bottomline it has one.

so not sure why these more expensive robots dont have it. could it because the older robots did not have this feature back then? seems like the robot vaccum is moving at a quick pace. Wait long enough and the competition get left in the dust (hopefully cheaper too)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2025, 04:32 PM

ok i been using Dreame top of the line robot since Dec 2023. Bought it during 12.12 the best period to buy this robot because that time they gave me accessories and additional 1 year warranty on top of the official 2 years. Total damage 3.8k and the model is L20 ultra.

Been using it non stop 2x mop+sapu everyday since day 1. Now my final schedule is sapu+mop 1 cycle morning. Then night sapu once and mop twice. I need to seperate the mopping because the battery cannot last for the whole dinner schedule, end up have to work half way then recharge and continue again which is already 11pm very noisy. Now my robot quietly mop at night.
Once my robot was out of commission for 3 weeks due to my own fault.

My thoughts.
- House significantly cleaner. It's nice having clean shiny floor all the time. I run mine without detergent also can have smooth shiny floor.
- accessories very cheap, buy in bulk from China.
- honestly think the model L10 also can work the same. You dont need kuat vacuum power, the most important part is the battery so u can just set it to do 2x/3x cycle. The manufacturer smart enough to route it so it do criss cross pattern on each subsequent cycle. I also never use the hot water function.
- Few things u really need to take care for smooth operation. Arrange furniture away especially chairs around dining table, so it can clean up nicely. Quite a lot of time my robot stuck between legs of chair. And it will still jam if u got lego size toys, or paper on floor or nerf gun bullet. I dont have pet, but i guarantee u it will ais kacang the pet shit into the roller and spread it everywhere while it "clean". You have been warned.
- Also most annoying is the robot will run out of battery even though it's idle after stuck. Need to carry it and park it back to the station.
- the water tank is not big. My routine requires me to top up every alternate day. Or it wont run because "insufficient water". Best if u can top up $$$ do the auto top up installation. cost about 1k last i check, you cannot DIY this cos they include some sensor for the auto top up thing and the wall drilling. I checked.

So far i am very happy with it. No parts broken yet. Battery still okay after 18 months.