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 Scooter Vs Kapchai Fuel Consumption, Is the difference really significant?

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alexei
post Dec 7 2023, 09:41 AM

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Bike - compression ratio, tank size, published full tank distance:
Vario - 10.6, 5.5L, 284km
Dash - compression 9.3, 4.3L, 262km

Real world distance per tank will be a huge difference, I'll definitely take the Vario
- when the bike reach low fuel, the Vario used 4.7L while Dash used 3.5L
- that's 34% in tank size relative to Dash
- FC wise, Dash is 15% better
- effective distance to low fuel, Vario will go further than Dash

Maintenance wise, the CVT will need tender whenever something feels wrong, quickly need to check so the pulley system won't makan. Can take up to 500 to service, repair or replace

Just a quick mention, my 400cc scooter is 20~22km/L with 15L tank. It goes 250km to low fuel, consuming 10L. It consumes twice the amount of kapcai, but travels almost similar distance per tank...
alexei
post Dec 11 2023, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Randomboi @ Dec 9 2023, 11:25 AM)
Thanks for sharing. Very insightful information. 15% isnt that significant i guess.

Yeah. Am considering to add scooter to my inventory and have considered the additional service cost. However, after joining several scooter group and feedback from friends, apparently scooter consumed more fuel. So wanna triangulate this information to see how significant it is since i dont think i'll be interested if i have to consider both the additional cost for service and the additional cost of fuel (if significant).

Very clear information. Thanks again for sharing.
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why are you considering a scooter in the first place? you should ask the groups and friends, if they will go back to kapcai or stay with scooter
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post Dec 12 2023, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Dec 11 2023, 02:58 PM)
Yamaha Nouvo LC scoot. Dr Pulley weights 12g, Yamaha Indo belt. YSS rear shocks. Everything else standard 3 - 3.5 litre RON 95 per 100 km at between 60 - 80 km/h. Full tank is only 4.5 litre, so maximum about 160 km on a full tank till dry. Maintenance so far isn't that bad actually.
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standard is how many gram?
you using the round pulley or slider type?
alexei
post Dec 12 2023, 02:34 PM

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different ppl buy bikes and put in different considerations

different stroke for different folks

I also never imagined I'd buy a scooter and here I am a proud owner of a maxi scoot

my arsenal consists of that scooter, a few 2 strokes and another 4 stroke machine, and I can say, I've worked on improving fuel economy on the 2 strokes for many years, and reached to 40km/L at one time, I now keep them because they're highly repairable, and more fun that most bikes
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post Dec 12 2023, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Dec 12 2023, 09:31 PM)
Standard 11 gram. Dr Pulley is slider type. Cost about RM 80. Better top speed by about 5 km/h
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my std 25g roller, put 26g slider, wish I had gone even heavier

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post Dec 13 2023, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Randomboi @ Dec 12 2023, 11:09 PM)
Most have kapchai already and they said they enjoy the scooter due to ease of riding i.e. no need to think about changing gear. I'm planning to use for chill town ride since i have to travel between two states. The state  where i stay i have car and bike. The current state i have to stay inbetween for few weeks no transportation yet so planning to get scooter.

Initially dont mind the additional cost for service since its not that much until like 15k milleage where i need to also change belting. Suddenly got new information about fuel consumption. But now should be clear already not that significant. Will go for scooter if the price is right.
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QUOTE(Randomboi @ Dec 12 2023, 11:13 PM)
Yeah. Initially it wasnt an issue until i got contradicting information especially its on the extreme end like full tank not even 100km and people agreeing with it. Wanna investigate further that why i started the topic.
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scooter is really good for town or small city use, without highways and many stop go traffic

if full tank not even 100km, you'll have to wonder which scooter model and maintenance of the bike, to me, clearly, there is something wrong with the bike, or the tank is very small, like 3.2L but the owner considered 2.5L as full tank, and a lot of red light stops, even that is also around 40km/L (100km / 2.5L)

some scooters have start stop, such as the PCX

a more suitable reference for you would be, as I shared earlier, my 400cc scooter, 20~22km/L city ride
no other scooter (single cylinder) should be worse than this, otherwise something is wrong with the scooter

 

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