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 Scooter Vs Kapchai Fuel Consumption, Is the difference really significant?

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TSRandomboi
post Dec 6 2023, 04:05 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hello bikers

Would like to get some feedback especially from those who have both scooter and kapchai.

Is the fuel consumption really that different?

Example, comparing to the same class

4l on honda dash 125
4l on vario 125

Will the distance covered by the 4l be really huge like 50km? or just a difference of 10 - 15km?

Thanks for sharing.

This post has been edited by Randomboi: Dec 6 2023, 05:09 PM
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post Dec 6 2023, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Dec 6 2023, 04:17 PM)
Its fuel consumption.
If oil consumption there is something wrong with ur moto and needs overhaul.

If u ask me the fuel consumption for scooter or kapcai is not much unless u ride long distance on highway.
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Whoops. My bad. Thanks for the correction.

So basically at lower speed, fuel consumption should be the same.

At higher speed is where there's a significant difference.
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post Dec 6 2023, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(awol @ Dec 6 2023, 04:21 PM)
vario 160, 5L 200km
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That should be ~40km per litre

My lc can go 140km for 3l which equates to ~46km per litre

So not that big of a difference i guess.
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post Dec 9 2023, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(dinbk90 @ Dec 7 2023, 02:51 AM)
Dash 125 fuel consumption as claimed by honda : 61 km/l

Vario 125 fuel consumption as claimed by honda: 51.7 km/l

I dunno how that translates into real world fuel consumption rate but my dash125 consistently got around 49 - 53 km/l of fuel consumption with my riding average speed of 70 - 95 kmh. Just want to share my input la..  smile.gif

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Yeah. Advertisement always exaggerate. Like huawei watch claim 14 days but need to turn off all features.

53km/l isnt that bad. Thanks for sharing.
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post Dec 9 2023, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 7 2023, 09:41 AM)
Bike - compression ratio, tank size, published full tank distance:
Vario - 10.6, 5.5L, 284km
Dash - compression 9.3, 4.3L, 262km

Real world distance per tank will be a huge difference, I'll definitely take the Vario
- when the bike reach low fuel, the Vario used 4.7L while Dash used 3.5L
- that's 34% in tank size relative to Dash
- FC wise, Dash is 15% better
- effective distance to low fuel, Vario will go further than Dash

Maintenance wise, the CVT will need tender whenever something feels wrong, quickly need to check so the pulley system won't makan. Can take up to 500 to service, repair or replace

Just a quick mention, my 400cc scooter is 20~22km/L with 15L tank. It goes 250km to low fuel, consuming 10L. It consumes twice the amount of kapcai, but travels almost similar distance per tank...
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Thanks for sharing. Very insightful information. 15% isnt that significant i guess.

Yeah. Am considering to add scooter to my inventory and have considered the additional service cost. However, after joining several scooter group and feedback from friends, apparently scooter consumed more fuel. So wanna triangulate this information to see how significant it is since i dont think i'll be interested if i have to consider both the additional cost for service and the additional cost of fuel (if significant).

Very clear information. Thanks again for sharing.
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post Dec 12 2023, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Dec 11 2023, 09:11 AM)
why are you considering a scooter in the first place? you should ask the groups and friends, if they will go back to kapcai or stay with scooter
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Most have kapchai already and they said they enjoy the scooter due to ease of riding i.e. no need to think about changing gear. I'm planning to use for chill town ride since i have to travel between two states. The state where i stay i have car and bike. The current state i have to stay inbetween for few weeks no transportation yet so planning to get scooter.

Initially dont mind the additional cost for service since its not that much until like 15k milleage where i need to also change belting. Suddenly got new information about fuel consumption. But now should be clear already not that significant. Will go for scooter if the price is right.
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post Dec 12 2023, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 12 2023, 12:38 PM)
It really perplexes me why people are concerned about fuel consumption on a kapchai Vs a small scooter....you are probably not going to rack up monster mileage on a small bike anyway.

The difference isnt that significant. More of a concern is tank size and range.

Even for my Dominar, fuel consumption albeit a bit high isn't a real concern since I've been saving a few hundred in fuel bills per month switching to it from a car.

Considering a full fill up still cost less than a cup of starbux.

However, range remains a bug bear for me..considering I seldom get to ride 2 hours straight without having to stop for fill ups.
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Yeah. Initially it wasnt an issue until i got contradicting information especially its on the extreme end like full tank not even 100km and people agreeing with it. Wanna investigate further that why i started the topic.

 

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