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Quazacolt
post Dec 13 2023, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 13 2023, 11:16 AM)
Small displacement turbo = turbo lag.

Despite being smaller, less inertia, efficient turbo in modern engine, the lag is still there.
If you driven old school turbo, that is serious even more lag.

As Jason from Engineering Explained said - "Don't lug your engine."

Be it Turbo or NA.

Paddle shift is there for a reason. Downshift 2 gears, before you go.
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not necessarily.

the latest Honda 1.5 L15B7 engine would happily disagree. peak torque at 1700 RPM with a CVT that very intelligently anticipates and maintains above 2 to even 3k RPM when you need it (braking, cornering, both up and downhills)
definitely utilizing the car's ESP/VSC systems' sensors to get data fed into the TCU (and ECU)
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post Dec 14 2023, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 14 2023, 08:31 PM)
Think of regular guy cruising at steady speed in overdrive. Then simply lug the engine to overtake.

versus another person who downshift to optimal gear before the action.

I'm sure you know the difference.
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Yeah, and I'm telling you modern cars are getting smarter to compensate the lack of driver capability.

Just step on the accelerator pedal it just goes without lugging.

Auto downshift auto RPM spike auto full spool turbo ready to go effortlessly.

Hell, if that's not enough, there's always the S gear on the lever.
Civic FE e spec have no pedal shifts and never at any point of time i ever felt the need of pedal shifter.

This is coming from a hardcore die hard manual enthusiast. And i think that means something.
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post Dec 14 2023, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 14 2023, 09:17 PM)
Smarter, yes totally with you.

I think I said this before.

Question is how many gear to downshift?
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Why don't you shift the question as an answer?
CVT.

F1 had CVT and was banned. Why?

CVT took out the gearing equation that many were still struggling.

It was so good and boring that, Honda introduced fake shifts to spice things up. Totally unnecessary. But not everyone in the market understands and demands utmost efficiency.

I'd go a stretch and claim, Proton post Geely punch is so good that I've never ever felt the need for pedal shifters. The era of Preve / Suprima where they actually offered pedal Shifters were so bad, i went with manual Inspira and never looked back over 10 years ago. Manual is the way to go for me and if it isn't manual, the next best thing is whatever that's efficient and convenient that my manual doesn't offer. (And currently, latest Honda CVT drive train is a clear winner to me, with Proton punch a close second)
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post Dec 14 2023, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 14 2023, 10:42 PM)

BTW, at high speed eg:. 200km/h corner proceeding from a even higher speed straight, I have totally no clue how to handle those.
I think I will freak out when I finally make the green hell visit. For sure hire an instructor, lol.
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Got Karak highway and Sepang if your machine is really capable.

No need green hell.
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post Dec 15 2023, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 15 2023, 01:01 PM)
Sepang has places with low speed corner, follow by a long high speed sweep bend that one can accelerate to 200+ in the bend given a powerful car. Or long straight goes brake into a hair pin, with others mid speed 100+ corners.

Nordschleife is a bit different from usual GP track.

Yes, Karak highway and also somewhere near Ipoh area. But not going for that on public road. Despite I'm not a good speed obey boy, still refrain from taking bends at those speed on public road.
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Can't help you there bro
Nürburgring is too far fetched to me and definitely not something accessible on a daily/weekly/monthly basis.

I am also not interested in sims with the sole reason that there's no rig capable of properly simulating a manual shifting sensation, both gear shifting and/or clutch actuation, either that or those that are capable are out of my financial capability.

My point still stands that modern CVT today are good enough to not necessitate pedal Shifters or lock ratios.
That's just the direction moving forward similarly to how hybrids and EV can be very capable sportingly despite most of them don't even have a gearbox via KERS/brake regen/electric motors output modulations.
Hell, i personally don't like that direction either especially how they are doing away with manual gears and to an extent sports cars.

And coming back to this topic anyways - the Civic FC is definitely not as smart or efficient as the FE but it isn't completely junk and if you still cannot deal with it, there's always manual controls via pedal Shifters and locking the CVT ratios

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 15 2023, 05:46 PM

 

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