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 Malaysian won $433K in SG casino via Excel formula

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monkeyking918
post Nov 22 2023, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Nov 22 2023, 05:08 PM)
Because they actively use the Excel spreadsheet to cheat, its not card counting.

Read la the article...
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The problem is according to the report, the excel formula also didnt show its objective how to count/win. So it could be just luck for the syndicate.

To prove a case, they need to show how the formula give advantage to the player.


monkeyking918
post Nov 22 2023, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Nov 22 2023, 08:59 PM)
This is the specific part

172A.—(1)  A person must not, in relation to the playing of any game in a casino, obtain or attempt to obtain any money or advantage for himself or herself or any other person —
(a) by a fraudulent trick, device, sleight of hand or representation;
(b) by a fraudulent scheme or practice;
© by the fraudulent use of gaming equipment or any other thing; or
(d) by placing a bet in a game after the result of the game is known.

I'm not really sure if what he did is considered cheating. He didn't interfere with the game, nor did he change any outcome in the game. Card counting is not illegal. At most the casinos can ban the player.

edit: ah I see, he transmitted the info to another party, who communicated the results to him
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If I use feng shui to gain advantage, is that consider a fraudulent trick/scheme/practice?

This post has been edited by monkeyking918: Nov 22 2023, 09:32 PM
monkeyking918
post Nov 23 2023, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Nov 22 2023, 10:43 PM)
if you send info to another party, then he use feng shui to gain advantage and pass it back to you? probably

if you keep everything in your head and choose the most ong seat at the table, probably not.
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I would say certainly not. Feng Shui is not scientific proven and thus cannot be used in court as evidence.

Look at Genting, they also use feng shui to gain advantage.
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post Nov 23 2023, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(differ @ Nov 22 2023, 09:44 PM)
Not according to the law in Singapore. Any device used to counter record the cards is already an offence.
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Say if A is in the casino, he send info to B at home.

B do nothing with the info and toss a dice, then B send info back to A to tell him buy what/etc.

A by luck win a lot, is A and B break the law?

Certainly not right.

So if B now instead use a device/laptop and enter the info into a spreadsheet which does not have any clear objective as reported in the article, why A and B now break the law?

The prosecutor need to prove that the spreadsheet indeed has clear objective which is to give A advantage by doing some calculation.

 

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