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post Nov 21 2023, 09:07 AM, updated 3y ago

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post Nov 21 2023, 09:10 AM

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Number 3. Apa maksud?

Must accept first then only counter bid? What happens next if passenger disagrees with the counter bid?
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:12 AM

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Ayam will pick high bid hehe
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 21 2023, 09:10 AM)
Number 3. Apa maksud?

Must accept first then only counter bid? What happens next if passenger disagrees with the counter bid?
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:13 AM

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fare bidding will drive prices down
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nice one
i'll bid rm5 for all my rides
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:14 AM

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people gonna make fb group and suggest bid for routes in and people gonna follow that hahaha...

but also the driver can counter offer
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:16 AM

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Satu kerja nak main bid bid bila kita nak cepat lol. I hope this is optional instead of all kena.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:17 AM

 
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 21 2023, 09:13 AM)
fare bidding will drive prices down
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i'll bid rm5 for all my rides
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inb4 later grab drivers form new whatsapp group to control the price kek.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:18 AM

 
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QUOTE(emino @ Nov 21 2023, 09:16 AM)
Satu kerja nak main bid bid bila kita nak cepat lol. I hope this is optional instead of all kena.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:20 AM

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ya low fare low fare...later quality sucks then u all complain

marehsian want cheap but first class quality and treatment. LOL
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:23 AM

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this is GRAB SG is it?
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:24 AM

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it show grab also no confidence on their pricing laugh.gif

This bidding is a waste of time for driver and passenger
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:25 AM

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yeah it's goign to drive the prices down lol

good for customers, bad for drivers
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:25 AM

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Is Grab going to lower their cut of the share? Basically asking driver to work more to negotiate for better fare rate
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 21 2023, 09:24 AM)
it show grab also no confidence on their pricing laugh.gif

This bidding is a waste of time for driver and passenger
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More like InDriver is eating Grab market share with this exact same method
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 21 2023, 09:13 AM)
fare bidding will drive prices down
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nice one
i'll bid rm5 for all my rides
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Because the price is manipulated, can only bid low cannot bid higher than cap, the cap is low

Seen in indriver, untung for customer rugi for driver. Nevertheless it's a good systems in theory as it better represent supply and demand

Just the cap price manipulation ruin it all
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Nov 21 2023, 09:25 AM)
Is Grab going to lower their cut of the share? Basically asking driver to work more to negotiate for better fare rate
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I believe they still take 20% commission for every ride

QUOTE(Legozz @ Nov 21 2023, 09:26 AM)
More like InDriver is eating Grab market share with this exact same method
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Indriver will never able to eat half of the market share of grab by using this method, i don't know why Grab kecut until go play the same game with them. It will continue drive the price down and driver suffer more, especially newbie driver.

If Grab use bidding method, then what is the purpose of their surge system? whistling.gif
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:30 AM

 
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Nov 21 2023, 09:26 AM)
Because the price is manipulated, can only bid low cannot bid higher than cap, the cap is low

Seen in indriver, untung for customer rugi for driver. Nevertheless it's a good systems in theory as it better represent supply and demand

Just the cap price manipulation ruin it all
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Huh? You mean driver's counter offer can only offer lower and not higher? Sure or not?
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(lagenda110 @ Nov 21 2023, 09:14 AM)
people gonna make fb group and suggest bid for routes in and people gonna follow that hahaha...

but also the driver can counter offer
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Old driver know which price make money which price loss money

The problems is new driver don't know and mostly stupid. They just take the lowest price without calculating the hidden cost.

Seasons driver will include:
Maintenance cost,
Usage use,
Emergency fund use
All other hidden cost

New driver will usually just calculate the oil price, then got no money to maintain car after 1-2 years.

New driver will take all the low bidding job drive the price further down. Old driver can't get job also quit

They system is predatory to the new drivers, ehailing apps never teach the drivers on hidden cost
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Nov 21 2023, 09:30 AM)
Huh? You mean driver's counter offer can only offer lower and not higher? Sure or not?
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indriver bidding is like this, customer request a ride from A to B, recommended fare is RM10

Driver A bid RM12
Driver B bid RM13
Driver C bid RM8

Passenger choose driver C with fare RM8, not sure got limit on the bidding or not.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:35 AM

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Hahahaha lolllll

Becoming like stock market liao
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Nov 21 2023, 09:34 AM)
Old driver know which price make money which price loss money

The problems is new driver don't know and mostly stupid. They just take the lowest price without calculating the hidden cost.

Seasons driver will include:
Maintenance cost,
Usage use,
Emergency fund use
All other hidden cost

New driver will usually just calculate the oil price, then got no money to maintain car after 1-2 years.

New driver will take all the low bidding job drive the price further down. Old driver can't get job also quit

They system is predatory to the new drivers, ehailing apps never teach the drivers on hidden cost
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that's why u can see some sohai newbie driver go accept RM35 from KL to KLIA, just a matter of time when maintenance bill appear, they sure regret doing it. That's why i hate ehailing apps doing this, destroying the whole ecosystem and drive down the whole quality service.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Nov 21 2023, 09:34 AM)
Old driver know which price make money which price loss money

The problems is new driver don't know and mostly stupid. They just take the lowest price without calculating the hidden cost.

Seasons driver will include:
Maintenance cost,
Usage use,
Emergency fund use
All other hidden cost

New driver will usually just calculate the oil price, then got no money to maintain car after 1-2 years.

New driver will take all the low bidding job drive the price further down. Old driver can't get job also quit

They system is predatory to the new drivers, ehailing apps never teach the drivers on hidden cost
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is like credit card, take cash now, but suffer later cause no money repair car...
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:37 AM

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sorry aint not gonna enable this service

remain justgrab

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post Nov 21 2023, 09:37 AM

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Nak tiru Indrive lah tu. Also very sure yiu will accidentally select more expensive rides lol
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:38 AM

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MyTeksi (aka grab name when first launch) is to make sure all the taxi we get goes by meter and won’t “open price” when you flag them.

Seems like they forgot their roots and make fare haggling legal for their drivers shakehead.gif
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(emino @ Nov 21 2023, 09:16 AM)
Satu kerja nak main bid bid bila kita nak cepat lol. I hope this is optional instead of all kena.
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If you open higher price you get driver almost immediately, they will just accept your offer without negotiating

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post Nov 21 2023, 09:44 AM

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habislah indrive.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 21 2023, 09:38 AM)
MyTeksi (aka grab name when first launch) is to make sure all the taxi we get goes by meter and won’t “open price” when you flag them.

Seems like they forgot their roots and make fare haggling legal for their drivers shakehead.gif
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It's government job to set regulations, they are a private company to make profit

How can they survive if all their competitors got bidding feature while government don't do anything about it. If you cant beat them then join them
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:45 AM

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Kasi rename this to "haggle" function la...

Grab propose default pricing, if passenger dun like or deem price to expensive - Can propose new price.
Riders can choose to counter propose the price to a higher price they willing to take on in a stipulated time.

But once countered and accepted, they have to honor the ride, if not penalty is incurred and half penalty rate goes to passenger for wasting ppl time...

Apamcm?...
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 21 2023, 09:36 AM)
that's why u can see some sohai newbie driver go accept RM35 from KL to KLIA, just a matter of time when maintenance bill appear, they sure regret doing it. That's why i hate ehailing apps doing this, destroying the whole ecosystem and drive down the whole quality service.
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Many of them really dumb It's will took them 3 years to realize, unfortunately in those 3 years those dumb driver already ruin the market price enough that it damage all seasoned drivers too
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Nov 21 2023, 09:44 AM)
It's government job to set regulations, they are a private company to make profit

How can they survive if all their competitors got bidding feature while government don't do anything about it. If you cant beat them then join them
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That's why when Anthony Loke refuse to step in and set floor price, Grab saw this opportunity and implement this bidding system.

I can frankly tell u, this bidding system is not useful for below RM10 fare, u can put there bidding wasting your time and most driver aim for big job.

QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Nov 21 2023, 09:46 AM)
Many of them really dumb It's will took them 3 years to realize, unfortunately in those 3 years those dumb driver already ruin the market price enough that it damage all seasoned drivers too
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Really plenty of dumb driver, but indriver has plenty of "kosong" driver, no EVP, no insurance, no PSV. I don't know why Grab go and drag themself to the same level as indriver.
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QUOTE(soul78 @ Nov 21 2023, 09:45 AM)
Kasi rename this to "haggle" function la...

Grab propose default pricing, if passenger dun like or deem price to expensive - Can propose new price.
Riders can choose to counter propose the price to a higher price they willing to take on in a stipulated time.

But once countered and accepted, they have to honor the ride, if not penalty is incurred and half penalty rate goes to passenger for wasting ppl time...

Apamcm?...
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I think it would be like Indriver

Grab give recommend price rm10, then passenger can select to open price between rm5 to rm15. Eg. Passenger open rm7, from there driver can choose to accept or haggle price.

Passenger need to wait longer if they open low price, but if they open high price will get driver almost immediately
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Nov 21 2023, 09:10 AM)
Number 3. Apa maksud?

Must accept first then only counter bid? What happens next if passenger disagrees with the counter bid?
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In drive has been using this system.
Win win situation for customer and driver.
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post Nov 21 2023, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Nov 21 2023, 09:18 AM)
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Imagine peak hours instead of getting a car straight away must wait if driver accept you first
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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Nov 21 2023, 09:46 AM)
Many of them really dumb It's will took them 3 years to realize, unfortunately in those 3 years those dumb driver already ruin the market price enough that it damage all seasoned drivers too
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 21 2023, 09:36 AM)
that's why u can see some sohai newbie driver go accept RM35 from KL to KLIA, just a matter of time when maintenance bill appear, they sure regret doing it. That's why i hate ehailing apps doing this, destroying the whole ecosystem and drive down the whole quality service.
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grab memang sohai to the max

drive 39km only get RM26.50
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Pickup 4km = +rm0.90
Drop off point 35km = rm25.60

Total distance pickup & drop off 39km
Nett earning  for 39km job rm26.50

Rm26.50 divide 39km = rm0.67/km

Fuel consumption + maintenance average for bezza rm0.30-rm0.40 per/km
Average rm0.25-0.35 left for drivers after petrol cost.
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post Nov 22 2023, 01:08 PM

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What's the minimum bid? Got joy bidders?

Can setup own gang to increase the price?

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post Nov 22 2023, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Nov 22 2023, 01:06 PM)
grab memang sohai to the max

drive 39km only get RM26.50
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Nowadays on off-peak hour, above 10km job if throw u to a place where little chances of getting back to high demand area, i confirm cancel without hesitation. Last time this kind of job busuk busuk pun got RM1.00-1.20 per km.



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post Nov 22 2023, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Nov 22 2023, 01:06 PM)
grab memang sohai to the max

drive 39km only get RM26.50
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I part timer also already stop long ago, the calculation doesn't make sense

You basically sacrificing your cars lifespan to get money earlier, you don't actually get money, you sold your car lifespan and works for free. The only way driving grab make sense if you don't have other job, and the only assets you have is your car.
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post Nov 22 2023, 01:19 PM

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why ppl still drive grab no better alternative?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 21 2023, 09:34 AM)
indriver bidding is like this, customer request a ride from A to B, recommended fare is RM10

Driver A bid RM12
Driver B bid RM13
Driver C bid RM8

Passenger choose driver C with fare RM8, not sure got limit on the bidding or not.
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OK la..... If no rush don't bid to high lo, for drivers if its too low don'tl accept only lo right boss?

 

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