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 Akta Had Masa, Not servicing credit service 6years++

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TSB0ss_ku
post Nov 11 2023, 09:29 PM, updated 3y ago

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So is it really if not servicing the credit (aeon/singer etc) for more than 6 years, under the law it's consider as bad debt and hence they cannot charge you under the court even if you don't pay?


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post Nov 11 2023, 09:34 PM

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post Nov 11 2023, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Nov 11 2023, 09:29 PM)
So is it really if not servicing the credit (aeon/singer etc) for more than 6 years, under the law it's consider as bad debt and hence they cannot charge you under the court even if you don't pay?
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Basically yes. 6 years start to run from breach..ie from the date you are supposed to pay the last sum due.

However if in between any period during 6 years, any part payment made or admission made will revive the 6 years.

So if any psyment made ..the 6 years will reset from the date of payment
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post Nov 11 2023, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 11 2023, 09:40 PM)
Basically yes. 6 years start to run from breach..ie from the date you are supposed to pay the last sum due.

However if in between any period during 6 years, any part payment made or admission made will revive the 6 years.

So if any psyment made ..the 6 years will reset from the date of payment
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So any claim by 3rd party debt collectors say will proceed to court is no need to entertain?
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post Nov 11 2023, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Nov 11 2023, 09:29 PM)
So is it really if not servicing the credit (aeon/singer etc) for more than 6 years, under the law it's consider as bad debt and hence they cannot charge you under the court even if you don't pay?
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usually financial institution will sell these debt to "legal ah long" anyway.
then u sum cry father cry mother when kena harassed by ah long.
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post Nov 12 2023, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Nov 11 2023, 10:37 PM)
usually financial institution will sell these debt to "legal ah long" anyway.
then u sum cry father cry mother when kena harassed by ah long.
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I am not afraid harrassed by along...more afraid harrassed by lawyer kek
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post Nov 12 2023, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Nov 12 2023, 01:45 AM)
I am not afraid harrassed by along...more afraid harrassed by lawyer kek
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Lawyer won’t be able to harass you anyway because they know akta had masa

So, what they do? Outsource to those legal along, or credit recovery

The thing is, these bad loan already sold by bank to other 3rd party lenders/debt recovery at 80-90% discount.

If you have bad debt and these debt recovery people keep sending you messages and threaten you with court la, account will be blacklist la, people will visit you at your office la, your home la,

You actually have the advantage to negotiate with them, can ask for 80% discount of your bad loan, sometimes they agree for this.

This will help you remove your record in CCRIS and CToS. However for your information, usually more than 6 years debt no longer show in CCRIS, when ask those debt recovery is there a record in CCRIS, they will gelabah said it’s not important but it’s your duty and responsibility to pay your debt, then card tuhan, card manusia come out from their argument on why you should pay.


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post Nov 12 2023, 10:27 AM

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By the time your credit also koyak d
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post Nov 12 2023, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Nov 11 2023, 09:43 PM)
So any claim by 3rd party debt collectors say will proceed to court is no need to entertain?
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Yes..if it is beyond 6 years.

So what these debt collectors will try to do is to ask you to make a small payment like a super offer to settle and viola... limitation is revived....very sneaky.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 12 2023, 12:51 PM)
Yes..if it is beyond 6 years.

So what these debt collectors will try to do is to ask you to make a small payment like a super offer to settle and viola... limitation is revived....very sneaky.
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Sounds like sneaky vs sneaky situation.
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post Nov 12 2023, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 11 2023, 09:40 PM)
Basically yes. 6 years start to run from breach..ie from the date you are supposed to pay the last sum due.

However if in between any period during 6 years, any part payment made or admission made will revive the 6 years.

So if any psyment made ..the 6 years will reset from the date of payment
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So no court action can be taken right?

Any court action claim by 3rd party debt recoverer can be ignored yes?

And if they WhatsApp me with those LOD demand letter I can even troll them back say I know the Akta had Masa and I don't need to pay you a single cent and there's nothing you can do about it?

What if they post it to social media and say I hutang tak bayar, can I use them for defamation?

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post Nov 12 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Nov 12 2023, 02:44 PM)
So no court action can be taken right?

Any court action claim by 3rd party debt recoverer can be ignored yes?

And if they WhatsApp me with those LOD demand letter I can even troll them back say I know the Akta had Masa and I don't need to pay you a single cent and there's nothing you can do about it?

What if they post it to social media and say I hutang tak bayar, can I use them for defamation?
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Ignore and they won’t be stupid to use social media because it’s against the law

If it’s within 6 year can la, after 6, from threaten you they will beg you to pay


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post Nov 12 2023, 02:28 PM

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Wow didn't know this.
So I could just rake up $300k in credit card debts and ignore the pleas of banks for 6 years? Then become no need pay? Just curious.
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post Nov 12 2023, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Nov 12 2023, 11:51 AM)
Yes..if it is beyond 6 years.

So what these debt collectors will try to do is to ask you to make a small payment like a super offer to settle and viola... limitation is revived....very sneaky.
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6 years is if the creditor did not take any action or serve you any notice of claim. If they served you notices from time to time , I doubt this Limitation Act is applicable.
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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Nov 12 2023, 01:44 PM)
So no court action can be taken right?

Any court action claim by 3rd party debt recoverer can be ignored yes?

And if they WhatsApp me with those LOD demand letter I can even troll them back say I know the Akta had Masa and I don't need to pay you a single cent and there's nothing you can do about it?

What if they post it to social media and say I hutang tak bayar, can I use them for defamation?
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Ok this is in serious /k..

Any court action SHOULD NOT be ignored. The defence of limitation must be raised for it to apply, ie must be pleaded.

So if kena saman, must file Defence with limitation in order to get off.

If they post in Facebook saying you hutang..you tell me which part is not true? If it is true then there is no defamation correct? No defamation boss

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QUOTE(nihility @ Nov 12 2023, 02:38 PM)
6 years is if the creditor did not take any action or serve you any notice of claim. If they served you notices from time to time , I doubt this Limitation Act is applicable.
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Limitation runs from the date when the cause of action arises..not when notice is given.

Eg. I didn't pay my loan last month on due date. The bank issues a demand and terminate the loan today. The cause of action starts from today and will expire in 6 years.

It doesn't matter if between the 6 years the bank sends to me 100 demands as that will not postpone the limitation period
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Question

1) is this akta applicable to kwsp kastam also? Like company didnt pay the sst or the kwsp..after 6 yrs hutang consider bad debt?

2) how about the rumah lelong. After 6 yrs, can still buy new house...get cashback then rumah lelong but then we can use the money from the cashback?
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Nov 12 2023, 09:46 PM)
Question

1) is this akta applicable to kwsp kastam also? Like company didnt pay the sst or the kwsp..after 6 yrs hutang consider bad debt?

2) how about the rumah lelong. After 6 yrs, can still buy new house...get cashback then rumah lelong but then we can use the money from the cashback?
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1. the akta is for loan n not for dont pay kastam tax n kwsp ...

2. actually theoretically can but only if those 3rd party debt collector dont kacau u la cos your bad loan record is wipe off ..
my friend owe cc debt more than 100k after 6 years also no problem then some more buy new car n take loan from the same bank, langsung tarak hal ..
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 12 2023, 02:28 PM)
Wow didn't know this.
So I could just rake up $300k in credit card debts and ignore the pleas of banks for 6 years? Then become no need pay? Just curious.
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what make you think the bank wont sue u bankruptcy during that 6 years?
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 12 2023, 02:28 PM)
Wow didn't know this.
So I could just rake up $300k in credit card debts and ignore the pleas of banks for 6 years? Then become no need pay? Just curious.
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Malaysia bankruptcy only RM100k. For small amounts they will just wreck your credit score, so you will find it difficult to apply for any additional loans.

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