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post Nov 7 2023, 05:27 PM, updated 3y ago

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Recently I been called up for an interview.

I am to takeover the position vacated by the founder of the company, as he wants to focus on operation.

He is also the owner of the company.

Would you think there is a sky high expectations from this person?

Some more, cannot fool around, because this is not just a boss, this is the boss, who also owns the company.

Co revenue = 400m/year (estimated) no of staffs: 1000.

Position: confidential (don't want to give away too much info)

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Nov 7 2023, 05:28 PM
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post Nov 7 2023, 05:36 PM

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is good opportunity, see you really take up the challenge even tho you know high expectation high risk high income high blood pressure
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post Nov 7 2023, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 7 2023, 05:27 PM)
Recently I been called up for an interview.

I am to takeover the position vacated by the founder of the company, as he wants to focus on operation.

He is also the owner of the company.

Would you think there is a sky high expectations from this person?

Some more, cannot fool around, because this is not just a boss, this is the boss, who also owns the company.

Co revenue = 400m/year (estimated) no of staffs: 1000.

Position: confidential (don't want to give away too much info)
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What is ur position now?

Say if current position not even a manyzer and someone offering u CEO post u better beware treated as scapegoat later.

If everything sounds legit im sure that person thinks u are capable so go for it.

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post Nov 7 2023, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Nov 7 2023, 05:40 PM)
What is ur position now?

Say if current position not even a manyzer and someone offering u CEO post u better beware treated as scapegoat later.

If everything sounds legit im sure that person thinks u are capable so go for it.
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the co is well known in local spheres.

and it is a subsidiary of a well known listed co.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Nov 7 2023, 09:41 PM
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post Nov 8 2023, 09:15 AM

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Subsidiary of listed co.? Means Sdn Bhd. w 1k workforce ?
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post Nov 8 2023, 10:11 AM

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In short, yes. Expectation is high.

Some more the person is founder & owner. It is expected the new person shall bring the company to a new height.
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post Nov 8 2023, 11:09 AM

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Does this mean you won't be moving to Australia anytime soon?
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post Nov 8 2023, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Nov 8 2023, 11:09 AM)
Does this mean you won't be moving to Australia anytime soon?
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no lah.

can't afford to do it.

I be lucky to get a bangla job if I migrate there.

but getting a bangla job won't pay the bills there either.
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post Nov 8 2023, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Nov 8 2023, 10:11 AM)
In short, yes. Expectation is high.

Some more the person is founder & owner. It is expected the new person shall bring the company to a new height.
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I used to be able to do it when I was single

now with family in tow, I can't work late nights.

i want to spend time with my family.

i afraid this new boss will make me work late nights.

imagine boss = founder = owner = connected to head office big boss (father) = know in and out of my job

very powerful. HR also will follow every word he says

sweat man.

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post Nov 8 2023, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 8 2023, 04:29 PM)
no lah.

can't afford to do it.

I be lucky to get a bangla job if I migrate there.

but getting a bangla job won't pay the bills there either.
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Then, will you try to renew your PR when it expires? Seems like such a waste bro...
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post Nov 8 2023, 04:47 PM

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Then, will you try to renew your PR when it expires? Seems like such a waste bro...
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expired 10 years ago.

If I renew, Australia wants me to go there right away and don't return in 5 years.

my savings will burn faster than I cook fried chicken since ringgit depreciates so fast.

I think its difficult for an average earner like me to find jobs there.

I don't have any special skills that differentiate me from their average professional work force


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post Nov 8 2023, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 8 2023, 04:47 PM)
expired 10 years ago.

If I renew, Australia wants me to go there right away and don't return in 5 years.

my savings will burn faster than I cook fried chicken since ringgit depreciates so fast.

I think its difficult for an average earner like me to find jobs there.

I don't have any special skills that differentiate me from their average professional work force
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Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying. Good luck with the new job bro!
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Nov 8 2023, 05:01 PM)
Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying. Good luck with the new job bro!
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thanks just checking out the market.

would be nice if it was during the 2000s, that time migration was a piece of cake.
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post Nov 9 2023, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 7 2023, 05:27 PM)
Recently I been called up for an interview.

I am to takeover the position vacated by the founder of the company, as he wants to focus on operation.

He is also the owner of the company.

Would you think there is a sky high expectations from this person?

Some more, cannot fool around, because this is not just a boss, this is the boss, who also owns the company.

Co revenue = 400m/year (estimated) no of staffs: 1000.

Position: confidential (don't want to give away too much info)
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It's an interview or position had been offered to you?

There's no need to glorify the boss. Even if he's head of Fortune 500 company or has 5,000 staffs under his belt, he's still just another human being that needs to eat, sleep and rest. Take away someone's money, title and fame - where does that leave him?

His achievement is great, but personally whether someone impresses me it would be his/ her capability of a far vision, to mentor, lead, groom his subordinates.

IF you had been offered the position, ask yourself the ultimate question of whether you'll do anything to stay on the job (ie. fast pace learning, capability to catch up etc).

QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 7 2023, 09:41 PM)
the co is well known in local spheres.

and it is a subsidiary of a well known listed co.
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I think you misunderstood her context.

Big companies have secrets. Even bigger companies have bigger secrets. So she meant that if you're someone NOT from the industry/ background, nor remotely qualified for the job but was offered this silver platter all of a sudden, just be careful that it might not be what it seems. Don't assume only unknown/ small companies do the dodgy stuffs by the way. Well known or not isn't the issue here.

View this offer through a neutral lens and see if its reasonable for them to hire you with your background and experience. If something feels off, don't ignore the red flags. Just saying.

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post Nov 9 2023, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Nov 9 2023, 02:01 PM)
It's an interview or position had been offered to you?

There's no need to glorify the boss. Even if he's head of Fortune 500 company or has 5,000 staffs under his belt, he's still just another human being that needs to eat, sleep and rest. Take away someone's money, title and fame - where does that leave him?

His achievement is great, but personally whether someone impresses me it would be his/ her capability of a far vision, to mentor, lead, groom his subordinates.

IF you had been offered the position, ask yourself the ultimate question of whether you'll do anything to stay on the job (ie. fast pace learning, capability to catch up etc). 
I think you misunderstood her context.

Big companies have secrets. Even bigger companies have bigger secrets. So she meant that if you're someone NOT from the industry/ background, nor remotely qualified for the job but was offered this silver platter all of a sudden, just be careful that it might not be what it seems. Don't assume only unknown/ small companies do the dodgy stuffs by the way. Well known or not isn't the issue here.

View this offer through a neutral lens and see if its reasonable for them to hire you with your background and experience. If something feels off, don't ignore the red flags. Just saying.
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Of course, I wll see it through a neutral lens la.

I am not saying that this is an excellent offer and it would be a dream job come true. This job is rife with a lot of mine fields. I like the work exposure. But I can predict long hours. I also see a number of key positions that are vacant. I wonder what happened ?

The biggest mine field is working for boss-owner. Again I am not saying he is God or what or someone great. Just that he can impose a lot of pressure or punish wantonly if he wants to. Because he has full control of legal and HR, and everyone has to abide by him. So if due to bad luck ended up working for a demanding boss, or if he could be a cruel boss, then habislah aku.


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post Nov 10 2023, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 8 2023, 04:31 PM)
I used to be able to do it when I was single

now with family in tow, I can't work late nights.

i want to spend time with my family.

i afraid this new boss will make me work late nights.

imagine boss = founder = owner = connected to head office big boss (father) = know in and out of my job

very powerful. HR also will follow every word he says

sweat man.
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How about have a casual chat with the boss in a cafe?
Discuss about what are his expectations and both of you get in line on the same page.

Tell him that you want to spend time with family after work hours and weekends, but at the same time you are a responsible employee and will work on the KPIs set.

They requested to interview you and offer you the job (?), then you must have capabilities they see in you and confident you can be successful.

Highly suggest you do the above before accepting the offer.

Good luck.


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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 8 2023, 04:31 PM)
I used to be able to do it when I was single

now with family in tow, I can't work late nights.

i want to spend time with my family.

i afraid this new boss will make me work late nights.

imagine boss = founder = owner = connected to head office big boss (father) = know in and out of my job

very powerful. HR also will follow every word he says

sweat man.
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Seeing this part again makes me find it rather tasteless. HR is supposed to be the bridge between top management and employees, and they should be more independent in managing the stakeholders. Yes, they need to comply with management's direction and decision where its right, but also be neutral in assessing most of the situation to move towards mutual benefit.

If HR blindly follows everything the management dictates, it is weak and pitiable. Yes, the pity goes to the employees. Think twice again, that companies like this would mean they want to hold ultimate power by hiring executioner in the HR, who would just follow everything the top mgmt says. This somehow reflects a part of the culture in this company.

QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Nov 9 2023, 02:15 PM)
Of course, I wll see it through a neutral lens la.

I am not saying that this is an excellent offer and it would be a dream job come true. This job is rife with a lot of mine fields. I like the work exposure. But I can predict long hours. I also see a number of key positions that are vacant. I wonder what happened ?

The biggest mine field is working for boss-owner. Again I am not saying he is God or what or someone great. Just that he can impose a lot of pressure or punish wantonly if he wants to. Because he has full control of legal and HR, and everyone has to abide by him. So if due to bad luck ended up working for a demanding boss, or if he could be a cruel boss, then habislah aku.
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A lot of key positions vacant could be both a red flag and/ or opportunity. May have been restructuring due to scale-down, or the company went through an internal political turmoil, or going through some financial difficulty. Either way, if you're really keen to work for them - do your own digging into this company. If you're in the same industry, it wouldn't be too hard to sniff around for some unofficial news as reference through other vendors or their associate partners etc.

In your mind, match the "rumours" you heard vs what the interviewer answer you during the interview session. Its only fair that you know about the company as well because you're putting your rice bowl onto them; so as a prospect, you do have the right to know about some things to a certain extent.

I've worked with multiple type of bosses in x years of career in different companies - reporting to both business owner and also non. At the end of it, business-owner tend to be more calculative while non-business owner although need to take care of overall profit & loss, they're less of a penny pincher. Non-business owner boss shares the same fate as you, and are more likely to emphatize and be less calculative on certain things. This is based on personal observation and experience, may or may not be relevant to your case.

Just do lots of observation and see what's your 'gut feel' during and after the interview. All the best.
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post Nov 10 2023, 04:32 PM

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he wants to focus on operation.

You will work like dog for him

He is smart. He going to make more money for himself and let you run admin and mgt people which is tough.
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