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 1M65 SG can achieveable ! 130,000 must have, Monthly Salary for each person: $4,000

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TSplouffle0789
post Oct 31 2023, 08:23 AM, updated 2y ago

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You may have heard of 1M65 — a local movement where individuals aim to accumulate S$1 million by the age of 65.



The idea behind 1M65 is by keeping your money invested in CPF and allowing it to compound over your working lifetime, you can achieve the target goal of $1M by age 65.


Parameter Value
Starting Age for both husband and wife 30 years old
Starting CPF Balance for each person At least $130,000 in SA and MA
Monthly Salary for each person $4,000
Annual Interest Rate 4% (compounded)
Desired CPF Balance at age 65 $1,000,000
Final CPF Balance after 35 years $1.3523 million SGD





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At around 30 years old, both you and your spouse should each have at least $130,000 in your CPF Special Account (SA) and MediSave Account (MA) combined.

The prevailing interest rate of 4 per cent compounded over time will grow both of your combined CPF balances to $1 million by 65 years old.





Key changes that the CPF has gone through:

In its original iteration in 1955, a member could withdraw everything at 55 years of age.

1977 — The Special Account was created for retirement purposes.

1981 — CPF was liberalised to allow the funds to be used for housing.

1984 — The Medisave Account was created to allow members to use the funds for medical bills.

1986 — CPF funds were allowed to be used for specific types of investments.






1987 — The minimum sum scheme was introduced where CPF savings were disbursed over a 20 year period.




The "minimum sum scheme" refers to a policy in the Central Provident Fund (CPF) system in Singapore. Under this scheme, CPF savings are disbursed over a 20-year period.


It means that when an individual reaches a certain age, their CPF savings are not paid out as a lump sum but are spread out and disbursed gradually over two decades to provide financial security and support in retirement.


This is designed to ensure that individuals have a regular stream of income in their retirement years rather than receiving all their savings at once.





1990 — Medishield health insurance funded by CPF funds was introduced to provide a form of universal healthcare to all members.

2014 — The CPF Life annuity plan was introduced which improved on the minimum sum scheme.



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Both the husband and wife have a monthly salary of $4,000 each.


Here's the calculation :

Starting CPF Balance for each person: $130,000

Monthly Salary for each person: $4,000

Monthly CPF Contribution for each person: Approximately 37% of the monthly salary, so it will be around $1,480 per month

Annual Interest Rate: Assumed 4% (compounded)

Now, let's recalculate the CPF balance at age 65 using the updated monthly contribution:

You can use the future value formula:

FV = P * [(1 + r)^n - 1] / r

Where:

FV is the future value (the CPF balance at age 65)
P is the periodic contribution ($1,480 per month)
r is the periodic interest rate (4% annually, so 0.04/12 per month)

n is the number of periods (in months) until they both reach age 65, given that they are currently 30 years old (which is equivalent to 35 years or 420 months).

Now, plug in the values and calculate for one person:



$130,000 compoind interest after 35 years

= $130,000 * (1 + 0.04)^35
= $ 512,991




FV

= $512,991 + ($1480 * ( ( (1 + (0.04 / 12) )^ (35 * 12) ) - 1) ) / (0.04 / 12))

= 1.8653 millions



Calculating this will give you an approximate CPF balance for one person at age 65 with the updated salary. To get the combined balance for both husband and wife, double this result, as both have similar contributions and starting balances.

This recalculation should provide an estimate of their CPF balance at age 65 based on the new salary amount and the provided assumptions.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 2 2023, 11:22 AM
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post Oct 31 2023, 10:17 AM

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average ktard go for 20M65 MY. sinkie jealous.
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post Oct 31 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Oct 31 2023, 10:17 AM)
average ktard go for 20M65 MY. sinkie jealous.
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Any statistics?


Since 1987,their CPF have a big change!!!!


Malaysia only now want to do research on implemention this withdrawal scheme....


1987 — The minimum sum scheme was introduced where CPF savings were disbursed over a 20 year period.




The "minimum sum scheme" refers to a policy in the Central Provident Fund (CPF) system in Singapore. Under this scheme, CPF savings are disbursed over a 20-year period.


It means that when an individual reaches a certain age, their CPF savings are not paid out as a lump sum but are spread out and disbursed gradually over two decades to provide financial security and support in retirement.


This is designed to ensure that individuals have a regular stream of income in their retirement years rather than receiving all their savings at once.




The increase in "retirement savings" is necessary due to factors like inflation, improved living standards, and longer life expectancies.


Inflation causes the prices of goods and services to rise over time, making it essential to adjust retirement savings to ensure they can support the desired retirement lifestyle.



If retirement savings remained at the 1987 level of $30,000, it would only provide around $300 per month today.


Most people aim for higher monthly income during retirement.




In 2020, if someone saved $181,000 ( full retirement sum) by the time they turned 65, they would receive about $1,440 each month to help cover their living expenses during retirement.





This is a way to make sure people have enough money to support themselves when they stop working.



Adjusting retirement savings to account for these factors helps ensure a more comfortable retirement.




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post Oct 31 2023, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 31 2023, 02:08 PM)
Any statistics?
Since 1987,their CPF have a big change!!!!
Malaysia only now want to do research on implemention this withdrawal scheme....
1987 — The minimum sum scheme was introduced where CPF savings were disbursed over a 20 year period.
The "minimum sum scheme" refers to a policy in the Central Provident Fund (CPF) system in Singapore. Under this scheme, CPF savings are disbursed over a 20-year period.
It means that when an individual reaches a certain age, their CPF savings are not paid out as a lump sum but are spread out and disbursed gradually over two decades to provide financial security and support in retirement.
This is designed to ensure that individuals have a regular stream of income in their retirement years rather than receiving all their savings at once.
The increase in "retirement savings" is necessary due to factors like inflation, improved living standards, and longer life expectancies.
Inflation causes the prices of goods and services to rise over time, making it essential to adjust retirement savings to ensure they can support the desired retirement lifestyle.
If retirement savings remained at the 1987 level of $30,000, it would only provide around $300 per month today.
Most people aim for higher monthly income during retirement.
In 2020, if someone saved $181,000 ( full retirement sum) by the time they turned 65, they would receive about $1,440 each month to help cover their living expenses during retirement.
This is a way to make sure people have enough money to support themselves when they stop working.
Adjusting retirement savings to account for these factors helps ensure a more comfortable retirement.
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Bro, i can't find the thread to reply you this.
Its1200sqft, he can't remember for sure its 35x65 plus minus <180k. Yes application is tricky, he got it after 4 years upon reg

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post Oct 31 2023, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 31 2023, 04:06 PM)
Bro, i can't find the thread to reply you this.
Its1200sqft, he can't remember for sure its 35x65 plus minus <180k. Yes application is tricky, he got it after 4 years upon reg
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Thanks bro

I private message you..

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post Oct 31 2023, 04:30 PM

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i calculate the according to poster and i got almost 9.5m?
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post Nov 2 2023, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(lagenda110 @ Oct 31 2023, 04:30 PM)
i calculate the according to poster and i got almost 9.5m?
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please show your calculation here
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post Nov 2 2023, 06:40 AM

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Singapore CPF has max cap per year so even if salary is high, it still takes lots of years and efforts to reach 1M. Those who have spare money are encouraged to invest in Treasury Bill instead. So CPF is not indicative of a person retirement savings once salary has exceeded a certain level.

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QUOTE(vhs @ Nov 2 2023, 06:40 AM)
Singapore CPF has max cap per year so even if salary is high, it still takes lots of years and efforts to reach 1M. Those who have spare money are encouraged to invest in Treasury Bill instead. So CPF is not indicative of a person retirement savings once salary has exceeded a certain level.
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What's the max cap currently ya. Do you know?
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post Nov 2 2023, 06:43 AM

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Why need to be in SG wo.. at this rate i hate 55 already > 3.5m alone no need combine combine.
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post Nov 2 2023, 06:46 AM

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This one no.... Don't bother. Most pple cannot achieve. Because of housing. Most pple use their cpf to buy hoise instead
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post Nov 2 2023, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Nov 2 2023, 06:40 AM)
Singapore CPF has max cap per year so even if salary is high, it still takes lots of years and efforts to reach 1M. Those who have spare money are encouraged to invest in Treasury Bill instead. So CPF is not indicative of a person retirement savings once salary has exceeded a certain level.
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Treasury Bill return % ?


Singapore PR or EP HOLDER can buy?

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post Nov 2 2023, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2023, 06:43 AM)
Why need to be in SG wo.. at this rate i hate 55 already > 3.5m alone no need combine combine.
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means if you ,you revoke your PR on age 55 ,and retired at malaysia?


1 milion SGD = RM3.5 MILLION
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2023, 06:42 AM)
What's the max cap currently ya.  Do you know?
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Under the Ordinary Wages component, which is typically our monthly salary, the CPF contribution ceiling is capped at $6,000 per month.



This means only the first $6,000 of our monthly salaries require CPF contributions from us and our employers.



If we earn more, any amounts above the first $6,000 will not attract any employer or employee CPF contributions.



The CPF monthly salary ceiling will increase to $8,000 in 2026 (


in Sep 2023: $6,300;

Jan 2024: $6,800;


Jan 2025: $7,400; and


Jan 2026: $8,000).

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 07:01 AM)
means if you ,you revoke your PR on age 55 ,and retired at malaysia?
1 milion SGD = RM3.5 MILLION
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No I'm in Malaysian, earning here, stay here, shit here.

QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 07:03 AM)
Under the Ordinary Wages component, which is typically our monthly salary, the CPF contribution ceiling is capped at $6,000 per month.
This means only the first $6,000 of our monthly salaries require CPF contributions from us and our employers.
If we earn more, any amounts above the first $6,000 will not attract any employer or employee CPF contributions.
The CPF monthly salary ceiling will increase to $8,000 in 2026 (
in Sep 2023: $6,300;

Jan 2024: $6,800;
Jan 2025: $7,400; and
Jan 2026: $8,000).

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Thats no good.. in fact very bad.if i go already got close to 5 figure. 2-3 years time get PR cpf contributions capped at 8k very sad. Thanks for the info.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 07:00 AM)
Treasury Bill return % ?
Singapore PR or EP HOLDER can buy?
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https://blog.seedly.sg/treasury-bills-t-bil...ingapore-guide/

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2023, 07:06 AM)
No I'm in Malaysian, earning here, stay here, shit here.
Thats no good.. in fact very bad.if i go already got close to 5 figure. 2-3 years time get PR cpf contributions capped at 8k very sad. Thanks for the info.
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May I know what is your sector?

Do you have more than 15 years of experience?

Do you want a higher percentage of CPF deduction?

Most people typically want less.


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QUOTE(vhs @ Nov 2 2023, 07:28 AM)
How Do I Buy T-Bills in Singapore?
Before applying, make sure you have the following:

A bank account with any local banks in Singapore (DBS/POSB, OCBC, or UOB)

Central Depository (CDP) account that is linked to the bank account you intend to invest with

A CPF Investment Account with one of the three CPFIS agent banks (DBS/POSB, OCBC, and UOB) for CPFIS-OA investments (no account needed for CPFIS-SA investments).

An SRS account if you are using funds from your SRS.



Means NO CPF cannot buy....
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