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 1M65 SG can achieveable ! 130,000 must have, Monthly Salary for each person: $4,000

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post Nov 2 2023, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 08:32 AM)
How Do I Buy T-Bills in Singapore?
Before applying, make sure you have the following:

A bank account with any local banks in Singapore (DBS/POSB, OCBC, or UOB)

Central Depository (CDP) account that is linked to the bank account you intend to invest with

A CPF Investment Account with one of the three CPFIS agent banks (DBS/POSB, OCBC, and UOB) for CPFIS-OA investments (no account needed for CPFIS-SA investments).

An SRS account if you are using funds from your SRS.
Means NO CPF cannot buy....
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U can buy using cash

https://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/articles/na...(CPFIS)%20funds.
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post Nov 2 2023, 08:50 AM

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Lol 65 wait die edi
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post Nov 2 2023, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 06:34 AM)
please show your calculation here
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U calculate and show here la
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post Nov 2 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(lagenda110 @ Nov 2 2023, 10:14 AM)
U calculate and show here la
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Parameter Value
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**Starting CPF Balance** - Husband: $130,000
- Wife: $130,000
**Monthly Salary** - Husband: $8,000
- Wife: $8,000
**Monthly CPF Contribution** - Husband: Approximately $2,960
- Wife: Approximately $2,960
**Annual Interest Rate** - Assumed 4% (compounded)
**Desired CPF Balance** - $1,000,000


Calculation Details:
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To determine if you can reach a combined CPF balance of $1 million by
the time you're 65 years old, we can use the information provided and
make some assumptions.
1. **Starting Balance:** Both you and your spouse have at least $130,000
each in your CPF Special Account (SA) and MediSave Account (MA)
combined. So, the starting balance for each person is $130,000.
2. **Salary:** Both of you have a salary of 1 month $8,000. Assuming you
each contribute your Ordinary Wages (OW) to CPF, which includes both
the employee and employer contributions, it's typically around 37% of
your salary. This means you both contribute around $2,960 per month
to CPF (37% of $8,000).
3. **Interest Rate:** You mentioned a prevailing interest rate of 4%
compounded over time. For CPF calculations, it's essential to use the
specific CPF interest rates applicable during the years in question,
as they can vary. But for this example, let's assume a constant 4%
annual interest rate.
Now, you can calculate the growth of your CPF balance over time. You
want to find out when your combined CPF balance will reach $1 million.
You can use a future value formula.
FV = P * (1 + r)^n
Where:
- FV is the future value ($1,000,000)
- P is the periodic contribution ($2,960 per month)
- r is the periodic interest rate (4% annually, so 0.04/12 per month)
- n is the number of periods (in months)
Now, you can solve for n (the number of months it will take to reach
$1,000,000).
n = log(($1,000,000 / $2,960), (1 + 0.04/12))
Using this formula, you can calculate how many months it will take to
reach $1 million. Keep in mind that this is a simplified calculation,
and CPF interest rates can vary over time.






Starting CPF Balance for each person: $130,000

Monthly Salary for each person: $8,000

Monthly CPF Contribution for each person: Approximately $2,960

Annual Interest Rate: Assumed 4% (compounded)

Since they both contribute approximately $2,960 per month to CPF and you want to find out their balance at age 65, you'll have to calculate the future value of these contributions with the assumed interest rate of 4%.

You can use the future value formula:

FV = P * [(1 + r)^n - 1] / r

Where:

FV is the future value (the CPF balance at age 65)
P is the periodic contribution ($2,960 per month)
r is the periodic interest rate (4% annually, so 0.04/12 per month)



n is the number of periods (in months) until they both reach age 65, given that they are currently 30 years old (which is equivalent to 35 years or 420 months).




$130,000 compoind interest after 35 years

= $ 130,000 * (1 + 0.04)^35
= $ 512,991


FV = $ 512,991 + $2,960 * [(1 + 0.04/12)^(35*12) - 1] / (0.04/12)
= $ 3.2176 millions

Calculating this will give you an approximate CPF balance for one person at age 65. To get the combined balance for both husband and wife, you can simply double this result, as both have similar contributions and starting balances.

The calculation should give you an estimate of their CPF balance at age 65 based on the provided information and assumptions.


$ 3.2176 millions !!!!!!


Just having both the husband and wife with a $4,000 monthly salary for each person at age 30 is sufficient to potentially reach more than 1 million in their CPF accounts.



Please see my previous post again.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 2 2023, 11:24 AM
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post Nov 2 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2023, 06:43 AM)
Why need to be in SG wo.. at this rate i hate 55 already > 3.5m alone no need combine combine.
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Starting CPF Balance: $30,000

Starting Age: 31 years old

Monthly Salary: $6,500

Annual Interest Rate: Assuming a 4% annual interest rate compounded over time

Desired CPF Balance at age 65: To be determined
To calculate the CPF balance at age 65, including the initial balance of $30,000, you can use the future value formula:

FV = Initial Balance * (1 + r)^n + P * [(1 + r)^n - 1] / r

Where:

FV is the future value (the CPF balance at age 65)
Initial Balance is the starting CPF balance ($30,000)
P is the periodic contribution ($6,500 per month)
r is the periodic interest rate (4% annually, so 0.04/12 per month)
n is the number of periods (in months) until age 65 (34 years or 408 months)

Now he is 31 years old.....



Now, plug in the values and calculate:

$30,000 compound interest after 30 years

= $30,000 * (1 + 0.04/1)^(1*30)

= $30,000 * (1.04)^30

≈ $71,368.79




FV = $ 71368.70 + [ (1 + 0.04/12)^(34*12) + $6,500 * [(1 + 0.04/12)^(34*12) - 1] / (0.04/12) ]

= 5.7018 millions



One of my friend



Fu yoh...



When he reach age 50,

$30,000 * (1 + 0.04/1)^(1*20)
= $ 65,733.70






FV=

$ 65,733.70 +

[ (1 + 0.04/12)^228 + $6,500 * [(1 + 0.04/12)^228 - 1] / (0.04/12)] ]


= 2.28 millions

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 2 2023, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 2 2023, 08:50 AM)
Lol 65 wait die edi
Wat use
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post Nov 2 2023, 12:58 PM

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to reach 20M65, just need any one of following

100k by 45 + annual return rate of 31%
1m by 45 with 16% rate of return
100k by 35 + 20% annual return rate
100k by 25 + 14.2% annual return rate
100k by 25 + 100k annual savings rate + 6.8% annual return rate

The last emphasises the importance of a good job+ prudent expenditure
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post Nov 2 2023, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 11:16 AM)
Starting CPF Balance: $30,000

Starting Age: 31 years old

Monthly Salary: $6,500

Annual Interest Rate: Assuming a 4% annual interest rate compounded over time

Desired CPF Balance at age 65: To be determined
To calculate the CPF balance at age 65, including the initial balance of $30,000, you can use the future value formula:

FV = Initial Balance * (1 + r)^n + P * [(1 + r)^n - 1] / r

Where:

FV is the future value (the CPF balance at age 65)
Initial Balance is the starting CPF balance ($30,000)
P is the periodic contribution ($6,500 per month)
r is the periodic interest rate (4% annually, so 0.04/12 per month)
n is the number of periods (in months) until age 65 (34 years or 408 months)

Now he is 31 years old.....
Now, plug in the values and calculate:

$30,000 compound interest after 30 years

= $30,000 * (1 + 0.04/1)^(1*30)

= $30,000 * (1.04)^30

≈ $71,368.79
FV = $ 71368.70  + [ (1 + 0.04/12)^(34*12) + $6,500 * [(1 + 0.04/12)^(34*12) - 1] / (0.04/12) ]

      = 5.7018 millions
One of my friend
Fu yoh...
When he reach age 50,

$30,000 * (1 + 0.04/1)^(1*20) 
= $ 65,733.70
FV=

$ 65,733.70 +

[        (1 + 0.04/12)^228 + $6,500 * [(1 + 0.04/12)^228 - 1] / (0.04/12)]    ]
= 2.28 millions
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6.5k epf a month? Someone already mentioned salary epf contribution capped at 6k sgd right? Anyway cpf calculation is indeed much complex compared to our kwsp.
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post Nov 2 2023, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 10:48 AM)
| Parameter                  | Value                                      |
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**Starting CPF Balance**  - Husband: $130,000                       
                            - Wife: $130,000                           
**Monthly Salary**        - Husband: $8,000                         
                            - Wife: $8,000                             
**Monthly CPF Contribution** - Husband: Approximately $2,960           
                            - Wife: Approximately $2,960             
**Annual Interest Rate**  - Assumed 4% (compounded)                 
**Desired CPF Balance**    - $1,000,000                               
Calculation Details:                                                       
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To determine if you can reach a combined CPF balance of $1 million by   
the time you're 65 years old, we can use the information provided and   
make some assumptions.                                                 
                                                                         
1. **Starting Balance:** Both you and your spouse have at least $130,000 
    each in your CPF Special Account (SA) and MediSave Account (MA)       
    combined. So, the starting balance for each person is $130,000.       
                                                                         
2. **Salary:** Both of you have a salary of 1 month $8,000. Assuming you 
    each contribute your Ordinary Wages (OW) to CPF, which includes both 
    the employee and employer contributions, it's typically around 37% of
    your salary. This means you both contribute around $2,960 per month 
    to CPF (37% of $8,000).                                             
                                                                         
3. **Interest Rate:** You mentioned a prevailing interest rate of 4%   
    compounded over time. For CPF calculations, it's essential to use the
    specific CPF interest rates applicable during the years in question, 
    as they can vary. But for this example, let's assume a constant 4%   
    annual interest rate.                                               
                                                                         
Now, you can calculate the growth of your CPF balance over time. You   
want to find out when your combined CPF balance will reach $1 million. 
You can use a future value formula.                                     
                                                                         
FV = P * (1 + r)^n                                                       
                                                                         
Where:                                                                 
- FV is the future value ($1,000,000)                                   
- P is the periodic contribution ($2,960 per month)                     
- r is the periodic interest rate (4% annually, so 0.04/12 per month)   
- n is the number of periods (in months)                               
                                                                         
Now, you can solve for n (the number of months it will take to reach     
$1,000,000).                                                           
                                                                         
n = log(($1,000,000 / $2,960), (1 + 0.04/12))                           
                                                                         
Using this formula, you can calculate how many months it will take to   
reach $1 million. Keep in mind that this is a simplified calculation,   
and CPF interest rates can vary over time.                             
Starting CPF Balance for each person: $130,000

Monthly Salary for each person: $8,000

Monthly CPF Contribution for each person: Approximately $2,960

Annual Interest Rate: Assumed 4% (compounded)

Since they both contribute approximately $2,960 per month to CPF
If Singapore cap it at sgd 6k for cpf contribution how you get sgd 2.94k? Your calculation full of mistakes la.
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post Nov 2 2023, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2023, 03:14 PM)
If Singapore cap it at sgd 6k for cpf contribution how you get sgd 2.94k? Your calculation full of mistakes la.
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Under the Ordinary Wages component, which is typically our monthly salary, the CPF contribution ceiling is capped at $6,000 per month.
This means only the first $6,000 of our monthly salaries require CPF contributions from us and our employers.
If we earn more, any amounts above the first $6,000 will not attract any employer or employee CPF contributions.
The CPF monthly salary ceiling will increase to $8,000 in 2026



(

in

Sep 2023: $6,300;
Jan 2024: $6,800;
Jan 2025: $7,400; and
Jan 2026: $8,000).


Now already 6300...

2 months later is 6,800 lor

2025 january is 7400....


Please look carefully.


So now you can show calculation how you get 9.5 millions?


QUOTE(lagenda110 @ Oct 31 2023, 04:30 PM)
i calculate the according to poster and i got almost 9.5m?
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This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 2 2023, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2023, 03:11 PM)
6.5k epf a month? Someone already mentioned salary epf contribution capped at 6k sgd right? Anyway cpf calculation is indeed much complex compared to our kwsp.
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Under the Ordinary Wages component, which is typically our monthly salary, the CPF contribution ceiling is capped at $6,000 per month.
This means only the first $6,000 of our monthly salaries require CPF contributions from us and our employers.
If we earn more, any amounts above the first $6,000 will not attract any employer or employee CPF contributions.
The CPF monthly salary ceiling will increase to $8,000 in 2026



(

in

Sep 2023: $6,300;
Jan 2024: $6,800;
Jan 2025: $7,400; and
Jan 2026: $8,000).


Now already 6300...

2 months later is 6,800 lor

2025 january is 7400....


Please look carefully.
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post Nov 2 2023, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 04:27 PM)
Under the Ordinary Wages component, which is typically our monthly salary, the CPF contribution ceiling is capped at $6,000 per month.
This means only the first $6,000 of our monthly salaries require CPF contributions from us and our employers.
If we earn more, any amounts above the first $6,000 will not attract any employer or employee CPF contributions.
The CPF monthly salary ceiling will increase to $8,000 in 2026
(

in

Sep 2023: $6,300;
Jan 2024: $6,800;
Jan 2025: $7,400; and
Jan 2026: $8,000).
Now already 6300...

2 months later is 6,800 lor

2025 january is 7400....
Please look carefully.
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So you upfront straight take 8k but then again full of flaws. U need to calculate the cap or principal up to 55.. 55 - 60 will be 29.5% Contribution 60 to 65 is only 20.5% Contribution. Also 4% it only happened recent right? As i recall cpf always hover below 3%.

That's why cpf is just pain in the ass to calculate. If not mistaken by age group the dividend is different as well right?
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QUOTE(lahart @ Nov 2 2023, 08:50 AM)
Lol 65 wait die edi
Wat use
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