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ayamxxx
post Oct 25 2023, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 25 2023, 10:56 AM)
But ppl said HRV higher power while having lower FC wor
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Again, they combo it with scooter gb, sure good fc. Any car with scooter gb get better fc but not sure about reliability
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 25 2023, 10:56 AM)
But ppl said HRV higher power while having lower FC wor
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This fella I argue with him before la he no listen wan. If that's the case why Bezza 4 speed auto so much better than Persona CVT? Honda HRV engine is way better than Geely engine, fullstop. Guarantee even if use 4 speed auto also will be better than Geely DCT.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 12:01 PM)
Again, they combo it with scooter gb, sure good fc. Any car with scooter gb get better fc but not sure about reliability
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Bezza Axia dinosaur 4 speed auto but still so much better than Saga/Persona use CVT? Reliability is not even a question now, old Honda City idsi still on the road. Saga FLX even with ciplak China made Punch CVT also no huge problem until now more than 10 years later still on the road.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 25 2023, 12:44 PM)
Bezza Axia dinosaur 4 speed auto but still so much better than Saga/Persona use CVT? Reliability is not even a question now, old Honda City idsi still on the road. Saga FLX even with ciplak China made Punch CVT also no huge problem until now more than 10 years later still on the road.
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U go to cvt repair shop. From Audi to Honda, all suffer belt burst inside. Just repaired mine, previous gen HRV belt at rm4k+. 4 gear auto normal torque converter is best for reliability, but considering 2023, need 6 gear auto nowadays for better FC. Again Punch is a Belgium company lol, if it manufacturers in China, it still Belgium company made
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 12:56 PM)
U go to cvt repair shop. From Audi to Honda, all suffer belt burst inside. Just repaired mine, previous gen HRV belt at rm4k+. 4 gear auto normal torque converter is best for reliability, but considering 2023, need 6 gear auto nowadays for better FC. Again Punch is a Belgium company lol, if it manufacturers in China, it still Belgium company made
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I told you before also Punch now owned by China company called Sensteed, formerly known as Yinyi. Owned by Chinese, manufactured in China, still can call Belgium company?

Reliability is not go CVT mechanic shop to decide. It's the percentage of failures over how many sold total. How many people buy Saga/Iriz/Persona? If really high percentage of failures /k and FB already viral kaw kaw. If Proton one million cars sold with 99.99% reliability still means that 100 cars will have defects. That 100 owners all go to CVT shop repair you see wah 100 people got problems means Proton brand defective? But 99.99% reliability woh.
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post Oct 25 2023, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 10:49 AM)
welcome to HM. use one time only, now banned them for life. HM use junk parts especially localize parts. Brake pad made in Thai make it juddering at high speed
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Yup, i really ban them after kena with city.
My brake more on having metal screeching noise lol. Go to sc multiple time cannot solve
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post Oct 25 2023, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Oct 25 2023, 01:54 PM)
Yup, i really ban them after kena with city.
My brake more on having metal screeching noise lol. Go to sc multiple time cannot solve
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In which year did you buy the Honda City?

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 12:56 PM)
U go to cvt repair shop. From Audi to Honda, all suffer belt burst inside. Just repaired mine, previous gen HRV belt at rm4k+. 4 gear auto normal torque converter is best for reliability, but considering 2023, need 6 gear auto nowadays for better FC. Again Punch is a Belgium company lol, if it manufacturers in China, it still Belgium company made
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Nissan Almera CVT ok?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2023, 03:18 PM)
Nissan Almera CVT ok?
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shitco CVT
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post Oct 25 2023, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Oct 25 2023, 03:23 PM)
shitco CVT
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Not all CVTs are bad.

Only Shitco (Nissan's Jatco) and Punch-able CVTs are known for having issues.


found someone said on lowyat


Proton Inspira 1.8E CVT ok?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2023, 03:26 PM)
Not all CVTs are bad.

Only Shitco (Nissan's Jatco) and Punch-able CVTs are known for having issues.
found someone said on lowyat
Proton Inspira 1.8E CVT ok?
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To be neutral, just go to gb repair shop, all brand is affected for CVT especially the belt after hitting high mileage. Then u will get somebody said this CVT cannot drive aggressive once etc. Long time ago even Audi had problematic CVT gb
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2023, 03:26 PM)
Not all CVTs are bad.

Only Shitco (Nissan's Jatco) and Punch-able CVTs are known for having issues.
found someone said on lowyat
Proton Inspira 1.8E CVT ok?
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Honda M one, especially previous gen HRV and City, many had belt burst inside. Even under warranty, cz too many, HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 03:41 PM)
Honda M one, especially previous gen HRV and City, many had belt burst inside. Even under warranty, cz too many, HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years
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HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

When Honda Malaysia change this terms and conditions?
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post Oct 25 2023, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 03:40 PM)
To be neutral, just go to gb repair shop, all brand is affected for CVT especially the belt after hitting high mileage. Then u will get somebody said this CVT cannot drive aggressive once etc. Long time ago even Audi had problematic CVT gb
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I plan to buy inspira or almera.


2013 or 2017 year second hand...



https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5394906&hl=




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post Oct 25 2023, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 10:49 AM)
welcome to HM. use one time only, now banned them for life. HM use junk parts especially localize parts. Brake pad made in Thai make it juddering at high speed
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lucky I have good experience with jazz GK. no such issues (just normal wear /tear) and 1 abs module (but still never stranded or touchwood anything on the road)

seeing the FB post now in HRV, civic group, made me want to forget buying a HM again.

but what are the alternatives sigh. toyota with that dinasour aunty looking models. and mazda is just selling their car at sohigh price (ok admit ayam the b40)
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post Oct 25 2023, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2023, 03:17 PM)
In which year did you buy the Honda City?
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Mine one is gm6 model, i bought on 2016
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2023, 03:41 PM)
Honda M one, especially previous gen HRV and City, many had belt burst inside. Even under warranty, cz too many, HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years
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Hmm, maybe the unit you get got QC problem.

My 2019 city v spec no such issue, always drive in high speed, gearbox still in good response, easily hit 190kmh on LEKAS, even just using xm2+

Sold it in Jun, carsome only mention mileage was too high, 180k km. When SUKE baru open, got two times I accidentally push the gear from D to N instead of S when drive at 140kmh, the whole car suddenly slow down with super huge noise. Thought it will sure damage the gearbox but surprise it can still last until this year. And still very responsive in acceleration.

But anyway, I am honda users who hate honda also yet keep buying honda, hahaha, got one civic and one crv 😂. Touch wood no issue for both cars so far.

But CVT really NOISY la, especially when it hit 5.5k rpm.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 04:39 AM)
We’re all thinking about it: Proton S70 launch date?


Difference between Oct 25, 2023 and Nov 18, 2023

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Feature              Specification
Seating Capacity      5 Seats     
Transmission Type    CVT         
Engine                1600 cc and 2000 cc     
Power                119 hp       
Entertainment & Communication Availability
Display Size                  8 Inch     
Apple Carplay/Android Auto    have       
USB & Auxiliary Input        have       
Bluetooth Connectivity        have       
FM/AM/Radio                  have       
Speakers Front                have       
Speakers Rear                have       
No Of Speakers                8           
Multi-function Steering Wheel have       
Integrated 2DIN Audio        have       
Touch Screen                  have       
Chassis 
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Assembly                Malaysia                       
Type                    Unibody                       
Front Suspension        MacPherson Strut               
Rear Suspension          Torsion Beam                   
Front Wheels                  215/55 R18           
Rear Wheels                215/55 R18             
Front Brakes            Ventilated Disc               
Rear Brakes              Solid Disc                   
Steering                Rack and Pinion (Electric Power Steering)
Chassis Notes            -                             
| Drivetrain                |       
Type                      Dual-clutch Automatic (Wet)
Transmission Name        7DCT                     
Ratios                    7                       
Manufacturer              Geely                   
Driveline                Front Wheel Drive       
Performance And Efficiency                          
0-100 km/h              -                       
Rated Economy            6.5 L/100 km (Internal) 
Top Speed                -                       
CO2                      -                       
Color Option         
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Crystal Black Pearl 
Modern Steel Metallic
Lunar Silver Metallic
Platinum White Pearl 
Passion Red Pearl   
Specification    15" Option  16" Option 
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Wheel Type        Alloy        Alloy       
Wheel Size        15"          16"         
Tyre Size        185/60R15    185/55R16   
Spare Tyre Size  15"          15"         
Specification        Value         
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Transmission Type    Dual Clutch   
Fuel Type            Petrol       
Seating Capacity    5 Seats       
Power                181 hp       
Engine Displacement  1500 cc       
Specification                Measurement
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Fuel Tank Capacity (litres)  60 L     
Turning Radius              5.5 m     
No Of Doors                  5         
Seating Capacity            5 Seats   
Specification        Measurement (mm) Weight (kg)
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Length                4,580            -         
Width                1,748            -         
Height                1,467            -         
Wheelbase            2,600            -         
Tread Front          1,495            -         
Tread Rear            1,483            -         
Curb Weight          1,125            -         
Boot Capacity (litre) 519              -         
Title                  Proton S70 Specifications       
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Engine                1.6L Petrol Engine & 2.0L Petrol Engine           
Configuration          In-line 4 Cylinder 12 Valve DOHC
Fuel Supply System    Direct Injection               
No Of Cylinders        4                             
Valves Per Cylinder    4                               
Valve Configuration    DOHC                           
Turbocharger/Supercharger Turbocharged                 
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As we know, Proton's CEO Dr Li Chunrong  said in early September that the new Proton model will be released in two months' time. So based on his timeline, we are looking at a launch date of around the
1st or 2nd week of November. That is just a fortnight away.

18 November (Saturday) ?
11 November (Saturday) ???

18.11.2023 ?

11.11.2023 ???
Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
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30 percent like BMW
Possible Proton S70 specification.

The Proton S70 is likely to be equipped with the 1.5 liter TGDi turbocharged three-cylinder engine - same as its compatriot the X50 & X70, with DCT gearbox powering the wheels. Also expected to be included is the standard ADAS safety system.

The million dollar question: Proton S70 price?

You must have googled ‘Proton X70 expected price’ at least once right? No one knows, but we do have an idea. If we look at the three Japanese models mentioned above - The City, Vios and Almera.
These cars' price range are almost the same -

From RM 83k - RM 99k, with the exception of City 1.5L e:HEV RS which is priced at RM 111k.

The price of Proton S70 will likely be in the same competitive

RM 80k -RM 90k range,

though it wouldn't hurt us if Proton prices it slightly lower from Rm 70k onwards.

So, would you like to get your hands on the Proton S70?
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May I know where to get the info on price range? Only 83-99k?
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HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

When Honda Malaysia change this terms and conditions?
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