Oct 21 2023, 10:49 PM
QUOTE(constant_weight @ Oct 13 2023, 07:37 AM)
Experience is a lot better traffic jam, engine remain off longer then HEV at "0%" state. Unless one get stuck at Bukit Bintang friday evening jam, car don't move for 20-30min straight, other normal occation engine never turn on at stop even when battery show 0%.
Even when engine charging the battery at idle, PHEV is a lot quieter than HEV due to much much power engine. HEV tiny engine need to rev high rpm to charge.
HEV noise when charging battery when car is stop is enough to interrupt the conversation people sitting in the car. Kinda pause for few seconds, here come the noise, before continue.
I get below 7L/100km or above 14.3km/l over 760km distance day trip, with no change to charge. This is from actual refuel of 53L, not trip computer. Although my trip computer is accurate and true to refuel amount.
Can HEV more fuel economy than PHEV? In some case, sure. However HEV has only 25% of horsepower vs PHEV on average, and the result is on average 10-20% better fuel economy versus PHEV that don't charge at all.
Of course price also 30% of PHEV, but being said that if one can afford PHEV, there is no reason to settle for HEV.
I've now co owning a HRV RS hybrid, HEV.Even when engine charging the battery at idle, PHEV is a lot quieter than HEV due to much much power engine. HEV tiny engine need to rev high rpm to charge.
HEV noise when charging battery when car is stop is enough to interrupt the conversation people sitting in the car. Kinda pause for few seconds, here come the noise, before continue.
I get below 7L/100km or above 14.3km/l over 760km distance day trip, with no change to charge. This is from actual refuel of 53L, not trip computer. Although my trip computer is accurate and true to refuel amount.
Can HEV more fuel economy than PHEV? In some case, sure. However HEV has only 25% of horsepower vs PHEV on average, and the result is on average 10-20% better fuel economy versus PHEV that don't charge at all.
Of course price also 30% of PHEV, but being said that if one can afford PHEV, there is no reason to settle for HEV.
overall experience is not as bad as you said, but yes hybrid car not very fuel saving after all
Especially highways and even more so long distance
I'm getting 15-16 KM/L Melaka to KL then KL to Ipoh. (90-120km/h)
Civic FE on highways can go between 16-20 KM/L, at slightly higher speeds. (110-140km/h)
Yes the engine stays in a ton longer on highways, EV light comes on very less compared to stop go traffic lights /traffic jams. (Generally urban driving)
That's where HEV/ hybrids/EV shines.
The puny 1.5L Atkinson engine screams are there, but not loud enough to interrupt conversations.
But yes, like you said, PHEV comes at a premium, it "should" be a given being better, and whatever you saving will never ROI your money spent on the car.
Similarly to buying HEV vs ICE variants
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I haven't have change to sit in HEV in that kind of traffic.
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