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post Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM, updated 3y ago

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Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that.
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post Oct 11 2023, 07:44 AM

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Don’t think is questionable. They have resource and it’s merely a business transaction where one has needs and the other has service and they mutually exchange over a token
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post Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM

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My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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post Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM

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got demand got supply

but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD.

better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women.

not pay for sluts.
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post Oct 11 2023, 07:47 AM

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post Oct 11 2023, 07:48 AM

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I got friends who constantly buying since we were studying.

1. Tak da girl friend
2. Outlook not confident, fatty boom boom.

Of course they are craving for love story as well, but they just can't land any girls.
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post Oct 11 2023, 07:50 AM

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the immoral part is the adultery part
weather you pay for it or get it for free its still adultery

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post Oct 11 2023, 07:51 AM

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If you talking about religion view on this, yes it simmoral.
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post Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM

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How often you get it for free?

I mean like spend no money at all.

No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her.

U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?"

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post Oct 11 2023, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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No such thing as free. Always got some caveat.

Later he will get free plus a couple more of obligation.

And in a sense with man and woman equal.... women think that getting that gratification is their only part of the deal....what they do not realize they can get pregnant.


Anyhow when I was growing up, taught to not have promiscuous sex. So I include prostitution in that as being promiscuous. Anyhow, do think that people should be allowed to earn a living regardless of how they do it.
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:00 AM

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no

marriage also buying sex
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM

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Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C.

Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand.

Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers.
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Oct 11 2023, 07:58 AM)
Anyhow, do think that people should be allowed to earn a living regardless of how they do it.
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Including scammers? Mercenaries? Kongsi gelap? Ah Long?




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post Oct 11 2023, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:54 AM)
How often you get it for free?

I mean like spend no money at all.

No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her.

U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?"
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Not often, few times when I was in 20s

No car, no money, take bus to college.

Yet this few girl ajak to their house.
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
got demand got supply

but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD.

better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women.

not pay for sluts.
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even u find gf or wife to fxck, u need to shower them with love and money as well


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post Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
got demand got supply

but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD.

better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women.

not pay for sluts.
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buy = no commitment.

wait til you attract some pyscho women...
may even bring down your career
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yes it is, should follow the course of nature, men see woman, grab and poke nia like cat and dog
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:04 AM

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post Oct 11 2023, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Oct 11 2023, 08:02 AM)
Not often, few times when I was in 20s

No car, no money, take bus to college.

Yet this few girl ajak to their house.
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I oso get it for "free" before but then she wouldn't stop talking about getting married and having children. Told her already from the beginning I'm not interested in all that and she said it's ok, she just wants to be with me. Tipu.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM)
Including scammers? Mercenaries? Kongsi gelap? Ah Long?
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Oii... cannot like that. Now I have to preface it "honest living"

In which case you will also ask, soldiers is it honest living!!!!


Not everything is black and white ok.

The thing is earn a living and not hurting others directly.

In which case you also will think husband hurt their wife and family by visiting prostitute....

Is it that wrong to visit prostitute....? It is not exactly wrong...but also not very right.


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Why pay for movies if I can download it online for free?

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post Oct 11 2023, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM)
Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C.

Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand.

Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers.
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Heard this story before.

Old guy dying from terminal disease.

His wife allow him to visit prostitute to fulfill his sex bucket list before he die.

His bucket list:

1. Blowjob.
2. Doggy style.


Kesian.
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:16 AM

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its immoral if you have wife or attached to partner
its fair if you are single
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:06 AM)
I oso get it for "free" before but then she wouldn't stop talking about getting married and having children. Told her already from the beginning I'm not interested in all that and she said it's ok, she just wants to be with me. Tipu.
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Biasalah, she want tied you know when you are a Gold Mine

Mine is like FB, and somehow it spread among their girl lol

I don’t have long or big batang, but superb with tongue and touching skills

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post Oct 11 2023, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Oct 11 2023, 08:02 AM)
Not often, few times when I was in 20s

No car, no money, take bus to college.

Yet this few girl ajak to their house.
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:17 AM

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I think for them its like buying food.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:17 AM)
Landwhale?
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Landwhale, airport runway, and average body also got la

Me young that time semua sapu
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:20 AM

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When you say immoral then you are already view it from religious angle. So you have the answer.

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post Oct 11 2023, 08:22 AM

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There is no such things as free sex. Kesian ppl tot they get free sex.
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:24 AM

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is it illegal?
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post Oct 11 2023, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(jay @ Oct 11 2023, 08:16 AM)
its immoral if you have wife or attached to partner
its fair if you are single
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Will get bad karma no matter what because you are encouraging the girl to abuse her body, spreading HIV etc. She can have such a good body is due to her previous life good karma. Abusing it to earn money is bad.

We buy the meat to eat also bad ler because encourages them to kill more animals. haih.

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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Wrong, the loser is those who rape women, kid or own daughter.
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If any Malay girl ask 20k hantaran kawen to be your wife for her worn out pussy, hantam-ed by many men during her uni years before, yes that's an ouright immoral


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post Oct 11 2023, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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many times, free things are the most expensive cool2.gif

if you don't understand, its worth finding out this apparent contradiction biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:51 AM)
If you talking about religion view on this, yes it simmoral.
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Without realising that the 'prostitute' was his daughter-in-law, Judah paid Tamar for sex with his seal and it's cord and his staff and got her pregnant. Genesis 38.
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Yes it's immoral
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so.... Health delivery consider buy sex mou? chinti
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM)
buy = no commitment.

wait til you attract some pyscho women...
may even bring down your career
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This!!! Those pyscho can bring down your whole family too!!!
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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Ur pren bodo


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post Oct 11 2023, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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Your friend is Tyler durden?
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If you’re sex crazed then please dont seduce a poor innocent girl, court her, seduce her, sleep with her and then dump her. Just go find chicken and get it over with and save the innocents.
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Oct 11 2023, 08:35 AM)
This!!! Those pyscho can bring down your whole family too!!!
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especially in malaysia. most women are toxic.
dont think u can get away that easily after sleeping with them.


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>if no demand why supply?

how can it be made so that zero demand happens for paid pleasure? spouse had to be available to kangkang all the time anywhere? people had to be fully sated before going out from home?


>a sex worker doesnt necessarily need pleasure, but they need money

under the pressure of low demand, if they lower the fee; low enough to break marriages, why bother marrying?


>adultery intercourse outside marriage is immoral.

yeah billion of sperm is harmed, lets throw few stones to another 2 people. make it billions plus 2 being harmed.

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QUOTE(billy3336 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM)
even u find gf or wife to fxck, u need to shower them with love and money as well
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM)
buy = no commitment.

wait til you attract some pyscho women...
may even bring down your career
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if you find a psycho one, your fault already...

if you find the right one, give your soul also worth it thumbsup.gif


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:06 AM)
I oso get it for "free" before but then she wouldn't stop talking about getting married and having children. Told her already from the beginning I'm not interested in all that and she said it's ok, she just wants to be with me. Tipu.
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Tell her you are seeing someone else😂, sure get jealous and the fireworks go boom
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I dont know TS. Why dont you tell us what gave you buyers remorse with your last purchase?
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post Oct 11 2023, 09:01 AM

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You can do whatever you like. But being proud of your vice is another thing. That’s what I noticed among k-tards here. So happy to flaunt to everyone their “cheong” knowledge.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM)
How often you get it for free?

I mean like spend no money at all.

No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her.

U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?"
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true its fast track, cost effective, and u got to choose the best provider.
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there are time where some people pay for instant noodle cup
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If you think it as a service than there is nothing wrong with it.

Just like the massage service, you need to pay for it too.

Edit:
The statement above is applicable if the woman is not forced into pros, assuming she is willing to do it for work.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM)
How often you get it for free?

I mean like spend no money at all.

No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her.

U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?"
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^ this

most people don't realise all those opportunity costs e.g. time spend, and indirect costs that you listed above
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Oct 11 2023, 08:00 AM)
no

marriage also buying sex
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and that actually is the most expensive laugh.gif
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Free ur mum
Random pipu sudden ask you " hey wan fuck ?"
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 08:51 AM)
if you find a psycho one, your fault already...

if you find the right one, give your soul also worth it  thumbsup.gif
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u wont know they are crazy until you sleep with them.

thats the problem.


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kalau beli tu immoral, macam mana orang yang main rogol? Itu kira merompak
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Of course it is. Otherwise why everybody so discreet about it, hiding the act
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Oct 11 2023, 09:09 AM)
and that actually is the most expensive laugh.gif
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yup your right most expensive to buy sex

and very bad service
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 08:51 AM)
if you find a psycho one, your fault already...

if you find the right one, give your soul also worth it  :thumbsup:
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well, it's not the question of worth or not

be it wife,gf, prostitute, all woman need money at some point

except ons,but that only happens to handsome man
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Immoral yes, based on religion.

And if it's adultery, then yes immoral.

Otherwise, depends on law. If law don't allow, it's illegal.

For the people saying loser because they can get for free, it's dumb.

It's a transaction after all. People got money wan buy sex, it's their choice. It's like saying you can paint your own wall, only losers hire others to paint. And you can cook your own meals, only losers will pay for people to cook for them.
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
got demand got supply

but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD.

better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women.

not pay for sluts.
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If you can find one without money or effort, that person is a slut as well.

And if you're getting it free because others are putting in effort and money to have sex with you, then you're the prostitute.

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realistically it also reduces crime/rape case.
spur economy etc, some countries even gain tax from it
still its immoral and all but its not all bad
if the fella wanna f, with or without brothels still high chance he will f someone else i.e. ONS / casual sex
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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Pay is better than go rape whistling.gif

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QUOTE(waka14 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:54 AM)
Tell her you are seeing someone else😂, sure get jealous and the fireworks go boom
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I wasn't as manipulative as her. Sigh.


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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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During 2000s yes. After 2020. Your friend dreaming.
Bring for dinner - money
Bring for entertainment - money
Bring to hotel - money
Buy bags and jewelry - money

If no money your friend might as well just rub his house wall as losers.
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if you think about it, it saves families also

wife duwan gib > husband curang piap coworker keep as mistress > divorce

wife duwan gib > touch n go > husband happy, wife happy > no divorce
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If buy not immoral, sell also not immoral right?
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Buy - if get lucky. Good skill and experience
Free - mostly disappointing and bad skill
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post Oct 11 2023, 09:50 AM

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so you no need money to fetch your date go to shopping mall, buy something for her, belanja her makan and movie, and then go back to your/her house or hotel to pik piak?
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 11 2023, 09:32 AM)
If you can find one without money or effort, that person is a slut as well.

And if you're getting it free because others are putting in effort and money to have sex with you, then you're the prostitute.
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so you can make your own conclusion?

so sleep with slut or not?

pay wrong
dont pay wrong

apa lagi you mau

find a life partner ba, worth it.
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post Oct 11 2023, 09:58 AM

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Any sex outside marriage is immoral
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QUOTE(Artemis59 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:31 AM)
Without realising that the 'prostitute' was his daughter-in-law, Judah paid Tamar for sex with his seal and it's cord and his staff and got her pregnant. Genesis 38.
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Ok, then what? You only put 1 sentence.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 11 2023, 09:58 AM)
Any sex outside marriage is immoral
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Depends on who you ask....
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post Oct 11 2023, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 09:56 AM)
so you can make your own conclusion?

so sleep with slut or not?

pay wrong
dont pay wrong

apa lagi you mau

find a life partner ba, worth it.
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Huh?

Who say pay is wrong and who say don't pay is wrong? You know how to read or not?

Regardless, you have to pay for sex, unless you're the hooker. You auto assume slut, I also can auto assume if you find one that no need money/effort, that one also slut.

Apa lagi tak faham?




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QUOTE(EdEd @ Oct 11 2023, 09:32 AM)
realistically it also reduces crime/rape case.
spur economy etc, some countries even gain tax from it
still its immoral and all but its not all bad
if the fella wanna f, with or without brothels still high chance he will f someone else i.e. ONS / casual sex
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And this begs another question for discussion. Which would you consider more immoral (under the premise that sex outside marriage is immoral)? People who engage in paid sex or people who engage in ONS/casual sex?
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post Oct 11 2023, 10:19 AM

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Moral is not a question, Sex worker is oldest occupation for more than 2000 years.
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QUOTE(waka14 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:54 AM)
Tell her you are seeing someone else😂, sure get jealous and the fireworks go boom
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chances your didi kena boom / chop / cut higher than bedroom fireworks go boom
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It's a business transaction. Essentially you're purchasing a service. How is that immoral? Willing buyer, willing seller.
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does dildo / fake pusseh counts?
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post Oct 11 2023, 10:34 AM

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when you ask this question, it is confirm that you didnt enjoy having sex
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post Oct 11 2023, 10:34 AM

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immoral standards are very subjective to each person
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post Oct 11 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Oct 11 2023, 09:41 AM)
During 2000s yes. After 2020. Your friend dreaming.
Bring for dinner - money
Bring for entertainment - money
Bring to hotel - money
Buy bags and jewelry - money

If no money your friend might as well just rub his house wall as losers.
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hahah.. lucky i am young during 2000s. free and ready supply
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Questionable only if you are already in a monogamous relationship.
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you help them to sustain the family not pay sex

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nothing is questionable ....basically you spending money for your guilty pleasure...just like how you buy junk food
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QUOTE(doppatroll @ Oct 11 2023, 10:40 AM)
nothing is questionable ....basically you spending money for your guilty pleasure...just like how you buy junk food
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Well, sex is somehow a strangely taboo subject. I'm not saying I don't feel it, because I do, but if you think more, it's strange at how taboo it is.

Sex is considered a vice, but stuff like taking drugs is too. But somehow, we censor sex in shows that have no issues depicting drug abuse.

It's an issue that's deeply rooted in most of our cultures since a long time ago.
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TS, do you have a gf, or any ex-gfs?

Have you had sex with any of them?

If you have had sex with them, have you spent money on them?

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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no such thing as free...the time taken to bring the girl out dating all that is the price...he also know how to say buy for instant d laugh.gif
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When u morally right

But moral keeper take bribe from tauke

And your moral teacher pay few hundreds after rape believer

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There are pro and con
If you don't pay for it, you cant guarantee the quality of stock you'll be having, but the downside is most of the times you'll feel a sense of loneliness after ejaculation, cause you just drop-pant-cum-put-it-back-on, total disregard of human connections
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not buy sex

buy experience
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 09:50 AM)
so you no need money to fetch your date go to shopping mall, buy something for her, belanja her makan and movie, and then go back to your/her house or hotel to pik piak?
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the cost is depending on the buyer choice
some people need to spend rm1000 for one shot, but if you meet the girl outside of sex work, you may get to bed her for rm200
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unless u got sugar mummy, u get sex n money
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Oct 11 2023, 10:55 AM)
no such thing as free...the time taken to bring the girl out dating all that is the price...he also know how to say buy for instant d laugh.gif
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You just train your brain to be seeking dopamine effect right away, if you learn how to talk to girls, you learn how to have stronger inner belief and ultimately, sex is just the prize


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first of all have u try it?

then how much sex u need?

r u satisfy only with ur gf/wife?

if no but dunwan string attached - agong head make ur didi head wonder lo
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM)
Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C.

Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand.

Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers.
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Correct.

Actually = Free one = the most expensive one.

True veteran will know this.
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QUOTE(biggie @ Oct 11 2023, 10:36 AM)
hahah.. lucky i am young during 2000s. free and ready supply
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Yes. During that time you can get free. But now sorry to say no more already.
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Oct 11 2023, 10:32 AM)
does dildo / fake pusseh counts?
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depends if you buy them or borrow from friends
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Oct 11 2023, 09:08 AM)
^ this

most people don't realise all those opportunity costs e.g. time spend, and indirect costs that you listed above
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Very true, actually much cheaper to just go for the pros and no strings attached.
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post Oct 11 2023, 11:14 AM

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you buy also have to worry about HIV , STDs .... if unlucky condom pecah etc... suffer 1 lifetime.


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM)
How often you get it for free?

I mean like spend no money at all.

No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her.

U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?"
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"The most expensive sex is free sex"
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QUOTE(teslaman @ Oct 11 2023, 09:03 AM)
true its fast track, cost effective, and u got to choose the best provider.
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this quote i like.

Fast tracked, cost effective & Flexibility to choose.
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Got girl pickup him go hotel piap then send him back
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post Oct 11 2023, 11:22 AM

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Though it us illegal if sex without paying
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post Oct 11 2023, 11:23 AM

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Looks like a lot ktard kena kidnap by free sex from friends of benefit

cerita lah sikit, how they culik u guys? by threaten you sponsor for LV bag after sek? or asking you different poses when seksing?
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is it immoral to Sell sex? :S
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post Oct 11 2023, 11:44 AM

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It is also immoral to fuck kids. Yet we have a lot of religious leaders that do that all the time.

Taking bribes is wrong. Yet we have govt browntards doing it all the time.

Making the best out of ourselves and not relying on govt for support is the right thing. Yet majority of the ppl don't do that.
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post Oct 11 2023, 11:55 AM

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lol....u think sex is ever free?

always oso got T&C


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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 11 2023, 07:48 AM)
I got friends who constantly buying since we were studying.

1. Tak da girl friend
2. Outlook not confident, fatty boom boom.

Of course they are craving for love story as well, but they just can't land any girls.
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bullshit
there are guys who have butter face and short
still able to sleep with hotter girls without have to pay (directly)
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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM)
Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that.
Discuss.

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as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei
we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik
so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 03:00 PM)
as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei
we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik
so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex
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gua tatau, gua virgin bro
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actually sex is supposed to be FREE.

if you know what sex is.... haha
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM)
How often you get it for free?

I mean like spend no money at all.

No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her.

U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?"
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dating on romantic dinner already cost u more than 1 shot in the market,.. economically speaking,..
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 03:00 PM)
as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei
we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik
so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex
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and for the chick to leave, instead of sticking to you after the hump icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 11 2023, 03:04 PM)
gua tatau, gua virgin bro
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Only with paid u can have experienced all the JAV nasty stuff and fantasy

Bet u wont get it with ur wife/gf mostly deadfish

Of coz if u got it bonus for you....but hey paid oso u gt to tried so many type of sihams...

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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM)
Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that.
Discuss.

user posted image
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If it is a business, there is nothing immoral about the transaction. Having said that people who have to sell/buy sex, I see them as weaklings. It is possible to have sex without paying and if they have to pay for it, yeah, pity.
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If u wanna get laid without paying aka get a gf...is not hard if u not picky....many landwhale & nasty karen is available whether its in your appetite anot


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QUOTE(djlake @ Oct 11 2023, 03:18 PM)
If it is a business, there is nothing immoral about the transaction. Having said that people who have to sell/buy sex, I see them as weaklings. It is possible to have sex without paying and if they have to pay for it, yeah, pity.
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How to have sex without paying? U strip naked n girl said lets fuck?
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QUOTE(party @ Oct 11 2023, 03:22 PM)
How to have sex without paying? U strip naked n girl said lets fuck?
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Technically u still need to pay for a pusseh....pikat amoi/awek u think no need spend anything ke i.e time effort energy emotion

Its just the money pay and goes to diff channel ...


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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Oct 11 2023, 03:22 PM)
If u wanna get laid without paying aka get a gf...is not hard if u not picky....many landwhale & nasty karen is available whether its in your appetite anot
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U tink gf is free?
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Oct 11 2023, 03:24 PM)
Technically u still need to pay for a pusseh....pikat amoi/awek u think no need spend anything ke i.e time effort energy emotion

Its just the money pay and goes to diff channel ...
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Same channel only.
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Actually the best thing about buying sex is when you pay the whore. She just let you used her in exchange for a little money. Money that I would not remember wasting anyway.

Bonus point if my money supported human trafficking
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 02:55 PM)
bullshit
there are guys who have butter face and short
still able to sleep with hotter girls without have to pay (directly)
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haiya dont general it la, you have friends can get laid so im happy with your butter face friends.

But my friends betul betul tak da girl friend experience in his 30s, how can help?
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Money cant buy experience weh
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Longest surviving industry. There is a reason why it exist since day 1 until now.
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Oct 11 2023, 03:22 PM)
If u wanna get laid without paying aka get a gf...is not hard if u not picky....many landwhale & nasty karen is available whether its in your appetite anot
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nowadays landwhale and karen already "woke", they are most picky than most girls
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 11 2023, 03:28 PM)
haiya dont general it la, you have friends can get laid so im happy with your butter face friends.

But my friends betul betul tak da girl friend experience in his 30s, how can help?
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that means he's low self esteem to begin with
if the guy need to use money to get sex, fundamentally there's blockage with his communication and upbringing
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ Oct 11 2023, 04:39 PM)
nowadays landwhale and karen already "woke", they are most picky than most girls
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Ive had couple of divorced milf and 30s single women
they have their own place, they will agree for me to come over
but sometimes its too far i lazy go also
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 04:48 PM)
Ive had couple of divorced milf and 30s single women
they have their own place, they will agree for me to come over
but sometimes its too far i lazy go also
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kekw, u are known womenizer, u got good looks ,not everyone is bleesed, how's ur worries for hiv?


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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 03:00 PM)
as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei
we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik
so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 11 2023, 03:04 PM)
gua tatau, gua virgin bro
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 04:48 PM)
Ive had couple of divorced milf and 30s single women
they have their own place, they will agree for me to come over
but sometimes its too far i lazy go also
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see, it's not free for you too...
too far cause you lazy (your time cost), time spend are travelling expenses are your costs in case you went
nothing is free
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Use money to buy time, and use time to get more money
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Oct 11 2023, 07:16 PM)
see, it's not free for you too...
too far cause you lazy (your time cost), time spend are travelling expenses are your costs in case you went
nothing is free
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if its first time, i will go explore
If it becomes regular partner, sometimes im just too lazy
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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Oct 11 2023, 07:17 PM)
Use money to buy time, and use time to get more money
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not necessarily
there are a lot of semi wealthy men still unable to get girls consistently, just because a person knows how to make money doesn't mean he must be good with social or networking
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 09:08 PM)
if its first time, i will go explore
If it becomes regular partner, sometimes im just too lazy
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I'm curious. Why lazy go? What other stuff u need to do before and after fucking that made u hesitate?
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:12 PM)
I'm curious. Why lazy go? What other stuff u need to do before and after fucking that made u hesitate?
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lack of chemistry
or you can say my novelty seeking is quite strong
during free time, i will rather do some studying

the thing is, most of my first (few) dates cost can be low
it shouldnt be that expensive or trying hard to impress the girl that myself might feel anxious, because the fact i put more investment cost
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Not free when you re paying with your time


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It's a service. So pay for it, unless if u get free service.
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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Still a loser then
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
got demand got supply

but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD.

better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women.

not pay for sluts.
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But sluts are tasty. Some of us here love sluts.

IE: i can fuck her both ways anal and front and she squirt like crazy after 1 hour of hardcore banging.

Totally diff from making love with spouse or gf.

I can abuse her i can spit in her mouth … u get the idea.

And to those who think they can date all they want and find all the woman they want..wait till u meet a serial fucker.

Who wants to fuck 4 diff girls a day and have all the resources to do that.

THEN WE PAY AFTER COURTING SOMEONE WIFE AND MILF…

an average RED CARD HOOKER FUCKS 8 to 12 guys a day.

I knew some guys who fucks 4 to 5 girls a days . Ya pornstar- but heck obssesion / drugs are normal when ur rich and bored.



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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 09:10 PM)
not necessarily
there are a lot of semi wealthy men still unable to get girls consistently, just because a person knows how to make money doesn't mean he must be good with social or networking
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Whats the going rate for these professional girls nowadys?

RM400 can get?

Asking for research purposes.

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if u nt cheongster u will have diff thoughts la ...just to let u know most cheongsters are married / got gf also

they are not ugly or poor ....like i said they are seeking for something that is missing from their partner....and yet they can get it instantly just by paying...wat they get is experience and fantasy...i dont deny men can be easily bored with their partner

so no ned generalise cheongster is ugly or no money or watever....it comes from all walks of life doctor/lawyer/lecturer/ uni youngster /bosses/etc




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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM)
Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that.
Discuss.

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buying sex is just better in alot of ways
the syndicate behind it that is doing alot of harm
you don't get it cos u not life experience enough yet
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I don’t know why prostitution is not legal.

It should be legal. Having sex is nothing to be ashamed and embarrassed about it. We are breathing today is because of sex. Nature is what is it today also because of sex. Even if money is involved I still don’t understand what is the problem. You give something out because you are getting something in return whether that something is tangible or intangible.

Legalise prostitution is the correct path
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 11:01 AM)
You just train your brain to be seeking dopamine effect right away, if you learn how to talk to girls, you learn how to have stronger inner belief and ultimately, sex is just the prize
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got any specific tip? i have no issues talking to girls but i believe there's a better way?
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Oct 11 2023, 10:06 PM)
if u nt cheongster u will have diff thoughts la ...just to let u know most cheongsters are married / got gf also

they are not ugly or poor ....like i said they are seeking for something that is missing from their partner....and yet they can get it instantly just by paying...wat they get is experience and fantasy...i dont deny men can be easily bored with their partner

so no ned generalise cheongster is ugly or no money or watever....it comes from all walks of life doctor/lawyer/lecturer/ uni youngster /bosses/etc
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When I was married, I also cheong after wife start to ration sex. U feel less guilty cheong compared to having a mistress. Also less potential for complications amd drama.

After I divorce, start dating girls and quit cheong. Im in the camp of "Free" sex is better than cheong. Free is in quotes coz of course not totally free. There are costs to dating, but its not so costly with the right girl. Also having company for dinner or movie is pleasurable on its own.

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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
got demand got supply

but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD.

better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women.

not pay for sluts.
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Nothing is free. It's either pay for sex or spend money on girl until she give you sex. Both needs money. If you thinking of spending money only on yourself can get free sex, if you not handsome enough then you slow slow wait.
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Oct 11 2023, 03:24 PM)
Technically u still need to pay for a pusseh....pikat amoi/awek u think no need spend anything ke i.e time effort energy emotion

Its just the money pay and goes to diff channel ...
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Oct 11 2023, 10:28 PM)
i have no issues talking to girls but i believe there's a better way?
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even a psychopath may still have a minor anxiety
so to claim yourself have no issues talking to girls
means you've godlike complex
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QUOTE(potatolala @ Oct 11 2023, 10:11 PM)
I don’t know why prostitution is not legal.

It should be legal. Having sex is nothing to be ashamed and embarrassed about it. We are breathing today is because of sex. Nature is what is it today also because of sex. Even if money is involved I still don’t understand what is the problem. You give something out because you are getting something in return whether that something is tangible or intangible.

Legalise prostitution is the correct path
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Legal prostitution means decrease of commercial needs ie marriage counsellor, this is not necessarily good for economics
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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Oct 11 2023, 09:49 PM)
Probably by choice.
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If you go to social event
those who holds the glass in front of their chest or just playing their phone, will not outcompete those who possibly have lower income but charismatic and unfazed initiation ability

the moment when someone opens their mouth
you can tell how confident they're
and their ability to sustain that spotlight effect

this kind of ability, cannot be bought by just paying for sex
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personally, i dont condemn paying for sex.
supply & demand, ntgh's wrong, as long as u dun so stupid & get attached.

however, i hav problem wit guys who pay for sex, & then hail themself of some kind of cheongstsr player wit high body count.
no, that's not how the real hame is played.
those that u paid for doesn't count in your body count.

call me old fashioned, i com from the time b4 social media was such a hit, b4 tinder.
i com from the good old times of meeting girls in the bar, ONS from clubbing, having fwb.
all these need skills, & u're aren't getting any if u din got no game.
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Immoral or not, this is much much much better than rape or self farming.

Pls, and I really mean pls, don't try to acah holy by saying this kind of acts are immoral but go rape or harvest at the back. What an animal
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM)
Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C.

Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand.

Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers.
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STD is actually more prevalent among casual sex
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM)
personally, i dont condemn paying for sex.
supply & demand, ntgh's wrong, as long as u dun so stupid & get attached.

however, i hav problem wit guys who pay for sex, & then hail themself of some kind of cheongstsr player wit high body count.
no, that's not how the real hame is played.
those that u paid for doesn't count in your body count.

call me old fashioned, i com from the time b4 social media was such a hit, b4 tinder.
i com from the good old times of meeting girls in the bar, ONS from clubbing, having fwb.
all these need skills, & u're aren't getting any if u din got no game.
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Time has changed boss
Back in those day even thaimoi at hardyai also seduce us back then , stay there for free, temporary gf/bf, only condition if u go there only can sleep with her no other, if she find out, fireworks laugh.gif

Half of passport was just full of Tai border chop lol

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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Oct 12 2023, 12:25 AM)
Time has changed boss
Back in those day even thaimoi at hardyai also seduce us back then , stay there for free, temporary gf/bf, only condition if u go there only can sleep with her no other, if she find out, fireworks laugh.gif

Half of passport was just full of Tai border chop lol
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boys nowadays are weak & has no game.

from experience, picking up girls at bar develops your social skills wit women, while being in relationship (or fwb) develop your sexual skills.

just paying for sex doesn't help develop any skills.
dun just take my word for it, it's from 1 of my fwb bck then.
she said some of her worst encounters are not virgin or newbies, rather those so called "cheongstar".
we theorized that it might be bcoz these guys doesn't really know how to please women sexually, & more focus on his own pleasures.
cuz when they pay for prostitute, prostitute pretend they r enjoying, fake orgasm, so he though he's doing everything right when it's not.
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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM)
Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that.
Discuss.

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How izit different thsn getting a wife? You don't have to spend money? The ring, the gifts, the dinner,
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A prostitute is like any other woman
They all trade somethin' for sex and they do it well.
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 11:53 PM)
If you go to social event
those who holds the glass in front of their chest or just playing their phone, will not outcompete those who possibly have lower income but charismatic and unfazed initiation ability

the moment when someone opens their mouth
you can tell how confident they're
and their ability to sustain that spotlight effect

this kind of ability, cannot be bought by just paying for sex
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B40 vs T20
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A prostitute is like any other woman
They all trade somethin' for sex and they do it well.
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this song kana ban wei
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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:20 AM)
this quote i like.

Fast tracked, cost effective & Flexibility to choose.
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Yes, low ownership cost, zero pattern risk. Effective pay per use. Dramaless.

Doesnt mean you like to drink milk, you want to own the cow.
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2023, 09:28 PM)
But sluts are tasty. Some of us here love sluts.

IE: i can fuck her both ways anal and front and she squirt like crazy after 1 hour of hardcore banging.

Totally diff from making love with spouse or gf.

I can abuse her i can spit in her mouth … u get the idea.

And to those who think they can date all they want and find all the woman they want..wait till u meet a serial fucker.

Who wants to fuck 4 diff girls a day and have all the resources to do that.

THEN WE PAY AFTER COURTING SOMEONE WIFE AND MILF…

an average RED CARD HOOKER FUCKS 8 to 12 guys a day.

I knew some guys who fucks 4 to 5 girls a days . Ya pornstar- but heck obssesion / drugs are normal when ur rich and bored.
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So why you can't have that kind of sex with your significant others. I know people who do.

Start leveling up your game in the bedroom


Those who sleep for body count purpose and to flex, good luck to them. The emptiness of the soul screams by the day
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 12 2023, 02:16 AM)
Those who sleep for body count purpose and to flex, good luck to them. The emptiness of the soul screams by the day
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some males put their base primal animal instincts = reproduce as much as possible the top priority in their life

some males still stuck at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs base level, hope they can move on

some males have other priorities instead, to each of their own

this thread is seeking a conclusive social conformity. good luck~
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nope..if you are single totally fine..as long you dont force urself on the girl..
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 12 2023, 02:16 AM)
So why you can't have that kind of sex with your significant others. I know people who do.

Start leveling up your game in the bedroom
Those who sleep for body count purpose and to flex, good luck to them. The emptiness of the soul screams by the day
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More like trophies - and variety- you can have ur opinion but there many out there hunting .

Its fun . Lol. To each its own kan. Fuck away guys - lets spread the seed everywhere. Nature wants us too.

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM)
Immoral or not, this is much much much better than rape or self farming.

Pls, and I really mean pls, don't try to acah holy by saying this kind of acts are immoral but go rape or harvest at the back. What an animal
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Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing.




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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 09:42 AM)
Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing.
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Huh? Your analogy damn terbalik.

You equate rape to robbers. Rape get free sex, robbers get free resources. Then how is prostitution equivalent to giving robbers free money? Legalization of prostitution just mean another source of sex in exchange for money. But u make it sound like it's free.

Anyway, I suspect a significant portion of rape and tuai is not because of the lack of legalized prostitution. There are other hurdles between them and sex.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 09:42 AM)
Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing.
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Because they need something to blame for them to feel better when they commit crimes. It’s always the fault of everyone except themselves.

Lack of self control and full of lust, then blame women attire when they commit rape. It speaks volume about their mentality
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Similar as fixing your car, car broken then either self repair if you know how to or send to workshop for repair. You gatal horny either self service or pay some girl whose offering service to fulfill your horniness. No wrong or right, as long as you play safe of course...
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Wise man once said, you are not paying them to have sex. You are paying them to leave afterwards.

Some people wanted to have this service for peace of mind and little to none repercussions afterwards.


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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM)
personally, i dont condemn paying for sex.
supply & demand, ntgh's wrong, as long as u dun so stupid & get attached.

however, i hav problem wit guys who pay for sex, & then hail themself of some kind of cheongstsr player wit high body count.
no, that's not how the real hame is played.
those that u paid for doesn't count in your body count.

call me old fashioned, i com from the time b4 social media was such a hit, b4 tinder.
i com from the good old times of meeting girls in the bar, ONS from clubbing, having fwb.
all these need skills, & u're aren't getting any if u din got no game.
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Hookers included in lay count?
what the hell is that, delusional
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QUOTE(fraudcommission @ Oct 12 2023, 03:02 AM)
some males put their base primal animal instincts = reproduce as much as possible the top priority in their life

some males still stuck at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs base level, hope they can move on

some males have other priorities instead, to each of their own

this thread is seeking a conclusive social conformity. good luck~
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the ability to ejaculate and evacuate is also a skill
because it requires time and commitment to hone your sword to hunt
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QUOTE(wildan03 @ Oct 12 2023, 10:07 AM)
Wise man once said, you are not paying them to have sex. You are paying them to leave afterwards.

Some people wanted to have this service for peace of mind and little to none repercussions afterwards.
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This is what mgtow or blackpiller says
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 09:50 AM)
Huh? Your analogy damn terbalik.

You equate rape to robbers. Rape get free sex, robbers get free resources. Then how is prostitution equivalent to giving robbers free money? Legalization of prostitution just mean another source of sex in exchange for money. But u make it sound like it's free.

Anyway, I suspect a significant portion of rape and tuai is not because of the lack of legalized prostitution. There are other hurdles between them and sex.
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I am just implying the argument that most prostitute dwellers that justified prostitution would prevent rapes and incests by saying giving money out will prevent robberies and thefts. Its like giving in to some kind of exploits to reduce crimes from happening. Things just wouldn't work that way.

Nobody is saying sex should be free - as women loses if they gave it out without commitment but men lose as much if not more if they commit to the wrong women. Nevertheless, when transaction of money for sex (aka prostitution) are involved, it created social problems which blames men as the perpetrator higher than the other gender as the percentage of men paying for sex are way way way higher than women.

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Because they need something to blame for them to feel better when they commit crimes. It’s always the fault of everyone except themselves.

Lack of self control and full of lust, then blame women attire when they commit rape. It speaks volume about their mentality
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What are you implying? That rapists blame the lack of prostitution for raping and tuai-ing? sweat.gif

Or because women attire?

Anyhow, that still won't explain how prostitution will reduce sexual violence.

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 12 2023, 09:35 AM)
More like trophies - and variety- you can have ur opinion but there many out there hunting .

Its fun . Lol. To each its own kan. Fuck away guys - lets spread the seed everywhere. Nature wants us too.
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Yes, a few men are like this.

Planting seeds everywhere, kids grow up without a father, mother becomes prostitutes to make a living.

and the cycle continue...

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 09:42 AM)
Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing.
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robbery is taking something from another party using force without consent
prostitution usually willing buyer willing seller, just set aside human trafficking here as it's another subject
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robbery is taking something from another party using force without consent
prostitution usually willing buyer willing seller, just set aside human trafficking here as it's another subject
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Why cherry-pick some terms to try justify the differences? What was being said was about giving in something to prevent something else from happening. Pretty sure rape is also the similar when it comes to force and consent for the perpetrator to attain dunno whatever that are in their minds (which ain't money).

Since prostitution rings are linked to human trafficking - there are no deception, force or rape involved before reaching the brothel for willing buyer seller part? That is what prostitute dwellers justify themselves to make themselves feel less guilty.

Regarding consent related, escorts are a different story as they likely do that out of their own will but again, but that is another issue that also won't bring down sexual crimes against women as claimed by prostitute dwellers.

Whether it is immoral or not is totally out of question, but to claim that it brings down sexual crime rates is totally untrue, immoral and hypocritical. Still I don't think people are condemning, but highlighting that by doing so is indeed immoral, as this degrades men due to exploitation of women.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 10:38 AM)
I am just implying the argument that most prostitute dwellers that justified prostitution would prevent rapes and incests by saying giving money out will prevent robberies and thefts. Its like giving in to some kind of exploits to reduce crimes from happening. Things just wouldn't work that way.

Nobody is saying sex should be free - as women loses if they gave it out without commitment but men lose as much if not more if they commit to the wrong women. Nevertheless, when transaction of money for sex (aka prostitution) are involved, it created social problems which blames men as the perpetrator higher than the other gender as the percentage of men paying for sex are way way way higher than women.

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I'm just saying you call giving out free money as an analogy is flawed. A correct parallel would be to say if jobs with sufficient earnings for proper living conditions are there for the masses, people would not resort to robbery. I'm not sure if it will solves those problems or not, but I reckon it would reduce it. Prostitution still involves equivalent exchange, while giving free money doesn't. That's why the correct parallel would be proper jobs as jobs is also about equivalent exchange. But then there's the argument that jobs are scarce, or that jobs that are available aren't enough.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 11:20 AM)
Why cherry-pick some terms to try justify the differences? What was being said was about giving in something to prevent something else from happening. Pretty sure rape is also the similar when it comes to force and consent for the perpetrator to attain dunno whatever that are in their minds (which ain't money).

Since prostitution rings are linked to human trafficking - there are no deception, force or rape involved before reaching the brothel for willing buyer seller part? That is what prostitute dwellers justify themselves to make themselves feel less guilty.

Regarding consent related, escorts are a different story as they likely do that out of their own will but again, but that is another issue that also won't bring down sexual crimes against women as claimed by prostitute dwellers.

Whether it is immoral or not is totally out of question, but to claim that it brings down sexual crime rates is totally untrue, immoral and hypocritical. Still I don't think people are condemning, but highlighting that by doing so is indeed immoral, as this degrades men due to exploitation of women.
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You're just conflating at this point. The talk about legalising prostitution is under the premise that it's done properly. But you're just diverting to human trafficking and other crimes.

And somehow "whether it's immoral or not is out of the question", but just theorising that legalized prostitution can bring down sexual crime rates is immoral and hypocritical? While I'm unsure if it will bring down or not, I understand the reasoning behind it. Personally, I don't think it will help to a significant level, especially not in Malaysia because quite a number of sexual assaults are situations won't be alleviated by the presence of legal prostitutes.
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Hookers included in lay count?
what the hell is that, delusional
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the ability to ejaculate and evacuate is also a skill
because it requires time and commitment to hone your sword to hunt
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Your insistence on justifying your way of thinking seems somewhat miserable; it exposes insecurity.
You might still be stuck at the basic level of needs, or you might have already achieved self-actualisation (a life goal akin to honing your sword or something similar).

The fact that you need to keep pushing your 'guruness' onto others suggests the former.
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QUOTE(fraudcommission @ Oct 12 2023, 01:41 PM)
Your insistence on justifying your way of thinking seems somewhat miserable; it exposes insecurity.
You might still be stuck at the basic level of needs, or you might have already achieved self-actualisation (a life goal akin to honing your sword or something similar).

The fact that you need to keep pushing your 'guruness' onto others suggests the former.
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If one can make sales, why cant a person get lay
So making money is not basic necessity? Lol
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 12:57 PM)
Hahahaha, what's the point in getting pressed over people's body count?don't even need to talk about want to count hookers or not, people can just straight up lie about it. Whose gonna check?
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you can tell whether someone is lying or not by their inflection of tonality its hard to fake
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 12 2023, 06:37 AM)
you can tell whether someone is lying or not by their inflection of tonality its hard to fake
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muka pecah + stupid assumption on wimmin + tonality like "how hard it was to make them kangkang"

can conlanfirm surely this guy paid for piap, also, poorfag even pay for piap also had it hard to piap properly.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Oct 12 2023, 02:42 PM)
muka pecah + stupid assumption on wimmin + tonality like "how hard it was to make them kangkang"

can conlanfirm surely this guy paid for piap, also, poorfag even pay for piap also had it hard to piap properly.
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If the guy think girl owes him sex
of course he wouldnt get it lah
the main reason why guys pay for sex (i think)
they don't want to go thru rejection ma
If they view rejection as painful, of course it will be painful
I get rejected too many times at this point im almost gone out with 276+ females
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 12:44 PM)
I'm just saying you call giving out free money as an analogy is flawed. A correct parallel would be to say if jobs with sufficient earnings for proper living conditions are there for the masses, people would not resort to robbery. I'm not sure if it will solves those problems or not, but I reckon it would reduce it. Prostitution still involves equivalent exchange, while giving free money doesn't. That's why the correct parallel would be proper jobs as jobs is also about equivalent exchange. But then there's the argument that jobs are scarce, or that jobs that are available aren't enough.
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The "I give you money now, so need not rob" analogy merely a reference of exchange to attain a desired outcome - hence exchanges be it physical, sexual, monetary or circumstances applies despite the differences of an exchange.

To blanketly claim a field that is mostly a product of crime and exploitation (i.e prostitution) to drastically reduce incest and rape cases is totally nonsense.

QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 12:55 PM)
You're just conflating at this point. The talk about legalising prostitution is under the premise that it's done properly. But you're just diverting to human trafficking and other crimes.

And somehow "whether it's immoral or not is out of the question", but just theorizing that legalized prostitution can bring down sexual crime rates is immoral and hypocritical? While I'm unsure if it will bring down or not, I understand the reasoning behind it. Personally, I don't think it will help to a significant level, especially not in Malaysia because quite a number of sexual assaults are situations won't be alleviated by the presence of legal prostitutes.
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Conflating in solid points is still better than cherry-picking on what-if points. Facts on relation between prostitution and human trafficking cannot be negated with feelings alone. While it is still immoral regardless of the legality, most pro-prostitution refused to acknowledge that legalizing prostitution will not reduce crime and exploitation against women, far less ceasing to exist. The only benefit would be for crime syndicates to legalize their businesses and expand their trafficking syndicates which translate to abuse of more women, and more fun for subscribers to be less careful about protection (which is a dream for raw goers), that's it.

Hence, how is it not hypocritical for prostitute dwellers to go for prostitution services, claim such activity will reduce sexual crimes against women, when it is built on crime?

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 12 2023, 07:06 AM)
If the guy think girl owes him sex
of course he wouldnt get it lah
the main reason why guys pay for sex (i think)
they don't want to go thru rejection ma
If they view rejection as painful, of course it will be painful
I get rejected too many times at this point im almost gone out with 276+ females
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Too weak level liao liddat.

Imagine that's x10 harder for a Chinese Guy to get an Amoi.

Drive father's S Class 20 years ago to pickup amoi, kena comment why not godcar vios dugong.
Bring go Seremban Charcoal Crab and Port Dickson, say why no bring her to Sungei Wang, Berjaya Time Square, Starhill, wadafak.
Back then, takde groupon. Wanna go hotel eat buffet expensive shit.
Walau...

But now, everything is money money money. (Money now is your difficulty reduction perishable item. Use 10 x 100 ringgit, difficulty reduces by 10%. Use 100 of the notes, difficulty no where existing liao)

Even till today I hunt people's wife also will have to get through many rejections. Some of them is even at the point you sudah thorlong, teasing, this and that, but then never get to the final stage which is bring them into one of my friend's available Airbnb, then proceed with taking off everything and start cucuke. But at the same time, even if you dun get rejections, the chances of pancut is always a variable. Imagine you hunt 100 milfs, 50 success to bed, but maybe 40 out of that 50 got some smelly meowmeow, disfigured abdominal appearance due to concieving and giving birth, and all sort of problem issues here n there. If able to cucuke inside 10 sudah counted very very very lucky liao.

And this is like you're playing baccarat. Life is all about gambling your chances, wisely.


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bosses who paid salary also losers...real men get slaves to work for free
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Oct 12 2023, 03:43 PM)
Too weak level liao liddat.

Imagine that's x10 harder for a Chinese Guy to get an Amoi.

Drive father's S Class 20 years ago to pickup amoi, kena comment why not godcar vios dugong.
Bring go Seremban Charcoal Crab and Port Dickson, say why no bring her to Sungei Wang, Berjaya Time Square, Starhill, wadafak.
Back then, takde groupon. Wanna go hotel eat buffet expensive shit.
Walau...

But now, everything is money money money. (Money now is your difficulty reduction perishable item. Use 10 x 100 ringgit, difficulty reduces by 10%. Use 100 of the notes, difficulty no where existing liao)

Even till today I hunt people's wife also will have to get through many rejections. Some of them is even at the point you sudah thorlong, teasing, this and that, but then never get to the final stage which is bring them into one of my friend's available Airbnb, then proceed with taking off everything and start cucuke. But at the same time, even if you dun get rejections, the chances of pancut is always a variable. Imagine you hunt 100 milfs, 50 success to bed, but maybe 40 out of that 50 got some smelly meowmeow, disfigured abdominal appearance due to concieving and giving birth, and all sort of problem issues here n there. If able to cucuke inside 10 sudah counted very very very lucky liao.

And this is like you're playing baccarat. Life is all about gambling your chances, wisely.
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U have hunt white milfs? Easy for Chinese guys go after angmoh women in UK?
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imagine u wan eat burger, u go mcd buy coz convenience and u no need cook .

same as amoi or aboi, u no need go through the hassle of courtship, wear handsome handsome, buy flower iPhones etc - just use money settle.

so not immoral at all as long as counterpart willing offer.

on top of that, even u cook, it can be taste sucks. same as ur own effort amoi, it can be fugly.

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Ask the seller whether it is immoral to sell sex.

Willing buyer. Wiling seller. Get approval from PASial for "halal" certification.
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They don’t call it oldest profession in the world for no reason…

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Oct 22 2023, 11:37 AM)
Those who say wives and girlfriends are free, no they are not.
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM)
My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex
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Your friend is a loser as well.



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QUOTE(Le Don @ Oct 22 2023, 03:26 AM)
U have hunt white milfs? Easy for Chinese guys go after angmoh women in UK?
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Wont say easy, but not super hard either. I would say that the challenges falls at the part like:

1. They got a fakaped husband, or a wreck of a kind (well, its often the latter. Drunkard, gambler, lazy mofo, crazy wife hitter, etc)
2. The milf herself is a mess. You can't realize it from first sight since most of them are either dress well, sloppily, like a whore, or not. You gotta know to know.
3. Special kind, think about sick, mess in the head, issue here there, or literally a poison to the man.

Of course, there's always an exception here and there. But I'll always tell myself, "Don't be desperate, or the angmoh will catch hint of your desperation and use that to fish you and not otherwise." If asian girl is more to "malu la, tak mau la, takut la, what if..." then the angmoh girl is more to "you wanna pancut inside? Tell me the truth, I can see that on your face, hmm... we can make a deal out of this... Why not, given that you..."

My experience so far is few (I secretly fancy blondies so the angmoh that I always go blondie milf), and failure is unaccountable. But on the bed, you can expect a wilder wimmin compared to an Asian one that's more to kena piap and less resistance.
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Oct 22 2023, 04:18 AM)
Your friend is a loser as well.
Master of confuse.
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When one is already at that level, its always ended up at:

I do, kolek.
You do, all wrong.
Me fakap, you wrong.
You fakap, coz never listen to me when I say you wrong.

Even if he Premature pancut, its coz that 18 years old amoi birgin sudah kena piap and longgar, not because his own is a toothpick and muka pecah.

 

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