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Is it immoral to buy sex?
Is it immoral to buy sex?
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Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM, updated 3y ago
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Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that.
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Oct 11 2023, 07:44 AM
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Don’t think is questionable. They have resource and it’s merely a business transaction where one has needs and the other has service and they mutually exchange over a token
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Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM
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My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex Yveatel liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM
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got demand got supply
but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD. better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women. not pay for sluts. |
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Oct 11 2023, 07:47 AM
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Beats lape
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Oct 11 2023, 07:48 AM
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I got friends who constantly buying since we were studying.
1. Tak da girl friend 2. Outlook not confident, fatty boom boom. Of course they are craving for love story as well, but they just can't land any girls. |
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Oct 11 2023, 07:50 AM
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the immoral part is the adultery part
weather you pay for it or get it for free its still adultery |
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Oct 11 2023, 07:51 AM
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If you talking about religion view on this, yes it simmoral.
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Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM
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How often you get it for free? I mean like spend no money at all. No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her. U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?" This post has been edited by JohnL77: Oct 11 2023, 07:59 AM skyblack4492, hksgmy, and 15 others liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex No such thing as free. Always got some caveat.Later he will get free plus a couple more of obligation. And in a sense with man and woman equal.... women think that getting that gratification is their only part of the deal....what they do not realize they can get pregnant. Anyhow when I was growing up, taught to not have promiscuous sex. So I include prostitution in that as being promiscuous. Anyhow, do think that people should be allowed to earn a living regardless of how they do it. Maja Helmi, H3artBreakKid, and 2 others liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:00 AM
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marriage also buying sex |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM
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Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C. Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand. Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers. Maja Helmi, cubix, and 6 others liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:54 AM) How often you get it for free? Not often, few times when I was in 20sI mean like spend no money at all. No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her. U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?" No car, no money, take bus to college. Yet this few girl ajak to their house. |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) got demand got supply even u find gf or wife to fxck, u need to shower them with love and money as wellbut buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD. better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women. not pay for sluts. Yveatel liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) got demand got supply buy = no commitment.but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD. better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women. not pay for sluts. wait til you attract some pyscho women... may even bring down your career |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM
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yes it is, should follow the course of nature, men see woman, grab and poke nia like cat and dog
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Oct 11 2023, 08:04 AM
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plain stupidity
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Oct 11 2023, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Oct 11 2023, 08:02 AM) Not often, few times when I was in 20s I oso get it for "free" before but then she wouldn't stop talking about getting married and having children. Told her already from the beginning I'm not interested in all that and she said it's ok, she just wants to be with me. Tipu.No car, no money, take bus to college. Yet this few girl ajak to their house. |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM) Oii... cannot like that. Now I have to preface it "honest living"In which case you will also ask, soldiers is it honest living!!!! Not everything is black and white ok. The thing is earn a living and not hurting others directly. In which case you also will think husband hurt their wife and family by visiting prostitute.... Is it that wrong to visit prostitute....? It is not exactly wrong...but also not very right. |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:11 AM
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Why pay for movies if I can download it online for free?
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Oct 11 2023, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM) Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C. Heard this story before.Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand. Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers. Old guy dying from terminal disease. His wife allow him to visit prostitute to fulfill his sex bucket list before he die. His bucket list: 1. Blowjob. 2. Doggy style. Kesian. fraudcommission and /k/R1M liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:16 AM
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its immoral if you have wife or attached to partner
its fair if you are single |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:06 AM) I oso get it for "free" before but then she wouldn't stop talking about getting married and having children. Told her already from the beginning I'm not interested in all that and she said it's ok, she just wants to be with me. Tipu. Biasalah, she want tied you know when you are a Gold Mine Mine is like FB, and somehow it spread among their girl lol I don’t have long or big batang, but superb with tongue and touching skills |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:17 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:17 AM
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I think for them its like buying food.
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Oct 11 2023, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:17 AM) Landwhale, airport runway, and average body also got laMe young that time semua sapu Maja Helmi liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:20 AM
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When you say immoral then you are already view it from religious angle. So you have the answer. kiasunkiasi liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:22 AM
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There is no such things as free sex. Kesian ppl tot they get free sex. Maja Helmi, fraudcommission, and 2 others liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:22 AM
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Sebelum langgan world's oldest job: Sangat immoral! Avoid! Semasa jumpa chicken ready for action: Maybe. Ramming time : Tis is fine. My morale is shooting high. Moral bagus. Paying up and post nut clarity: My rubber was intact right. Leganya. 5 mins later : Sangat immoral! Avoid! I am not corrupted for cumming 1x. H3artBreakKid, Yveatel, and 1 other liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:24 AM
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is it illegal?
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Oct 11 2023, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(jay @ Oct 11 2023, 08:16 AM) Will get bad karma no matter what because you are encouraging the girl to abuse her body, spreading HIV etc. She can have such a good body is due to her previous life good karma. Abusing it to earn money is bad. We buy the meat to eat also bad ler because encourages them to kill more animals. haih. This post has been edited by Accord2018: Oct 11 2023, 08:27 AM |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex Wrong, the loser is those who rape women, kid or own daughter. Maja Helmi, chaosneo, and 3 others liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:29 AM
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If any Malay girl ask 20k hantaran kawen to be your wife for her worn out pussy, hantam-ed by many men during her uni years before, yes that's an ouright immoral jaapers, Maja Helmi, and 2 others liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex many times, free things are the most expensive if you don't understand, its worth finding out this apparent contradiction kahjye and Maja Helmi liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:31 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:33 AM
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Yes it's immoral
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Oct 11 2023, 08:34 AM
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so.... Health delivery consider buy sex mou? chinti
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Oct 11 2023, 08:35 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:41 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:43 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:44 AM
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If you’re sex crazed then please dont seduce a poor innocent girl, court her, seduce her, sleep with her and then dump her. Just go find chicken and get it over with and save the innocents. Maja Helmi and Yveatel liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 08:46 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:48 AM
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>if no demand why supply?
how can it be made so that zero demand happens for paid pleasure? spouse had to be available to kangkang all the time anywhere? people had to be fully sated before going out from home? >a sex worker doesnt necessarily need pleasure, but they need money under the pressure of low demand, if they lower the fee; low enough to break marriages, why bother marrying? > yeah billion of sperm is harmed, lets throw few stones to another 2 people. make it billions plus 2 being harmed. |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(billy3336 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM) QUOTE(kons @ Oct 11 2023, 08:03 AM) if you find a psycho one, your fault already...if you find the right one, give your soul also worth it |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 08:06 AM) I oso get it for "free" before but then she wouldn't stop talking about getting married and having children. Told her already from the beginning I'm not interested in all that and she said it's ok, she just wants to be with me. Tipu. Tell her you are seeing someone else😂, sure get jealous and the fireworks go boom |
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Oct 11 2023, 08:54 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 08:57 AM
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I dont know TS. Why dont you tell us what gave you buyers remorse with your last purchase?
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Oct 11 2023, 09:01 AM
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You can do whatever you like. But being proud of your vice is another thing. That’s what I noticed among k-tards here. So happy to flaunt to everyone their “cheong” knowledge.
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Oct 11 2023, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM) How often you get it for free? true its fast track, cost effective, and u got to choose the best provider.I mean like spend no money at all. No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her. U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?" Maja Helmi and epsilon_chinwk86 liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 09:03 AM
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there are time where some people pay for instant noodle cup
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Oct 11 2023, 09:07 AM
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If you think it as a service than there is nothing wrong with it. Just like the massage service, you need to pay for it too. Edit: The statement above is applicable if the woman is not forced into pros, assuming she is willing to do it for work. This post has been edited by billylks: Oct 11 2023, 09:08 AM Maja Helmi liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM) How often you get it for free? ^ thisI mean like spend no money at all. No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her. U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?" most people don't realise all those opportunity costs e.g. time spend, and indirect costs that you listed above |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:09 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 09:11 AM
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Free ur mum
Random pipu sudden ask you " hey wan fuck ?" I bet u won't |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:14 AM
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Willing buyer wiling seller.
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Oct 11 2023, 09:15 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 09:16 AM
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Nothing is free.
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Oct 11 2023, 09:16 AM
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kalau beli tu immoral, macam mana orang yang main rogol? Itu kira merompak
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Oct 11 2023, 09:17 AM
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Of course it is. Otherwise why everybody so discreet about it, hiding the act
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Oct 11 2023, 09:22 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 08:51 AM) if you find a psycho one, your fault already... well, it's not the question of worth or notif you find the right one, give your soul also worth it :thumbsup: be it wife,gf, prostitute, all woman need money at some point except ons,but that only happens to handsome man |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:28 AM
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nobody gets free sex
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Oct 11 2023, 09:29 AM
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Immoral yes, based on religion.
And if it's adultery, then yes immoral. Otherwise, depends on law. If law don't allow, it's illegal. For the people saying loser because they can get for free, it's dumb. It's a transaction after all. People got money wan buy sex, it's their choice. It's like saying you can paint your own wall, only losers hire others to paint. And you can cook your own meals, only losers will pay for people to cook for them. |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) got demand got supply If you can find one without money or effort, that person is a slut as well.but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD. better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women. not pay for sluts. And if you're getting it free because others are putting in effort and money to have sex with you, then you're the prostitute. This post has been edited by Purpleheaven: Oct 11 2023, 09:33 AM Maja Helmi and kiasunkiasi liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 09:32 AM
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realistically it also reduces crime/rape case.
spur economy etc, some countries even gain tax from it still its immoral and all but its not all bad if the fella wanna f, with or without brothels still high chance he will f someone else i.e. ONS / casual sex |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:36 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 09:38 AM
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Oct 11 2023, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex During 2000s yes. After 2020. Your friend dreaming. Bring for dinner - money Bring for entertainment - money Bring to hotel - money Buy bags and jewelry - money If no money your friend might as well just rub his house wall as losers. |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:46 AM
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if you think about it, it saves families also wife duwan gib > husband curang piap coworker keep as mistress > divorce wife duwan gib > touch n go > husband happy, wife happy > no divorce Yveatel liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 09:48 AM
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If buy not immoral, sell also not immoral right?
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Oct 11 2023, 09:48 AM
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Buy - if get lucky. Good skill and experience
Free - mostly disappointing and bad skill |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:50 AM
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so you no need money to fetch your date go to shopping mall, buy something for her, belanja her makan and movie, and then go back to your/her house or hotel to pik piak?
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Oct 11 2023, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 11 2023, 09:32 AM) If you can find one without money or effort, that person is a slut as well. so you can make your own conclusion?And if you're getting it free because others are putting in effort and money to have sex with you, then you're the prostitute. so sleep with slut or not? pay wrong dont pay wrong apa lagi you mau find a life partner ba, worth it. |
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Oct 11 2023, 09:58 AM
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Any sex outside marriage is immoral
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Oct 11 2023, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 09:56 AM) so you can make your own conclusion? Huh? so sleep with slut or not? pay wrong dont pay wrong apa lagi you mau find a life partner ba, worth it. Who say pay is wrong and who say don't pay is wrong? You know how to read or not? Regardless, you have to pay for sex, unless you're the hooker. You auto assume slut, I also can auto assume if you find one that no need money/effort, that one also slut. Apa lagi tak faham? |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(EdEd @ Oct 11 2023, 09:32 AM) realistically it also reduces crime/rape case. And this begs another question for discussion. Which would you consider more immoral (under the premise that sex outside marriage is immoral)? People who engage in paid sex or people who engage in ONS/casual sex?spur economy etc, some countries even gain tax from it still its immoral and all but its not all bad if the fella wanna f, with or without brothels still high chance he will f someone else i.e. ONS / casual sex |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:19 AM
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Moral is not a question, Sex worker is oldest occupation for more than 2000 years.
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Oct 11 2023, 10:20 AM
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No, the act of killing baby it is.
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Oct 11 2023, 10:25 AM
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It's a business transaction. Essentially you're purchasing a service. How is that immoral? Willing buyer, willing seller.
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Oct 11 2023, 10:32 AM
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does dildo / fake pusseh counts?
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Oct 11 2023, 10:34 AM
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when you ask this question, it is confirm that you didnt enjoy having sex
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Oct 11 2023, 10:34 AM
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immoral standards are very subjective to each person
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Oct 11 2023, 09:41 AM) During 2000s yes. After 2020. Your friend dreaming. hahah.. lucky i am young during 2000s. free and ready supplyBring for dinner - money Bring for entertainment - money Bring to hotel - money Buy bags and jewelry - money If no money your friend might as well just rub his house wall as losers. |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:39 AM
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Questionable only if you are already in a monogamous relationship.
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Oct 11 2023, 10:39 AM
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you help them to sustain the family not pay sex
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Oct 11 2023, 10:40 AM
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nothing is questionable ....basically you spending money for your guilty pleasure...just like how you buy junk food
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Oct 11 2023, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(doppatroll @ Oct 11 2023, 10:40 AM) nothing is questionable ....basically you spending money for your guilty pleasure...just like how you buy junk food Well, sex is somehow a strangely taboo subject. I'm not saying I don't feel it, because I do, but if you think more, it's strange at how taboo it is. Sex is considered a vice, but stuff like taking drugs is too. But somehow, we censor sex in shows that have no issues depicting drug abuse. It's an issue that's deeply rooted in most of our cultures since a long time ago. |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:53 AM
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Pas kata jangan
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TS, do you have a gf, or any ex-gfs?
Have you had sex with any of them? If you have had sex with them, have you spent money on them? |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) My friend say ppl who buy sex are losers cos he can get them for free. Although once a while he lazy to get then just buy it for instant sex no such thing as free...the time taken to bring the girl out dating all that is the price...he also know how to say buy for instant d |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:55 AM
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When u morally right
But moral keeper take bribe from tauke And your moral teacher pay few hundreds after rape believer |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:56 AM
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There are pro and con
If you don't pay for it, you cant guarantee the quality of stock you'll be having, but the downside is most of the times you'll feel a sense of loneliness after ejaculation, cause you just drop-pant-cum-put-it-back-on, total disregard of human connections |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:58 AM
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not buy sex
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Oct 11 2023, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 09:50 AM) so you no need money to fetch your date go to shopping mall, buy something for her, belanja her makan and movie, and then go back to your/her house or hotel to pik piak? the cost is depending on the buyer choicesome people need to spend rm1000 for one shot, but if you meet the girl outside of sex work, you may get to bed her for rm200 |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:00 AM
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unless u got sugar mummy, u get sex n money
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Oct 11 2023, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Oct 11 2023, 10:55 AM) no such thing as free...the time taken to bring the girl out dating all that is the price...he also know how to say buy for instant d You just train your brain to be seeking dopamine effect right away, if you learn how to talk to girls, you learn how to have stronger inner belief and ultimately, sex is just the prize |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:02 AM
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first of all have u try it?
then how much sex u need? r u satisfy only with ur gf/wife? if no but dunwan string attached - agong head make ur didi head wonder lo |
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM) Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C. Correct.Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand. Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers. Actually = Free one = the most expensive one. True veteran will know this. kiasunkiasi liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 11:08 AM
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you buy also have to worry about HIV , STDs .... if unlucky condom pecah etc... suffer 1 lifetime.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM) How often you get it for free? "The most expensive sex is free sex"I mean like spend no money at all. No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her. U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?" |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:21 AM
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Some ktard claim
Got girl pickup him go hotel piap then send him back |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:22 AM
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Though it us illegal if sex without paying
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Oct 11 2023, 11:23 AM
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Looks like a lot ktard kena kidnap by free sex from friends of benefit
cerita lah sikit, how they culik u guys? by threaten you sponsor for LV bag after sek? or asking you different poses when seksing? |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:25 AM
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is it immoral to Sell sex? :S
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It is also immoral to fuck kids. Yet we have a lot of religious leaders that do that all the time.
Taking bribes is wrong. Yet we have govt browntards doing it all the time. Making the best out of ourselves and not relying on govt for support is the right thing. Yet majority of the ppl don't do that. |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:48 AM
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lol....u think sex is ever free?
always oso got T&C |
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Oct 11 2023, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 11 2023, 07:48 AM) I got friends who constantly buying since we were studying. bullshit1. Tak da girl friend 2. Outlook not confident, fatty boom boom. Of course they are craving for love story as well, but they just can't land any girls. there are guys who have butter face and short still able to sleep with hotter girls without have to pay (directly) |
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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM) Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that. as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feideiDiscuss. we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex |
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 03:00 PM) as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei gua tatau, gua virgin browe pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex Rusty Nail liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 03:04 PM
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actually sex is supposed to be FREE.
if you know what sex is.... haha |
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Oct 11 2023, 07:54 AM) How often you get it for free? dating on romantic dinner already cost u more than 1 shot in the market,.. economically speaking,..I mean like spend no money at all. No date, no gifts, no flashy car or expensive clothes or whatever to impress her. U just ride up on your poorfag cheapo bicycle, wearing your poorfag old clothes and she ask, "hey wanna fuck?" |
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 03:00 PM) as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei and for the chick to leave, instead of sticking to you after the hump we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex |
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suka sama suka
laki batang syok popuam lubang syok popuam ada wang 1 stone 3 birds yo |
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Oct 11 2023, 03:14 PM
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Only with paid u can have experienced all the JAV nasty stuff and fantasy
Bet u wont get it with ur wife/gf mostly deadfish Of coz if u got it bonus for you....but hey paid oso u gt to tried so many type of sihams... |
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Oct 11 2023, 03:14 PM
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Better than tuai.
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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM) Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that. If it is a business, there is nothing immoral about the transaction. Having said that people who have to sell/buy sex, I see them as weaklings. It is possible to have sex without paying and if they have to pay for it, yeah, pity.Discuss. |
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Oct 11 2023, 03:22 PM
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If u wanna get laid without paying aka get a gf...is not hard if u not picky....many landwhale & nasty karen is available whether its in your appetite anot
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Oct 11 2023, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(djlake @ Oct 11 2023, 03:18 PM) If it is a business, there is nothing immoral about the transaction. Having said that people who have to sell/buy sex, I see them as weaklings. It is possible to have sex without paying and if they have to pay for it, yeah, pity. How to have sex without paying? U strip naked n girl said lets fuck? |
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Oct 11 2023, 03:24 PM
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Oct 11 2023, 03:24 PM
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Actually the best thing about buying sex is when you pay the whore. She just let you used her in exchange for a little money. Money that I would not remember wasting anyway.
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Oct 11 2023, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 02:55 PM) bullshit haiya dont general it la, you have friends can get laid so im happy with your butter face friends.there are guys who have butter face and short still able to sleep with hotter girls without have to pay (directly) But my friends betul betul tak da girl friend experience in his 30s, how can help? |
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Oct 11 2023, 03:51 PM
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Money cant buy experience weh
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Longest surviving industry. There is a reason why it exist since day 1 until now. zamans98 liked this post
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I dun buy something that is not really well spend stuff.
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Oct 11 2023, 04:39 PM
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Oct 11 2023, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 11 2023, 03:28 PM) haiya dont general it la, you have friends can get laid so im happy with your butter face friends. that means he's low self esteem to begin withBut my friends betul betul tak da girl friend experience in his 30s, how can help? if the guy need to use money to get sex, fundamentally there's blockage with his communication and upbringing |
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Oct 11 2023, 04:48 PM
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Oct 11 2023, 04:51 PM
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Oct 11 2023, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(halglory @ Oct 11 2023, 03:00 PM) as I understand from some master cheongster like joek2feidei we pay not for sex but for the gfe & service...i heard some sifu said before if the girl no service, how pretty also he will lembik so ultimately...it's for the GF experience...not sex QUOTE(JoeK @ Oct 11 2023, 03:04 PM) ayam tatau, ayam virgin © |
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 04:48 PM) Ive had couple of divorced milf and 30s single women see, it's not free for you too...they have their own place, they will agree for me to come over but sometimes its too far i lazy go also too far cause you lazy (your time cost), time spend are travelling expenses are your costs in case you went nothing is free |
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Use money to buy time, and use time to get more money
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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Oct 11 2023, 07:17 PM) not necessarilythere are a lot of semi wealthy men still unable to get girls consistently, just because a person knows how to make money doesn't mean he must be good with social or networking smallcrab liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 11 2023, 09:12 PM) I'm curious. Why lazy go? What other stuff u need to do before and after fucking that made u hesitate? lack of chemistryor you can say my novelty seeking is quite strong during free time, i will rather do some studying the thing is, most of my first (few) dates cost can be low it shouldnt be that expensive or trying hard to impress the girl that myself might feel anxious, because the fact i put more investment cost |
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Not free when you re paying with your time
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It's a service. So pay for it, unless if u get free service.
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Oct 11 2023, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) got demand got supply But sluts are tasty. Some of us here love sluts.but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD. better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women. not pay for sluts. IE: i can fuck her both ways anal and front and she squirt like crazy after 1 hour of hardcore banging. Totally diff from making love with spouse or gf. I can abuse her i can spit in her mouth … u get the idea. And to those who think they can date all they want and find all the woman they want..wait till u meet a serial fucker. Who wants to fuck 4 diff girls a day and have all the resources to do that. THEN WE PAY AFTER COURTING SOMEONE WIFE AND MILF… an average RED CARD HOOKER FUCKS 8 to 12 guys a day. I knew some guys who fucks 4 to 5 girls a days . Ya pornstar- but heck obssesion / drugs are normal when ur rich and bored. This post has been edited by badmilk: Oct 11 2023, 09:35 PM |
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Whats the going rate for these professional girls nowadys?
RM400 can get? Asking for research purposes. |
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if u nt cheongster u will have diff thoughts la ...just to let u know most cheongsters are married / got gf also
they are not ugly or poor ....like i said they are seeking for something that is missing from their partner....and yet they can get it instantly just by paying...wat they get is experience and fantasy...i dont deny men can be easily bored with their partner so no ned generalise cheongster is ugly or no money or watever....it comes from all walks of life doctor/lawyer/lecturer/ uni youngster /bosses/etc |
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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM) Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that. buying sex is just better in alot of waysDiscuss. the syndicate behind it that is doing alot of harm you don't get it cos u not life experience enough yet |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:11 PM
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I don’t know why prostitution is not legal. It should be legal. Having sex is nothing to be ashamed and embarrassed about it. We are breathing today is because of sex. Nature is what is it today also because of sex. Even if money is involved I still don’t understand what is the problem. You give something out because you are getting something in return whether that something is tangible or intangible. Legalise prostitution is the correct path potatolala liked this post
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 11:01 AM) You just train your brain to be seeking dopamine effect right away, if you learn how to talk to girls, you learn how to have stronger inner belief and ultimately, sex is just the prize got any specific tip? i have no issues talking to girls but i believe there's a better way? |
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QUOTE(OrientalGopi @ Oct 11 2023, 10:06 PM) if u nt cheongster u will have diff thoughts la ...just to let u know most cheongsters are married / got gf also When I was married, I also cheong after wife start to ration sex. U feel less guilty cheong compared to having a mistress. Also less potential for complications amd drama.they are not ugly or poor ....like i said they are seeking for something that is missing from their partner....and yet they can get it instantly just by paying...wat they get is experience and fantasy...i dont deny men can be easily bored with their partner so no ned generalise cheongster is ugly or no money or watever....it comes from all walks of life doctor/lawyer/lecturer/ uni youngster /bosses/etc After I divorce, start dating girls and quit cheong. Im in the camp of "Free" sex is better than cheong. Free is in quotes coz of course not totally free. There are costs to dating, but its not so costly with the right girl. Also having company for dinner or movie is pleasurable on its own. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Oct 11 2023, 10:31 PM |
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Oct 11 2023, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 11 2023, 07:45 AM) got demand got supply Nothing is free. It's either pay for sex or spend money on girl until she give you sex. Both needs money. If you thinking of spending money only on yourself can get free sex, if you not handsome enough then you slow slow wait.but buying sex just means you aren't even attractive enough to have sex without paying and that is SAD. better spend money work on yourself, to attract some good women. not pay for sluts. |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(potatolala @ Oct 11 2023, 10:11 PM) I don’t know why prostitution is not legal. Legal prostitution means decrease of commercial needs ie marriage counsellor, this is not necessarily good for economicsIt should be legal. Having sex is nothing to be ashamed and embarrassed about it. We are breathing today is because of sex. Nature is what is it today also because of sex. Even if money is involved I still don’t understand what is the problem. You give something out because you are getting something in return whether that something is tangible or intangible. Legalise prostitution is the correct path |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Oct 11 2023, 09:49 PM) If you go to social eventthose who holds the glass in front of their chest or just playing their phone, will not outcompete those who possibly have lower income but charismatic and unfazed initiation ability the moment when someone opens their mouth you can tell how confident they're and their ability to sustain that spotlight effect this kind of ability, cannot be bought by just paying for sex |
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Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM
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personally, i dont condemn paying for sex. supply & demand, ntgh's wrong, as long as u dun so stupid & get attached. however, i hav problem wit guys who pay for sex, & then hail themself of some kind of cheongstsr player wit high body count. no, that's not how the real hame is played. those that u paid for doesn't count in your body count. call me old fashioned, i com from the time b4 social media was such a hit, b4 tinder. i com from the good old times of meeting girls in the bar, ONS from clubbing, having fwb. all these need skills, & u're aren't getting any if u din got no game. -mystery- liked this post
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Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM
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Immoral or not, this is much much much better than rape or self farming.
Pls, and I really mean pls, don't try to acah holy by saying this kind of acts are immoral but go rape or harvest at the back. What an animal |
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Oct 12 2023, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 11 2023, 08:01 AM) Free one is not really free and comes with a lot of restrictions and hidden T&C. Good thing doesn't come free.Paid ones can do so many thing, all your fantasies, just confirm before hand. Plot twist, free ones sometimes also get paid by others and do all the things they wouldn't do for their free customers. STD is actually more prevalent among casual sex |
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Oct 12 2023, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM) personally, i dont condemn paying for sex. Time has changed bosssupply & demand, ntgh's wrong, as long as u dun so stupid & get attached. however, i hav problem wit guys who pay for sex, & then hail themself of some kind of cheongstsr player wit high body count. no, that's not how the real hame is played. those that u paid for doesn't count in your body count. call me old fashioned, i com from the time b4 social media was such a hit, b4 tinder. i com from the good old times of meeting girls in the bar, ONS from clubbing, having fwb. all these need skills, & u're aren't getting any if u din got no game. Back in those day even thaimoi at hardyai also seduce us back then , stay there for free, temporary gf/bf, only condition if u go there only can sleep with her no other, if she find out, fireworks Half of passport was just full of Tai border chop lol |
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Oct 12 2023, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Oct 12 2023, 12:25 AM) Time has changed boss boys nowadays are weak & has no game.Back in those day even thaimoi at hardyai also seduce us back then , stay there for free, temporary gf/bf, only condition if u go there only can sleep with her no other, if she find out, fireworks Half of passport was just full of Tai border chop lol from experience, picking up girls at bar develops your social skills wit women, while being in relationship (or fwb) develop your sexual skills. just paying for sex doesn't help develop any skills. dun just take my word for it, it's from 1 of my fwb bck then. she said some of her worst encounters are not virgin or newbies, rather those so called "cheongstar". we theorized that it might be bcoz these guys doesn't really know how to please women sexually, & more focus on his own pleasures. cuz when they pay for prostitute, prostitute pretend they r enjoying, fake orgasm, so he though he's doing everything right when it's not. |
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Oct 12 2023, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(alexandersuk @ Oct 11 2023, 07:42 AM) Do you think people who need to spend money for sex have questionable moral value? Although I know that we have to destigmatize people who work in sex industry, I don't get it why people need to spend money for that. How izit different thsn getting a wife? You don't have to spend money? The ring, the gifts, the dinner,Discuss. |
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Oct 12 2023, 01:10 AM
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A prostitute is like any other woman They all trade somethin' for sex and they do it well. |
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 11 2023, 11:53 PM) If you go to social event B40 vs T20those who holds the glass in front of their chest or just playing their phone, will not outcompete those who possibly have lower income but charismatic and unfazed initiation ability the moment when someone opens their mouth you can tell how confident they're and their ability to sustain that spotlight effect this kind of ability, cannot be bought by just paying for sex |
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Oct 12 2023, 01:33 AM
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Oct 12 2023, 01:40 AM
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Oct 12 2023, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 11 2023, 09:28 PM) But sluts are tasty. Some of us here love sluts. So why you can't have that kind of sex with your significant others. I know people who do.IE: i can fuck her both ways anal and front and she squirt like crazy after 1 hour of hardcore banging. Totally diff from making love with spouse or gf. I can abuse her i can spit in her mouth … u get the idea. And to those who think they can date all they want and find all the woman they want..wait till u meet a serial fucker. Who wants to fuck 4 diff girls a day and have all the resources to do that. THEN WE PAY AFTER COURTING SOMEONE WIFE AND MILF… an average RED CARD HOOKER FUCKS 8 to 12 guys a day. I knew some guys who fucks 4 to 5 girls a days . Ya pornstar- but heck obssesion / drugs are normal when ur rich and bored. Start leveling up your game in the bedroom Those who sleep for body count purpose and to flex, good luck to them. The emptiness of the soul screams by the day |
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Oct 12 2023, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 12 2023, 02:16 AM) Those who sleep for body count purpose and to flex, good luck to them. The emptiness of the soul screams by the day some males put their base primal animal instincts = reproduce as much as possible the top priority in their lifesome males still stuck at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs base level, hope they can move on some males have other priorities instead, to each of their own this thread is seeking a conclusive social conformity. good luck~ gashout liked this post
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Oct 12 2023, 03:41 AM
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nope..if you are single totally fine..as long you dont force urself on the girl..
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Oct 12 2023, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Oct 12 2023, 02:16 AM) So why you can't have that kind of sex with your significant others. I know people who do. More like trophies - and variety- you can have ur opinion but there many out there hunting .Start leveling up your game in the bedroom Those who sleep for body count purpose and to flex, good luck to them. The emptiness of the soul screams by the day Its fun . Lol. To each its own kan. Fuck away guys - lets spread the seed everywhere. Nature wants us too. |
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM) Immoral or not, this is much much much better than rape or self farming. Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing.Pls, and I really mean pls, don't try to acah holy by saying this kind of acts are immoral but go rape or harvest at the back. What an animal |
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 09:42 AM) Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing. Huh? Your analogy damn terbalik. You equate rape to robbers. Rape get free sex, robbers get free resources. Then how is prostitution equivalent to giving robbers free money? Legalization of prostitution just mean another source of sex in exchange for money. But u make it sound like it's free. Anyway, I suspect a significant portion of rape and tuai is not because of the lack of legalized prostitution. There are other hurdles between them and sex. |
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Oct 12 2023, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 09:42 AM) Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing. Because they need something to blame for them to feel better when they commit crimes. It’s always the fault of everyone except themselves.Lack of self control and full of lust, then blame women attire when they commit rape. It speaks volume about their mentality |
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Similar as fixing your car, car broken then either self repair if you know how to or send to workshop for repair. You gatal horny either self service or pay some girl whose offering service to fulfill your horniness. No wrong or right, as long as you play safe of course... wiecavef and Purpleheaven liked this post
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Wise man once said, you are not paying them to have sex. You are paying them to leave afterwards. Some people wanted to have this service for peace of mind and little to none repercussions afterwards. kiasunkiasi liked this post
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Oct 12 2023, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Oct 11 2023, 11:59 PM) personally, i dont condemn paying for sex. Hookers included in lay count?supply & demand, ntgh's wrong, as long as u dun so stupid & get attached. however, i hav problem wit guys who pay for sex, & then hail themself of some kind of cheongstsr player wit high body count. no, that's not how the real hame is played. those that u paid for doesn't count in your body count. call me old fashioned, i com from the time b4 social media was such a hit, b4 tinder. i com from the good old times of meeting girls in the bar, ONS from clubbing, having fwb. all these need skills, & u're aren't getting any if u din got no game. what the hell is that, delusional |
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Oct 12 2023, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(fraudcommission @ Oct 12 2023, 03:02 AM) some males put their base primal animal instincts = reproduce as much as possible the top priority in their life the ability to ejaculate and evacuate is also a skillsome males still stuck at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs base level, hope they can move on some males have other priorities instead, to each of their own this thread is seeking a conclusive social conformity. good luck~ because it requires time and commitment to hone your sword to hunt |
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Oct 12 2023, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 09:50 AM) Huh? Your analogy damn terbalik. I am just implying the argument that most prostitute dwellers that justified prostitution would prevent rapes and incests by saying giving money out will prevent robberies and thefts. Its like giving in to some kind of exploits to reduce crimes from happening. Things just wouldn't work that way.You equate rape to robbers. Rape get free sex, robbers get free resources. Then how is prostitution equivalent to giving robbers free money? Legalization of prostitution just mean another source of sex in exchange for money. But u make it sound like it's free. Anyway, I suspect a significant portion of rape and tuai is not because of the lack of legalized prostitution. There are other hurdles between them and sex. Nobody is saying sex should be free - as women loses if they gave it out without commitment but men lose as much if not more if they commit to the wrong women. Nevertheless, when transaction of money for sex (aka prostitution) are involved, it created social problems which blames men as the perpetrator higher than the other gender as the percentage of men paying for sex are way way way higher than women. QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 12 2023, 10:02 AM) Because they need something to blame for them to feel better when they commit crimes. It’s always the fault of everyone except themselves. What are you implying? That rapists blame the lack of prostitution for raping and tuai-ing? Lack of self control and full of lust, then blame women attire when they commit rape. It speaks volume about their mentality Or because women attire? Anyhow, that still won't explain how prostitution will reduce sexual violence. |
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Oct 12 2023, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Oct 12 2023, 09:35 AM) More like trophies - and variety- you can have ur opinion but there many out there hunting . Yes, a few men are like this.Its fun . Lol. To each its own kan. Fuck away guys - lets spread the seed everywhere. Nature wants us too. Planting seeds everywhere, kids grow up without a father, mother becomes prostitutes to make a living. and the cycle continue... |
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 09:42 AM) Why loser simps always use rape or tuai just to justify prostitution? Its like saying robbery happens because money is not given to these robbers when all they need is actually some effort on their part. To get laid, all you need is to understand women, just like needing to upgrade and work your asses off if you need money instead of robbing. robbery is taking something from another party using force without consentprostitution usually willing buyer willing seller, just set aside human trafficking here as it's another subject |
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Oct 12 2023, 10:59 AM) robbery is taking something from another party using force without consent Why cherry-pick some terms to try justify the differences? What was being said was about giving in something to prevent something else from happening. Pretty sure rape is also the similar when it comes to force and consent for the perpetrator to attain dunno whatever that are in their minds (which ain't money). prostitution usually willing buyer willing seller, just set aside human trafficking here as it's another subject Since prostitution rings are linked to human trafficking - there are no deception, force or rape involved before reaching the brothel for willing buyer seller part? That is what prostitute dwellers justify themselves to make themselves feel less guilty. Regarding consent related, escorts are a different story as they likely do that out of their own will but again, but that is another issue that also won't bring down sexual crimes against women as claimed by prostitute dwellers. Whether it is immoral or not is totally out of question, but to claim that it brings down sexual crime rates is totally untrue, immoral and hypocritical. Still I don't think people are condemning, but highlighting that by doing so is indeed immoral, as this degrades men due to exploitation of women. |
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 10:38 AM) I am just implying the argument that most prostitute dwellers that justified prostitution would prevent rapes and incests by saying giving money out will prevent robberies and thefts. Its like giving in to some kind of exploits to reduce crimes from happening. Things just wouldn't work that way. I'm just saying you call giving out free money as an analogy is flawed. A correct parallel would be to say if jobs with sufficient earnings for proper living conditions are there for the masses, people would not resort to robbery. I'm not sure if it will solves those problems or not, but I reckon it would reduce it. Prostitution still involves equivalent exchange, while giving free money doesn't. That's why the correct parallel would be proper jobs as jobs is also about equivalent exchange. But then there's the argument that jobs are scarce, or that jobs that are available aren't enough.Nobody is saying sex should be free - as women loses if they gave it out without commitment but men lose as much if not more if they commit to the wrong women. Nevertheless, when transaction of money for sex (aka prostitution) are involved, it created social problems which blames men as the perpetrator higher than the other gender as the percentage of men paying for sex are way way way higher than women. |
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Oct 12 2023, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Oct 12 2023, 11:20 AM) Why cherry-pick some terms to try justify the differences? What was being said was about giving in something to prevent something else from happening. Pretty sure rape is also the similar when it comes to force and consent for the perpetrator to attain dunno whatever that are in their minds (which ain't money). You're just conflating at this point. The talk about legalising prostitution is under the premise that it's done properly. But you're just diverting to human trafficking and other crimes. Since prostitution rings are linked to human trafficking - there are no deception, force or rape involved before reaching the brothel for willing buyer seller part? That is what prostitute dwellers justify themselves to make themselves feel less guilty. Regarding consent related, escorts are a different story as they likely do that out of their own will but again, but that is another issue that also won't bring down sexual crimes against women as claimed by prostitute dwellers. Whether it is immoral or not is totally out of question, but to claim that it brings down sexual crime rates is totally untrue, immoral and hypocritical. Still I don't think people are condemning, but highlighting that by doing so is indeed immoral, as this degrades men due to exploitation of women. And somehow "whether it's immoral or not is out of the question", but just theorising that legalized prostitution can bring down sexual crime rates is immoral and hypocritical? While I'm unsure if it will bring down or not, I understand the reasoning behind it. Personally, I don't think it will help to a significant level, especially not in Malaysia because quite a number of sexual assaults are situations won't be alleviated by the presence of legal prostitutes. |
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Oct 12 2023, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 12 2023, 10:23 AM) the ability to ejaculate and evacuate is also a skill Your insistence on justifying your way of thinking seems somewhat miserable; it exposes insecurity. because it requires time and commitment to hone your sword to hunt You might still be stuck at the basic level of needs, or you might have already achieved self-actualisation (a life goal akin to honing your sword or something similar). The fact that you need to keep pushing your 'guruness' onto others suggests the former. |
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Oct 12 2023, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(fraudcommission @ Oct 12 2023, 01:41 PM) Your insistence on justifying your way of thinking seems somewhat miserable; it exposes insecurity. If one can make sales, why cant a person get layYou might still be stuck at the basic level of needs, or you might have already achieved self-actualisation (a life goal akin to honing your sword or something similar). The fact that you need to keep pushing your 'guruness' onto others suggests the former. So making money is not basic necessity? Lol |
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 12:57 PM) Hahahaha, what's the point in getting pressed over people's body count?don't even need to talk about want to count hookers or not, people can just straight up lie about it. Whose gonna check? you can tell whether someone is lying or not by their inflection of tonality its hard to fake |
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 12 2023, 06:37 AM) muka pecah + stupid assumption on wimmin + tonality like "how hard it was to make them kangkang"can conlanfirm surely this guy paid for piap, also, poorfag even pay for piap also had it hard to piap properly. |
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Oct 12 2023, 02:42 PM) muka pecah + stupid assumption on wimmin + tonality like "how hard it was to make them kangkang" If the guy think girl owes him sexcan conlanfirm surely this guy paid for piap, also, poorfag even pay for piap also had it hard to piap properly. of course he wouldnt get it lah the main reason why guys pay for sex (i think) they don't want to go thru rejection ma If they view rejection as painful, of course it will be painful I get rejected too many times at this point im almost gone out with 276+ females |
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 12:44 PM) I'm just saying you call giving out free money as an analogy is flawed. A correct parallel would be to say if jobs with sufficient earnings for proper living conditions are there for the masses, people would not resort to robbery. I'm not sure if it will solves those problems or not, but I reckon it would reduce it. Prostitution still involves equivalent exchange, while giving free money doesn't. That's why the correct parallel would be proper jobs as jobs is also about equivalent exchange. But then there's the argument that jobs are scarce, or that jobs that are available aren't enough. The "I give you money now, so need not rob" analogy merely a reference of exchange to attain a desired outcome - hence exchanges be it physical, sexual, monetary or circumstances applies despite the differences of an exchange. To blanketly claim a field that is mostly a product of crime and exploitation (i.e prostitution) to drastically reduce incest and rape cases is totally nonsense. QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 12 2023, 12:55 PM) You're just conflating at this point. The talk about legalising prostitution is under the premise that it's done properly. But you're just diverting to human trafficking and other crimes. Conflating in solid points is still better than cherry-picking on what-if points. Facts on relation between prostitution and human trafficking cannot be negated with feelings alone. While it is still immoral regardless of the legality, most pro-prostitution refused to acknowledge that legalizing prostitution will not reduce crime and exploitation against women, far less ceasing to exist. The only benefit would be for crime syndicates to legalize their businesses and expand their trafficking syndicates which translate to abuse of more women, and more fun for subscribers to be less careful about protection (which is a dream for raw goers), that's it. And somehow "whether it's immoral or not is out of the question", but just theorizing that legalized prostitution can bring down sexual crime rates is immoral and hypocritical? While I'm unsure if it will bring down or not, I understand the reasoning behind it. Personally, I don't think it will help to a significant level, especially not in Malaysia because quite a number of sexual assaults are situations won't be alleviated by the presence of legal prostitutes. Hence, how is it not hypocritical for prostitute dwellers to go for prostitution services, claim such activity will reduce sexual crimes against women, when it is built on crime? |
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Oct 12 2023, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Oct 12 2023, 07:06 AM) If the guy think girl owes him sex Too weak level liao liddat.of course he wouldnt get it lah the main reason why guys pay for sex (i think) they don't want to go thru rejection ma If they view rejection as painful, of course it will be painful I get rejected too many times at this point im almost gone out with 276+ females Imagine that's x10 harder for a Chinese Guy to get an Amoi. Drive father's S Class 20 years ago to pickup amoi, kena comment why not godcar vios dugong. Bring go Seremban Charcoal Crab and Port Dickson, say why no bring her to Sungei Wang, Berjaya Time Square, Starhill, wadafak. Back then, takde groupon. Wanna go hotel eat buffet expensive shit. Walau... But now, everything is money money money. (Money now is your difficulty reduction perishable item. Use 10 x 100 ringgit, difficulty reduces by 10%. Use 100 of the notes, difficulty no where existing liao) Even till today I hunt people's wife also will have to get through many rejections. Some of them is even at the point you sudah thorlong, teasing, this and that, but then never get to the final stage which is bring them into one of my friend's available Airbnb, then proceed with taking off everything and start cucuke. But at the same time, even if you dun get rejections, the chances of pancut is always a variable. Imagine you hunt 100 milfs, 50 success to bed, but maybe 40 out of that 50 got some smelly meowmeow, disfigured abdominal appearance due to concieving and giving birth, and all sort of problem issues here n there. If able to cucuke inside 10 sudah counted very very very lucky liao. And this is like you're playing baccarat. Life is all about gambling your chances, wisely. -mystery- liked this post
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Oct 13 2023, 10:05 AM
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bosses who paid salary also losers...real men get slaves to work for free
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Oct 22 2023, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Oct 12 2023, 03:43 PM) Too weak level liao liddat. U have hunt white milfs? Easy for Chinese guys go after angmoh women in UK?Imagine that's x10 harder for a Chinese Guy to get an Amoi. Drive father's S Class 20 years ago to pickup amoi, kena comment why not godcar vios dugong. Bring go Seremban Charcoal Crab and Port Dickson, say why no bring her to Sungei Wang, Berjaya Time Square, Starhill, wadafak. Back then, takde groupon. Wanna go hotel eat buffet expensive shit. Walau... But now, everything is money money money. (Money now is your difficulty reduction perishable item. Use 10 x 100 ringgit, difficulty reduces by 10%. Use 100 of the notes, difficulty no where existing liao) Even till today I hunt people's wife also will have to get through many rejections. Some of them is even at the point you sudah thorlong, teasing, this and that, but then never get to the final stage which is bring them into one of my friend's available Airbnb, then proceed with taking off everything and start cucuke. But at the same time, even if you dun get rejections, the chances of pancut is always a variable. Imagine you hunt 100 milfs, 50 success to bed, but maybe 40 out of that 50 got some smelly meowmeow, disfigured abdominal appearance due to concieving and giving birth, and all sort of problem issues here n there. If able to cucuke inside 10 sudah counted very very very lucky liao. And this is like you're playing baccarat. Life is all about gambling your chances, wisely. |
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Oct 22 2023, 11:32 AM
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imagine u wan eat burger, u go mcd buy coz convenience and u no need cook .
same as amoi or aboi, u no need go through the hassle of courtship, wear handsome handsome, buy flower iPhones etc - just use money settle. so not immoral at all as long as counterpart willing offer. on top of that, even u cook, it can be taste sucks. same as ur own effort amoi, it can be fugly. This post has been edited by eldenring: Oct 22 2023, 11:33 AM |
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Oct 22 2023, 11:33 AM
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Ask the seller whether it is immoral to sell sex.
Willing buyer. Wiling seller. Get approval from PASial for "halal" certification. |
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Oct 22 2023, 11:34 AM
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They don’t call it oldest profession in the world for no reason…
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Oct 22 2023, 11:37 AM
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Those who say wives and girlfriends are free, no they are not.
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Oct 22 2023, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(Le Don @ Oct 22 2023, 03:26 AM) Wont say easy, but not super hard either. I would say that the challenges falls at the part like:1. They got a fakaped husband, or a wreck of a kind (well, its often the latter. Drunkard, gambler, lazy mofo, crazy wife hitter, etc) 2. The milf herself is a mess. You can't realize it from first sight since most of them are either dress well, sloppily, like a whore, or not. You gotta know to know. 3. Special kind, think about sick, mess in the head, issue here there, or literally a poison to the man. Of course, there's always an exception here and there. But I'll always tell myself, "Don't be desperate, or the angmoh will catch hint of your desperation and use that to fish you and not otherwise." If asian girl is more to "malu la, tak mau la, takut la, what if..." then the angmoh girl is more to "you wanna pancut inside? Tell me the truth, I can see that on your face, hmm... we can make a deal out of this... Why not, given that you..." My experience so far is few (I secretly fancy blondies so the angmoh that I always go blondie milf), and failure is unaccountable. But on the bed, you can expect a wilder wimmin compared to an Asian one that's more to kena piap and less resistance. |
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Oct 22 2023, 04:18 AM) When one is already at that level, its always ended up at:I do, kolek. You do, all wrong. Me fakap, you wrong. You fakap, coz never listen to me when I say you wrong. Even if he Premature pancut, its coz that 18 years old amoi birgin sudah kena piap and longgar, not because his own is a toothpick and muka pecah. |
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