Similar as fixing your car, car broken then either self repair if you know how to or send to workshop for repair. You gatal horny either self service or pay some girl whose offering service to fulfill your horniness. No wrong or right, as long as you play safe of course...

Wise man once said, you are not paying them to have sex. You are paying them to leave afterwards.

Some people wanted to have this service for peace of mind and little to none repercussions afterwards.

Hookers included in lay count?
what the hell is that, delusional

the ability to ejaculate and evacuate is also a skill
because it requires time and commitment to hone your sword to hunt

This is what mgtow or blackpiller says

I am just implying the argument that most prostitute dwellers that justified prostitution would prevent rapes and incests by saying giving money out will prevent robberies and thefts. Its like giving in to some kind of exploits to reduce crimes from happening. Things just wouldn't work that way.

Nobody is saying sex should be free - as women loses if they gave it out without commitment but men lose as much if not more if they commit to the wrong women. Nevertheless, when transaction of money for sex (aka prostitution) are involved, it created social problems which blames men as the perpetrator higher than the other gender as the percentage of men paying for sex are way way way higher than women.

What are you implying? That rapists blame the lack of prostitution for raping and tuai-ing?

Or because women attire?

Anyhow, that still won't explain how prostitution will reduce sexual violence.

Yes, a few men are like this.

Planting seeds everywhere, kids grow up without a father, mother becomes prostitutes to make a living.

and the cycle continue...

robbery is taking something from another party using force without consent
prostitution usually willing buyer willing seller, just set aside human trafficking here as it's another subject

Why cherry-pick some terms to try justify the differences? What was being said was about giving in something to prevent something else from happening. Pretty sure rape is also the similar when it comes to force and consent for the perpetrator to attain dunno whatever that are in their minds (which ain't money).

Since prostitution rings are linked to human trafficking - there are no deception, force or rape involved before reaching the brothel for willing buyer seller part? That is what prostitute dwellers justify themselves to make themselves feel less guilty.

Regarding consent related, escorts are a different story as they likely do that out of their own will but again, but that is another issue that also won't bring down sexual crimes against women as claimed by prostitute dwellers.

Whether it is immoral or not is totally out of question, but to claim that it brings down sexual crime rates is totally untrue, immoral and hypocritical. Still I don't think people are condemning, but highlighting that by doing so is indeed immoral, as this degrades men due to exploitation of women.

I'm just saying you call giving out free money as an analogy is flawed. A correct parallel would be to say if jobs with sufficient earnings for proper living conditions are there for the masses, people would not resort to robbery. I'm not sure if it will solves those problems or not, but I reckon it would reduce it. Prostitution still involves equivalent exchange, while giving free money doesn't. That's why the correct parallel would be proper jobs as jobs is also about equivalent exchange. But then there's the argument that jobs are scarce, or that jobs that are available aren't enough.

You're just conflating at this point. The talk about legalising prostitution is under the premise that it's done properly. But you're just diverting to human trafficking and other crimes.

And somehow "whether it's immoral or not is out of the question", but just theorising that legalized prostitution can bring down sexual crime rates is immoral and hypocritical? While I'm unsure if it will bring down or not, I understand the reasoning behind it. Personally, I don't think it will help to a significant level, especially not in Malaysia because quite a number of sexual assaults are situations won't be alleviated by the presence of legal prostitutes.

Hahahaha, what's the point in getting pressed over people's body count?don't even need to talk about want to count hookers or not, people can just straight up lie about it. Whose gonna check?

Your insistence on justifying your way of thinking seems somewhat miserable; it exposes insecurity.
You might still be stuck at the basic level of needs, or you might have already achieved self-actualisation (a life goal akin to honing your sword or something similar).

The fact that you need to keep pushing your 'guruness' onto others suggests the former.

If one can make sales, why cant a person get lay
So making money is not basic necessity? Lol

you can tell whether someone is lying or not by their inflection of tonality its hard to fake

muka pecah + stupid assumption on wimmin + tonality like "how hard it was to make them kangkang"

can conlanfirm surely this guy paid for piap, also, poorfag even pay for piap also had it hard to piap properly.

If the guy think girl owes him sex
of course he wouldnt get it lah
the main reason why guys pay for sex (i think)
they don't want to go thru rejection ma
If they view rejection as painful, of course it will be painful
I get rejected too many times at this point im almost gone out with 276+ females

The "I give you money now, so need not rob" analogy merely a reference of exchange to attain a desired outcome - hence exchanges be it physical, sexual, monetary or circumstances applies despite the differences of an exchange.

To blanketly claim a field that is mostly a product of crime and exploitation (i.e prostitution) to drastically reduce incest and rape cases is totally nonsense.

Conflating in solid points is still better than cherry-picking on what-if points. Facts on relation between prostitution and human trafficking cannot be negated with feelings alone. While it is still immoral regardless of the legality, most pro-prostitution refused to acknowledge that legalizing prostitution will not reduce crime and exploitation against women, far less ceasing to exist. The only benefit would be for crime syndicates to legalize their businesses and expand their trafficking syndicates which translate to abuse of more women, and more fun for subscribers to be less careful about protection (which is a dream for raw goers), that's it.

Hence, how is it not hypocritical for prostitute dwellers to go for prostitution services, claim such activity will reduce sexual crimes against women, when it is built on crime?

Too weak level liao liddat.

Imagine that's x10 harder for a Chinese Guy to get an Amoi.

Drive father's S Class 20 years ago to pickup amoi, kena comment why not godcar vios dugong.
Bring go Seremban Charcoal Crab and Port Dickson, say why no bring her to Sungei Wang, Berjaya Time Square, Starhill, wadafak.
Back then, takde groupon. Wanna go hotel eat buffet expensive shit.
Walau...

But now, everything is money money money. (Money now is your difficulty reduction perishable item. Use 10 x 100 ringgit, difficulty reduces by 10%. Use 100 of the notes, difficulty no where existing liao)

Even till today I hunt people's wife also will have to get through many rejections. Some of them is even at the point you sudah thorlong, teasing, this and that, but then never get to the final stage which is bring them into one of my friend's available Airbnb, then proceed with taking off everything and start cucuke. But at the same time, even if you dun get rejections, the chances of pancut is always a variable. Imagine you hunt 100 milfs, 50 success to bed, but maybe 40 out of that 50 got some smelly meowmeow, disfigured abdominal appearance due to concieving and giving birth, and all sort of problem issues here n there. If able to cucuke inside 10 sudah counted very very very lucky liao.

And this is like you're playing baccarat. Life is all about gambling your chances, wisely.

bosses who paid salary also losers...real men get slaves to work for free