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post Oct 9 2023, 11:50 PM, updated 3y ago

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DCA 20V Cordless Brushless Driver Hammer Drill ADJZ2050i 20V Lithium-Ion BL Motor 2.0Ah
RM 280.00 with 1 battery

Dongcheng DCJZ2050i [Type DM] 20V Cordless Brushless Impact Hammer Driver Drill 2.0AH Battery
RM 300.00 with 1 battery

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both gave same warranty 1 year on battery and 6 month on drill & charger

my previous cordless drill Bosch & Makita. the price is almost double rm 700++ for 20V


do you have any experience with the product above? is it good?


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post Oct 9 2023, 11:51 PM

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Both same OEM iinm
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post Oct 9 2023, 11:52 PM

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Never used these brands before

Been using either Total or Milwaukee
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last time i buy FIXMAN from DIY 20V x 2 battery less than RM350 .. can use for hard jobs ..

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Oct 9 2023, 11:52 PM)
Never used these brands before

Been using either Total or Milwaukee
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Milwaukee is the best for heavy duty
the price is shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 9 2023, 11:53 PM)
last time i buy FIXMAN from DIY 20V x 2 battery less than RM350 .. can use for hard jobs ..
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tested fixman in MR DIY. quality so so only if compare with Dong cheng / DCA.

i am not sure about their sales after service
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QUOTE(# led display panel @ Oct 9 2023, 11:55 PM)
tested fixman in MR DIY. quality so so only if compare with Dong cheng / DCA.

i am not sure about their sales after service
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im still using it, reliable .. just dont keep hantam without giving it some rest, else the carbon will go off, after sales can go some hardware shop .. they can repair ..

recently i bought spare FIXMAN again .. but the new stock only comes with single battery ..
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post Oct 9 2023, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(# led display panel @ Oct 9 2023, 11:53 PM)
Milwaukee is the best for heavy duty
the price is  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Milwaukee motors are really really smooth mang

But yeah quite "atas"

But Total is okay too, not sure how long can last la. In Sabah they opened quite a few shops around, so aftersales service is quite good too.
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post Oct 9 2023, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(# led display panel @ Oct 9 2023, 11:50 PM)
DCA 20V Cordless Brushless Driver Hammer Drill ADJZ2050i 20V Lithium-Ion BL Motor 2.0Ah
RM 280.00 with 1 battery

Dongcheng DCJZ2050i [Type DM] 20V Cordless Brushless Impact Hammer Driver Drill 2.0AH Battery
RM 300.00 with 1 battery

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both gave same warranty 1 year on battery and 6 month on drill & charger

my previous cordless drill Bosch & Makita. the price is almost double rm 700++ for 20V
do you have any experience with the product above? is it good?
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post Oct 10 2023, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 9 2023, 11:53 PM)
last time i buy FIXMAN from DIY 20V x 2 battery less than RM350 .. can use for hard jobs ..
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i think its around 200 (one batt set).. still have mine until today... really nice and light. not much power but easy to use.
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post Oct 10 2023, 12:01 AM

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Should not buy anything less than Bosch. Later regret the poor performance.


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 10 2023, 12:00 AM)
i think its around 200 (one batt set).. still have mine until today... really nice and light. not much power but easy to use.
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yah, the one u mentioning is the 12V single battery pack i suppose, yah its lightweight, i even merge it with modified Allen-Key and bolt/nut heads easily can use to fix furnitures .. i keep it for home use only, but the 20V for field jobs smile.gif
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QUOTE(RootOfJesse @ Oct 10 2023, 12:01 AM)
Should not buy anything less than Bosch. Later regret the poor performance.
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Bosch not exp for solo tool,once u have the batt + charger
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post Oct 10 2023, 12:47 AM

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1. Dongcheng is good brand, some said equivalent quality to Bocsh..

2. I currently use drill brand Xugel. Buy from Lajada for RM100 (?) during covis. I even build hut and gazebo with this drill. Now begin loose grip however considering been using for 3 years, it really worth it.

DCA I never have experience use so no comment.
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me using madani tools, " hilti"
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QUOTE(ecrl @ Oct 10 2023, 12:47 AM)
1. Dongcheng is good brand, some said equivalent quality to Bocsh..

2. I currently use drill brand Xugel. Buy from Lajada for RM100 (?) during covis. I even build hut and gazebo with this drill. Now begin loose grip however considering been using for 3 years, it really worth it.

DCA I never have experience use so no comment.
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so far tested Dong Cheng. smooth and powerful. not sure can it last or not.
need to buy some branded (bosch hitachi makita) or china branded DCA Dongcheng. because for field work.
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post Oct 10 2023, 07:36 AM

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DCA only used sander, provide extra carbon brush, bought at brick shop, anything happen can just ask them.
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post Oct 10 2023, 07:41 AM

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Brushless motor better than brushed?
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post Oct 10 2023, 07:42 AM

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Hilti atau bosch je la
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post Oct 10 2023, 08:07 AM

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DCA & dongcheng both equivalent good. for home use don't need anymore expensive brands like bosch/b&d/milwaukee/makita. those days are over
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post Oct 10 2023, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 10 2023, 12:05 AM)
yah, the one u mentioning is the 12V single battery pack i suppose, yah its lightweight, i even merge it with modified Allen-Key and bolt/nut heads easily can use to fix furnitures .. i keep it for home use only, but the 20V for field jobs smile.gif
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No. Its the 20v one. Got it cheap i supposed
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post Oct 10 2023, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Oct 10 2023, 07:41 AM)
Brushless motor better than brushed?
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Yes. Better. Depends on brand and battery technology also
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Bosch is the lowest tier.

So China brand is below Bosch...

If it's cheap, grab and on many cases will last 2+3 years.
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post Oct 10 2023, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 10 2023, 12:05 AM)
yah, the one u mentioning is the 12V single battery pack i suppose, yah its lightweight, i even merge it with modified Allen-Key and bolt/nut heads easily can use to fix furnitures .. i keep it for home use only, but the 20V for field jobs smile.gif
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12v for screwdriver can.... drill cannot. minimum also 18v

QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:21 AM)
Yes. Better. Depends on brand and battery technology also
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inside should be all 18650 battery... I think the charging circuit makes a bit difference, battery itself like eneloop vs cheap vs even cheaper rechargables. only the highend product will use the high end cells, cheap vs cheaper not much difference.

I had a 18v battery pack died, cant get a replacement, so bought another 18v battery pack, remove and replace the 18650 cells.
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QUOTE(kevinc @ Oct 10 2023, 08:07 AM)
DCA & dongcheng both equivalent good. for home use don't need anymore expensive brands like bosch/b&d/milwaukee/makita. those days are over
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Bosch battery easy to get. DCA easy to get few years later?
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the subpar quality of the motor will overheat if you plan to use for heavy duty reasons...but if just simple house work....sure.

you aren't going to use them for business or construct work...then, any subpar machine is good enough...and you aren't using them daily or heavy work with prolong hours usage.


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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 10 2023, 10:16 AM)
Bosch battery easy to get. DCA easy to get few years later?
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batts for dca/dc are of abundance. model : lb1220-x. oem for bosch
generic rm40. ori dca/dc rm80. ori bosch rm108, rm130(gba)
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 10 2023, 10:16 AM)
Bosch battery easy to get. DCA easy to get few years later?
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suppose to get replace my bosch cordless drill battery. original cost me around rm 130/pc.

so, i decided to go for new cordless drill brushless motor.
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QUOTE(# led display panel @ Oct 10 2023, 11:22 AM)
suppose to get replace my bosch cordless drill battery. original cost me around rm 130/pc.

so, i decided to go for new cordless drill brushless motor.
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Used to drill wall plug most of the time only? or signboard fabrication?

Carbon brush is cheap to replace

If drill a lot of concrete then get cordless rotary hammer and keep the existing drill too
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:21 AM)
Yes. Better. Depends on brand and battery technology also
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recently, i trust china made battery. especially use Li-ion (lithium). most of the car battery made in china.
DCA Dongcheng using 12V "samsung" battery

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 10 2023, 11:27 AM)
Used to drill wall plug most of the time only? or signboard fabrication?

Carbon brush is cheap to replace

If drill a lot of concrete then get cordless rotary hammer and keep the existing drill too
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most of my application on steel plate, aluminum and wood surface. seldom concrete work.
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QUOTE(RootOfJesse @ Oct 10 2023, 12:01 AM)
Should not buy anything less than Bosch. Later regret the poor performance.
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Bosch > all
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 10 2023, 10:13 AM)
12v for screwdriver can.... drill cannot. minimum also 18v
inside should be all 18650 battery... I think the charging circuit makes a bit difference, battery itself like eneloop vs cheap vs even cheaper rechargables. only the highend product will use the high end cells, cheap vs cheaper not much difference.

I had a 18v battery pack died, cant get a replacement, so bought another 18v battery pack, remove and replace the 18650 cells.
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yah, of course cannot use heavy duty eg. wall drilling, that one I have hammer drill .. bought China brand also, got 4 spare carbons included, battery drill mostly use for woods, plastics etc only ..
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all my stuffs are China made, as a construction / electrical works provider .. i trust my tools, no need branded ones laugh.gif

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dca does have 12v rotary hammer. ADZC13Z rm200
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 10 2023, 09:21 AM)
Yes. Better. Depends on brand and battery technology also
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all my stuffs are China made, as a construction / electrical works provider .. i trust my tools, no need branded ones  laugh.gif
Things like grinder and saws I only dare to buy branded ones
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GSB185, brushless and cheap from a reputable brand, made in Malaysia some more
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QUOTE(# led display panel @ Oct 9 2023, 11:50 PM)
DCA 20V Cordless Brushless Driver Hammer Drill ADJZ2050i 20V Lithium-Ion BL Motor 2.0Ah
RM 280.00 with 1 battery

Dongcheng DCJZ2050i [Type DM] 20V Cordless Brushless Impact Hammer Driver Drill 2.0AH Battery
RM 300.00 with 1 battery

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both gave same warranty 1 year on battery and 6 month on drill & charger

my previous cordless drill Bosch & Makita. the price is almost double rm 700++ for 20V
do you have any experience with the product above? is it good?
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what do you plan to use this for?
why not just get a rotary hammer?

i have a cordless 12V hammer drill for regular screwing/unscrewing work.
and a corded impact drill for drilling walls/tiles.

if you want to up your home DIY game, a rotary hammer is the way to go rather than 18V or 20V hammer drill which cant really do much more than a 12V hammer drill.
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My indon worker says Dong Cheng is the best, much more reliable than Bosch he previously used

That is what he said la, coz he always involved with heavy tools during his work
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now also got battery drill can open tyre nuts similar to those air pressured .. China more advanced than those branded stuffs biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 10 2023, 01:42 PM)
now also got battery drill can open tyre nuts similar to those air pressured .. China more advanced than those branded stuffs biggrin.gif
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all along also have till you read the shopee comments laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 10 2023, 02:16 PM)
all along also have till you read the shopee comments  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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dunno about Shopee or Lazada, my brother bought directly from machinery shop ..

I dont trust purchasing online these kinda stuffs ..
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QUOTE(Penuai Yang Baik @ Oct 10 2023, 01:02 PM)
My indon worker says Dong Cheng is the best, much more reliable than Bosch he previously used

That is what he said la, coz he always involved with heavy tools during his work
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just found out DCA = Dong Cheng

ya. powerful drill. and price reasonable.
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Oct 10 2023, 01:01 PM)
what do you plan to use this for?
why not just get a rotary hammer?

i have a cordless 12V hammer drill for regular screwing/unscrewing work.
and a corded impact drill for drilling walls/tiles.

if you want to up your home DIY game, a rotary hammer is the way to go rather than 18V or 20V hammer drill which cant really do much more than a 12V hammer drill.
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for work. usually on metal, aluminum and wood surface.
seldom drill on wall.
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for work. usually on metal, aluminum and wood surface.
seldom drill on wall.
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ok, that makes sense then. carry on.

 

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