Hi,
Any EV Car users around? Mind to share your driving & maintenance experience?
Which model is yours?
Should I?

boy96 mari masuk

Unker about to bought byd dolphin woso.

Already booking.

Possibly taking car end of this month or next month.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5387323&hl=


Can refer to my thread here. Will continue updating there

Wow... congratulations! Em, seems a lot of BYD Fans ya!
Chery good?

Appreciate your recommendation. I'll go check 🤩

If you

1. Live landed
2. Don’t travel more than 100km daily
3. Don’t rely on your EV to balik RAYA/CNY

yes, EV suitable enough for you (if you have the moolah to spend).

We don’t have Cherry EV here yet, no?

Those Omada/Tiggo are pure ICE cars.

I currently drive Nissan Ariya 87kw. My car before this was Polestar 2. In terms of driving experience, Polestar wins hands down. It is after all from Volvo. The main thing I dislike about Polestar is that the chasis is from Volvo XC40, an ICE car. Hence, you get a transmission tunnel and ackwardly small driver's cabin.
With Ariya, I can get approx 380km to 400km on a full charge but this would depend driving style, traffic and weather. I have a home charger and charges overnight.
There are things that I have to keep in mind that wouldnt cross my mind if I have an ICE car, such as:
1. I always try to keep the car's state of charge when at home to at least 85% for emergency reasons that would require me to make long distance/ multi trips
2. Trips need to be planned be it long or short distance, to map out charging points..range anxiety is real folks!.
3. Public charging can take time,depending on capacity and also chargers themselves may not be available or operational.

EV price just like rich man toys...unless there is breakthru on charging...else my maximum tolerance is Hybrid...

Best Combo:

1. Fast Charger in Home
2. Solar Panel in Home
3. Got a Hybrid/ICE Car also ( spared )


This is Currently the BEST of ALL World.

Main Driver : Your EV ( charged by solar, free Milage )
Imagine the Petrol / TNB saved by Solar Monthly...


Total Saving - Solar Installment = Positive Cashflow goes into EV Installment.

your income level already limited your vision/knowledge
you are not very well informed.


unless you talking about RM15k used car VS new EV......
EV price = Rich Man toys??????????????????????????????????????????

Sorry my friend.... Your Defination of Rich man toys = ~200k??? ( even tesla below 200k)

comeon.... 8k/month can easily afford 200k car..

Heard there is already have 15mjns Fast Charge?

Heard, end of the year? Tigo Pro PHEV?

So, it's still a transition period? No one dare to traveling far or to kampung with EV?

Can try to bring cable charge at kampung.

Can try whether kampung house wiring can tahan or not
- If slow & low wattage i think boleh.


Half way must stop @ R&R. ICE car can straight refuel & go from perlis to johor.

This post has been edited by Aftermaths: Oct 9 2023, 11:25 PM

Yea..i cant afford 200k car...
8k/month after EPF and tax and etc left 6.5k and 200k car pay is like 2.9k per month....
If you can afford single story house + solar panel..... i think with 8k per month you barely survive...

normal plug i think charge few day only can get the ev car full gua...

This post has been edited by shyan90's: Oct 9 2023, 11:36 PM

IMHO, current charging infrastructure does not allow for someone to have EV as the only/main car especially if your kampong is not in one of the big cities.
there are apps such as Zapmap or even the car native's gps/google map that can help find public charger. The main problem I found however is that either the charger is occupied or not working.

home chargers are slow, but its not ur emergency charger.

what i mean is u shouldnt wait till 0%. you can charge every night when you are home. like ur phone, left 20% u also wanna charge already.

This post has been edited by pisces88: Oct 10 2023, 12:50 AM

Probably around 8 ~ 14 hours depending on charger & battery capacity.

Scenario 1:
I'm back home kampung ady! (Just plug in to charge your car)
Fren --> Jom pergi sebelah town makan then pergi another town meet girls minum teh.

Typical answer is.......................? (Kenot la, kena charge my car)

Mis-communicated fren --> No need charge at home la, just bring powerbank charge during makan & minum, ada girls eh.


Conclusion
It's not really a balik kampung car when u need to rush a few places in short time.

Guys, how about PHEV (instead) ? Does it solve the problem?

Reluctantly I’m also making preliminary plans to embrace the EV platform - as much as I make public my reservations about it, the inevitable adoption of EV technology will necessitate its adoption regardless of my personal views or opinions.

At this point, I’m waiting to see what the new Macan EV will be capable of, and maybe hop on the bandwagon with that as well as a refreshed Taycan or an EV Boxster.

It solve the problem but another problem arise.

Which problem u wan to solve?

So conclusion is, EV is a city car.
Not suitable for long journey and less developed places.

In malaysia we use plugshare, zapmap not used here

Balik kg just slow charge from my parents 3 pin plug.

😅🤣

Distance is just 220km away from my home definitely can make it lar.

I'm in the opinion EV is still for mid level/ above income group. A decent EV would be Dolphin? Which is around 100k, not something everyone can afford.

Imagine someone who is driving a Myvi, what option does he has if he wants to move to an EV?

Example - 5yrs TCO between owning a Myvi vs Dolphin?

May not be a good comparison coz some may argue different category of vehicle. Until EV cost is around 50k-70k, i recon the adoption rate will be low in MY.

If there is suddenly a new launch of 50-70k ev available right now. The charging infrastructure definitely cannot handle it.

Charge point operators here even Tesla currently only focusing on installing chargers from North to South.. its like the east coast, kelantan terengganu and the roads leading there are not being looked upon by these charge point operators..

This post has been edited by Boy96: Oct 10 2023, 09:06 AM

let's see if this coming budget if got anything aid from govt to help B40 to change to ev

I think not only charging infra not able handle..but one major issue which effected the most is is our power grid able to handle all these EV vehicle?
Last time I read an article claim that we almost hit 1:1 now.. (1 people 1 vehicle) and we are around 33M people.
What if 5% of the vehicle change to EV...1.65M EV coming...are around 10% are required to charge-165k....are we able to charge them all?

Waiting for BYD Seal launch~~

Apartment condo oso possible now without access to home charging.

But this 2 thing is your main primary source to charge:

A litre of petrol covered distance is generally almost equivalent to 2 kwh. So means to get cheaper or at least same cost than petrol. Per kwh rate must be lowered than rm1.

1. Use apps identify which gentari fast charger is nearest to your home/office or along the way.

Gentari mainly use fast charging and count per kwh of your car being charged. Can fill up 40-80% pretty fast within less than 1 hour or a lil bit more. Per kwh they charge non member rm1.20 to rm1.50 usually.

If you enroll gentari membership which is around rm890-900 per annum. They will discount 50% charging rate compared to non member. This means per kwh price half to 60-75cents.

2. Locate mall or commercial area that you always frequent that have shell recharge ev charger in their mall. Rate is damn cheap for 7-11kwh AC slow charging. Usually rm3 per hour. Parking rate plus charging cost if average up it only cost around 58cents per kwh. That almost similar to charging from your home. Of course you need to spent time in mall longer 2-4 hours to get 14-28kwh charged.

3. There is also some strata highrise that already install ev chargers. You can find out via ev chargers apps. The charging rate is usually just slightly higher than charging from your home. The cost reduce more if you enroll their membership around rm200+ per annum like chargev. From 80cents per kwh will drop to 60cents per kwh rate fir slow charging AC. Chargev also give their members free charging on some of their slow AC chargers. They also have DC fast charge but im not sure their members rate got discount or just the same as non members.

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Oct 10 2023, 10:35 AM

come jan next year, my household fully convert to ev only

drive tesla for almost 1.5 years with little to no range anxiety.. next jan will get taycan... landed charging with PV.. other states outside KV is getting a lot better, at least better than 2022.. ipoh town alone got at least 2 high powered dc charging hubs... more when tesla suc masuk... so nice and easy for 2023 and years to come... thats not counting lower dc/ac charging points which is a lot more

trip to penang or jb single charge no problem if ur capacity >70kw.. i do oustation trips once a month for jalan2 cari makan trip, never had range anxiety

every state got charging points, some more than others, why worried?

unless u stay kelantan, even there got a few chargers, but not a lot

worse case scenario, use granny charger to top up at kampung

those naysayers that still worried, u do ur thing, ur worry and scientism is also making my outstation trips easier

This post has been edited by sihamsedap: Oct 10 2023, 10:05 AM

This is not a problem, the change will be gradual over the next 20-30 years. Not like suddenly everyone will change overnight

As of right now our electricity production is too high until we even sell electricity to other countries

For off peak season, you’re generally safe so long as you plan your stops well at RnR.

But for big festives like CNY/RAYA, I wouldn’t dare to even imagine all those frustrations associated to it.

This post has been edited by msacras: Oct 10 2023, 11:50 AM

Look at China..best example.

So far, accurate? Keep adding more charging station?

What does it mean by 3 Pin Plug charging? We still have to get a "charger" for that? 😅 sorry for my "fool" ,real new with no idea at all 🙏🏼

Wow... This is an encouraging testimony, man! As mentioned earlier, does PHEV giving faster charge? I heard that it will only need 15mins for "full tank"! True?

Yup. City & highway no issue. Just afraid in small town. Real worse?

Just curious those driving EV how's the range when doing 140-150km/h at highway?

3 pin means can charge ur ev car just from ur normal wall socket. Charging speed is limited though. 1.9kw per hour. If you have 60kwh car battery capacity. That means 1.5-2 days of slow charging.

If u have smaller batery capacity like the byd dolphin standard range 45kwh. It will take 1 full day of slow charging from 0 to go to full.

The 3 pin slow charger is provided from byd free to all the car purchaser not sure of other brand though. Should be standard equipment given inclusive with the car.

sometimes unlucky normal Sunday or small holiday can take more than 10+ hours from penang to kl

3pin = 2kW AC charging, AKA slow charging.

To fill up ATTO3 from 0%, you need to charge 25hours on that.

The convenience is that you can plug it into any wall-plug at landed properties.

PHEV doesn’t have anything to do with fast charge. It’s a hybrid ICE/EV car with ability to both pump petrol and charge by electricity.

Highway/small town is not the issue here, but the issue is limited charging bays and long charging hours. It gonna felt like early in the morning your family of 5 all are having diarrhoea but need to queue up on only 1 toilet, it’s a nightmare in making. During normal days 1 toilet may be enough, but when it’s special day that everyone needed to use toilet at same time, it gonna explode.

This post has been edited by msacras: Oct 10 2023, 07:59 PM

Very accurate and we have alot of volunteers updating it everyday
Depends on which brand, Tesla can still be quite efficient and those speed but BYD's gets very bad efficiency

is charging using 3 pin plug advisable? i have read many posts on overheating issues and even melting the wall socket with this method. planning to install a 3 pin plug socket on my personal parking lot of my apartment. pull the wire from the nearby junction box. need to convince my JMB first.

only if new cars which gives 7.4kw.. u still need 3-4 hours for full charge.. older are mostly still 3.7 which is double the charge time

Not an expert but this vid will help explain why the plug burnt:

Not advisable. If you are already pulling new wire, just straight install a wallbox

I see! Jia Lat 😅 so, while traveling to those kampung with less charging bay, there's no "Power Bank" type of potable charger in the market?

PHEV, as my understanding, it seems NOT using petrol but applying the technology of "charge-while-moving", am I wrong? And as my friend said, PHEV which he understands from Chery is Fast Charge - 15 minutes of Full Charge! Am I wrong again ? 😅

So, it's just like WAZE? could be updated by users!

But, it still slow charge as mentioned above, right?
In fact, condo management allowed? Who's going to pay the bill?

Does it mean New Car equiped with "Faster Charge"? Even 3-pin wall plug could provided a little fast charge?

Thanks, will definitely check it out!
It just like a high power appliances work too long and cause the "Live Pin" overheating?

In fact, condo allowed to install wallbox?

Yes, the government recently allowed existing highrise building to install wallbox without any limitations. Now its just you need to discuss with your condo management on how to pull wire to your parking lot.

the installation fees is provided by owner?

but not for DBKL i think

Only will consider if can fully charge around 5 minutes. Afraid late to attend meeting, since I always suddenly found out my car out of gas, able refill gas pretty quick. Hope tat one day I become boss and the one that host meeting, then should be fine. I just let them know I postpone the meeting to an hour later. Can charge my ev and t the sametime enjoy breakfast, syoknya.

Old Condo susah I think! Still, how to calculate the monthly fee? A meter for it? Then cost must be high. And it's not common yet, so most probably management will delay... I think

I think yes! As BYD owner mentioned, they Free Gift Wall Box, but installation fees not included (correct me if I'm wrong)

Condo, then private premise, decided by Condo, right?

Hybrid Car got 2 type. Expensive Hybrid such as Volvo / Benz / BMW in Malaysia are all PHEV. PHEV Hybrid got extra charging port, so you can charge your car in mall / house. PHEV battery are small comapre to EV cars, because PHEV car battery only can last 40-60km that why your friend says, it charge very fast, actually nop, because the battery capacity are small.

Japanese hybrid car in Malaysia market are all HEV. Civic , Insight , Yaris Cross , Corolla Cross , Prius (Old) , Camry Hybrid , Nissan Serena Hybrid...etc etc are all HEV.
HEV Hybrid don't have charging port. Battery had to be recharge by engine running. HEV hybrid cannot park at Charging station inside mall, totally no advantage in parking.

I heard some 330E owner claim that if you din charge your battery in your PHEV..your car FC will worst than petrol car as there is additional weight and your engine capacity are chop due to the EV system..

I think could up to 100km. In fact, cheaper range cars from China are now started to equiped with PHEV like Chery!

Indeed. So, it's like Petrol Backup car instead of Battery backup car (Hybrid). Macam Petrol Tank not so big, but battery size is bigger (than hybrid car) but smaller (than EV Car). So, certain weight is there.

Now BYD gip u choose.

Free wall box or free rm2000 charging credit they transfer to your either chargev or jomcharge app.

looks like lots will be jumping ship straight from ICE to EV

skipping the hybrid stage

most EV drivers out there all drive accordingly one, never misbehave

hoping there'll be more and more respect among drivers as we move from gasoline to e

Driving is one thing.

Fighting for limited charging ports during big festives are another.

If I still able to afford fuel and re-fuel is not an issue in 40 years i still will go for gasoline.

Hi all,

Need your advice for home EV Type 2 Charger recommendation.

House Type: Landed
3 Phase wiring
Solar panel installation planned: 10.35 kW

What is the recommended EV Charger for this combination?
*I am still ok to increase the solar spec if needed

Thanks!

just get those 22kW chargers like Wallbox Pulsar Plus or Pulsar Max.
for installers can use this - https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeGreenPower

Usually see EV owners fighting more on charging slots.
Driving so far all ok because they fighting for efficiency.

my ev is in 56k mileage already (primary car , sold my ice already)
even roadtrip i use my ev too .

for 'limited charging ports' i think at the moment we still no need worry about it , most of time you will just charge it from home (much cheaper ,why bother to charge outside ? )

i've been using it even cny , hari raya , highway jam is nothing , it can generate more juices .

Saw a green BYD Atto 3 being towed today. Any idea what could have happened?

who would have know/

I recall last time just 1 month after launch, got ppl’s Atto3 need to be towed cause they die2 try to reach beyond the remaining/planned mileage.

Its a bit late to be doing shit like this, no? I've seen Youtubers do this to find out the actual range with tow trucks on standby, but for a normal user, its kind of stupid coz the car will keep informing you to recharge.
While I hope its due to a flat battery, would be good to know if there are other issues coz I am contemplating buying one in the near future.

ok, is this model good and can cater to many type of EV cars?

Thanks Sir

All ev can use this charger

@adam71 punya atto3 charging port got problem charging error cannot charge , got replaced within byd warranty.

Ok, maybe got charging problem lah then.

One of the few branded ones in Malaysia. Good or not I dunno. Same charger given by BYD and Hyundai to their car purchasers

Landed house? Got install solar panel?
What EV you currently using?

no , i stay condo , but im lucky my condo come with chargers (foc)

kia ev6

Ok..you're the only EV in your condo or your condo have few charger?

ya few chargers , there's getting alot ev now . but still , manageable to charge always .
in future we might propose add more chargers .

I’m wading into the lions’ den here, so go ahead and maul me with your answers for what I’m about to ask…

As most of you would know, I own a Cayenne and a 911 in Sydney - both rather environmentally egregious dino-juice guzzling jalopies.

I also happen to be going thru a Porsche phase at the moment, having gone through a Mercedes phase earlier in my car driving career, and having just weaned myself off a BMW phase prior to starting my love affair with Stuttgart.

Porsche just came out with the Cayenne GTS 9YA E3, or more specifically the E3.2 since the new facelifted model was announced earlier this year.

It is a direct middle finger to all the tree-huggers out there. Instead of downsizing or going hybrid before going all EV, it threw out the old Twin Turbo V6 and lumped an almighty V8 into the engine bay.

It’s a V8 and it will sound glorious.

I’m thinking of buying it on the last possible minute before the order books close (could be in 3 to 5 years’ time before the new Cayenne EV hits the road) and would like to hear your thoughts on my potential purchase.

Would you, if given a chance, go for one of the last V8s or would you go all EV, since I already have a E3 Cayenne already?

Please be gentle.

Thanks in advance

This post has been edited by hksgmy: Jun 16 2024, 07:32 AM

Foc? no need to pay for charging?

Have you got your car yet? Many cars do give free EV charger box. You can also source from FB EV groups where many people got free wallbox but unable to install because staying in condo. They sell slightly cheaper. Most importantly, get authorised installer because one of my client uses unauthorised installer and the box rosak after few months use, and no warranty. Make sure the installer got ST certification as lots of installer only got chargeman and experience, when I read some of their recommendations, those truly experienced EV installer will know something is wrong.

Boss, you are the most knowledgeable and most humble gardener I’ve had the privilege of calling friend.

Boss, ayam learn when doing cleaning job saja. What ayam learn, ayam share. Boss is more humble than most big bosses I met during cleaning job. 🙏

ya temporary free (but i already free for 2 yrs)

Definitely go for the V8 if this is what floats your boat. For those for whom a car is an appliance to go from A to B, ICE cars would no longer make any sense once the infrastructure is up and petrol prices are fully floated in Malaysia. But most petrol heads are downright against EV and they will still get ICE especially the V8 or V12s if they still can. I think it will also hold its value well into the future and become a classic.

Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

I'm in Australia (well, at least my cars are, I'm presently a car owner in Singapore), and I was thinking, Australia is a big ass country .... I'd rather trust a petrol station than the non-existent EV network in rural areas...

To be honest, I'm gravitating towards the big thirty V8 simply because it will be the last of its kind, just like how my 2023 911 992 GTS is the last of the non-hybrids.

Oz is the most ideal place for EV/PHEV +Solar for all states except Victoria. By 2030 there is no need to have additional carbon-fuel power generation as their renewable energy esp solar will be in abundance. By then probably 80% of homes have solar n EV/PHEV. Currently 50% of homes in SA & Qland have solar panels.

This post has been edited by MGM: Jun 16 2024, 06:26 PM

Oz is also the only country where they are taxing EVs additionally because EVs don’t use fuel and therefore don’t pay the fuel excise….

Hopefully by then, one full charge on the Taycan will take me from Sydney to Melbourne with range to spare….

But it is the still d cheapest among all western countries as it doesnt have local car makers to protect unlike the rest.
I think hybrid with 2000km range per tank like byd Qin L should be useful in Oz.

I know however reluctantly I will have to give in to the irrepressible wave that is the EV future….

It will be a sad day for petrolheads like me, but this is progress.

Yes OZ is one of the few Western countries that gladly accept EV cos it make sense in many aspects. Now that diplomatic relation has improved with the recent reciprocal visitation, more Chinese EVs, solar panels & battery tech will land onto OZ soils. Oz is so conducive for renewable energy that they r going to build battery storage system for excess energy.

https://www.energy-storage.news/queensland-...-power-station/