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 Cash or Wise (Digital Card), Travelling to Australia

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blanket84
post Oct 6 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Oct 6 2023, 10:52 AM)
even with Wise?
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Any cards. Only small retailer do that though. Supermarket, departmental stores, established brand stores wouldn't charge you extra.
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:18 AM

 
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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 6 2023, 11:16 AM)
yeah i mean i dont see any CC network charges in here

This is what i saw on the WISE pricing website
https://wise.com/my/pricing/card-fees?sourc...R&targetCcy=AUD
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It's the retailers aka merchants sendiri add the surcharges if you choose to pay by card.
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 6 2023, 11:18 AM)
It's the retailers aka merchants sendiri add the surcharges if you choose to pay by card.
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but is it mean this practice is retailer by retailer basis? if choose good retailer then such problems will be more manageable?

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post Oct 6 2023, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 6 2023, 11:16 AM)
yeah i mean i dont see any CC network charges in here

This is what i saw on the WISE pricing website
https://wise.com/my/pricing/card-fees?sourc...R&targetCcy=AUD
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seems like the fees is just 0.6%, which is way lower than CC network + exorbitant bank FX rate
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He's referring to the additional charge imposed by smaller Aussie merchants on top of the conversion fee you paid to top up your card to that foreign currency.

Just like how in the early days retailers here imposed 2% or 3% surcharge if you paid by cc.
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:22 AM

 
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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 6 2023, 11:18 AM)
shocking.gif

but is it mean this practice is retailer by retailer basis? if choose good retailer then such problems will be more manageable?
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Yes, small hostels/shops there still do that.
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 6 2023, 11:12 AM)
You can try top up a MYR in WIse account, and do a small swipe there and see how it goes
in my experience, it just charge the exchange rate listed in the app +1% and thats it

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Apps got charges, retailer also got charges. So it's double charges.

Like you buy from small retailer here. CC price and cash price is different.
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 6 2023, 11:19 AM)
He's referring to the additional charge imposed by smaller Aussie merchants on top of the conversion fee you paid to top up your card to that foreign currency.

Just like how in the early days retailers here imposed 2% or 3% surcharge if you paid by cc.
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Oh I see... hmm, then I have no good solution to that

Use cash on this situation, then swipe away on big purchases it is yeah?
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 6 2023, 10:46 AM)

I've use WISE to go for Taiwan trip some months ago, and just by using WISE i saved ~RM50 compared to credit card / local money exchanger rates
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For hotel, shops, 7eleven, mrt, we sure can use wise in Taiwan.

But how about for food stalls or pasar Malam? Do they accept debit card? Or qr app? Or cash only?
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(billylks @ Oct 6 2023, 11:29 AM)
For hotel, shops, 7eleven, mrt, we sure can use wise in Taiwan.

But how about for food stalls or pasar Malam? Do they accept debit card? Or qr app? Or cash only?
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thats why need cash to backup also. cards is only for big shopping spree
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post Oct 6 2023, 11:32 AM

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word of advice, shops dont have online terminals like qr pay etc. Not even coles have em, but they do have some spread on apple pay. So make sure you have your physical wise card too.

The digital card can be used for online purchase only like Uber etc.

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post Oct 6 2023, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 6 2023, 11:31 AM)
thats why need cash to backup also. cards is only for big shopping spree
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No qr app ka? I was in Taiwan many years ago that time no ewallet yet.
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post Oct 6 2023, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(billylks @ Oct 6 2023, 11:37 AM)
No qr app ka? I was in Taiwan many years ago that time no ewallet yet.
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oh, i think i didnt go through the trouble to research and set that up, just used cash all the way

cards definitely no i think

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post Oct 6 2023, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 6 2023, 12:32 PM)
word of advice, shops dont have online terminals like qr pay etc. Not even coles have em, but they do have some spread on apple pay. So make sure you have your physical wise card too.

The digital card can be used for online purchase only like Uber etc.
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Apply pay is connected to Wise Digital Card, As long they have card machine u can just wave right?
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post Oct 6 2023, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Oct 6 2023, 10:34 AM)
Hey guys, I'm travelling to Australia next month. I plan to bring Cash around 1k AUD for 8 days if I'm short in cash i will be using Wise Digital Card.

Any advice? Should i just Change 1.5k Australia Dollars or just rely on Wise will do but they have small surcharge for converting.
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put 90% into Wise and the rest just exchange to AUD cash to put aside for emergency just in case merchant doesn't have terminal.

You can still withdraw money using Wise card at any ATM and first two withdrawal is free (if your cash is out and need another physical cash)

Use Wise card/Apple Pay whenever you can.

I just got back from Perth weeks back and all my transaction via card or Apple Pay. I exhange couple of hundred dollars that doesn't used until my end of trip. Have to spent all during last day because coming back here and exchange, rugi on exchange fee.

edit: been to Coles, petrol station, wildife park, outskirt attracktion and even small coffee shop accept card.

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post Oct 6 2023, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Oct 6 2023, 10:44 AM)
fair point there sir, looks like Wise is a great idea to start with.
Agree, I believe they are mature in e-wallet it will be more easier for me. Just topup my Wise wallet whenever i need.
My Visa already approved, should be no problem and i will be travelling alone 1k AUD in cash should be suffice?
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1k?
How long your stay?
Border force will sure hold you for suspected overstayer.
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post Oct 6 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Oct 6 2023, 10:49 AM)
Its my first time using Wise actually. In Malaysia i dont carry cash with me at all, just because its my first time in Melbourne and i will be travelling alone just wanna be safe if Digital payment is mature there  biggrin.gif
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and you dont have to carry cash at all in Melbourne.

Seriously.

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post Oct 6 2023, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(rip_code @ Oct 6 2023, 01:42 PM)
put 90% into Wise and the rest just exchange to AUD cash to put aside for emergency just in case merchant doesn't have terminal.

You can still withdraw money using Wise card at any ATM and first two withdrawal is free (if your cash is out and need another physical cash)

Use Wise card/Apple Pay whenever you can.

I just got back from Perth weeks back and all my transaction via card or Apple Pay. I exhange couple of hundred dollars that doesn't used until my end of trip. Have to spent all during last day because coming back here and exchange, rugi on exchange fee.

edit: been to Coles, petrol station, wildife park, outskirt attracktion and even small coffee shop accept card.
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thanks for the input sir, i have a few question in mind.

- Do u have any issue at the boarder for carrying less cash?
- If i apply just for Wise Digital Card should be ok right since its connect to apply pay?


QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Oct 6 2023, 01:46 PM)
and you dont have to carry cash at all in Melbourne.

Seriously.
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With all these comment, i gonna rethink about changing so much cash now haha
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post Oct 6 2023, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleman_League @ Oct 6 2023, 12:50 PM)
thanks for the input sir, i have a few question in mind.

- Do u have any issue at the boarder for carrying less cash?
- If i apply just for Wise Digital Card should be ok right since its connect to apply pay?
With all these comment, i gonna rethink about changing so much cash now haha
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Why not top up a bit to get a physical card sent to you?
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post Oct 6 2023, 01:04 PM

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credit card also ok ma
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post Oct 6 2023, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(aidris87 @ Oct 6 2023, 11:11 AM)
just use any credit card you are fine

my advise dont bring cash at all overseas
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have to see which country also ... Only those developed country la....

Like Thai... mostly cash. 7-11 now previously can use card... now min spending 200 baht only can use.


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