I am referring to those that nem import at 600kwh figure. Meaning their nem import is 600, export is 400 or around there lah. Small setup.

Not import -export =600

Correct I am talking about those import mmg less in the first place. Not talking about those big usage.

There are users who install solar when their usage was about 600-700kwh.

These are the ppl I am referring to. That their eei incentive is being pulled back.

After solar, their import drop further to 400-500kwh.

Battery no point for nem if incentive is the target. Coz no matter how much u reduce, the pelarasan incentive will be there to claw back all the eei rewarded.

New nem coming. But almost surely be worse

I think it will make storage compulsory. Like min storage capacity for single and three phase respectively.

Actually it’s like this.

The incentive is for users who use less. Let’s say u use 600kwh. Each kWh is 50 cent. (For the sake of calculation) And ur eei entitlement is 10 cent per kWh. (For the sake of easy calculation ) that means u get 60 ringgit off from ur 300 ringgit.

That means lah. Actual price is 40 cent per kWh right. ?

And so coincidence u have NEM, u suppose to offset 50 cent right? And let’s say ur generation is 600kwh. Ngam ngam. So u suppose to get offset 300 ringgit right? But this will cause Tnb to be at a loss. They charge u 40 cent per kWh after the eei incentive, and suddenly u want them to pay u 50 cent for each kWh u generated. Hence the pelarasan of 10 cent per unit for 600kwh generated. Which is rm60.


But in another month, let’s say u generate 500 units only. And use 600 kWh.

So Tnb still charge u 600 units at 50 cent, and offer 10 cent back as eei, which effectively make it 40 cent per unit. Which is rm240 in total. (Eei is worth rm60)

And since u only generate 500 kWh unit this month, if based on 50 cent rate, Tnb should deduct rm250, but since u only need to pay Tnb rm240, so this will make Tnb rugi rm10. So to avoid This, the 500 units that suppose to be used to offset should not be in 50 cent, it should be only 40 cent. And u will only get 200 ringgit worth of offset. And need to still pay rm40. (240-200).( Pelarasan eei is rm50)

In this month, u get only 10 cent for eei for the 100 units which is not offset due to not enough generation. (600-500)
(Your actual eei is rm10)

Hopefully it’s clear to understand.

This post has been edited by bee88: Aug 6 2025, 10:46 PM

How much u r paying now? If ur export and import is similar, there is no way u are so much impacted.

Oic. If that’s the case, your actual usage is about 1100kwh at conservative rate and could possibly 1300kwh.

Thst means if you didn’t go solar, your bill could have been 525 ringgit to 625 ringgit at the latest tariff.

So your saving actually , after paying rm182, is about rm343-443 for last month.

And the next question is how much is your setup. A saving of 344-443 is enough to maintain your previous ROi, unless you really paid through your nose for the setup u acquired , or you went for subscription services especially those with fixed rate based on generation of the setup.

I have that card. U need big spending for that kind of cash back. It has tiered spending. So not everyone can get that rm100 by just pumping 833. That’s one the best case scenario , if u have a min spending of 2.5k total iinm.

Also one thing to note, your setup must match with your setup, unless you are on single phase which limits your capacity. If your usage was that high in the first place, you should have gone through the 3 phase upgrade and get bigger setup, if you were limited by single phase requirement.

When ppl asked me, I would always say go for full offset at least. And it turned out to be beneficial as there is no big gap beteeen import and export now. And hence there is very little effect for current adjustment for people who listened to my advice.

the initial proposed calculation for the new tariff was even worse, but still, people with very little gap between export and import will do better than the rest. But still, should they stick to the ground with initial calculation, I think I would also flip table already. Hahaha.

This is another issue which is not related. I was just explaining your queries about the eei.

Yes. In short there is a hike. Coz previously got Lowe tier than the current 44 cent.

Correct. U got covered with the extra generation. That’s why u see ur pelarasan is 100%. They give u 60, take back 60.

All kena. Depending on how u look at it. Even if u manage to cover all, u still kena. In fact if u see, it’s the highest increase ever. From negative bill to rm 1- rm2. That is high in term of percentage. Hahaha

That’s why it’s important to ensure export as close to import.

The next nem from what I heard will require a Bess. There is a possibility that the capacity is parallel to your panel size. Meaning 7kwp setup with 7kwh battry. But since battery comes in 5kwh usually maybe I think it’s 5kwh for single phase and 10kwh for three phase.

So there is no harm installing now since the old nem is already over.

Yes. Correct. Mine is all covered. Labour inclusive plus sky lift. But after 5 years will need to pay also. Unless I am taking their annual plan.

For string, better place with air flow. That’s one reason why I prefer micro. No need to worry about where to put. It’s under neath the panels or if ur roof is accessible with some shaded area, can put at shaded side for easy accessibility.

Yes. This is a problem with string. The humming noise is something users have to live with if install indoor.

Usually microinverter is about 66-70 Celsius for my case. Rarely goes beyond 75

So far okay lah. Fingers crossed.

The inverter itself is ip68 anyway.

It would usually happen if the ip68 seal isn’t properly done. If it’s done right, it’s an uncommon occurrence.