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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup/Carabao Cup Winners (6): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017, 2023

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - 22 May 2022]
Erik ten Hag [23 May 2022 - Current]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Face the truth, based on how we are playing.
Based on the injury list.
Based on our squad.
The target shud be top 6 this season.
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post Aug 29 2023, 10:03 PM

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another failed transfer window
another poor pre season
another injury crisis
another rebuilding (again)
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Damn ! No wonder LB is priority signing now
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 29 2023, 09:26 PM)




Face the truth, based on how we are playing.
Based on the injury list.
Based on our squad.
The target shud be top 6 this season.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Aug 29 2023, 10:03 PM)
another failed transfer window
another poor pre season
another injury crisis
another rebuilding (again)
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Let’s face it, we never a title contender for this season to begin with

Top 4 is another minimum requirement, and don’t get toy by City or another 7-0 thrashing by Pool are more than happy already

Don’t forget this season expect every match play 100 min, team like City will be good advantage given that their squad depth is enough to cover… Chelsea keep on piling up players will be useful in the later stage.

Varane as always an injury prone, now Shaw and Malacia on long term injuries, Martial can’t last 60 min, Casemiro suddenly drop form (maybe due to age), Antony is another time bomb if his case did happened, what else, Onana is good with national team and he is off for AFCON for at least 1.5 months, Eriksen is only good if playing with non pressing team, Sancho is just Sancho, Mount injury bothering him again…..Greenwood kena u turn kao kao by the board, Hojlund is unknown…

So expecting Bruno to play every games for 100 min, including international matches



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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Aug 29 2023, 10:57 PM)
Let’s face it, we never a title contender for this season to begin with

Top 4 is another minimum requirement, and don’t get toy by City or another 7-0 thrashing by Pool are more than happy already

Don’t forget this season expect every match play 100 min, team like City will be good advantage given that their squad depth is enough to cover… Chelsea keep on piling up players will be useful in the later stage.

Varane as always an injury prone, now Shaw and Malacia on long term injuries, Martial can’t last 60 min, Casemiro suddenly drop form (maybe due to age), Antony is another time bomb if his case did happened, what else, Onana is good with national team and he is off for AFCON for at least 1.5 months, Eriksen is only good if playing with non pressing team, Sancho is just Sancho, Mount injury bothering him again…..Greenwood kena u turn kao kao by the board, Hojlund is unknown…

So expecting Bruno to play every games for 100 min, including international matches
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then Bruno burnt out by mid-season, and got leg muscle issue lepas tu



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I thought this cucu got tons of mistake when playing for Chelsea
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Due to incompetent of management in bringing in new players, and our injury list, Ten Hag really need to re-evaluate the whole situation.

Loaning out of certain youngsters such as Hannibal, and Alvaro Fernandez need to be wait until last hours of transfer deadline.
If no new player is coming in, then he need to keep them.

The injury list will only become longer and longer due to every game has basically become 105 mins.

Yes, call it management fault, but he also need to adjust accordingly with the limited resources he has.

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post Aug 30 2023, 09:18 AM

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United's sickbay seems like interesting as more and more checking in...
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first time baru 3 matches EPL and our injury list piling up so much... lol... the medical team issue? martial will soon join back the injury list anytime soon... basically now... we have lack of cover at LB and no.9.... what a stupid window we have... say is rebuilding but only afford to bought 3 first team players only, damn stingy pundek glazers... veratti is available for free and some no.9 from mid table teams also shud be available if we ask for it, just snatch any one...
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Aug 30 2023, 09:18 AM)
United's sickbay seems like interesting as more and more checking in...
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i think we hire new guy for medical department rite? from Arsenal i think.. no wonder our injury suddenly become worse biggrin.gif


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sancho to chelsea here we go?? really?

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Aug 30 2023, 11:53 AM)
sancho to chelsea here we go?? really?
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Ha, last time u so hype for him to come, now desperate want to see him leave?...topkek..pffffft
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VDB is more and more unlikely to leave.
If unfortunately really not leaving, I low-key suggest Ten Hag put him as false 9. After sequence of Hojlund and Martial.

Rashford in no.9 is proven failed.
VDB in all midfield positions also proven failed.

Starting Rashford as no.9 and playing VDB so far is a disaster. Try some strange change rather than keep the same failed formula.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 30 2023, 01:50 AM)
Due to incompetent of management in bringing in new players, and our injury list, Ten Hag really need to re-evaluate the whole situation.

Loaning out of certain youngsters such as Hannibal, and Alvaro Fernandez need to be wait until last hours of transfer deadline.
If no new player is coming in, then he need to keep them.

The injury list will only become longer and longer due to every game has basically become 105 mins.

Yes, call it management fault, but he also need to adjust accordingly with the limited resources he has.
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People tend to overhype all these youngsters larh, how many of the academy players did the club actually make a mistake with? Pogba wanted to leave so he doesnt count. Angel Gomes meh, Garner meh, Morrison trash, who else?
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 30 2023, 01:16 PM)
People tend to overhype all these youngsters larh, how many of the academy players did the club actually make a mistake with? Pogba wanted to leave so he doesnt count. Angel Gomes meh, Garner meh, Morrison trash, who else?
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has been a very2 long time since our academy have world class player... lol... not like man city or chelsea academy, produced more world class players these past few years...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 30 2023, 02:07 PM)
has been a very2 long time since our academy have world class player... lol... not like man city or chelsea academy, produced more world class players these past few years...
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And yet fans hype certain ones larh like Garner Iqbal etc ...when it comes to the academy players the track record is not that bad with whatever decisions United have made so far.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 30 2023, 03:17 PM)
And yet fans hype certain ones larh like Garner Iqbal etc ...when it comes to the academy players the track record is not that bad with whatever decisions United have made so far.
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i have some hopes for rashy and greenwood previously, but after the januzaj case, i already learnt to manage my expectations towards our academy players... most of it just fade out easily... lol... macheda is also a good example
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Aug 30 2023, 01:16 PM)
People tend to overhype all these youngsters larh, how many of the academy players did the club actually make a mistake with? Pogba wanted to leave so he doesnt count. Angel Gomes meh, Garner meh, Morrison trash, who else?
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Keep for emergency only, not playing regular games.
Sustain one more or even half season for heavy injuries period

Like u said la, since won't be great player anyway.
Loan out for what, keep for emergency, and sell next season la.
Right?

Of cuz la, that is provided if no new senior players coming in.
If there is, then I have little opinion at all loan out or even sell all those academy players.

May be a little bit disappointed, rather than "hyped", it is more like "our hope that the academy players can live up the expectations is broken one more time".

One more point, it is quite important to develop home grown player to 1st team due to the registration of 25 players squad rules and regulations.

Do u know why we sign back Evans?
Due to sport season? Certainly no.
Due to budget? Big Part of it.
Players registration reason? Another Part of it.

I don't think much fans know that, for 25 man squad registeration, the maximum foreign players is 17 players.
Under 21s players can just registered under U21.

Our club currently have already have 15/16 foreign players, depends on Hojlund is being registered as U21 or in 1st team 25 man squad.
It is considered very packed with little flexibility.
With more homegrown player, it will be more flexible.

So it is not about the fans hyped about academy players, it is about failed to develop our academy players to 1st team, meaning we need to use even more money to buy homegrown players from other clubs.

That is exactly why homegrown player is so expensive even for a soso player.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 30 2023, 02:07 PM)
has been a very2 long time since our academy have world class player... lol... not like man city or chelsea academy, produced more world class players these past few years...
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Greenwood and Ganarcho, even though not considered world class.
Can be considered no issue to play in big clubs.

Greenwood downfall is not due to sport reason.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 30 2023, 04:35 PM)
Keep for emergency only, not playing regular games.
Sustain one more or even half season for heavy injuries period

Like u said la, since won't be great player anyway.
Loan out for what, keep for emergency, and sell next season la.
Right?

Of cuz la, that is provided if no new senior players coming in.
If there is, then I have little opinion at all loan out or even sell all those academy players.

May be a little bit disappointed, rather than "hyped", it is more like "our hope that the academy players can live up the expectations is broken one more time".

One more point, it is quite important to develop home grown player to 1st team due to the registration of 25 players squad rules and regulations.

Do u know why we sign back Evans?
Due to sport season? Certainly no.
Due to budget? Big Part of it.
Players registration reason? Another Part of it.

I don't think much fans know that, for 25 man squad registeration, the maximum foreign players is 17 players.
Under 21s players can just registered under U21.

Our club currently have already have 15/16 foreign players, depends on Hojlund is being registered as U21 or in 1st team 25 man squad.
It is considered very packed with little flexibility.
With more homegrown player, it will be more flexible.

So it is not about the fans hyped about academy players, it is about failed to develop our academy players to 1st team, meaning we need to use even more money to buy homegrown players from other clubs.

That is exactly why homegrown player is so expensive even for a soso player.
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We are one of the best clubs that help academy players find a place if its not in our own team tho, we dont hold academy players to ransom.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 30 2023, 02:07 PM)
has been a very2 long time since our academy have world class player... lol... not like man city or chelsea academy, produced more world class players these past few years...
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Got… the last we got but board chose money > him

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Hope it is true.
Just no club wanna buy him, every club only dare to loan.
Accept the truth, get it done, and get a new midfielder.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 30 2023, 07:23 PM)


Hope it is true.
Just no club wanna buy him, every club only dare to loan.
Accept the truth, get it done, and get a new midfielder.
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Not .. yet .. rclxub.gif


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Amrabat keeps waiting for United.

Haha. Adoilah. If like this lah confirm kena sailang by other clubs 🤣
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so we jus waiting for VDB leave, then can cover for amrabat?
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city chelsea jus concluded deal for palmer in 2 days? talk about effeciency biggrin.gif liv going for gravenberch..
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..gravenberch is 21 what a bargain for liverpool .. meanwhile maguire staying and murtuogh still $hit just sack him ..lousy dof

kudus to west ham, gravenberch to liverpool .. what an amazing transfer
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Brighton loan Ansu Fati
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Aug 31 2023, 01:31 PM)
Brighton loan Ansu Fati
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Fffuuuuuu

Hes value will skyrocket again next season

Provided he doesnt suffer yet another career damaging ankle or knee injury
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see how whu, brighton doing in transfers make you wonder how ours can be so bad haha
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And we plan to loan amrabat... If not working, sure kena hentam for whole season... But amrabat is wad we need for now... His aggression will be working against strong possession based team.. as for striker, it seems eth fully satisfied
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Looking at how other clubs conduct their transfers, it has become quite obvious that our club is painfully behind in this aspect.

We now are dollar and diming our way through the final hours, even loan deals on targets we wanted to make. Did we not raise enough cash with the club now citing FFP?

West Ham came back for Maguire. This time, the club turned the offer down.
West Ham has offered 30M for McTominay earlier in the window, club turned down the offer.

Amrabat is the name I am hoping we bring over. But the way it has been conducted, it's not been good. And really, one of the reasons I am hoping for a Qatari sale is so that the current current club management is thrown out and we get proper people put in.

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all our transfer sounded so complicated.
Partly because Glazer do not inject a penny in at all, but it is also our player seems to be so cheap, that every sales do not generate ant significant fund

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all our transfer sounded so complicated.
Partly because Glazer do not inject a penny in at all, but it is also our player seems to be so cheap, that every sales do not generate ant significant fund
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now waiting vdb to leave to free up salary
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Aug 31 2023, 12:31 PM)
Brighton loan Ansu Fati
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out of nowhere. jus concluded like that dayum
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henderson deal suppose bring in some profit, but we still dont have enough to sign players..

now waiting vdb to leave to free up salary
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Its just an excuse larh ...we dont really have FFP issue.
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Really? Power ni.

Meanwhile we no activity lol
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Maguire and philips in england team.. power southgate haha
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Reguilon most likely since MU want to loan half season

Palhinha to Bayern, Fulham I think will enter the race again for Amrabat

Fati to Brighton, Brighton covered 80% of his salary


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Why wasn't loan half season only tf.. might as well get for squad depth
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Pot 1: MANCHESTER CITY, Sevilla, Barcelona, Napoli, Bayern Munich, Paris St-Germain, Benfica, Feyenoord

Pot 2: Real Madrid, MANCHESTER UNITED, Inter Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, RB Leipzig, Porto, ARSENAL

Pot 3: Shakhtar Donetsk, Salzburg, AC Milan, Braga, PSV Eindhoven, Lazio, Red Star Belgrade, FC Copenhagen

Pot 4: Young Boys, Real Sociedad, Galatasaray, CELTIC, NEWCASTLE UNITED, Union Berlin, Royal Antwerp, RC Lens
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Aug 31 2023, 11:59 PM)
Pot 1: MANCHESTER CITY, Sevilla, Barcelona, Napoli, Bayern Munich, Paris St-Germain, Benfica, Feyenoord

Pot 2: Real Madrid, MANCHESTER UNITED, Inter Milan, Borussia Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, RB Leipzig, Porto, ARSENAL

Pot 3: Shakhtar Donetsk, Salzburg, AC Milan, Braga, PSV Eindhoven, Lazio, Red Star Belgrade, FC Copenhagen

Pot 4: Young Boys, Real Sociedad, Galatasaray, CELTIC, NEWCASTLE UNITED, Union Berlin, Royal Antwerp, RC Lens
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Sevilla, united, red star, young boys....
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Sevilla, united, red star, young boys....
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Errr... NOT Sevilla please.... reason is obvious laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Edit: So we will be meeting Harry Kane in group stage ohmy.gif

Group A
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Man Utd
FC Copenhagen
Galatasaray

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 1 2023, 12:04 AM)
Errr... NOT Sevilla please.... reason is obvious  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Edit: So we will be meeting Harry Kane in group stage  ohmy.gif

Group A
FC Bayern
Man Utd
FC Copenhagen
Galatasaray

Group B
Sevilla
Arsenal
PSV
RC Lens

Group C
Napoli
Real Madrid
SC Braga
Union Berlin

Group D
Benfica
Inter Milan
FC Salzburg
Real Sociedad

Group E
Feyenoord
Atletico Madrid
Lazio
Celtic

Group F
PSG
B.Dortmund
AC Milan
Newcastle

Group G
Man City
RB Leipzig
Red Star Belgrade
BSC Young Boys

Group H
Barcelona
FC Porto
S. Donetsk
Royal Antwerp
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Group A
FC Bayern
Man Utd
FC Copenhagen
Galatasaray

Not bad. But I don’t think we can manage with this team 🤣

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fulham come get mctominay or vdb la. u need a midfielder!
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Sep 1 2023, 06:58 AM)
Tough group weih
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Garnacho 17
Hoiland 11

Why Varane don’t want take number 4?

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So who did we get? Did we get anyone?
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 1 2023, 09:37 AM)
So who did we get? Did we get anyone?
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Yes we loan someone who once trolled AWB during Europa semi final but he was not playing for almost 1 year

Easy money for Spurs now
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 1 2023, 09:59 AM)
Yes we loan someone who once trolled AWB during Europa semi final but he was not playing for almost 1 year

Easy money for Spurs now
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Zero harm deal since it’s involve no loan fees to spurs
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Zero harm deal since it’s involve no loan fees to spurs
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With both 1st choice & backup LB out for awhile, we still need the cover (especially with news that Alvaro Fernandez might be leaving).
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 1 2023, 09:25 AM)
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Why Varane don’t want take number 4?
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Cursed 4... already keep injured. Take liao direct retire follow previous 4 owner
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Sergio Reguilon from Spurs to United. Loan.
Here we go.
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I'm actually angry at the club if we miss Amrabat, considering how much he's stuck his neck out for us.
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Always use FFP as an excuse… why so scare about FFP? Just fking break the FFP and get Amrabat 20M

UEFA won’t dare to ban us one… they want only money, x number of fine and UEFA will said thank you


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Lazio explore the possible to sign Greenwood, now waiting Sarri ball for the final decision
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we did amrabat dirty
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we did amrabat dirty
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And now Fulham submitted a bid too for him doh.gif
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Other club keep improve everything from players to management to scout to negotiation to sell to buy..even with manager like howie and de zerbie..they can play beautiful football..and while our manutd makin jatuh..hurmmm..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 1 2023, 01:24 PM)
I'm actually angry at the club if we miss Amrabat, considering how much he's stuck his neck out for us.
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Hoping our new turkish goalkeeper can be a midfielder for us 🤣
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Fingers crossed..apparently we submitted another bid & personal terms agreed. Up to Fiorentina now.
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quite sure we get amrabat. late better than never biggrin.gif

vdb , bailly, should be leaving tonight too. cukup cover amrabat salary
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 1 2023, 09:25 AM)
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Hoiland 11

Why Varane don’t want take number 4?
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almost forgot we had number 11. Who had it after Giggs? I have no recollection.. Giggs had it for the longest time..
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almost forgot we had number 11. Who had it after Giggs? I have no recollection.. Giggs had it for the longest time..
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Greenwood
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windows belum close?
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 1 2023, 11:44 AM)
Cursed 4... already keep injured. Take liao direct retire follow previous 4 owner
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 1 2023, 05:21 PM)
almost forgot we had number 11. Who had it after Giggs? I have no recollection.. Giggs had it for the longest time..
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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Sep 1 2023, 05:24 PM)
Greenwood
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Martial?

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Martial?
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Giggs > Januzaj > Martial > Greenwood > Hoiland
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Giggs > Januzaj > Martial > Greenwood > Hoiland
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Nottingham Forest are closing in on deal to sign Ibrahim Sangaré from PSV! It’s close on €36/37m wtf why this kind of club can buy these type of players in cheap but not murtough?? seriously this club is a joke!

stupid DOF so stupid
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Cursed 4... already keep injured. Take liao direct retire follow previous 4 owner
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4 reserved for this guy maybe?

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 1 2023, 07:35 PM)
Nottingham Forest are closing in on deal to sign Ibrahim Sangaré from PSV! It’s close on €36/37m wtf why this kind of club can buy these type of players in cheap but not murtough?? seriously this club is a joke!

stupid DOF so stupid
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Nottingham Forest are closing in on deal to sign Ibrahim Sangaré from PSV! It’s close on €36/37m wtf why this kind of club can buy these type of players in cheap but not murtough?? seriously this club is a joke!

stupid DOF so stupid
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Finally amrabat is here... Luckily didn't pay 100mil last season... Haiz... Later the transfer team sure say its because their strategy works... Purposely make fiorentina desperate... 🤣
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finally fabrizio already announced sofian amrabat "here we go"
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Vdb better leave, otherwise he reli nt much playing chance here frankly speaking... He is behind even mctom in the midfield starting order
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finally fabrizio already announced sofian amrabat "here we go"
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Amrabat finally!
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Not said 21M GBP ke, now total 30M GBP pula.
But it is no obligation to buy, so if not ngam, can choose not to buy.

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Not said 21M GBP ke, now total 30M GBP pula.
But it is no obligation to buy, so if not ngam, can choose not to buy.
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I think that price is in EUR
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It's been more than 2 seasons since.
Judging by the transfer results and building the team, I say our DOF John Murtough isn't up to par. Ultimately, regardless of which team negotiates or executes the transfers, he is responsible.
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Any chance for one final raid?

Matt Hargreaves power, fly to Italy terus close deal… that Murtough last year can’t even convince’s a MILF 😂😂😂
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Anyway, I predict Amrabat will not be replacement for Casemiro but will be lineup midfielder together with Casemiro and Bruno.

The combination between Mount and Casemiro + Bruno is just not working at all.

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But but.. who's going to score the goals?
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But but.. who's going to score the goals?
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Anyway, I predict Amrabat will not be replacement for Casemiro but will be lineup midfielder together with Casemiro and Bruno.

The combination between Casemiro and Bruno is just not working at all.
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It’s working, Bruno playing deeper much more comfortable to playing wide or false 9

Now with Amrabat, ETH most likely will shift back to 2 DM, or double 6 with Bruno push up behind striker again

When attack, either Reguilon or AWB will move into that DM role, either Case or Amrabat will push up double 8 with Bruno
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Sergio Reguilon has joined Manchester United on loan from Tottenham Hotspur until June 2024.

The 26-year-old has played 230 games for clubs including Real Madrid, Sevilla, Tottenham Hotspur and Atletico Madrid, and won six caps for Spain.

Reguilon has won the Europa League and FIFA Club World Cup.

Sergio Reguilon said:

“In life you have to be ready for everything and the chance to represent this great club with such an illustrious history is one that I could not turn down.
“Having spoken to the manager, I know what he needs from me, and I am ready to play my part in helping the team to achieve success.

“I know that I can contribute to Manchester United this season; I am ready to fight for this group and show everyone my qualities.”

John Murtough, Manchester United Football Director, said:

“Once it became clear that we needed to bring in another left-back we assessed a number of targets and acted quickly to sign Sergio. He possesses all the required qualities to help us achieve our aims this season.

“He has good experience in both the Premier League and in European competitions, so he is ready to come into the squad and perform straight away.”


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Erik ten Hag has confirmed that Rasmus Hojlund is fit and ready to face Arsenal in Manchester United's Premier League clash on Sunday.

The Denmark international has not yet featured for the Reds, after arriving in Manchester with a small injury sustained during pre-season training with former club Atalanta.

But ahead of United's trip to Arsenal on Sunday (16:30 BST), the boss confirmed that Rasmus will be available for selection against the Gunners.

"Yes, he's had a good training week," said Erik. "Tomorrow we will have a final training session but he's doing well, he's responding well," said Erik.

"So, yeah, he'll be available for Sunday's game. I think he's ready to start."

Ten Hag was also asked in Friday's media briefing about the new signing we announced this morning, Altay Bayindir, and whether the Turkish goalkeeper is in contention for the clash at the Emirates Stadium too.

"He will be in the squad as well, Altay," confirmed the boss.

"So, [we're] happy we have the goalkeeper group fully there.

"I think we have a very good keeper group with the arrival of Altay."

Amad, Tom Heaton, Tyrell Malacia, Kobbie Mainoo, Luke Shaw and Mason Mount all remain out of the weekend's match due to injury.


https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/team-...-september-2023
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Suddenly midfield is more than enough if everyone fits - Case, Eriksen, Bruno, Mount, Amrabat, Mainoo, McTom….VDB if he still there plus Hannibal as ETH doesn’t want to loan him out
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Fuuuu. Finally got Amrabat. Kudos for him on dying to join
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Lai Lai another striker pls
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No club will sell their main (or even backup?) striker this late and if we do another Weghorst kind of deal then fans will still make noise.

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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag confirmed that Sergio Reguilon has trained with the Reds, when speaking shortly before the Spaniard's loan signing was announced.

In his press conference to preview Sunday's Premier League match against Arsenal, Ten Hag was asked about Reguilon, who has been heavily linked with the Reds in recent days following the injuries to Luke Shaw and Tyrell Malacia.

"He is here, he trained," replied the Dutchman.

Erik revealed that the former Real Madrid left-back will be available for Sunday's trip to the Emirates Stadium, and elaborated on what he believes Sergio will bring to his team.

"He is a very experienced player, a player for big clubs, a player that's played already a lot of games in La Liga, in the Premier League," he explained.

"So, he has a very good background, we have seen he can play very intense football, so we are happy.

"While we had a problem with Luke Shaw injured, Ty[rell] Malacia injured, they are, for [the] long term, out, so I think we responded very well in that emergency situation."


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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag has explained why we have signed Altay Bayindir.

It was confirmed on Friday morning that the goalkeeper has joined until June 2027, with the option of a further year, subject to international clearance.

Last season, 25-year-old Bayindir played an important role as Fenerbahce won the Turkish Cup and finished second in the Super Lig. He proudly becomes our first-ever player from Turkey.

Speaking in a press conference to preview Sunday’s Premier League blockbuster against Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium, Ten Hag discussed the process that led to Altay becoming a Red.

“Yeah, we followed him, scouted him very intensely and we think he has the skills to fit in Man United, to fit in English football,” the manager told journalists at Carrington.

“So, we are really glad that we signed him and we are confident that he will make a lot of progress in the coming period in the coming years and he will be a huge contribution to our game.”
Bayindir has already trained with his new United team-mates and Ten Hag has confirmed he will be in the squad to face Arsenal in London this weekend.


https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/ten-h...-altay-bayindir

Sort of expected, with Varane's injury....



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here we go evanssss lol

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here we go evanssss lol

dayum mctominay nearly go fulham
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Welcome back Evans. Seems salah will be gone soon.

Fati to Brighton really power coup. Don't understand why vdb become unwanted. Even eth can't revive him? Or he is 1 season wonder
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Evans better than Maguire. Haha. Gila Maguire choose to stay.
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let him rot on bench. goodluck to him
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So VDB is staying? So does Bailly?
Oh my ....

VDB won't even make it to bench.
Bailly won't even be registered into 25 man squad.

Wage putih2 give ...

I still think that the only way to make VDB at least useful, is to try playing him as false 9.
If still not working, then really only can putih2 pay wage.

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McTom didn’t join Fulham cause Fulham recall back Palhinha 😂😂😂 that guy done medical and even photo shooting but to inform fly back to Fulham 🤣🤣🤣 kesian him
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Not sure why our board like to sign players on loan nowadays... sweat.gif
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Greenwood loan deal only? Not permanent? Support him some more.
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Greenwood loan deal only? Not permanent? Support him some more.
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considering the shit decision the club made on him, i think this is the best we can do for him.
but, let say he is banging goals like nobody business in spain, will the club make a uturn?

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Because Manchester United cannot afford to buy.
Footballing team need to find ways to still bring in the players we need. This is what happens when we have parasites as owners.


How would you grade our transfer team performance this summer?
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How would you grade our transfer team performance this summer?
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The ways we have done our business securing those targets = B-
Efficiency in clearing those deadwoods = C (Maguire, Bailly, VDB still here)


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Manchester United left-back Alvaro Fernandez has completed a season-long loan move to La Liga side Granada CF.

Fernandez, 20, spent last season on loan in the Championship with Preston North End, developing greatly, and will now look to do the same back in his native Spain.

Alvaro was part of the first team's pre-season preparations this summer and started against Leeds, Lyon, Wrexham and Athletic Bilbao. He provided the assist for Marc Jurado's goal against Wrexham in San Diego.


https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/alvar...-september-2023

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I blame Southgate for the Maguire conundrum. I’m English & in a top 6 team so must be selected. Look at Ward Prowse. Brilliant form & yet Kalvin Philips got chosen over him.

Just hope england crash & burn in the next tournament.
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I blame Southgate for the Maguire conundrum. I’m English & in a top 6 team so must be selected. Look at Ward Prowse. Brilliant form & yet Kalvin Philips got chosen over him.

Just hope england crash & burn in the next tournament.
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Totally echo what I want to say.

Sorry England. But England won't go far anyway with coach and preferences like this.
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Greenwood loan deal only? Not permanent? Support him some more.
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This is a bit more better than just releasing him because of the feminazis. Good luck Greenwood and I hope he will come back to our club as a better player, better person and a responsible and loving dad.
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In terms of securing what ETH wanted as our main targets = A-
The ways we have done our business securing those targets = B-
Efficiency in clearing those deadwoods = C (Maguire, Bailly, VDB still here)
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I'm in line with your grades too. Overall it feels like a B-.
The fact that we usually leave things till deadline day needs to change.

Southgate giving Maguire a free pass into the national team sets a negative precedent.
Players can continue not playing and still get into the team. Don't see England progressing.

Greenwood I feel is an acceptable middle ground for now.
Let him leave on loan away from the bright lights and noise surrounding Manchester. Rebuild his career.
Give it a year for the noise to settle. If he does well, maybe then try to quietly bring him back into the squad.



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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 2 2023, 10:11 AM)
I blame Southgate for the Maguire conundrum. I’m English & in a top 6 team so must be selected. Look at Ward Prowse. Brilliant form & yet Kalvin Philips got chosen over him.

Just hope england crash & burn in the next tournament.
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Think Slabhead has nudes of Southgate. No way he can still be the first choice at current form.
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Not sure why our board like to sign players on loan nowadays... sweat.gif
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Why not?..is a better approach imo..can try out the player for a season before deciding to buy them permanently. Imagine players like Antony and VBD were just a loan player, already sent them back to their respective club, no need headache how to offload them

Sabitzer and weghorst perfect example
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 2 2023, 11:34 AM)
I'm in line with your grades too. Overall it feels like a B-.
The fact that we usually leave things till deadline day needs to change.

Southgate giving Maguire a free pass into the national team sets a negative precedent.
Players can continue not playing and still get into the team. Don't see England progressing.

Greenwood I feel is an acceptable middle ground for now.
Let him leave on loan away from the bright lights and noise surrounding Manchester. Rebuild his career.
Give it a year for the noise to settle. If he does well, maybe then try to quietly bring him back into the squad.
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imagine he scores like 20 league goals. then come back, and people still tries to push him out. dilemma dilemma
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How would you grade our transfer team performance this summer?
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If Amrabat performs well and become a fan favourite, l rate it B+. Else.... its just B.
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united's net spend this season is £124.5m, on par with arsenal, also at £124m.

we spent too much time on negotiation , drag n drag. but cant say the board didnt spend money this round. i blame the outgoings jus as much, if maguire n bailly left for some money, our net spend will be below £90m.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 2 2023, 11:39 AM)
Think Slabhead has nudes of Southgate. No way he can still be the first choice at current form.
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More like southgate is another glorified english coach. Dude has 0 credentials at football manager. Except wearing the suit. Again, similar traits of english football players, maguire.

Last english player worth the hype is rooney
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We got all the target we wanted. I would say B+ or A. B cause too slow. If didn't get Amrabat it will be C
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We got all the target we wanted. I would say B+ or A. B cause too slow. If didn't get Amrabat it will be C
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Hojlund a big gamble if we sign more establish striker will be A.
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Good luck, Juan!  biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Sep 2 2023, 10:15 AM)
Totally echo what I want to say.

Sorry England. But England won't go far anyway with coach and preferences like this.
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I shared the same view
as ex colony of UK, no surprised most of us loves PL (and its previous form)
but I never rate England highly in international football, and always felt their only WC is home ground luck and some fluke
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Casemiro
Mainoo
Amrabat
McTom

Eriksen
Bruno
Mount
VDB

Provided if no more outgoing (Turkish League transfer window still open), this will be our midfielders.

4 can play DM role, 4 cannot.

Can rule out VDB as he never adapted.
The issue is, so far Mount looks exactly like another VDB ...

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I'm expecting Amrabat to play deep and Casemiro to push forward along with Bruno. Casemiro is not bad going forward.
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I'm expecting Amrabat to play deep and Casemiro to push forward along with Bruno. Casemiro is not bad going forward.
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When attack both full back will be move in as inverted dm alongside Amrabat with Case push further up with Bruno supporting 3 attackers of Rash, Hoiland and Antony
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Forest beating Chelsea shows they are no pushover & our win last week was on merit.

On the other hand, just give the title to city already. They should be known as VARsity now.
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Elanga scored the only goal and helped Nottingham Forest to win against Chelsea.

Yet, he is exactly the one we have seen during his time in Manchester United.
His final decision is a disaster.

Nottingham Forest can score 2 more goals if not bcuz of his lousy final decision.
There is a reason why Ten Hag let him leave permanently.
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Chillax, fulham played without palninha je... If he is thr... They wont bolos so much
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Chillax, fulham played without palninha je... If he is thr... They wont bolos so much
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2nd, where is McTom? Gosh, he has been so injury prone recently.
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Most deluded people on the planet larh ....who gonna pay that when they can buy Spurs for less and they already have world class stadium
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I hope this isn't true but if it is, I'm gonna pray that we got relegated.
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Most deluded people on the planet larh ....who gonna pay that when they can buy Spurs for less and they already have world class stadium
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If the sales called off is true, then we are f**ked.

But nothing we can do about it, only the fans there can influence it.

I guess last season UEFA qualification and mickey mouse cup is a curse after all.
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If the sales called off is true, then we are f**ked.

But nothing we can do about it, only the fans there can influence it.

I guess last season UEFA qualification and mickey mouse cup is a curse after all.
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No fans can influence anything, Glazers already said they dont care.
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Kesian la De Gea. I do feel we did him dirty 🥹

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Kesian la De Gea. I do feel we did him dirty 🥹

Golden glove, a trophy and UCL qualification last season but no club this season 😢
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 3 2023, 12:17 PM)
He still can join Saudi club later right? Transfer window still open? Hope he gets a club soon or some club would offer him to train with them at least.
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If the sales called off is true, then we are f**ked.

But nothing we can do about it, only the fans there can influence it.

I guess last season UEFA qualification and mickey mouse cup is a curse after all.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Sep 3 2023, 11:35 AM)
No fans can influence anything, Glazers already said they dont care.
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If fans replicate the mass protest that we saw in the aftermath of the Super League, public pressure may force their hand.
Of course if the Glazers dig in, the only lever left is the economic lever. To starve the club's income from fans.


On tonight's game against Arsenal away from home, a point for me is good.
We are expected to lose this one on paper. Don't anyone lose their marbles if we do end up losing.

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QUOTE(zidane28 @ Sep 3 2023, 11:29 AM)
If the sales called off is true, then we are f**ked.

But nothing we can do about it, only the fans there can influence it.

I guess last season UEFA qualification and mickey mouse cup is a curse after all.
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The only way we can survive is become another Barca, only relying on free transfer and loan.
Then sell the players came in via free players, to get money.

The problem is, there is already Barca.
So we can only get players worse then Barca ...

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Sep 3 2023, 03:36 PM)
The only way we can survive is become another Barca, only relying on free transfer and loan.
Then sell the players came in via free players, to get money.

The problem is, there is already Barca.
So we can only get players worse then Barca ...
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I rmb there was news he changed agent somewhere around last year or early this year.
The new agent is really mediocre then, he failed to advise his client what is the best option.
What made it worse, he advised the worst option.

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Hate to see Declan Rice plays against us today.

We were top favourite to sign Declan Rice for so many transfer windows and somehow lost this player to Arsenal.

We should have signed more young talented players if our owners are ambitious enough.


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Hate to see Declan Rice plays against us today.

We were top favourite to sign Declan Rice for so many transfer windows and somehow lost this player to Arsenal.

We should have signed more young talented players if our owners are ambitious enough.
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Hah ... ?
Every transfer windows we are linked to top players.
The fact is majority of the players never even wanted to come to us.
FDJ, Mbappe, Neymar, Rice are one of those.

I never convinced Rice wanna join us.

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Hate to see Declan Rice plays against us today.

We were top favourite to sign Declan Rice for so many transfer windows and somehow lost this player to Arsenal.

We should have signed more young talented players if our owners are ambitious enough.
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Not sure can say united were fav to sign Rice before.. monitoring and interested yes but so is other top PL team

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Evan ferguson look very promising future top player.. at 18 he already look physically ready. The way he play last nite also look matured remind me of rooney. Can see he be brighton next top sale next season.. wonder where
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Kesian la De Gea. I do feel we did him dirty 🥹

Golden glove, a trophy and UCL qualification last season but no club this season 😢
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 3 2023, 01:29 PM)
If fans replicate the mass protest that we saw in the aftermath of the Super League, public pressure may force their hand.
Of course if the Glazers dig in, the only lever left is the economic lever. To starve the club's income from fans.
On tonight's game against Arsenal away from home, a point for me is good.
We are expected to lose this one on paper. Don't anyone lose their marbles if we do end up losing.
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Well I can't watch a game expecting to lose. Sure rage if play like shit.

Anyway it's still 50/50 ball game for me. That's eth vibe for now. Rr and Moyes, belum buka tv, already expect lose
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Well I can't watch a game expecting to lose. Sure rage if play like shit.

Anyway it's still 50/50 ball game for me. That's eth vibe for now. Rr and Moyes, belum buka tv, already expect lose
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That's the fun part.

On paper, it's Arsenal to win. So we get to walk in with lowered expectations and seeing if we pull anything too. I'm expecting Arsenal to have most possession here so our fast transitions will be important. Rashford is the key player. I'm sure Arteta will be looking out for the outlet ball to Rashford.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 3 2023, 06:17 PM)
Well no one bid him at all. Guess his performance really didn't even attract bottom tier clubs. He was good. Unfortunately.
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Other clubs will look at his previous contract… 375k salary already enough to scare them off LOL
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Sep 3 2023, 05:57 PM)
Hah ... ?
Every transfer windows we are linked to top players.
The fact is majority of the players never even wanted to come to us.
FDJ, Mbappe, Neymar, Rice are one of those.

I never convinced Rice wanna join us.
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Maybe Declan Rice prefers to stay at London?

But still sad to see Rice chose Arsenal over us... sad.gif


Manchester United are accelerating their summer transfer plans and hold an interest in signing West Ham captain Declan Rice.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tra...ansfer-30074578

ALL HANDS ON DEC Man Utd set to rival Arsenal in Declan Rice transfer race as Ten Hag makes England star ‘number one’ target
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22297671/man...nsfer-west-ham/

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 3 2023, 06:23 PM)
That's the fun part.

On paper, it's Arsenal to win. So we get to walk in with lowered expectations and seeing if we pull anything too. I'm expecting Arsenal to have most possession here so our fast transitions will be important. Rashford is the key player. I'm sure Arteta will be looking out for the outlet ball to Rashford.
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Yes, I watched their last game vs Fulham, they still the same Arsenal but can’t capitalised the chances

Well first half martial second half Hoiland, big NO NO Rashford playing CF
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 3 2023, 06:10 PM)
Evan ferguson look very promising future top player.. at 18 he already look physically ready. The way he play last nite also look matured remind me of rooney. Can see he be brighton next top sale next season.. wonder where
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Only Michael Owen (28), Wayne Rooney (15) and Francis Jeffers (12) scored more Premier League goals before their 19th birthday than Ferguson. Owen went on to win the Ballon d'Or and Rooney broke the Manchester United and England goalscoring records.

Owen, Robbie Fowler and the late Chris Bart-Williams are the only other players to hit a Premier League hat-trick at his age.

Throw in assists and Ferguson, with his 10 goals and two assists, joins Spaniard Cesc Fabregas (with five goals and 10 assists) as the only foreign players to have reached double figures in the Premier League while aged 18 or under.

Last season Ferguson netted 10 goals in 25 Brighton games in all competitions - and this season, despite being on the bench on the opening day, he has four goals in four games.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66698759

But looking at the selling price for their recent transfers, it is going to be another >100mil price tag to even tempt them for selling.
Not to mention with those $ they received from the recent transfer fees, they have no need to sell laugh.gif

QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Sep 3 2023, 06:25 PM)
Maybe Declan Rice prefers to stay at London?

But still sad to see Rice should Arsenal over us... sad.gif
Manchester United are accelerating their summer transfer plans and hold an interest in signing West Ham captain Declan Rice.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tra...ansfer-30074578

ALL HANDS ON DEC Man Utd set to rival Arsenal in Declan Rice transfer race as Ten Hag makes England star ‘number one’ target
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22297671/man...nsfer-west-ham/
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Those are some of the most unreliable sources to believe in biggrin.gif
Whole world knows we needed a striker + midfielder + GK with limited budget. No way we will spend that for 1 player. Not to mention that Rice himself wanted Arsenal.

https://www.90min.com/posts/declan-rice-exp...to-join-arsenal

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 3 2023, 06:32 PM)
If he continues to develop, just a matter of time that one of the big boys will come knocking on their door.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66698759

But looking at the selling price for their recent transfers, it is going to be another >100mil price tag to even tempt them for selling.
Not to mention with those $ they received from the recent transfer fees, they have no need to sell  laugh.gif
Those are some of the most unreliable sources to believe in  biggrin.gif
Whole world knows we needed a striker + midfielder + GK with limited budget. No way we will spend that for 1 player. Not to mention that Rice himself wanted Arsenal.

https://www.90min.com/posts/declan-rice-exp...to-join-arsenal
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Evan Ferguson and the one Spurs get from Forest, B. Johnson, these 2 will be next England upcoming stars

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 3 2023, 06:45 PM)
Evan Ferguson and the one Spurs get from Forest, B. Johnson, these 2 will be next England upcoming stars
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Evan Ferguson is Irish biggrin.gif

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For that you need competent football people ..we dont have that.
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This.

We only need to see how Man City does it. They evaluate the weakest portions of their squad. DOF then works with Pep on his tactical changes for the coming season and what profiles fit. Then they have a list which the transfer team goes in, agree 9n the price and done. Rarely any drama.

That's how a proper football club does it.
Sometimes I wouldn't be surprised if our rivals had secretly infiltrated the club and put their people to sabotage things. Or if the Glazers are actually the richest Liverpool fans in the world.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 3 2023, 07:08 PM)
This.

We only need to see how Man City does it. They evaluate the weakest portions of their squad. DOF then works with Pep on his tactical changes for the coming season and what profiles fit. Then they have a list which the transfer team goes in, agree 9n the price and done. Rarely any drama.

That's how a proper football club does it.
Sometimes I wouldn't be surprised if our rivals had secretly infiltrated the club and put their people to sabotage things. Or if the Glazers are actually the richest Liverpool fans in the world.
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Martial injured
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Why Antony kena boo?
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Our midfield kinda look soft against ars

Not sure if Eriksen + Casemiro is a good idea
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Sep 3 2023, 11:47 PM)
Our midfield kinda look soft against ars

Not sure if Eriksen + Casemiro is a good idea
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It’s never been a good choice when playing a team who pressed. Forest hardly press that’s why Eriksen was good last match
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We cant even keep the ball what nonsense is this
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We cant even keep the ball what nonsense is this
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Players confidence… u see ETH reaction

They don’t even want to play short and slowly built, anything just whack long cross
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Players confidence… u see ETH reaction

They don’t even want to play short and slowly built, anything just whack long cross
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Supposedly Onana is here to solve this problem

But for this match seems like ntg changes …

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We cant even keep the ball what nonsense is this
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This game is one we cede possession to Arsenal, who is the better possession side.
My guess is that we try get to halftime 0-0, then we catch them second half.
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This game is one we cede possession to Arsenal, who is the better possession side.
My guess is that we try get to halftime 0-0, then we catch them second half.
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Too big gap / hole in the middle of the park now … they need to be more compact and tighter
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Anthony Taylor can’t control this situation LOL

Only Onana touch most of the ball

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 3 2023, 11:54 PM)
This game is one we cede possession to Arsenal, who is the better possession side.
My guess is that we try get to halftime 0-0, then we catch them second half.
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Yes, Rashford
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This is where Rashford good at… don’t let him play CF LOL
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It's a good game for both sides.
Arsenal trying to maintain control. United trying to suck Arsenal in for the break.
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It's a good game for both sides.
Arsenal trying to maintain control. United trying to suck Arsenal in for the break.
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Now I see why harvertz kena bashed lol. Eriksen hero jadi zero so fast
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Rice is quite quiet. Only see him at the end of the half.
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Let’s see second half our midfield

Case, Bruno, Eriksen

vs Arsenal midfielder

Rice, Havertz, Odegaard

I think Arsenal midfielders more younger and will have advantage towards last quarter of 2nd half
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Onana's ability to attract pressure and pass out is incredible.
One or two instances made my heart jump, but he got the pass away and still managed to find our player.
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I can we can clearly see what Onana can bring.
Onana is not an upgrade but he does provide something totally different.
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We don’t have a backup CM now to step up replace Eriksen… Eriksen is totally gone
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Welcome back Maguire Lindelof pairing LOL
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The legend cb pairing is back

Good luck guys
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Harry Maguire!!!
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and we are back with that pairing
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WTF twice in 2 games yellow for time wasting???
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New rules… 6 seconds if not straight yellow
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 4 2023, 12:58 AM)
and we are back with that pairing
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New rules… 6 seconds if not straight yellow
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last game got 2nd ball in play... this week dont know what he wait for..
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 4 2023, 12:59 AM)
That’s why Maguire want to stay… cuz he confidence he will play LOL
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This hoiland looks promising
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lel maguire always clear the ball with no purpose
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 4 2023, 01:14 AM)
lel maguire always clear the ball with no purpose
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lel maguire always clear the ball with no purpose
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 4 2023, 01:15 AM)
Better than twist twist twist then lost possession
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better clear than passing bro.. u want him to pass to Arsenal?
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Regardless of who wins, this has been an enthralling game.
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17 Garnacho
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Shit offside
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unlucky...damn....
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Bye bye… another last min
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what the hell...last minute..shit...
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Evans jittery since sub in. Haih
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glass man team...doesnt matter who the club signed, all easy pecah...and revert back to deadwood, so basically no difference than ole's era,,LULZ
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Maguire + Evan stand there like fridge.
Onana beaten at near post. Geeerr
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Lousy. Arteta 1. Eth 0.

Could have been different if garnacho run abit slower

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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 4 2023, 01:30 AM)
Maguire + Evan stand there like fridge.
Onana beaten at near post. Geeerr
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I don't think you can fault Onana for that one.
Deflection on the way through.
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poor .. just poor. spend all that money can't even draw arsenal. ptui
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Ok la.. good fight till the end. It seems like our biggest rival this season is injury.
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2nd times onana get beaten like tat .. suppose he is type that rush out to challenge
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all good until those 2 cb subs 😞
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Rank 11. Mid table team liao
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Heheheh.. kena layak..

Esok ramai pundit jadian taip berjela-jela buat karangan.

Kalah again. Life goes on.
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it's ok...his legs would have tremble seeing all the arsenal's attacker
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Regroup tomorrow.
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QUOTE(mihina69 @ Sep 4 2023, 01:35 AM)
it's ok...his legs would have tremble seeing all the arsenal's attacker
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His legs will only tremble seeing Maguire on the pitch.
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Deflated shot always hard but declan given too much space there
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This time truly players quality, nothing to do with Ten Hag tactical plan. Tactical plan is correct in this match.
With slightly better players, we will get 1 point.

Evans + Maguire truly caused the losing of 2 points.

McTom as well, always injured when the team need him the most, but not satisfied Ten Hag not playing him more.
How can we rely on u when u are the one who always injured when u are not even playing.

Maguire not leaving also another reason, he can't blame the hating from own fans.

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Still our decision making is our arch enemies.
Varane injured
Martinez injured
Lindelof maybe ? Because he hold his chest.

Arsenal flanker, can cross, can cut inside, can dribble.
Man utd flanker?
Rashford and others only know how to cut inside cant cross.
Anthony? Please get ban because of the court issue .. i never hate players so much like Anthony.

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Better game play in 2nd half
1st half only the goal is ok
Other time seen like MF totally empty.

Too bad need to sub Evan+maguire in
Def start shake once sun in
Most kesian to AWB
After suffer so long time contain martinelli then come maguire+Evan

Hojlund look promising with his speed + ball holding
Martial can join maguire in the bench.
Martial totally soulless in the game. Useless
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the midfield cannot control game till arsenal attack way too much..stressing the defenders and forcing substitution
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 4 2023, 01:38 AM)
Deflated shot always hard but declan given too much space there
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Arsenal use their body to block player to create space for teammate
While Man Utd player are Jz standing when teammate are holding ball.

Can’t blame Onana for the goal but how could totally empty at the back.
1st time got lucky.
2nd time got punish.
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But tbh, our injury list too long.
It is already become crisis.

Heaton
Varane
Martinez
Lindelof
Shaw
Malacia
Mainoo
Mount
McTom
Mount
Sancho
Amad

Gosh, 12 players!
Incoming international break actually helping us, not much, but better then nothing.
Ten Hag won't even be able to setup a proper tactical plan with this injury list.

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QUOTE(Darren @ Sep 4 2023, 01:43 AM)
Arsenal use their body to block player to create space for teammate
While Man Utd player are Jz standing when teammate are holding ball.

Can’t blame Onana for the goal but how could totally empty at the back.
1st time got lucky.
2nd time got punish.
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Everything is fine until Maguire and Evans as CB pairs.
Maguire already slow, with Evans even slower.
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didnt watch the game.
what happened? heard that evans and maguire play to lose at the end ..last minute with 2 slowest defender playing high line,..issit true? lulz
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I really hope the management see how they have wrongly managed the Maguire transfer incident.
West Ham already bid 30M, Maguire is ok to leave as long as we pay the 6M salary difference.

Gosh, pay the 6M, get the 24M and get a new CB.
Then we won't stuck with Maguire.

Yes, there is FFP.
But sometimes FFP need to be sacrificed, especially for Maguire case.

This time I blame the management.
There is a team wanna spend money to buy Maguire, and we just missed it.
We supposed to make it happen at all cost.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Sep 4 2023, 01:40 AM)
This time truly players quality, nothing to do with Ten Hag tactical plan. Tactical plan is correct in this match.
With slightly better players, we will get 1 point.

Evans + Maguire truly caused the losing of 2 points.

McTom as well, always injured when the team need him the most, but not satisfied Ten Hag not playing him more.
How can we rely on u when u are the one who always injured when u are not even playing.

Maguire not leaving also another reason, he can't blame the hating from own fans.
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Harsh to blame evans maguire.. arsenal really pushing at the end. Midfielder should help more but no option to change also.. should sub out Eriksen for more defensive player
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 4 2023, 01:55 AM)
Harsh to blame evans maguire.. arsenal really pushing at the end. Midfielder should help more but no option to change also.. should sub out Eriksen for more defensive player
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No one available on the bench, all injured.
McTom, Mount, Mainoo all injured.

Only 2 academy midfielders, and they are not even defensive one.

As I said, it is more to injury crisis.

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Confirmed Lindelof is injured.
It was not a tactical subs.
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It is time to let Sancho go.
He is becoming another Dele Ali due to personal life issue.

Don't make the same mistake as we made in Maguire.
As I mentioned, FFP is important, but sometimes it need to be sacrificed.


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It is time to let Sancho go.
He is becoming another Dele Ali due to personal life issue.

Don't make the same mistake as we made in Maguire.
As I mentioned, FFP is important, but sometimes it need to be sacrificed.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Sep 4 2023, 01:55 AM)
Harsh to blame evans maguire.. arsenal really pushing at the end. Midfielder should help more but no option to change also.. should sub out Eriksen for more defensive player
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This was Fred's role. Who replaced him in the squad?
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The injury crisis is worrying, but I am quite positive in long term.
Last season against Arsenal, we won't even able control the ball properly, sikit2 kena press lost the ball.
But now we can handle the press, mostly thanks to Onana.
Well, still unable to bring the ball forward, but that is another issue to solve.

But as I mentioned, some stupid fans keep comparing DDG and him and some even mocking him.
I can understand rival fans doing the mocking, but own fans? Disgusting.

If u support DDG so much, go to support DDG and stop supporting Manchester United.
Keep saying DDG can save this save that.

We won't even able to control the ball, and will keep belasah by Arsenal and may be even lost more goals. Stupid DDG fans and Ten Hag haters.
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Try again, there will be one day we will stop our away form rot... Lets see what amrabat can bring to us... Hojlund cameo seems nice... Hopefully he can held the ball and link up plays
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Sep 4 2023, 05:59 AM)
I think there is misunderstanding between attitude issue and performance issue.
Ten Hag never say he has attitude issue, he said performance issue.
But out of sudden, media says it is attitude issue.

He has no attitude issue, but that doesn't guarantee performance standard.

He has been here 2 years, he never truly adapted to the team and league.
We see that, Ten Hag see that, everyone see that.
He is no where near the Dortmund version of him.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Sep 4 2023, 01:52 AM)
I really hope the management see how they have wrongly managed the Maguire transfer incident.
West Ham already bid 30M, Maguire is ok to leave as long as we pay the 6M salary difference.

Gosh, pay the 6M, get the 24M and get a new CB.
Then we won't stuck with Maguire.

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A correction here.

The club agreed to offer Maguire 6M to leave for West Ham.
Maguire came back and asked for 15M instead to leave. This is why the deal collapsed.
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Coming gamed we play maguire and evans? Tortoise cb lineup. Exciting gg
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Coming gamed we play maguire and evans? Tortoise cb lineup. Exciting gg
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reli wonder why we dont have a hungry young cb dying to perform and play from the youth team? must keep maguire and sign evans.. gonna be disaster the next few games if both tortoise playing
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hojlund got the haaland run , but if got proper winger there

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Sep 4 2023, 05:07 AM)
This was Fred's role. Who replaced him in the squad?
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if im not mistaken, ten hag really like mount tenacity and want him to play that role.
unfortunately he never was an 8 during his glorious tuchel era, he was a 10 with kante+jorginho behind him.
so nope, this is ten hag fault. totally on him. should have paid that sum to amrabat instead from the beginning.
mount = ten hag fault
amrabat = murtuogh fault

but now amrabat is here, shud be ok i think.

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frankly say, i kind of hate antony type of play....
the only good thing is he willing to track back to cover AWB....
but the spinning type of his play are delaying counter attack + frustrating to see....

rashford?
too self fish sometime....
i dont mind u go for own glory if the team are leading....
but when the game are tie, another goal will help the team more...
he almost like rukawa in slamdunk.....too 1sided n self fish....
if he willing to mix passing + dribble + his speed, he will more lethal..

first half game play are really frustrated to see....
MF almost invisible apart of the goal....
2nd half are more entertaining even though we lose the game....
but to have rely on maguire+evan, it really heartbreaking to see....
luckily there are break after this...hopefully more player back from injury....

well....
the game are better than my expectation except evan+maguire sub.. doh.gif
but hopefully ETH will encourage winger to pass more....
else hojlund will be another weghorst.....with more pace but no supply from MF
interesting to see when rashford partner hojlund...two pacey striker....... thumbup.gif
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Only watched first half last night.. the game is 5050 and added points is onana lindelof and awb press resistant.. comfortable passing among themselves.. completely diff from ddg and maguire case last time.. guess the 2nd half sub in 2 tortoise changed the game?
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 4 2023, 01:51 AM)
didnt watch the game.
what happened? heard that evans and maguire play to lose at the end ..last minute with 2 slowest defender playing high line,..issit true? lulz
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Let me sum it up for you.

- Team performance was good. Take the negativity with a pinch of salt as it comes with every loss. Even at 90 minutes, this game could have gone either side.
- It was our game plan to give possession to Arsenal for the first half and be more progressive second half.
- First half we baited Arsenal pressure on us to draw the up the pitch and then hit them on the space behind. Onana was really key in playing around the pressure. It worked as we got the first goal with the exact sort of breakaway we were looking for. Onana did really well.
- Second half we were more progressive. I think our offside goal was unfortunate.
- Honest Arsenal fans would tell you that this game was 50-50 right until the end. Entertaining.
- When we conceded against Rice, neither Maguire or Dalot moved to block Rice. He had a lot of time to get the shot off. Water under the bridge.
- If you don't look at the result, we played well to the game plan. We performed better here in a loss than we did at Wolves in a win.
- Third goal was a throwaway. We went all out looking for a goal.

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Sep 4 2023, 08:22 AM)
Coming gamed we play maguire and evans? Tortoise cb lineup. Exciting gg
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Injury list is now crazy.
We are left with Maguire-Evans. And the old horse Evans is the faster CB in that pairing.

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garnacho vs spurs ..now this
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 4 2023, 11:27 AM)
Injury list is now crazy.
We are left with Maguire-Evans. And the old horse Evans is the faster CB in that pairing.
We were never aiming for the title.
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the club, manager and players will always aim to win the title and every game and still are.
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how is this not a penalty?  hmm.gif

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garnacho vs spurs ..now this
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 4 2023, 10:41 AM)
if im not mistaken, ten hag really like mount tenacity and want him to play that role.
unfortunately he never was an 8 during his glorious tuchel era, he was a 10 with kante+jorginho behind him.
so nope, this is ten hag fault. totally on him. should have paid that sum to amrabat instead from the beginning.
mount = ten hag fault
amrabat = murtuogh fault

but now amrabat is here, shud be ok i think.
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can only think mount was in for the passport... if not with the limited cash should be amrabat first..
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QUOTE(cedriclee @ Sep 4 2023, 10:38 AM)
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United: you guys fight for title?
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At least challenge lo.. Now out of the race after 4 games. If City only drop 2 points in 8 games, the race is already over

All the hype of Ten Hag, with all the ruthless decision he's made, in the end same as Ole
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QUOTE(cedriclee @ Sep 4 2023, 12:21 PM)
At least challenge lo.. Now out of the race after 4 games. If City only drop 2 points in 8 games, the race is already over

All the hype of Ten Hag, with all the ruthless decision he's made, in the end same as Ole
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Yea man, lai change to who now? All are fraud anyway, keep on change je... Lol... Maybe get some unknown shit from Celtic like spurs?
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 4 2023, 11:14 AM)
Let me sum it up for you.

- Team performance was good. Take the negativity with a pinch of salt as it comes with every loss. Even at 90 minutes, this game could have gone either side.
- It was our game plan to give possession to Arsenal for the first half and be more progressive second half.
- First half we baited Arsenal pressure on us to draw the up the pitch and then hit them on the space behind. Onana was really key in playing around the pressure. It worked as we got the first goal with the exact sort of breakaway we were looking for. Onana did really well.
- Second half we were more progressive. I think our offside goal was unfortunate.
- Honest Arsenal fans would tell you that this game was 50-50 right until the end. Entertaining.
- When we conceded against Rice, neither Maguire or Dalot moved to block Rice. He had a lot of time to get the shot off. Water under the bridge.
- If you don't look at the result, we played well to the game plan. We performed better here in a loss than we did at Wolves in a win.
- Third goal was a throwaway. We went all out looking for a goal.
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we may be intended to be passive on 1st half

but we were lucky on few occasions for not conceding goals before we scored

there were gaping holes in the midfield and too much unforced errors

because of that I can't say we did well on 1st half

didn't watch second half so cant comment


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I think if Martinez-Lindelof was on, we may not have conceded that second goal.

Imagine if the club had just bought Amrabat and Pavard back in July and they could start yesterday. I don't think we would have been so desperate to fall back on Maguire and Evans.
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QUOTE(cedriclee @ Sep 4 2023, 12:21 PM)
At least challenge lo.. Now out of the race after 4 games. If City only drop 2 points in 8 games, the race is already over

All the hype of Ten Hag, with all the ruthless decision he's made, in the end same as Ole
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Challenge for title?..haha..queue behind the likes of brighton, wolves first
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Like I mentioned, our tactical plan actually have no issue in this match.
We even have chance to win the game.
Including the fine margin of Ganarcho offside goal.
We lost bcuz we forced to use our 4th and 5th choice of CB due to injuries.

With Amrabat coming in, and wait some players come back from injuries. We will slowly catch up.

Yet with so much injuries, even catching up later, I think we can only fight for top 6.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Sep 4 2023, 03:15 PM)


Like I mentioned, our tactical plan actually have no issue in this match.
We even have chance to win the game.
Including the fine margin of Ganarcho offside goal.
We lost bcuz we forced to use our 4th and 5th choice of CB due to injuries.

With Amrabat coming in, and wait some players come back from injuries. We will slowly catch up.

Yet with so much injuries, even catching up later, I think we can only fight for top 6.
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Season is still long way to go.

Still have those cup competitions, and expectations is still top 4.

On a side note, Jadon Sancho sounds like a brat after getting called out. If his performance week in, week out was average, then ok la to bite back. Ini, manager gave him 3 months last season with private sessions to get himself in a better state of mind, bila kena jentik sikit, mcm crybaby go to social media.

Useless. Hopefully he gets frozen out like Maguire and shipped off in January.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 4 2023, 01:31 PM)
I think if Martinez-Lindelof was on, we may not have conceded that second goal.

Imagine if the club had just bought Amrabat and Pavard back in July and they could start yesterday. I don't think we would have been so desperate to fall back on Maguire and Evans.
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If only maguire fakoff early then can get proper players.. lindelof looks v comfortable w the press and passinv.. except his yellow.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 4 2023, 11:14 AM)
Let me sum it up for you.

- Team performance was good. Take the negativity with a pinch of salt as it comes with every loss. Even at 90 minutes, this game could have gone either side.
- It was our game plan to give possession to Arsenal for the first half and be more progressive second half.
- First half we baited Arsenal pressure on us to draw the up the pitch and then hit them on the space behind. Onana was really key in playing around the pressure. It worked as we got the first goal with the exact sort of breakaway we were looking for. Onana did really well.
- Second half we were more progressive. I think our offside goal was unfortunate.
- Honest Arsenal fans would tell you that this game was 50-50 right until the end. Entertaining.
- When we conceded against Rice, neither Maguire or Dalot moved to block Rice. He had a lot of time to get the shot off. Water under the bridge.
- If you don't look at the result, we played well to the game plan. We performed better here in a loss than we did at Wolves in a win.
- Third goal was a throwaway. We went all out looking for a goal.
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To sum it up ...Zero points after taking a lead ..
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Tough times for United :

- Rumours that the sale is off. Meaning the parasites, I mean Glazers, will continue to stop the club from achieving anything.
- Rangnick once called out certain players for being toxic to the club. Those players are still here.
- Players we don't need remain at the club to tie up the wages. Club will not write them off so the manager needs to somehow carry them.
- What does Sancho do for 300k a week? What does Martial do for 250k per week? What does Maguire do for 180k per week?
- Latest drama involving Sancho.
- Injury list as long as my arm. New players Amrabat and Reguilon just in so have not integrated.

QUOTE(tontolou @ Sep 4 2023, 04:17 PM)
Season is still long way to go.

Still have those cup competitions, and expectations is still top 4.

On a side note, Jadon Sancho sounds like a brat after getting called out. If his performance week in, week out was average, then ok la to bite back. Ini, manager gave him 3 months last season with private sessions to get himself in a better state of mind, bila kena jentik sikit, mcm crybaby go to social media.

Useless. Hopefully he gets frozen out like Maguire and shipped off in January.
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On Jadon Sancho, my take on it is straightforward. But before that, some backstory :

- Sancho was given 3 months off mid-season last season. He got full support from the club, staff and the manager.
- On his return, he was re-integrated into the team at his own pace. Not rushed.
- Today, he released a full press statement against the manager.

ETH had just said Sancho wasn't part of the matchday squad because he hasn't been training well. This is perfectly valid for a manager to say. Nothing wrong
For Sancho to respond with a press statement is pure petulance. This is like Mou and Pogba all over again. Then the club sided with Pogba and see where it all ended up.

How did other club's handle this? Arsenal had such an issue with Arteta and then club captain Auba. Club took the tough option of backing the manager. Auba was shown the door and Arteta could rebuild the squad.

Sancho who had contributed close to nothing this season, and did not take any of the chances offered last season is coming off as a public crybaby.
I am of the opinion the club should back ETH by publicly fining Sancho heavily for his actions. Kill the drama. If ETH wants to stuff this guy in cold storage, club should support it.


But this is Manchester United and we are a commercial club. Perhaps the club values Maguire and Sancho above the manager if they don't.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 4 2023, 06:01 PM)
Tough times for United :

- Rumours that the sale is off. Meaning the parasites, I mean Glazers, will continue to stop the club from achieving anything.
- Rangnick once called out certain players for being toxic to the club. Those players are still here.
- Players we don't need remain at the club to tie up the wages. Club will not write them off so the manager needs to somehow carry them.
- What does Sancho do for 300k a week? What does Martial do for 250k per week? What does Maguire do for 180k per week?
- Latest drama involving Sancho.
- Injury list as long as my arm. New players Amrabat and Reguilon just in so have not integrated.
On Jadon Sancho, my take on it is straightforward. But before that, some backstory :

- Sancho was given 3 months off mid-season last season. He got full support from the club, staff and the manager.
- On his return, he was re-integrated into the team at his own pace. Not rushed.
- Today, he released a full press statement against the manager.

ETH had just said Sancho wasn't part of the matchday squad because he hasn't been training well. This is perfectly valid for a manager to say. Nothing wrong
For Sancho to respond with a press statement is pure petulance. This is like Mou and Pogba all over again. Then the club sided with Pogba and see where it all ended up.

How did other club's handle this? Arsenal had such an issue with Arteta and then club captain Auba. Club took the tough option of backing the manager. Auba was shown the door and Arteta could rebuild the squad.

Sancho who had contributed close to nothing this season, and did not take any of the chances offered last season is coming off as a public crybaby.
I am of the opinion the club should back ETH by publicly fining Sancho heavily for his actions. Kill the drama. If ETH wants to stuff this guy in cold storage, club should support it.
But this is Manchester United and we are a commercial club. Perhaps the club values Maguire and Sancho above the manager if they don't.
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On a serious note, Sancho memang sohai. Ten Hag didn't speak ill of him, just said because of "training performance", Sancho termakan cili rasa pedas shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 4 2023, 01:31 PM)
I think if Martinez-Lindelof was on, we may not have conceded that second goal.

Imagine if the club had just bought Amrabat and Pavard back in July and they could start yesterday. I don't think we would have been so desperate to fall back on Maguire and Evans.
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Hard to say

I think we might too.. i blame wingback or dmc/cm more on rice goal as someone should be closer to rice and CB position to remain centre of the box. Too much space there rice can chest the ball and got time freely make a shot. The goal also deflected..

But saka tame shot might not happen if martinez lindelof still there
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sooo...whats going to happen when onana goes to afcon? laugh.gif
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sooo...whats going to happen when onana goes to afcon?  laugh.gif
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Beli salah. Sancho and haaland stats similar in Dortmund. One is goal machine. Another assist + goal machine.

Now we bought a flop. If count money vs contribution, maybe Sancho flop more than Maguire. At least Maguire made it into first 11 by dunno how.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 5 2023, 12:07 AM)
Beli salah. Sancho and haaland stats similar in Dortmund. One is goal machine. Another assist + goal machine.

Now we bought a flop. If count money vs contribution, maybe Sancho flop more than Maguire. At least Maguire made it into first 11 by dunno how.
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Make me wonder, why players come to us and regress so much. Sancho is real talent at dortmund. Look at elanga, at forest he's so much wonderful player vs he at man utd.
Anthony martial, very skillful player also regress (maybe because injury record). Anthony fidget spinner next player.

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QUOTE(john_white @ Sep 5 2023, 08:52 AM)
Make me wonder, why players come to us and regress so much. Sancho is real talent at dortmund. Look at elanga, at forest he's so much wonderful player vs he at man utd.
Anthony martial, very skillful player also regress (maybe because injury record).  Anthony fidget spinner next player.
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Jual bailey keep maguire..
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i really wonder how could bailey worst than maguire+evan.....
let him leave at this moment really speechless....
hopefully martinez + varane injury not serious.....
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QUOTE(Darren @ Sep 5 2023, 10:34 AM)
i really wonder how could bailey worst than maguire+evan.....
let him leave at this moment really speechless....
hopefully martinez + varane injury not serious.....
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Cibai la this club.

Can't we go 1 day without a circus drama inside.

Now this Anthony thing came up out of nowhere.

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If we can't challenge the title this season, I rather see the club relegated so that glazers kasi jual.

This season performance so far has been erratic.
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QUOTE(mihina69 @ Sep 4 2023, 07:02 PM)
Still missed the hype when sancho joined...Here we gooooo!..lul
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that was 2020 we want a dortmund-version of sancho .. unfortunately we got him the spoiled-mental-koyak-version which got benched immediately by ole the fraud.
he lost both left and right wing spot. and the arrival of cr7 made the situation worse.


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We seem to have problems with English players, not all but majority of problems seems to be coming from them. I’m still reserving my opinion on MM.
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So Greenwood has a clause to come back in Jan. if Anthony were to get in deep shit. MU will have to recall greenwood then, or Pallestri will get a run of matches
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Looking at this, seems real coach also playing fantasy football. You bought wrong player, you are doomed. Ole bought Maguire Sancho, Diallo, Pellistri(Diallo Pellistri are good but dunno why no game time), VDB....gg. Jm bought Fred, Jogba, Sanchez, Lukaku (can't say he is wrong buy in his tenure though). Bought Imbrahovic, terus win trophy.

Eth now on Antony, MM. Arteta on Havetz. But Arteta still banyak credit to burn. Eth with a kerbau cup that save his ass for now. Hope hoiland is really a young haaland.

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 5 2023, 11:05 AM)
bailey too injury prone... sweat.gif

now antony got problem doh.gif
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injury prone vs maguire....i take injury prone anytime.....
maguire basically time bomb.....
wonder evan can tahan heart attack by partnering maguire o not.... tongue.gif

QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 5 2023, 12:33 PM)
If we can't challenge the title this season, I rather see the club relegated so that glazers kasi jual.

This season performance so far has been erratic.
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challenge for title?
top4 will out of reach soon.....
luckily there are chelsea + newcastle form are still sloppy like us currently....
but with tottenham slowly picking up, i really wonder if man utd can qualify CL....
man city, arsenal n liverpool basically are in form right now....
1more slot to fight between tottenham,newcastle,man utd n chelsea.....
i dont see man utd stand on top from recent performance....
let alone the squad depth n injury list....
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 5 2023, 01:06 PM)
that was 2020 we want a dortmund-version of sancho .. unfortunately we got him the spoiled-mental-koyak-version which got benched immediately by ole the fraud.
he lost both left and right wing spot. and the arrival of cr7 made the situation worse.
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We never seems to learn anything thing from big name signings eh?..dimaria, alexi sanchez, falcao etc..

It's ok, as long as fans feel syok during the signings..LEL

Here we goooooo
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Sep 5 2023, 11:07 AM)
Cibai la this club.

Can't we go 1 day without a circus drama inside.

Now this Anthony thing came up out of nowhere.
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Antony one already got news months ago. Haha nothing new. Just that from weekend manchester united now become daily manchester united action haha
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QUOTE(Darren @ Sep 5 2023, 02:08 PM)
frankly say.....
injury prone vs maguire....i take injury prone anytime.....
maguire basically time bomb.....
wonder evan can tahan heart attack by partnering maguire o not.... tongue.gif
challenge for title?
top4 will out of reach soon.....
luckily there are chelsea + newcastle form are still sloppy like us currently....
but with tottenham slowly picking up, i really wonder if man utd can qualify CL....
man city, arsenal n liverpool basically are in form right now....
1more slot to fight between tottenham,newcastle,man utd n chelsea.....
i dont see man utd stand on top from recent performance....
let alone the squad depth n injury list....
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What's the point aiming top4 trophy every season when we are no where near winning it. Might as well a hard reset
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Mutual termination contract with sancho ke? This club surely in deep shit. Bodoh glazers.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 5 2023, 01:06 PM)
that was 2020 we want a dortmund-version of sancho .. unfortunately we got him the spoiled-mental-koyak-version which got benched immediately by ole the fraud.
he lost both left and right wing spot. and the arrival of cr7 made the situation worse.
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Actually Sancho has a not so publisized history of issues.

At City, he clashed with Pep and was fined for going MIA.
At Dortmund, he was fined for returning from international duty late.
For England, he was late for training.
Now at United, he had a 3 month mental break mid season and is clashing with the manager this season.

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Eric Bailly is Besiktas confirmed.
Antony investigation ongoing. He is dropped from Brazil squad, replaced by Gabriel Jesus.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 5 2023, 03:37 PM)
Actually Sancho has a not so publisized history of issues.

At City, he clashed with Pep and was fined for going MIA.
At Dortmund, he was fined for returning from international duty late.
For England, he was late for training.
Now at United, he had a 3 month mental break mid season and is clashing with the manager this season.
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how come he became so shit in MU? Probably his fav place on left being occupied by rashford?
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how come he became so shit in MU? Probably his fav place on left being occupied by rashford?
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because of ole ball maybe? got worse under rangnick.
well actually he did well under ten hag but not sure what happened in training.

Highest Man Utd Payroll (per week)
source : https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/
1. Jadon Sancho - £350,000
2. Raphael Varane - £340,000
3. Casemiro - £300,000
4. Marcus Rashford - £300,000
5. Anthony Martial - £250,000
6. Bruno Fernandes - £240,000
7. Antony - £200,000
8. Mason Mount - £200,000
9. Harry Maguire - £189,904
10. Christian Eriksen - £150,000

350k not even deserved on the bench. another pogba moments.

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because of ole ball maybe? got worse under rangnick.
well actually he did well under ten hag but not sure what happened in training.

Highest Man Utd Payroll (per week)
source : https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/payroll/
1. Jadon Sancho - £350,000
2. Raphael Varane - £340,000
3. Casemiro - £300,000
4. Marcus Rashford - £300,000
5. Anthony Martial - £250,000
6. Bruno Fernandes - £240,000
7. Antony - £200,000
8. Mason Mount - £200,000
9. Harry Maguire - £189,904
10. Christian Eriksen - £150,000

350k not even deserved on the bench. another pogba moments.
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According to the same website, Kaoru Mitoma only earn £10000 per week

Shall we sign Kaoru Mitoma from Brighton?

Kaoru Mitoma £10,000

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/brighton-hove-albion/payroll/

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Sep 5 2023, 04:46 PM)
According to the same website, Kaoru Mitoma only earn £10000 per week

Shall we sign Kaoru Mitoma from Brighton?

Kaoru Mitoma  £10,000

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/brighton-hove-albion/payroll/
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I actually believe that mitoma will regress playing with us…
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According to the same website, Kaoru Mitoma only earn £10000 per week

Shall we sign Kaoru Mitoma from Brighton?

Kaoru Mitoma  £10,000

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/brighton-hove-albion/payroll/
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Please dont, we have enough winger to cover.
We dont need to destroy mitoma.. we will make him regress
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Sep 5 2023, 04:46 PM)
According to the same website, Kaoru Mitoma only earn £10000 per week

Shall we sign Kaoru Mitoma from Brighton?

Kaoru Mitoma  £10,000

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/brighton-hove-albion/payroll/
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Brighton will ask at least 50m and mitoma will end up as another amad/sancho/palestri
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 5 2023, 06:28 PM)
I actually believe that mitoma will regress playing with us…
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 5 2023, 02:55 PM)
What's the point aiming top4 trophy every season when we are no where near winning it. Might as well a hard reset
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hard reset?
u think computer/device meh?

all the player have to play for their salary n dignity....
so u expect all the player boikot n not playing o purposely losing?
please la....
unless someone take over n spending like chelsea....
otherwise u have to bear with glazer for the time being...


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anybody knows where is vdb or wwhat he up to? theres only a few leagues for him to go now
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You want to join a company, get paid 10k per week and do all the heavy lifting when your colleagues getting 300k per week and sitting on bench?
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japanese have been known to be loyal to their companies, so........ sweat.gif
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anybody knows where is vdb or wwhat he up to? theres only a few leagues for him to go now
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He is still with us, and out of the squad.
Deal with Sociedad collapsed. On the final days before the window closed, FC Lorient pulled out of the deal citing a lack of respect from the player's part.


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He is still with us, and out of the squad.
Deal with Sociedad collapsed. On the final days before the window closed, FC Lorient pulled out of the deal citing a lack of respect from the player's part.
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but what about now? seems like all quiet. turkish league perhaps? confused.gif
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QUOTE(Darren @ Sep 5 2023, 07:21 PM)
hard reset?
u think computer/device meh?

all the player have to play for their salary n dignity....
so u expect all the player boikot n not playing o purposely losing?
please la....
unless someone take over n spending like chelsea....
otherwise u have to bear with glazer for the time being...
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That's the problem. We are stuck as midtable team while glazers happily take dividend
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That's the problem. We are stuck as midtable team while glazers happily take dividend
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we need mentality like Ronaldo tbh. Even his ego is big, but he wants to win. He is a winner. He is the only recent player with that mentality and SAF era players are all built this way. Seeing players now are lacking of that and win lose or draw, they still get high paid anyways kinda of attitude.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 5 2023, 11:54 PM)
AMR4BAT
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Manchester United stock drops record amount amid no-sale reports

Manchester United's valuation on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) plunged by more than £500 million ($628 million) on Tuesday -- its biggest daily percentage drop in value since being listed in 2012 -- amid reports that the Glazer family have shelved plans to sell the club.

After closing at $23.64 a share on Friday, the United stock price fell to $19.35 at close of business on Tuesday -- an 18.15 percent drop in value. The valuation had fallen as low as $18.50 a share at one stage during trading, wiping more than 20 percent off the club's value, before recovering ahead of the 4 p.m. ET closing bell.

Prior to Tuesday's huge drop in value, the previous record fall in one day was a 13.8 percent drop in March 2020.

Reports in England on Sunday said that United owners the Glazer family were considering taking the club off the market after initiating a sale process, including a search for outside investment last November.

INEOS founder Jim Ratcliffe, Britain's richest man and a boyhood United supporter, and Qatari billionaire Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani have both been engaged in a lengthy process to buy the club from the Glazers, but sources have told ESPN that neither has met the American family's £6 billion ($7.53 bn) valuation of the club.

United's market value on the NYSE prior to Tuesday's valuation drop was listed as £3.15 billion ($3.5 bn) and finished Tuesday at approximately £2.55 billion ($3.2bn), substantially lower than the Glazers' valuation.

And while the team's form on the pitch has seen them lose two of their first four Premier League games this season, the trigger for Tuesday's price plunge is likely to be investors selling off shares amid concerns that the club will not be sold to Ratcliffe or Sheikh Jassim.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/3833...no-sale-reports
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Lol. Valuation 3b.. ppl offer 6b pun tak mau jual. Mau 10b
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lol everytime after loss sure ini itu tak boleh, semua rubbish, semua gg... dah biasa dah.... when winning that time... chillax je... lol... not the first time we have such injury crisis anyway.... the sucker punch to us is maguire get to start during CB injury crisis period... lol

hopefully casemiro and amrabat can protect them well haiz...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 6 2023, 10:33 AM)
lol everytime after loss sure ini itu tak boleh, semua rubbish, semua gg... dah biasa dah.... when winning that time... chillax je... lol... not the first time we have such injury crisis anyway.... the sucker punch to us is maguire get to start during CB injury crisis period... lol

hopefully casemiro and amrabat can protect them well haiz...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 6 2023, 10:33 AM)
lol everytime after loss sure ini itu tak boleh, semua rubbish, semua gg... dah biasa dah.... when winning that time... chillax je... lol... not the first time we have such injury crisis anyway.... the sucker punch to us is maguire get to start during CB injury crisis period... lol

hopefully casemiro and amrabat can protect them well haiz...
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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Sep 6 2023, 10:36 AM)
We pray pray Maguire doesnt help to assist our opposing team la  laugh.gif
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looking at his defending during arsenal match, he definitely will... prepare for a 4-0 by brighton and 7-0 by bayern, kita chill je... mentally prepared...

QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 6 2023, 10:41 AM)
Other fan say CB as centerback. Meanwhile we say CB as chiba….

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maguire is in that category, tak mau belah, tak mau main baik2, and selalu fikir he is captain material... headache...
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Watched Greenwood reveal as Gatafe player, so nice to see him finally smiling

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 6 2023, 06:27 AM)
wow ... i mean wow ...

THE SNAKES ARE STILL IN THIS TEAM ..ten hag might be another victim soon

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ness-wrong.html

Lol. Team of shame ini
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 6 2023, 10:44 AM)
Watched Greenwood reveal as Gatafe player, so nice to see him finally smiling

Hope he can rediscovered his form
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greenwood seem so thin at the moment....
almost like stick.....
i remmber him quite muscular before.....
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QUOTE(Darren @ Sep 6 2023, 11:18 AM)
greenwood seem so thin at the moment....
almost like stick.....
i remmber him quite muscular before.....
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Maybe they short the stock
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Maybe they short the stock
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true. short and make 1-2billion , more profitable than selling the club
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true. short and make 1-2billion , more profitable than selling the club
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If true then they will be in bigger problem. Stock market manipulation.
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It’s time his gf/wife post good things about Greenwood

This is the only way to slowly clean Greenwood image in English media

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Maybe they short the stock
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 6 2023, 01:27 PM)
true. short and make 1-2billion , more profitable than selling the club
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 6 2023, 01:32 PM)
If true then they will be in bigger problem. Stock market manipulation.
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Feels weird posting about market info here instead of over in the Stock forums, but here goes.

What we are seeing is a natural market reaction. The Glazers aren't losing a single cent because they are not selling their shares on the open market, so open market prices means nothing to them.

The stock price only reflects what your market valuation is. And United has a natural market valuation of around 3B. Prices went to previously because there were buyers who were willing to pay prices that valued the club at 5 - 6B. This drove up the stock price because if the sale went through, that is how much the stock owners would earn. When news broke that Glazers will not sell, then club valuation went back down to 3B.

This stock price drop affects only the small stock owners on the market. Glazers has made it clear they will only sell their equities for a valuation above 6B. So what the stock price is between now and then is immaterial to them.




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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 6 2023, 01:32 PM)
If true then they will be in bigger problem. Stock market manipulation.
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theres always ways around it, of course wont be using own brokerage account. but some ppl will definitely benefit from this crash
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It’s time his gf/wife post good things about Greenwood

This is the only way to slowly clean Greenwood image in English media
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wait he jadi la liga top scorer and the resistance movements can shaddup dy... if cannot, getafe top scorer pun enuf la... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 6 2023, 04:04 PM)
wait he jadi la liga top scorer and the resistance movements can shaddup dy... if cannot, getafe top scorer pun enuf la... lol
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Hard to become La Liga top scorer la bro, still need to challenge Lewan, Bellingham and others

Best is Getafe top scorer
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Hard to become La Liga top scorer la bro, still need to challenge Lewan, Bellingham and others

Best is Getafe top scorer
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lol fight top scorer with a CM, gg already... dunno england will play bellingham at false 9 or not... lol
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lol fight top scorer with a CM, gg already... dunno england will play bellingham at false 9 or not... lol
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Bellingham at Real Madrid wear no 5. Weird betul his number 😀
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lol fight top scorer with a CM, gg already... dunno england will play bellingham at false 9 or not... lol
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Another one accused for domestic violence. So banish Antony like Greenwood? If they don’t why banish Greenwood in the first place. What a chaotic club currently.
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I really hope our share crash and burn. Fk glazer
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banish everyone je... life goes on anyway... pellestri amad gogogoogo
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 6 2023, 09:53 PM)
Another one accused for domestic violence. So banish Antony like Greenwood? If they don’t why banish Greenwood in the first place. What a chaotic club currently.
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With how the club handling Greenwood, I think it will be same fate for Antony but Antony’s case not happened recently, it was accused back in the days when he was with Ajax plus Antony came out and released statement that he did not do that while Greenwood didn’t.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 7 2023, 09:38 AM)
With how the club handling Greenwood, I think it will be same fate for Antony but Antony’s case not happened recently, it was accused back in the days when he was with Ajax plus Antony came out and released statement that he did not do that while Greenwood didn’t.
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most probably like mendy case kot.... hopefully he dont kena jail for nth... kasi settle out of court je... the woman want money and fame saje anyway....
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Another one accused for domestic violence. So banish Antony like Greenwood? If they don’t why banish Greenwood in the first place. What a chaotic club currently.
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I don't mind since he contribute nothing at the moment. But as article in previous post, if teammate no pass him ball when acre of space, also susah.. you can't play if ppl no pass you ball
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 7 2023, 10:39 AM)
I don't mind since he contribute nothing at the moment. But as article in previous post, if teammate no pass him ball when acre of space, also susah.. you can't play if ppl no pass you ball
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he is still our best defensive winger bro... him and awb stopped alot of attacks from our right flanks... but this both combine together in attack seems very gg.. lol
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so depressing to be MU fan right now. everyday negative news. luckily still early in the season...
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Sep 7 2023, 11:16 AM)
so depressing to be MU fan right now. everyday negative news. luckily still early in the season...
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Don’t depress bro

MU signed JAV… I mean Japanese women team player
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Sep 7 2023, 11:16 AM)
so depressing to be MU fan right now. everyday negative news. luckily still early in the season...
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Other clubs like Ars Liv has went thru this depressing stage for many many yrs, stingy owner and no cup
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Sep 7 2023, 12:24 PM)
Other clubs like Ars Liv has went thru this depressing stage for many many yrs, stingy owner and no cup
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we seem to have the upper hand in terms of abusers and potential abusers and unprofessionals.

This goes against the grain of MUFC being a clean club and one that can make us proud. I thought our recruitment process was super tight and yet ETH's best buddies have all come in and spoiled our name. I am completely ashamed of United right now. On and off the field, from players to management to ownership, nothing to be proud of, except for the yesteryears.

Onana if he plays for Cameroon again, especially in AFCON will be a proper con-job. Don't they even speak about this before signing during negotiations?

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 7 2023, 12:55 PM)
we seem to have the upper hand in terms of abusers and potential abusers and unprofessionals.

This goes against the grain of MUFC being a clean club and one that can make us proud. I thought our recruitment process was super tight and yet ETH's best buddies have all come in and spoiled our name. I am completely ashamed of United right now. On and off the field, from players to management to ownership, nothing to be proud of, except for the yesteryears.

Onana if he plays for Cameroon again, especially in AFCON will be a proper con-job. Don't they even speak about this before signing during negotiations?
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arh ETH fault pulak? lol...

For Onana case, u cant sign an agreement ask him dont represent his country no? lol... the manager forgiven him, what can you do lol....
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arh ETH fault pulak? lol...

For Onana case, u cant sign an agreement ask him dont represent his country no? lol... the manager forgiven him, what can you do lol....
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I dono la, when comes to football all the emotions also come out.I call it as I see it.
Onana - ETH fav keeper, not yet settle down wanna go for AFCON. I would’ve seriously asked or told him to avoid national team regardless of “retirement” status while signing. All African and Asian cup players.
Antony - ETH winger, now abuser pulak.

Tak de any clue one mehzzzz….I know, I know they are just colleagues…

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 7 2023, 02:49 PM)
I dono la, when comes to football all the emotions also come out.I call it as I see it.
Onana - ETH fav keeper, not yet settle down wanna go for AFCON. I would’ve seriously asked or told him to avoid national team regardless of “retirement” status while signing. All African and Asian cup players.
Antony - ETH winger, now abuser pulak.

Tak de any clue one mehzzzz….I know, I know they are just colleagues…
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chillax bro, u cant ask a player not go join national team, its their pride for representing their country in major comps bro... lol

as for antony, i will reserve until the final judgement is out... lol... mendy case drag on for 3 years, in the end, he putih2 gt harassed by everyone while he is actually proven not guilty... dont treat antony the same way...
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Under FIFA laws, clubs cannot prevent players from national duty. This is strictly a conversation between the player and the national team setup.

To the clubs benefit, we may have already planned ahead by signing a backup keeper with the same distribution characteristics that Onana has.
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x cantik pun T.T
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 7 2023, 02:49 PM)
I dono la, when comes to football all the emotions also come out.I call it as I see it.
Onana - ETH fav keeper, not yet settle down wanna go for AFCON. I would’ve seriously asked or told him to avoid national team regardless of “retirement” status while signing. All African and Asian cup players.
Antony - ETH winger, now abuser pulak.

Tak de any clue one mehzzzz….I know, I know they are just colleagues…
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Unfair assessment, but I get your disappointment.

Like many others said, they can't stop players to represent their countries. In the latest news, Onana said he will play one game only, don't know true or not.

As for Antony, we have a lot of abusers and spoilt players before (even CR7), so just because he's ETH "cult member", it's their fault? Not fair, right.

Somebody already mentioned, it's MU fans time to feel the pinch. My LIV friends already sakit for so many years, lol. Give chance lah.

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x cantik pun T.T
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Somebody mentioned "JAV", terus kena bashed. Kesian that girl.

She was the Golden Boot winner in the recent World Cup. So, consider it good news lah.
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lolx.....
when buy a player who not even selected for their county, kena bash....
but when buy a player who selected for their country, oso kena bash...
i really wonder how many non selected player for their own country can catch the fan eye?

btw, i dont really mind a player away for how long...
but i rate the player based on his minute on the field when he around...

yeah....the missing player might cause us some point.....
but it oso show the owner how thin the squad depth is....

some tauke more likely to take action when face reality check compare to normal request...
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Sep 7 2023, 12:24 PM)
Other clubs like Ars Liv has went thru this depressing stage for many many yrs, stingy owner and no cup
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I wouldn't say glazer are stingy, they did poured the money when they need to. We are one of the highest spender last few season? Problem with glazer is, there's no positive development at the club. Be it infrastructure, bank loans, club direction
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 7 2023, 12:55 PM)
we seem to have the upper hand in terms of abusers and potential abusers and unprofessionals.

This goes against the grain of MUFC being a clean club and one that can make us proud. I thought our recruitment process was super tight and yet ETH's best buddies have all come in and spoiled our name. I am completely ashamed of United right now. On and off the field, from players to management to ownership, nothing to be proud of, except for the yesteryears.

Onana if he plays for Cameroon again, especially in AFCON will be a proper con-job. Don't they even speak about this before signing during negotiations?
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What weed are you on atm bro? You forgot about Cantona's flying kick, Beckham's boot controversy, SAF issues with Keane, Dwight Yorke sex tape, George Best prostitute scandal, Rooney's grandma's and prostitute scandal, and the legendary Giggs affairs. Our club has been at the center of controversies for years. Never has MUFC been the "clean" club.

QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 7 2023, 10:30 PM)
I wouldn't say glazer are stingy, they did poured the money when they need to. We are one of the highest spender last few season? Problem with glazer is, there's no positive development at the club. Be it infrastructure, bank loans, club direction
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Correction please. They never poured their own money after the takeover. They only allow the club to use the club money.




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Why United was quick to drop Greenwood while very protective on Anthony?
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Why United was quick to drop Greenwood while very protective on Anthony?
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Greenwood is free and Antony cost 100M... lel
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Greenwood is free and Antony cost 100M... lel
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Greenwood was with United since kid days...
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Greenwood was with United since kid days...
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Hence the free part.
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So Pellistri will be our new startup right wing?
I think Ten Hag will prefer Mount anyway.

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 7 2023, 11:13 PM)
What weed are you on atm bro? You forgot about Cantona's flying kick, Beckham's boot controversy, SAF issues with Keane, Dwight Yorke sex tape, George Best prostitute scandal, Rooney's grandma's and prostitute scandal, and the legendary Giggs affairs. Our club has been at the center of controversies for years. Never has MUFC been the "clean" club.
Correction please. They never poured their own money after the takeover. They only allow the club to use the club money.
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Ya I know, but nevertheless, they allowed the purchase. What I am trying to say is it's not like we are short of money to buy players. The amount of money we spent on new players is alot compared to other clubs.
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Amrabat excluded from national duty this week due to injury, hope it’s not a serious one
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Why United was quick to drop Greenwood while very protective on Anthony?
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antony denied and greenwood just silent until the end... lol... silent = guilty to most of the commercial mgmt... lol
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Ya I know, but nevertheless, they allowed the purchase. What I am trying to say is it's not like we are short of money to buy players. The amount of money we spent on new players is alot compared to other clubs.
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we now buy players based on knee jerk reactions... lol... not like SAF time... we dont buy players this way... all the overpriced panic purchases over the years and the flops that resulted are really headache... antony dont worth 100mil, casemiro dont worth 60mil, maguire dont worth 80mil, mount dont worth 60mil and more to go over the list we have lol...
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they say its a minor injury and also precautionary since he was not reli fit because he didnt reli train much with Fiorentina first team also...
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Sep 7 2023, 11:13 PM)
What weed are you on atm bro? You forgot about Cantona's flying kick, Beckham's boot controversy, SAF issues with Keane, Dwight Yorke sex tape, George Best prostitute scandal, Rooney's grandma's and prostitute scandal, and the legendary Giggs affairs. Our club has been at the center of controversies for years. Never has MUFC been the "clean" club.
Correction please. They never poured their own money after the takeover. They only allow the club to use the club money.
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First of all, the wanker deserved the flying kick.
Beckham was booted out soon enough.
Keane was dealt properly and quickly.
Dwight yorke - well yes...that's bad. But hey, the ladies were willing participants. 4 of them in fact.

And of course Rooney and Giggsy's dirty linen is considered fresh in my memory.

In spite of that, no one unwilling was hurt. All the culprits were dealt with swiftly. I was a proud MUFC fan through it all. NOW I don't feel so. There are too many players above the club.
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they say its a minor injury and also precautionary since he was not reli fit because he didnt reli train much with Fiorentina first team also...
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I sincerely hope he is not going to take all the time to recover at Carrington and head on straight for AFCON again.
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nowdays due to internet, thing get complicated sometime....
footballer job is to play football at the field whether training o in match..
why need to involve their lifestyle?
at their own sweet time, jz let them going on with their life....
but if found guilty for crime, then banish them lo.....

who care how many going for prostitute o having issue at home but doing well in training/match?
are they paid to behalf in real life?
undeniable they represent the club image....
but what use if good boy in real life but transparent in game?
it same like working....only rate ur work performance during ur work time....not rest time....
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complicated... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2023, 09:39 AM)
we now buy players based on knee jerk reactions... lol... not like SAF time... we dont buy players this way... all the overpriced panic purchases over the years and the flops that resulted are really headache... antony dont worth 100mil, casemiro dont worth 60mil, maguire dont worth 80mil, mount dont worth 60mil and more to go over the list we have lol...
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I remember SAF bought CR7 on knee jerk reactions too, no? One of the best purchases of all time.
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I remember SAF bought CR7 on knee jerk reactions too, no? One of the best purchases of all time.
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not really, already wanna buy him since their UCL game against sporting... even go CR7 home to convince his family lagi... not as knee jerk as antony or maguire purchases... lol
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Sep 8 2023, 10:09 AM)
First of all, the wanker deserved the flying kick.
Beckham was booted out soon enough.
Keane was dealt properly and quickly.
Dwight yorke - well yes...that's bad. But hey, the ladies were willing participants. 4 of them in fact.

And of course Rooney and Giggsy's dirty linen is considered fresh in my memory.

In spite of that, no one unwilling was hurt. All the culprits were dealt with swiftly. I was a proud MUFC fan through it all. NOW I don't feel so. There are too many players above the club.
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Sekejap cerita clean club image. Sekejap cerita players above the club.

If you are talking about no one unwilling was hurt, how about Rooney's wife and Giggs's brother ? They both are unwilling and they got hurt as well by the actions of their partner.

But if you wanna talk about their issues are hurting the club, yes this time a lot of the issues are hurting the club.

This is what we will continue to get with incompetent management under the Glazers regime.




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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ik-ten-Hag.html

Saudi pun tak mau ini flop.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2023, 11:27 AM)
not really, already wanna buy him since their UCL game against sporting... even go CR7 home to convince his family lagi... not as knee jerk as antony or maguire purchases... lol
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Our players convinced Sir Alex to buy CR7 after a pre-season friendly with Sporting on the flight home.

It was quite unusual so I would term this as a sort of knee-jerk transfer. The club that had scouted CR7 extensively was Arsenal. And by swooping in so quickly, we actually surprised Arsenal.
Arsene Wenger had said in one of his interviews that the player he regrets on missing out most was CR7.

Sir Alex wasn't unfamiliar to knee jerk transfers. Let's not forget he signed Bebe without even seeing him play. And if I'm not mistaken, Karel Poborsky (Oh God I'm old to remember these things on the fly) after his chipped goal in Euro....96 was it? Sir Alex had as many failed transfers as he did successfuly ones, but the difference as he had a strong spine of reliable players already in the team to carry us plus his managerial genius.

The problem with our current set of players are that they are a mish mash of styles, some bought for the poeesssion based style of LvG with Ole's British insanity added with Mou's transition play and now ETH.
Ole was by far the worst as he had no real tactical nous to build team identity and went purely for the passport. Ole spent 2 seasons chasing Sancho. If we look at Ole's players : Maguire, AWB, Sancho, VDB, Dan James. Most of them were given pay packets way above their ability. VDB was a prime example of us buying a player Ole didn't want because he had to submit a list of names to Ed as secondary targets and was forced to name someone. That summer, Ole wanted Grealish (English passport!) but he went to City and Ed proceeded with the backup name of VDB which Ole never played.

So our player composition is a legacy problem from all our mismanagement of the past that ETH now has to find a solution to.



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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 8 2023, 02:36 PM)
Our players convinced Sir Alex to buy CR7 after a pre-season friendly with Sporting on the flight home.

It was quite unusual so I would term this as a sort of knee-jerk transfer. The club that had scouted CR7 extensively was Arsenal. And by swooping in so quickly, we actually surprised Arsenal.
Arsene Wenger had said in one of his interviews that the player he regrets on missing out most was CR7.

Sir Alex wasn't unfamiliar to knee jerk transfers. Let's not forget he signed Bebe without even seeing him play. And if I'm not mistaken, Karel Poborsky (Oh God I'm old to remember these things on the fly) after his chipped goal in Euro....96 was it? Sir Alex had as many failed transfers as he did successfuly ones, but the difference as he had a strong spine of reliable players already in the team to carry us plus his managerial genius.

The problem with our current set of players are that they are a mish mash of styles, some bought for the poeesssion based style of LvG with Ole's British insanity added with Mou's transition play and now ETH.
Ole was by far the worst as he had no real tactical nous to build team identity and went purely for the passport. Ole spent 2 seasons chasing Sancho. If we look at Ole's players : Maguire, AWB, Sancho, VDB, Dan James. Most of them were given pay packets way above their ability. VDB was a prime example of us buying a player Ole didn't want because he had to submit a list of names to Ed as secondary targets and was forced to name someone. That summer, Ole wanted Grealish (English passport!) but he went to City and Ed proceeded with the backup name of VDB which Ole never played.

So our player composition is a legacy problem from all our mismanagement of the past that ETH now has to find a solution to.
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this is wad happens when u keep changing manager every 2-3 seasons... no fans able to stand through the rebuilding phase and keep calling for the managers head... every new manager have to make use with the shits they have and perform miracle... see how much the squad changes of man city, liverpool and arsenal since their current manager in charge... we should know where we shud go...
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the most mind boggling one is vdb. i mean, why the fk ole sanctioned the puchase if he has no intention using him.
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the most mind boggling one is vdb. i mean, why the fk ole sanctioned the puchase if he has no intention using him.
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he wanted a versatile grealish and all he gotten is VDB which is a limited function player... lol... and u know he dont have tactical knowledge to use this kind of player... but he is not expensive for the reputation he comes with...
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the most mind boggling one is vdb. i mean, why the fk ole sanctioned the puchase if he has no intention using him.
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Recall that particular transfer window.
Deadline day was approaching and the window was really bad for us. Fans were already complaining.

Near the end, the club bought VDB. And then the double signing of Diallo and Pellestri.
It had the sense of buying for the sake of buying, just so we wouldn't have a window where we missed all targets. Which was essentially what that transfer window was in hindsight.

Ole kept playing the same old team.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 8 2023, 02:36 PM)
Our players convinced Sir Alex to buy CR7 after a pre-season friendly with Sporting on the flight home.

It was quite unusual so I would term this as a sort of knee-jerk transfer. The club that had scouted CR7 extensively was Arsenal. And by swooping in so quickly, we actually surprised Arsenal.
Arsene Wenger had said in one of his interviews that the player he regrets on missing out most was CR7.

Sir Alex wasn't unfamiliar to knee jerk transfers. Let's not forget he signed Bebe without even seeing him play. And if I'm not mistaken, Karel Poborsky (Oh God I'm old to remember these things on the fly) after his chipped goal in Euro....96 was it? Sir Alex had as many failed transfers as he did successfuly ones, but the difference as he had a strong spine of reliable players already in the team to carry us plus his managerial genius.

The problem with our current set of players are that they are a mish mash of styles, some bought for the poeesssion based style of LvG with Ole's British insanity added with Mou's transition play and now ETH.
Ole was by far the worst as he had no real tactical nous to build team identity and went purely for the passport. Ole spent 2 seasons chasing Sancho. If we look at Ole's players : Maguire, AWB, Sancho, VDB, Dan James. Most of them were given pay packets way above their ability. VDB was a prime example of us buying a player Ole didn't want because he had to submit a list of names to Ed as secondary targets and was forced to name someone. That summer, Ole wanted Grealish (English passport!) but he went to City and Ed proceeded with the backup name of VDB which Ole never played.

So our player composition is a legacy problem from all our mismanagement of the past that ETH now has to find a solution to.
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OMG Bebe! Legendary signing.
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Greenwood's case went viral on instagram with voice recording and graphic physical injuries on the woman which makes it harder to defend that he didn't do those things to her even though charges was eventually dropped
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the most mind boggling one is vdb. i mean, why the fk ole sanctioned the puchase if he has no intention using him.
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yeah, pity vdb. he seems like a fairly decent player which had very little opportunities to play
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 8 2023, 04:17 PM)
he wanted a versatile grealish and all he gotten is VDB which is a limited function player... lol... and u know he dont have tactical knowledge to use this kind of player... but he is not expensive for the reputation he comes with...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 8 2023, 02:36 PM)
The problem with our current set of players are that they are a mish mash of styles, some bought for the poeesssion based style of LvG with Ole's British insanity added with Mou's transition play and now ETH.
Ole was by far the worst as he had no real tactical nous to build team identity and went purely for the passport. Ole spent 2 seasons chasing Sancho. If we look at Ole's players : Maguire, AWB, Sancho, VDB, Dan James. Most of them were given pay packets way above their ability. VDB was a prime example of us buying a player Ole didn't want because he had to submit a list of names to Ed as secondary targets and was forced to name someone. That summer, Ole wanted Grealish (English passport!) but he went to City and Ed proceeded with the backup name of VDB which Ole never played.

So our player composition is a legacy problem from all our mismanagement of the past that ETH now has to find a solution to.
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I agree one of the problem is manager need to clear ex manager mess, especially when budget limited. While Ole is public enemy no1, having ole simply name vdb as secondary list is totally unfounded. Never heard of such news.

Dan James sold at profit. He get rid of Lukaku with big profit. Don't forget Maguire is wanted by JM too. Pay package is actually way inflated during JM era. Jogba, Sanchez.

Ole have to deal with Lukaku, Jogba, Fred, lindeloft, baily and old matic. All this is ex manager mess. Jm need to deal with a bunch of sideway players philosophy - lvg mess. Now eth has to deal with Ole mess. If there are going to be new manager, it seems Antony, MM are heading to be a mess. Hope not.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 8 2023, 02:36 PM)
Our players convinced Sir Alex to buy CR7 after a pre-season friendly with Sporting on the flight home.

It was quite unusual so I would term this as a sort of knee-jerk transfer. The club that had scouted CR7 extensively was Arsenal. And by swooping in so quickly, we actually surprised Arsenal.
Arsene Wenger had said in one of his interviews that the player he regrets on missing out most was CR7.

Sir Alex wasn't unfamiliar to knee jerk transfers. Let's not forget he signed Bebe without even seeing him play. And if I'm not mistaken, Karel Poborsky (Oh God I'm old to remember these things on the fly) after his chipped goal in Euro....96 was it? Sir Alex had as many failed transfers as he did successfuly ones, but the difference as he had a strong spine of reliable players already in the team to carry us plus his managerial genius.

The problem with our current set of players are that they are a mish mash of styles, some bought for the poeesssion based style of LvG with Ole's British insanity added with Mou's transition play and now ETH.
Ole was by far the worst as he had no real tactical nous to build team identity and went purely for the passport. Ole spent 2 seasons chasing Sancho. If we look at Ole's players : Maguire, AWB, Sancho, VDB, Dan James. Most of them were given pay packets way above their ability. VDB was a prime example of us buying a player Ole didn't want because he had to submit a list of names to Ed as secondary targets and was forced to name someone. That summer, Ole wanted Grealish (English passport!) but he went to City and Ed proceeded with the backup name of VDB which Ole never played.

So our player composition is a legacy problem from all our mismanagement of the past that ETH now has to find a solution to.
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That's why I not really want to change manager anymore, atleast not that fast, NOT NOW.

For me the management just buy for the sake of can push the blame to manager if result not good.

You know the argument of "Result bad? But see I had paid all those money so is not my fault, but manager!"
"You want good result? Here we change manager again."

But also on Ole on putting names just for the sake of putting name.

At this rate, we can only see some hope on challenging the title after clearing out Maguire, VDB and Sancho and import those players that ETH want to fully implement his philosophy. Provided by that time Glazers is out from our club
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Sancho should go back to Germany, where he can thrive.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 9 2023, 06:45 AM)
Sancho should go back to Germany, where he can thrive.
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Such a waste larh .. the one player i was legit truly hyped for because you dont fluke a 20G+20A season
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Let’s have a quick talk about Amrabat

1. He has a quite a bumpy career, play DM but early stage of his career he played right back and full back

2. His career starting to see some light when transferred to Verona

3. Last season was his greatest season with Fiorentina.

Passing ability
1. His passing rate throughout 4 years at serie A was above 80%

2. Weak or zero key pass… 0.3 to 0.7, a lower version of Casemiro

3. His passing more like those simple pass around, not those players who like to be playmaker. Do not like to hold ball longer

Attacking ability
1. None
2. 3 seasons with Fiorentina only 1 goal 1 assist


Defend ability
1. Weak in the air.. can said none existence

Overall… another Weghorst type but a DM Weghorst. He is more like a squad player, not a definite starting 11. Or can said he is kinda like Fletcher type of player

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Let’s buy all the Maguire in your FM game 😂😂
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 9 2023, 12:10 PM)
Let’s have a quick talk about Amrabat

1. He has a quite a bumpy career, play DM but early stage of his career he played right back and full back

2. His career starting to see some light when transferred to Verona

3. Last season was his greatest season with Fiorentina.

Passing ability
1. His passing rate throughout 4 years at serie A was above 80%

2. Weak or zero key pass… 0.3 to 0.7, a lower version of Casemiro

3. His passing more like those simple pass around, not those players who like to be playmaker. Do not like to hold ball longer

Attacking ability
1. None
2. 3 seasons with Fiorentina only 1 goal 1 assist
Defend ability
1. Weak in the air.. can said none existence

Overall… another Weghorst type but a DM Weghorst. He is more like a squad player, not a definite starting 11. Or can said he is kinda like Fletcher type of player
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Depends how he play. I only watch him in world cup. Fuuuu single handedly run from def to att. No need pass

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Sep 9 2023, 11:06 AM)
Such a waste larh .. the one player i was legit truly hyped for because you dont fluke a 20G+20A season
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Dunno apa jadi. Eth so called good coach also cannot revive him. I think after buy, he already not perform in training, that's why barely start even after ole buy. 70m duduk bangku aje
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 9 2023, 03:08 PM)
Dunno apa jadi. Eth so called good coach also cannot revive him. I think after buy, he already not perform in training, that's why barely start even after ole buy. 70m duduk bangku aje
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Even master manager Pep G. also gave up on Sancho...
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 9 2023, 03:08 PM)
Dunno apa jadi. Eth so called good coach also cannot revive him. I think after buy, he already not perform in training, that's why barely start even after ole buy. 70m duduk bangku aje
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ETH doesnt seem like the one that puts his arms around players and motivate gently larh. Oh well hopefully got a decent conclusion to this drama. He still has had some decent games, preseason looked ok but somehow not given chance this season
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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Sep 9 2023, 04:29 PM)
Even master manager Pep G. also gave up on Sancho...
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I dont blame Sancho the slightest for that, he was rated higher than Foden and even Foden is like having to take turns with other players when he could be playing every minute of every game somewhere else. With all the Antony drama going around, hopefully Sancho does get some games larh. If ETH falls out with another player AND he doesnt at least maintain top 4 and maybe go far in cup trophies, i will be fully on the ETH out train.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 8 2023, 10:35 PM)
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maguire can fit jose tactic

QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 9 2023, 12:10 PM)

Overall… another Weghorst type but a DM Weghorst. He is more like a squad player, not a definite starting 11. Or can said he is kinda like Fletcher type of player
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yup. he is ten hag player, hardworking team player sacrifice anything for the coach

QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 9 2023, 03:08 PM)
Dunno apa jadi. Eth so called good coach also cannot revive him. I think after buy, he already not perform in training, that's why barely start even after ole buy. 70m duduk bangku aje
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i read some article that the players around him also doesnt like his attitude in training probably coz of his high pay

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Sep 9 2023, 05:09 PM)
maguire can fit jose tactic
yup. he is ten hag player, hardworking team player sacrifice anything for the coach
i read some article that the players around him also doesnt like his attitude in training probably coz of his high pay
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In real office environment, I sure not syok if colleague earn x3 my salary and perform like shit
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Sep 9 2023, 11:06 AM)
Such a waste larh .. the one player i was legit truly hyped for because you dont fluke a 20G+20A season
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I also hype about kleberson. World cup winner tp come here flop 😅
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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 9 2023, 06:33 PM)
I also hype about kleberson. World cup winner tp come here flop 😅
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At least same period got Cristiano ... its ok to get flops when youre at the top. We have multiple duds trying to get back to the top.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Sep 9 2023, 04:58 PM)
ETH doesnt seem like the one that puts his arms around players and motivate gently larh. Oh well hopefully got a decent conclusion to this drama. He still has had some decent games, preseason looked ok but somehow not given chance this season
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ETH took the soft approach with Sancho last season. 3 months off mid-season to get himself in order in the Netherlands then slowly reintegrated into the squad at his own pace.
The entire staff was quite sympathetic to Sancho last season.

Which is why his outburst this season caught most by surprise. Leaks coming out of the dressing room is that the players do not view Sancho positively due to a lack of commitment.


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Only one United player in England lineup today

Anyone going to watch Maguire playing?
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Only one United player in England lineup today

Anyone going to watch Maguire playing?
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