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TSktek
post Aug 15 2023, 01:02 PM, updated 3y ago

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my car already have rear glass washer spray nozzle, and button to activate it (steering stalk)

i inspect the hose is connected from front pump, tarik out put a new hose to front radiator then spray nozzle mounting in front bumper grill there.

want to cool down overall temperature. effective or not
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post Aug 15 2023, 01:06 PM

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cool down for what? it's not gonna add any hp to your car..
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post Aug 15 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 15 2023, 01:02 PM)
my car already have rear glass washer spray nozzle, and button to activate it (steering stalk)

i inspect the hose is connected from front pump, tarik out put a new hose to front radiator then spray nozzle mounting in front bumper grill there.

want to cool down overall temperature. effective or not
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it's tiny bit effective as super cheap idea.. however compared to real upgrade, it's not. ok la.. for fun..
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post Aug 15 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(loki @ Aug 15 2023, 01:06 PM)
cool down for what? it's not gonna add any hp to your car..
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add coldness instead of hp. how
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post Aug 15 2023, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Aug 15 2023, 01:08 PM)
it's tiny bit effective as super cheap idea.. however compared to real upgrade, it's not. ok la.. for fun..
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how to upgrade aircond. use bigger fan blow?
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post Aug 15 2023, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Aug 15 2023, 01:08 PM)
it's tiny bit effective as super cheap idea.. however compared to real upgrade, it's not. ok la.. for fun..
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Ur car got a device call thermostat, no matter how much water u spray, the thermostat will make sure the temperature stay stable.
If u spray at the engine block more offen, heat and water will accelerate the oxidation process, u see rust everywhere.
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post Aug 15 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 15 2023, 01:02 PM)
my car already have rear glass washer spray nozzle, and button to activate it (steering stalk)

i inspect the hose is connected from front pump, tarik out put a new hose to front radiator then spray nozzle mounting in front bumper grill there.

want to cool down overall temperature. effective or not
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cool down for what?
how much water you can carry, and how often you want to spray the radiator?
and you want to spray by a swirch all the time?
what gains you get?
btw, it will only make your radiotor prone to leaking faster because material will warp easily (hot and cold contact) which creates stress to the metal + steam.

to me I think not productive at all. just my 2 cents ya....
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post Aug 15 2023, 02:19 PM

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post Aug 15 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 15 2023, 01:02 PM)
my car already have rear glass washer spray nozzle, and button to activate it (steering stalk)

i inspect the hose is connected from front pump, tarik out put a new hose to front radiator then spray nozzle mounting in front bumper grill there.

want to cool down overall temperature. effective or not
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Caution, this doesn't has anti-freeze. But I guess doesn't matter in Malaysia.

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post Aug 15 2023, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 15 2023, 01:12 PM)
add coldness instead of hp. how
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Use the bonet damper. It will raise up the hood a bit so hot air can come out and keep engine bay cooler when stop. When driving it can give better airflow.
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post Aug 15 2023, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 15 2023, 01:18 PM)
cool down for what?
how much water you can carry, and how often you want to spray the radiator?
and you want to spray by a swirch all the time?
what gains you get?
btw, it will only make your radiotor prone to leaking faster because material will warp easily (hot and cold contact) which creates stress to the metal + steam.

to me I think not productive at all. just my 2 cents ya....
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for air cond lah.
existing tank can refill over than 1.5l and we spraying mist only.
from my usage can tahan more than a week.

during rain did urs radiator kena wet wet and fan blowing to enjin. all leak or not yet

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same idea bro. mine easier just add water hose to front grill
no need touch wire circuits.

QUOTE(constant_weight @ Aug 15 2023, 02:53 PM)
Caution, this doesn't has anti-freeze. But I guess doesn't matter in Malaysia.

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will survey but use plain water first (cheap $$$)

QUOTE(Balanced @ Aug 15 2023, 05:34 PM)
Use the bonet damper. It will raise up the hood a bit so hot air can come out and keep engine bay cooler when stop. When driving it can give better airflow.
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quite worry small animal insect come in
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post Aug 16 2023, 07:15 AM

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Quite a good practice and your car will say to you, TQ.
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post Aug 16 2023, 09:19 AM

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you need run the pump consistantly to make a noticable effect

I did this before on my mpv to keep ac cold when waiting kids 2hrs in parking, 1.5L bottle finish in i think 10mins.... barely noticable difference in my situation.

But if your situation is moving vehicle & heat build up in engine bay, exhausting the heat would be first step instead of trying to cool down the heat.
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post Aug 16 2023, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Aug 16 2023, 09:19 AM)
you need run the pump consistantly to make a noticable effect

I did this before on my mpv to keep ac cold when waiting kids 2hrs in parking, 1.5L bottle finish in i think 10mins.... barely noticable difference in my situation.

But if your situation is moving vehicle & heat build up in engine bay, exhausting the heat would be first step instead of trying to cool down the heat.
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good tips, i may upgrade water tank after sucess.
later think about ur idea, making vent out heat by positive/negative air flow pressure
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post Aug 16 2023, 10:02 AM

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ktek can look for intercooler sprayer kit, quite common mod
some guys eventually added 45L tank for this purpose, that's 45kg of water

but, that's for intercooler, not so much for radiator, because the coolant in the radiator is liquid with a much higher latent heat capacity than air (intercooler). To remove heat from that, you need more CFM as mentioned above, to carry the heat away.
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post Aug 16 2023, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 16 2023, 10:02 AM)
ktek can look for intercooler sprayer kit, quite common mod
some guys eventually added 45L tank for this purpose, that's 45kg of water

but, that's for intercooler, not so much for radiator, because the coolant in the radiator is liquid with a much higher latent heat capacity than air (intercooler). To remove heat from that, you need more CFM as mentioned above, to carry the heat away.
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how about ac condenser, inside is gas or liquid form.
since they are parallel together, i spray them both

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post Aug 16 2023, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 16 2023, 10:04 AM)
how about ac condenser, inside is gas or liquid form.
since they are parallel together, i spray them both
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ideally AC condenser is liquid, but if the compressor is less than effective it can be pressurized vapor also
and again.. spraying water to alu can shorten its lifespan, and those things are 300 ringgit above to replace

I'd suggest you add an electric fan to pull more air through the rad and condenser

my Exora turbo, can see significant difference with the AC fan running vs without
I use OBD to take temp
with AC, it's 85C, without AC, 92C...
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post Aug 16 2023, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 16 2023, 10:12 AM)
ideally AC condenser is liquid, but if the compressor is less than effective it can be pressurized vapor also
and again.. spraying water to alu can shorten its lifespan, and those things are 300 ringgit above to replace

I'd suggest you add an electric fan to pull more air through the rad and condenser

my Exora turbo, can see significant difference with the AC fan running vs without
I use OBD to take temp
with AC, it's 85C, without AC, 92C...
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thanks. fan & vent will be my next step to work on
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post Aug 16 2023, 10:49 AM

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Also, depending on car make model, having proper ducting/panels to guide the air thru may help
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post Aug 16 2023, 11:18 AM

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Route the evaporator water to your tank? Or let it drips to your condensor smile.gif.
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post Aug 16 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(hjack @ Aug 16 2023, 11:18 AM)
Route the evaporator water to your tank? Or let it drips to your condensor smile.gif.
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free flow like that. but their outlet position is so low need to find suitable material to contain waters
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post Aug 16 2023, 07:05 PM

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I don’t know what you’re on buddy but from the way u describe its so redneck.

Closest real thing to what you’ve described is water meth injection. I’ve had it done at my 2018 rs3 stage2 car before.

And yes - it’s definitely noticeable esp when you’re on high load (ONLY place you can consistently be on high load is sunday morning karak/genting or cross-state major highways during weekday working hours). But if just for basic travel, or lameass MEX highway or other KL highways - tarak diff 1 lah, waste the watermeth topup jer.

If not mistaken its from snow peformance, google should be got result lah
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post Aug 16 2023, 07:35 PM

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if you seriously want to take heat away so quickly.... ur best 2 options is a high speed fan (with proper cowling if needed), and to assist, outlets on the bonnet.

bonnet dampers, i think he means washers/spacers, this actually helps, just that the rear seal will nolonger 'seal'

sprays errr..... first it works well if it mists (is atomizes the right term?) properly, and u still need runnning air to take the hot droplets away. evos, they basically use windscreen washer sprays to power the system.

water meth is a totally different thing, whole different implementation

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post Aug 18 2023, 12:10 AM

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ts, you want to cool down the heat exchanger(radiator/condensor) but to reap what benefit from it?
your ac is only to get cooler to set temp faster only unless idle/static your fans are not cooling the condensor good enough until your ac is slightly warm.

coolant benefits from this? you got radiator fan for that.

spraying water is just a bandaid for something not cooling enough.
better route would be, fan (add or replace with better fan) + fan shroud + radiator shroud.
increase active cooling efficiency.

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post Aug 18 2023, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Aug 16 2023, 07:05 PM)
I don’t know what you’re on buddy but from the way u describe its so redneck.

Closest real thing to what you’ve described is water meth injection. I’ve had it done at my 2018 rs3 stage2 car before.

And yes - it’s definitely noticeable esp when you’re on high load (ONLY place you can consistently be on high load is sunday morning karak/genting or cross-state major highways during weekday working hours). But if just for basic travel, or lameass MEX highway or other KL highways - tarak diff 1 lah, waste the watermeth topup jer.

If not mistaken its from snow peformance, google should be got result lah
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how difficult was the water meth injection kit install and tuning ?

Back to the topic.
I was thinking similar to TS, but just spray water on the intercooler to prevent heat soak on long distance highway drive or traffic jam.

 

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