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TSRigerZ
post Aug 11 2023, 11:41 PM, updated 3y ago

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Just out of curiosity, I noticed several different brands of evaporated milk (unsweetened version) doesnt mention calcium or magnesium in their nutrients list. Why is that?


For reference: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/evapor...ition#nutrition


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B0ss_ku
post Aug 12 2023, 12:07 AM

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Cuz they don't have it?

Evaporated milk aren't even real milk
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post Aug 12 2023, 12:12 AM

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because it's susu Sajat biggrin.gif


on a serious note, food these days are so heavily processed with high heat and chemicals to the point that all the natural nutrients in the products are either altered or gone, and then artificially added back after the processing.
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post Aug 12 2023, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(cakoilembutgebu @ Aug 12 2023, 12:12 AM)
because it's susu Sajat  biggrin.gif
on a serious note, food these days are so heavily processed with high heat and chemicals to the point that all the natural nutrients in the products are either altered or gone, and then artificially added back after the processing.
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I cant find any online source that says calcium and magnesium are destroyed/removed when making evaporated milk
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post Aug 12 2023, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Aug 12 2023, 12:07 AM)
Evaporated milk aren't even real milk
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Enlighten me please
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post Aug 12 2023, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 12 2023, 12:36 AM)
Enlighten me please
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See palm oil, stabiliser, emulsifier, it's not milk.
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post Aug 12 2023, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(B0ss_ku @ Aug 12 2023, 12:07 AM)
Cuz they don't have it?

Evaporated milk aren't even real milk
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First ingredient for Ideal evaporated milk... not "filled milk" ya:

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https://www.luluhypermarket.com/en-my/ideal...k-390g/p/380904

Actually even the Marigold evaporated milk I have now says milk solids as the first ingredients and 2nd ingredient is milk fats

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post Aug 12 2023, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 12 2023, 12:44 AM)
See palm oil, stabiliser, emulsifier, it's not milk.
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UHT milk also got emulsifier and stabilier, so means is not real milk also lor?
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post Aug 12 2023, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 12 2023, 12:44 AM)
See palm oil, stabiliser, emulsifier, it's not milk.
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Evaporated milk usually is not palm oil based like creamer

But both are highly processed product nonetheless
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post Aug 12 2023, 09:20 AM

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Most evaporated 'milk' in the market today cannot be legally defined as milk, hence you'll see evaporated creamer, evaporated sweetened creamer, etc. As far as I am aware, only ideal is milk, and for sweetened milk last time is f&n, but I can't find it anymore.. these are usually the most expensive product on the shelf.
For those kopitiam, you are actually consuming palm oil.. gg health.
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post Aug 12 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 12 2023, 07:43 AM)
UHT milk also got emulsifier and stabilier, so means is not real milk also lor?
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You go see UHT and condense milk. See who got lessee ingredients. Lesser the ingredients, better. UHT is still milk..Try to avoid processed foods as much as possible.
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post Aug 12 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 12 2023, 12:44 AM)
See palm oil, stabiliser, emulsifier, it's not milk.
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Today I learned...milk solid is not milk....
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Aug 12 2023, 10:53 AM)
Today I learned...milk solid is not milk....
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It's milk powder but only 22%? Come on. So what's the other 78%?
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post Aug 12 2023, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 12 2023, 11:14 AM)
It's milk powder but only 22%? Come on. So what's the other 78%?
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Do you know what is the milk content before proceeding? And how is yoour reply related to this topic?
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Aug 12 2023, 11:31 AM)
Do you know what is the milk content before proceeding? And how is yoour reply related to this topic?
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All I know evaporated milk is highly process food. One that I avoid at all cost. Just look at the ingredients.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 12 2023, 11:33 AM)
All I know evaporated milk is highly process food. One that I avoid at all cost. Just look at the ingredients.
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I don't remember TS asked if evaporated milk is bad for health, hmmm....
And you come in and spread the false information that it is not milk lol?
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post Aug 12 2023, 11:53 AM

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There used to be different types too like evaporated creamer and evaporated milk.
I forgot which one has more fillers like palm oil and all. Usually the cheaper ones?
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post Aug 13 2023, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 11 2023, 11:41 PM)
Just out of curiosity, I noticed several different brands of evaporated milk (unsweetened version) doesnt mention calcium or magnesium in their nutrients list. Why is that?
For reference: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/evapor...ition#nutrition
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If you want healthier option in Evaporated milk get the EM without minyak kepala sawit...
I did check few brand and managed to get 1 brand in 99 but always sold out... You can notice the fully EM are different with those EM with added palm oil..
You can try IDEAL which can found in 99. Now days without reading the label.. you really no idea what you actually eat......

https://www.google.com/search?q=ideal+evapo...qxz_kvM&vssid=l
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post Aug 13 2023, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 12 2023, 12:36 AM)
Enlighten me please
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If you see the word "creamer", regardless how it is ultimate labelled, it's already mixed with "palm-based milk" (did i term it correctly). I cannot imagine myself drinking palm oil. I personally avoid them for my household. I used to scan the label, but now I already have a few label that I know is real milk.

"Evaporated/condensed" milk, if i understand correctly, are milk that have their water content taken out. not sure if it's totally dried out or very thick liquidity. long time ago, this helped to can(ned) it smaller, ship the milk farther, lengthen the time before it spoils, and less weight incurred during transport. Then you "filled" it with water again to somewhat regain it's original liquidity.

I believe "reconstituted" is when additional vitamin/minerals are added as well for a well-rounded nutricious milk (think for kids in the old days lah, not current rocket decade.)

That's why those condensed milk or whatever always carry warning: not for 6mth old and below, in case got any parents think it's substitute for proper formula milk. "ayah dahulu, nenek bancuh macam ni aje sejak dari buaian."

/typing ikut suka memori
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QUOTE(dark_axl21 @ Aug 12 2023, 11:53 AM)
There used to be different types too like evaporated creamer and evaporated milk.
I forgot which one has more fillers like palm oil and all. Usually the cheaper ones?
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the word "creamer" in malaysian market means it have "palm milk" or something along palm-based.

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